Debating an antivaxxer:

Yep. It literally is that.

Any of the Trumper's here buy one of his watches?

It claims to have a Swiss movement.
lol

The curious hunt for the company behind Trump's new 'Swiss-made' watches | CNN Politics

A CNN investigation into the manufacturing and distribution of the Trump-branded timepieces dead-ended at an innocuous-looking shopping center in a small city in remote northern Wyoming, not far from the border of Montana.

There, sharing a parking lot with a hodgepodge of businesses including an H&R Block, a Wendy's fast-food restaurant and a "vape and hemp smoke shop," is a nondescript office space that serves as the mailing address for TheBestWatchesOnEarth LLC, the company behind the new line of Trump watches. The building houses a daycare, but there is no sign of the watches Trump says, "puts you in a very exclusive club."

Little is known or discoverable about the company now working with the Republican nominee for president, including the person or persons behind it. The lack of public details about Trump's new business partner are a feature of where and how the limited liability corporation was created. And like other ventures Trump has launched while running for president, these watches are the result of an opaque arrangement prompting questions his campaign hasn't answered and which couldn't be resolved even by knocking on the door of the business' listed address.

CNN found dozens of other companies that claim the address as their own, too, including a separate limited liability corporation selling Trump-themed sneakers through a licensing agreement with the former president. Some are as far flung as a Washington, DC, lobbying firm that represents the government of Montenegro, while others have left little trace of their whereabouts.

Wow, quite a few likes for your chatgpt-inspired takedown attempt. But you are still impervious to understanding the difference between modeling versus observational or clinical data and why it is important.

At any rate, the best possible look for the vaccines is Pfizer's own study that got the vaccine approved, and at the six-month followup there was a HIGHER all-cause mortality rate in the treated arm than in the control arm. And this was after all the games that they played to dress up the results, all hidden for 75 years until a judge forced them to release it for a FOIA request. Have you looked into that? Naomi Wolf, champion of feminism for decades, has put out out a book about the volunteer research project that dug into those documents and what it revealed about how the sausage was made. The impact she documents on women's health in particular is devastating. I suppose Wolf is an anti-vaxx heretic now. Funny how that works.

https://www.amazon.com/Pfizer-Papers-Pfizers-Against-Humanity/dp/1648210376/ref=sr_1_1?sr=8-1

More specifically, your comments on myocarditis and pericarditis being the "tip of the iceberg" lack any grounding based on available evidence from multiple studies and peer review. Is clotting, the part of the iceberg that we do not see? No. Clotting has been studied and from multiple studies, they conclude that there is more adverse impact of clotting or thromboembolic event via covid infection, than from the vaccine.

Sorry, this is complete horse****. "[a]vailable evidence from multiple studies and peer review"? You just made that up. Even the evidence hidden in Pfizer's own documentation to the FDA contradicts this statement for goodness sake.

The irony of your post is, no one is defending the jabs now. No one wants the jabs now. Many people don't want to even admit to being duped by the jab or that at one time they supported stripping away all a person's rights including the right to employment for refusing the jab. Remember those halcyon days of peak pseudoscience authoritarianism? I do, with receipts. Every month, there are new studies exposing the harms and new individuals and organizations worldwide recommending against their use. (Funny how you don't see skeptics becoming advocates. Why is that?)

Like Kamala, the vaxxines (which aren't even vaccines) are indefensible, yet you chose this hill to die on. Knock yourself out and get another booster. Don't be a hypocrite, keep everyone up to date in keeping with the latest guidelines.

Danish news is reporting that many of the people wearing MAGA hats in Don Jr & Charlie Kirk’s Greenland videos were homeless rounded up from the area, including one man they found under a bridge, to come into the restaurant for a photo op & a free meal. https://t.co/BSXUndFSIb

— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) January 9, 2025

chazzed said:

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Danish news is reporting that many of the people wearing MAGA hats in Don Jr & Charlie Kirk’s Greenland videos were homeless rounded up from the area, including one man they found under a bridge, to come into the restaurant for a photo op & a free meal. https://t.co/BSXUndFSIb

— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) January 9, 2025

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Yeah, finding a bunch of Greenlanders wearing MAGA hats was pretty unlikely. Now that I see the rest of the story, it's like the frequent letters I get offering me and my wife a dinner at a mediocre local restaurant if we listen to sales pitches for vacation condos, hearing aids or funeral planning.

