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No new wars, 8 peace deals, closed the border, $10-20 Trillion in new investments, some manufacturing coming home, including pharmaceutical and chip production, car and steel plants expanding, tariff revenue exploded, inflation down, Real Wages up.

But Trump tore down the East Wing and renamed the Kennedy Center!
DiabloWags
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movielover said:

No new wars, 8 peace deals, closed the border, $10-20 Trillion in new investments, some manufacturing coming home, including pharmaceutical and chip production, car and steel plants expanding, tariff revenue exploded, inflation down, Real Wages up.


These are largely False Narratives.

For example:

1.) There are no 8 peace deals.

2.). Inflation is at the same rate as it was when Trump took office.

3.) The Unemployment Rate has risen from 4.1% to 4.6% with Trump in office.

"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
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tequila4kapp said:


Re HC I am aware of stuff because I live in a blue state with leaders who regularly use that "kick off phrase" so I have looked into it, and it's false / disingenuous. Quick version…20 hour work/volunteer/education requirement for healthy working age people "kicks people off Medicare" … the partial enforcement of an existing unenforced reimbursement rule (state TO fed) "cuts" state funding and "kicks people off"…and rule changes which work against states providing free HC to illegals "kicks people off" (yes, this does happen…in OR we spend 1.4 Billion on free HC for 'migrants without regard to legal status' via the Oregon Health plan (ACA), twice the amount we spend on state police).



Medicare is for Americans age 65 and older.
It can also include people with disabilities who are under 65.

Given the age requirement, these Americans are usually retired and not working.
Medicare costs $185 per month and is increasing 9.7% starting January 1st.

There was NEVER any proposal requiring a "20 hour work/volunteer/education requirement for healthy working age people" as you claim for Medicare eligibility.

Your claim is false.




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tequila4kapp
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My mistake. Medicaid.
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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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No new wars, 8 peace deals, closed the border, $10-20 Trillion in new investments, some manufacturing coming home, including pharmaceutical and chip production, car and steel plants expanding, tariff revenue exploded, inflation down, Real Wages up.

But Trump tore down the East Wing and renamed the Kennedy Center!
those two things are actually true. The rest notsomuch.
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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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No new wars, 8 peace deals, closed the border, $10-20 Trillion in new investments, some manufacturing coming home, including pharmaceutical and chip production, car and steel plants expanding, tariff revenue exploded, inflation down, Real Wages up.

But Trump tore down the East Wing and renamed the Kennedy Center!

I might have read a poll recently where something like 73% of Americans identified "world class ballroom" as one of the things this country has needed most. Keep up the good work, President Trump!
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DiabloWags said:

movielover said:

No new wars, 8 peace deals, closed the border, $10-20 Trillion in new investments, some manufacturing coming home, including pharmaceutical and chip production, car and steel plants expanding, tariff revenue exploded, inflation down, Real Wages up.


These are largely False Narratives.

For example:

1.) There are no 8 peace deals.

2.). Inflation is at the same rate as it was when Trump took office.

3.) The Unemployment Rate has risen from 4.1% to 4.6% with Trump in office.



My wages are going up 1% next year, but inflation is at least triple that amount. I suspect that wage increases are dwarfed by inflation for most non billionaires.
PAC-10-BEAR
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Big C said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

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No new wars, 8 peace deals, closed the border, $10-20 Trillion in new investments, some manufacturing coming home, including pharmaceutical and chip production, car and steel plants expanding, tariff revenue exploded, inflation down, Real Wages up.

But Trump tore down the East Wing and renamed the Kennedy Center!

I might have read a poll recently where something like 73% of Americans identified "world class ballroom" as one of the things this country has needed most. Keep up the good work, President Trump!

The ballroom is entirely paid for by private funds. I'm the sure poll didn't mention that.
Eastern Oregon Bear
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PAC-10-BEAR said:

Big C said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

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No new wars, 8 peace deals, closed the border, $10-20 Trillion in new investments, some manufacturing coming home, including pharmaceutical and chip production, car and steel plants expanding, tariff revenue exploded, inflation down, Real Wages up.

But Trump tore down the East Wing and renamed the Kennedy Center!

I might have read a poll recently where something like 73% of Americans identified "world class ballroom" as one of the things this country has needed most. Keep up the good work, President Trump!

The ballroom is entirely paid for by private funds. I'm the sure poll didn't mention that.

I can sell you the Golden Gate Bridge. Real cheap! I'm motivated to sell NOW!
PAC-10-BEAR
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I believe the expression is, "cope harder".
tequila4kapp
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

My wages are going up 1% next year, but inflation is at least triple that amount. I suspect that wage increases are dwarfed by inflation for most non billionaires.