Trump Jr Greenland Visit Staged

https://thehill.com/policy/international/5076809-trump-jr-visit-greenland-staged/

Zippergate said:

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Wow, quite a few likes for your chatgpt-inspired takedown attempt. But you are still impervious to understanding the difference between modeling versus observational or clinical data and why it is important.

At any rate, the best possible look for the vaccines is Pfizer's own study that got the vaccine approved, and at the six-month followup there was a HIGHER all-cause mortality rate in the treated arm than in the control arm. And this was after all the games that they played to dress up the results, all hidden for 75 years until a judge forced them to release it for a FOIA request. Have you looked into that? Naomi Wolf, champion of feminism for decades, has put out out a book about the volunteer research project that dug into those documents and what it revealed about how the sausage was made. The impact she documents on women's health in particular is devastating. I suppose Wolf is an anti-vaxx heretic now. Funny how that works.

https://www.amazon.com/Pfizer-Papers-Pfizers-Against-Humanity/dp/1648210376/ref=sr_1_1?sr=8-1

More specifically, your comments on myocarditis and pericarditis being the "tip of the iceberg" lack any grounding based on available evidence from multiple studies and peer review. Is clotting, the part of the iceberg that we do not see? No. Clotting has been studied and from multiple studies, they conclude that there is more adverse impact of clotting or thromboembolic event via covid infection, than from the vaccine.

Sorry, this is complete horse****. "[a]vailable evidence from multiple studies and peer review"? You just made that up. Even the evidence hidden in Pfizer's own documentation to the FDA contradicts this statement for goodness sake.

The irony of your post is, no one is defending the jabs now. No one wants the jabs now. Many people don't want to even admit to being duped by the jab or that at one time they supported stripping away all a person's rights including the right to employment for refusing the jab. Remember those halcyon days of peak pseudoscience authoritarianism? I do, with receipts. Every month, there are new studies exposing the harms and new individuals and organizations worldwide recommending against their use. (Funny how you don't see skeptics becoming advocates. Why is that?)

Like Kamala, the vaxxines (which aren't even vaccines) are indefensible, yet you chose this hill to die on. Knock yourself out and get another booster. Don't be a hypocrite, keep everyone up to date in keeping with the latest guidelines.

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Chat GP? A curious attempt at a "get back" after I destroyed your study. lol Not only was it taken down from the Lancet. But it was taken down twice by Forensic International. Your research is lazy as well as your scholarship. Next time why don't you ask 88 and 34 for an appropriate twitter post.

And now you redirect saying that "no one is defending the jabs now". Here's the thing, Zipper, you're right. No one cares. Know why? Because the vaccine worked. Herd immunity was built. Not through contracting the virus but through the millions of people that took the vaccine.

Peak pseudoscience authoritarianism. I've asked this question to the free thinkers on this board how they were harmed by mandates. How they were personally harmed, how they had their liberties taken away by the mandates. Know what? Not one person has offered anything. Now, I ask you.

So, I ask you again, show me study where it shows that the vaccine caused tens of millions of people to die. Or better yet, I'll make it easy - show me the study where tens of millions of people suffered myocarditis/pericarditis as a direct result of the vaccine. You won't. Cuz you can't. All you had was a maligned study that actually discovered the opposite of what the researchers were trying to prove. But they cooked it anyway.

And now Kamala? Another redirect. I'll get another booster, thank you.