Wages have outpaced inflation since 2023. The gap is narrowing


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Here is the list of ballroom donors, which was provided by the White House. America's finest with only philanthropic interests in their hearts

Altria Group

Amazon

Apple

Booz Allen Hamilton

Caterpillar

Coinbase

Comcast

Jos and Emilia Fanjul

Hard Rock International

Google

HP

Lockheed Martin

Meta

Micron Technology

Microsoft

NextEra Energy

Palantir Technologies

Ripple

Reynolds American

T-Mobile

Tether America

Union Pacific Railroad
Big C
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PAC-10-BEAR said:

Big C said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

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No new wars, 8 peace deals, closed the border, $10-20 Trillion in new investments, some manufacturing coming home, including pharmaceutical and chip production, car and steel plants expanding, tariff revenue exploded, inflation down, Real Wages up.

But Trump tore down the East Wing and renamed the Kennedy Center!

I might have read a poll recently where something like 73% of Americans identified "world class ballroom" as one of the things this country has needed most. Keep up the good work, President Trump!

The ballroom is entirely paid for by private funds. I'm the sure poll didn't mention that.

LOL, that's even worse better (since I was trying for irony):

- money spent on x is money not spent on y... doesn't matter the source
- gee, I wonder what the people/corporations will expect for their "private funds"
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

DiabloWags said:

movielover said:

No new wars, 8 peace deals, closed the border, $10-20 Trillion in new investments, some manufacturing coming home, including pharmaceutical and chip production, car and steel plants expanding, tariff revenue exploded, inflation down, Real Wages up.


These are largely False Narratives.

For example:

1.) There are no 8 peace deals.

2.). Inflation is at the same rate as it was when Trump took office.

3.) The Unemployment Rate has risen from 4.1% to 4.6% with Trump in office.



My wages are going up 1% next year, but inflation is at least triple that amount. I suspect that wage increases are dwarfed by inflation for most non billionaires.

Have you tried being rich? Our income is up 25% since 2020 and our assets are up even more. Trump economic policy is built around making rich people more rich so you should give that a try. During Biden's Covid recovery, people at the lower end were doing better than people at the top end, but the American people don't want that. They want to help rich people.

https://blueprintlabs.mit.edu/research/the-unexpected-compression-competition-at-work-in-the-low-wage-labor-market/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
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Polling Dec. 1-15, 2025. Data: Gallup. Chart: Axios Visuals

Source: Gallup.com Americans End Year in Gloomy Mood https://share.google/4ncArcAgaxHvUnOXt
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sycasey
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Poor Chuck.
movielover
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False. Inflation hammered the common man as Biden spent $3 Trillion a year in hot checks.
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sycasey said:

Poor Chuck.


He's owes it all to himself.
DiabloWags
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dajo9 said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

My wages are going up 1% next year, but inflation is at least triple that amount. I suspect that wage increases are dwarfed by inflation for most non billionaires.

Have you tried being rich? Our income is up 25% since 2020 and our assets are up even more. Trump economic policy is built around making rich people more rich so you should give that a try. During Biden's Covid recovery, people at the lower end were doing better than people at the top end, but the American people don't want that. They want to help rich people.




Trump has certainly helped wealthy folks such as myself (the Estate Tax comes to mind) while he has screwed his base that VOTED for him and essentially priced their healthcare out of reach.. Can't wait for his new Fed Chair to lower short-term rates and send an 8 oz bag of chips to $8.00 a bag.

Gold and Silver prices are already front-running what is about to happen next.
Can't imagine where the yield on the 10-year Treasury and mortgage rates wind up.

Buying the 2-year and shorting the 10-year against it might wind-up being the best pair-trade in history.

The average MAGA Joe in middle America is going to get CRUSHED.

Just ask the farmer's that voted for him.

Welcome to Dumberica, where people repeatedly vote against themselves!



"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
DiabloWags
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movielover said:

False. Inflation hammered the common man as Biden spent $3 Trillion a year in hot checks.


For some reason, you conveniently ignore the $1.9 Trillion stimulus package signed into law by Trump called the American Rescue Plan Act of 2021 that included rebate checks of $1200 per eligible adult and a weekly unemployment insurance bonus of $400.

Why would you ignore the $1.9 Trillion that Trump spent?


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bearister
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"Just ask the farmer's that voted for him."

….but isn't Trump just going to have us taxpayers subsidize them so Trump keeps their votes?

*In December 2025, the Trump administration announced a new $12 billion Farmer Bridge Assistance Program (FBA) intended to aid farmers affected by current economic challenges and trade disruptions. This money comes from an internal U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) fund called the Commodity Credit Corporation, which is ultimately funded by taxpayers, not directly from tariff revenue as some public statements suggested.
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DiabloWags
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bearister said:

"Just ask the farmer's that voted for him."

….but isn't Trump just going to have us taxpayers subsidize them so Trump keeps their votes?




Yes, the GOP that NEVER believed in "bail-outs" bailed out the Farmers (for their vote) in 2018 to the tune of $125,000 for each farmer. However, this $12 Billion dollar program was rife with abuse and there were payment delays.

This time around, the taxpayer is once again bailing out the Farmer care of the GOP.
To the tune of another $12 Billion

Of course, the Trump press release blames Biden for record high input prices and zero new trade deals.

Payments will be released by February 28th, 2026.

Trump Administration Announces $12 Billion Farmer Bridge Payments for American Farmers Impacted by Unfair Market Disruptions | USDA
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DiabloWags said:

bearister said:

"Just ask the farmer's that voted for him."

….but isn't Trump just going to have us taxpayers subsidize them so Trump keeps their votes?




Yes, the GOP that NEVER believed in "bail-outs" bailed out the Farmers (for their vote) in 2018 to the tune of $125,000 for each farmer. However, this $12 Billion dollar program was rife with abuse and there were payment delays.

This time around, the taxpayer is once again bailing out the Farmer care of the GOP.
To the tune of another $12 Billion

Of course, the Trump press release blames Biden for record high input prices and zero new trade deals.

Payments will be released by February 28th, 2026.

Trump Administration Announces $12 Billion Farmer Bridge Payments for American Farmers Impacted by Unfair Market Disruptions | USDA



Good to know that transfer payments can now be done by Presidential fiat
Eastern Oregon Bear
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dajo9 said:

DiabloWags said:

bearister said:

"Just ask the farmer's that voted for him."

….but isn't Trump just going to have us taxpayers subsidize them so Trump keeps their votes?




Yes, the GOP that NEVER believed in "bail-outs" bailed out the Farmers (for their vote) in 2018 to the tune of $125,000 for each farmer. However, this $12 Billion dollar program was rife with abuse and there were payment delays.

This time around, the taxpayer is once again bailing out the Farmer care of the GOP.
To the tune of another $12 Billion

Of course, the Trump press release blames Biden for record high input prices and zero new trade deals.

Payments will be released by February 28th, 2026.

Trump Administration Announces $12 Billion Farmer Bridge Payments for American Farmers Impacted by Unfair Market Disruptions | USDA



Good to know that transfer payments can now be done by Presidential fiat

It's good to be the King.
Eastern Oregon Bear
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dajo9 said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

DiabloWags said:

movielover said:

No new wars, 8 peace deals, closed the border, $10-20 Trillion in new investments, some manufacturing coming home, including pharmaceutical and chip production, car and steel plants expanding, tariff revenue exploded, inflation down, Real Wages up.


These are largely False Narratives.

For example:

1.) There are no 8 peace deals.

2.). Inflation is at the same rate as it was when Trump took office.

3.) The Unemployment Rate has risen from 4.1% to 4.6% with Trump in office.


My wages are going up 1% next year, but inflation is at least triple that amount. I suspect that wage increases are dwarfed by inflation for most non billionaires.

Have you tried being rich? Our income is up 25% since 2020 and our assets are up even more. Trump economic policy is built around making rich people more rich so you should give that a try. During Biden's Covid recovery, people at the lower end were doing better than people at the top end, but the American people don't want that. They want to help rich people.

https://blueprintlabs.mit.edu/research/the-unexpected-compression-competition-at-work-in-the-low-wage-labor-market/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

I'll have to choose my Mummy and Daddy more wisely next time. Or choose a different career.
DiabloWags
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And now our Soldiers get to pay income tax on this money, when it was a HOUSING ALLOWANCE in the first place that they didn't have to pay taxes on. And of course, the money never came from tariff revenue. Trump lied.

What an epic D-Bag.

"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
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Take from Peter Give to Pete the War Fighter! Grrrrrrr
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tequila4kapp
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Link, please.

This is potentially a big deal. Military members don't make much money. Their housing allowances (BAH) is untaxed and the only way any of them can afford to actually live outside barracks; bases in my son's branch (I assume it's true for the others) don't have enough barrack space for all members so they have to live elsewhere .
DiabloWags
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tequila4kapp said:

Link, please.

This is potentially a big deal. Military members don't make much money. Their housing allowances (BAH) is untaxed and the only way any of them can afford to actually live outside barracks; bases in my son's branch (I assume it's true for the others) don't have enough barrack space for all members so they have to live elsewhere .