Now, I'll let you get back to hosting covid slumber parties. LMAO

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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chazzed said:

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Danish news is reporting that many of the people wearing MAGA hats in Don Jr & Charlie Kirk’s Greenland videos were homeless rounded up from the area, including one man they found under a bridge, to come into the restaurant for a photo op & a free meal. https://t.co/BSXUndFSIb

— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) January 9, 2025

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Yeah, finding a bunch of Greenlanders wearing MAGA hats was pretty unlikely. Now that I see the rest of the story, it's like the frequent letters I get offering me and my wife a dinner at a mediocre local restaurant if we listen to sales pitches for vacation condos, hearing aids or funeral planning.

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Didn't you get the memo? Objective truth is irrelevant and has zero value in Trumplandia:

"Meta made a far-reaching announcement Tuesday, with a post headlined, "More Speech and Fewer Mistakes." Facebook, Instagram and Threads will end their third-party fact-checking program and move to a Community Notes model*, where users add corrections and context."Axios










* X's Community Notes system "regularly allows blatant misinformation to be loudly amplified for hours or days before being noted," Axios' Dan Primack notes (on X!).

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* X's Community Notes system "regularly allows blatant misinformation to be loudly amplified for hours or days before being noted," Axios' Dan Primack notes (on X!).

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TV news don't make corrections while printed news make corrections sometimes years after the fact and bury it in the back pages.

X is the new media.

We are the media.

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Renaming the Gulf of Mexico and Canada being the 51st state are just mind numbingly dumb wastes of time and energy.

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Maybe this is about energy? Joe Biden issued an executive order to stop offshore oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico. Renaming it to the Gulf of America may be a way for the Trump admin to bypass this.

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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bear2034 said:

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bearister said:

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* X's Community Notes system "regularly allows blatant misinformation to be loudly amplified for hours or days before being noted," Axios' Dan Primack notes (on X!).

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TV news don't make corrections while printed news make corrections sometimes years after the fact and bury it in the back pages.

X is the new media.

We are the media.

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X accounts make corrections? I don't see a lot of that happening. Community comments by others don't count since there's no shortage of people correcting TV and newspapers too.

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Community Notes 🔥 🔥 pic.twitter.com/jaP9R98lDK

— The Rabbit Hole (@TheRabbitHole84) January 12, 2025

This is the classic MAGA strategy: throw the accusation first. Even if its bull, throw it. And then tack on DEI, wokeness, unions, LGBT. Set the narrative. Don't retract. The accusations linger in the air even if the accusations are proven to be wrong.

There's nothing in that post that Newsom made that is incorrect. Its against the law. Always has been. Also, that community notes is incorrect. Prop 36 didn't repeal prop 47, it only changed one element of sentencing for theft. It changed sentencing such as theft of items worth $950 or less by a person with two or more past convictions. It changes those to felonies instead of misdemeanors.

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philly1121 said:

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This conversation, and even the thought of us "purchasing" Greenland, "taking back" the Canal, Canada "becoming" our 51st state, is intellectual starvation advanced by the less critical thought processors on this board, 88, 34 and 003.

Those free thinkers rely on Russian propaganda, Jesse Watters and Tommy Tuberville to process political "discourse". lol Jesse wants to quench his "imperialist thirst". With Whiskey Pete, Ka$h Money and Tulsi Assad at the wheel, what could possibly go wrong?

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What the heck is your problem? I don't recall ever commenting on purchasing Greenland, taking back the canal, or Canada becoming a state. Do you need Alzheimer's meds or do you just purposely make stuff up? Go screw yourself, you apparently unpaid shill.

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003, why you so bitter? Did your Orange Leader not just win an election? Are you upset that Dems didn't purposefully s**t on the Capital walls or throw a Biden flag at a police officer two days ago? You're an awfully bitter person to be complaining so much when you just won. I'm calling out all of Trumps nonsense. I would accept an, "uh yeah, that's crap. I don't support that". But you won't even do that.

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As oski003 often points out, he doesn't support everything Trump says or does. He just never criticizes the most deserving target in American politics in recent history. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that they are fellow Republicans.