This was widely covered by the mainstream media about a week ago.
Probably woudn't find it on Breitbart.

More than $2.9 Billion in reconciliation funds were allocated to beef up troop housing allowances by CONGRESS within
The One Big Beautiful Bill.

Now it's being repurposed by Trump for $1,776 checks.

MAGA!

Trump rebrands Congressionally-approved troop housing subsidy as 'warrior dividend' bonus - Defense One

Trump repurposing money earmarked for troop housing for 'warrior dividend' bonuses | CNN Politics

Pentagon Uses Military Housing Funds for $1,776 "Warrior Dividend" | Military.com

How Trump's new $1,776 'Warrior Dividend' is being paid for | AP News



[url=https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/12/18/trumps-1776-warrior-dividends-pentagon-tariffs/87833418007/][/url]
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DiabloWags said:

And now our Soldiers get to pay income tax on this money, when it was a HOUSING ALLOWANCE in the first place that they didn't have to pay taxes on. And of course, the money never came from tariff revenue. Trump lied.

What an epic D-Bag.




It's already been announced that it's tax free…

"One Big, Beautiful Bill, more than 1.45 million service members will, in the coming days, receive a one-time tax-free bonus of $1,776."
https://www.war.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/4363528/just-in-time-for-christmas-nation-gifts-service-members-1776-warrior-dividend/

"This holiday season, many active-duty and Reserve servicemembers will receive a one-time, tax-free $1,776Warrior Dividendarriving just as families are closing out the year"
https://www.aafmaa.com/resource-center/what-to-do-with-your-1776-warrior-dividend

"The federal government plans to issue a one-time, tax-free $1,776 "Warrior Dividend" to roughly 1.45 million eligible service members this month."
https://www.investopedia.com/what-is-the-warrior-dividend-trump-s-proposed-usd1-776-payout-for-military-personnel-explained-11872101


DiabloWags
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BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

And now our Soldiers get to pay income tax on this money, when it was a HOUSING ALLOWANCE in the first place that they didn't have to pay taxes on. And of course, the money never came from tariff revenue. Trump lied.

What an epic D-Bag.




It's already been announced that it's tax free. Unless that has changed since first announced


Hegseth said it's tax free.
But I don't trust a single word he says.
He's a proven liar.

Under federal law, most bonuses and special pay are treated as taxable income unless Congress specifies otherwise.
No tax exemption has been announced for these $1,776 payments.

Has Congress specified otherwise?
If so, got a link?

Trump Promises $1,776 'Warrior Dividend' for TroopsHere's What Service Members Need to Know | Military.com



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BearlySane88
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DiabloWags said:

BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

And now our Soldiers get to pay income tax on this money, when it was a HOUSING ALLOWANCE in the first place that they didn't have to pay taxes on. And of course, the money never came from tariff revenue. Trump lied.

What an epic D-Bag.




It's already been announced that it's tax free. Unless that has changed since first announced


Hegseth said it's tax free.
But I don't trust a single word he says.
He's a proven liar.

Under federal law, most bonuses and special pay are treated as taxable income unless Congress specifies otherwise.
No tax exemption has been announced for these $1,776 payments.

Have you heard otherwise?
Got a link?

Trump Promises $1,776 'Warrior Dividend' for TroopsHere's What Service Members Need to Know | Military.com






I just included 3 links so yes I've heard otherwise
DiabloWags
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BearlySane88 said:


I just included 3 links so yes I've heard otherwise


Congress needs to stipulate that it's tax free.
I don't see where that has happened in any of the links you've provided.
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DiabloWags said:

BearlySane88 said:


I just included 3 links so yes I've heard otherwise


Congress needs to stipulate that it's tax free.
I don't see where that has happened in any of the links you've provided.



Nope. Congress does not need to approve the tax-free status of the Warrior Dividend. It is structured as a one-time supplement to the Basic Allowance for Housing (BAH), which is already nontaxable under existing federal law as it covers living expenses rather than counting as taxable income.
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Big C said:

PAC-10-BEAR said:

Quote:

No new wars, 8 peace deals, closed the border, $10-20 Trillion in new investments, some manufacturing coming home, including pharmaceutical and chip production, car and steel plants expanding, tariff revenue exploded, inflation down, Real Wages up.

But Trump tore down the East Wing and renamed the Kennedy Center!

I might have read a poll recently where something like 73% of Americans identified "world class ballroom" as one of the things this country has needed most. Keep up the good work, President Trump!

Incredible coincidence!


Because I might have read a poll where 73% of people said they suddenly felt the urge to bulldoze a "world class ballroom", and that it was the strangest urge they'd ever had!




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