The us government has always coddled facists/racists. Hence where we are
Rashida Tlaib has been explicit about what she means by "from the river to the sea," and it's not to end the existence of Israel.BearGoggles said:From the river to the sea is "directly" antisemitic. Full stop. It is from Hamas' charter as a call to end the existence of Israel and attack/remove/kill jews. A call for genocide.sycasey said:I was looking for something more along the lines of actual directly anti-semitic quotes or something, not statements that some people interpreted as such, or some instance where they failed to mention something or didn't vote for some non-binding resolution. None of that actually causes anyone harm. Also, have you actually checked up on some of these claims?BearGoggles said:First of all, both are obsessed with alleged wrongdoing by Israel (e.g., "genocide" or "war crimes") but have literally nothing to say about genocide or human rights violations in Arab counties or Iran. A double standard like that is one definition of antisemitism.sycasey said:What is the most awful thing done by Tlaib or Omar, in your view?BearGoggles said:And AOC is happy to defend some of the worst antisemites (Talib/Omar) and only call out people like Musk under the false pretense of caring about antisemitism. She objects to a random arm motion by Elon, but none of the truly awful things done by Talib/Omar or for that matter the pro-hamas demonstrators who threaten violence and support genocide. She's a fraud.sycasey said:
The ADL is happy with whoever will keep letting Israel do whatever they want.
I can't say what is the "most awful", but Tilab has defended hamas, adopted the genocidal "from the river to the see" change, posted a map of the middle east in her office without Israel on it (hint hint), and voted against a resolution condemning rape and violence by Hamas on 10/7 (she was the only vote against). I believe she was censured by congress for her antisemitism. She opposes as two state solution.
Omar has been a consistent purveyor of antisemitic tropes and statements.
https://www.ajc.org/news/ilhan-omar-has-a-problem-with-jews
I believe both voted against providing Iron Dome DEFENSIVE weapons to Israel. Because they apparently think Israel should not have a defense to Hamas/Hezbollah missiles.
You say that Tlaib "posted a map of the middle east without Israel on it," but the only actual visual I can find of that is this:
https://www.newarab.com/news/congresswoman-rashida-tlaib-puts-palestine-map-literallySomeone has already made a slight alteration to the map that hangs in Rashida Tlaib’s new congressional office. pic.twitter.com/mwyshIog4r
— Hannah Allam (@HannahAllam) January 3, 2019
That looks to me like ADDING Palestine to the map, not removing Israel. She is the child of Palestinian immigrants, so I can see why she might have done that and it's not necessarily due to antisemitism.
She has defended Hamas and other bad actors. In her initial statement on 10/7, she refused to condemn Hamas (didn't even mention them) and made a lot of other awful comments. She was censured for it.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/house-vote-censure-rashida-tlaib-israel-hamas-palestine-remarks-rcna124005
From the river to the sea is an aspirational call for freedom, human rights, and peaceful coexistence, not death, destruction, or hate. My work and advocacy is always centered in justice and dignity for all people no matter faith or ethnicity.
— Rashida Tlaib (@RashidaTlaib) November 3, 2023
Has anything happened since 1977? Today, do you see great numbers of Jews or Israelis marching around screaming "from the river to the sea"? Not in Israel and certainly not in the US, or on college campuses.Cal88 said:BearGoggles said:From the river to the sea is "directly" antisemitic. Full stop. It is from Hamas' charter as a call to end the existence of Israel and attack/remove/kill jews. A call for genocide.sycasey said:I was looking for something more along the lines of actual directly anti-semitic quotes or something, not statements that some people interpreted as such, or some instance where they failed to mention something or didn't vote for some non-binding resolution. None of that actually causes anyone harm. Also, have you actually checked up on some of these claims?BearGoggles said:First of all, both are obsessed with alleged wrongdoing by Israel (e.g., "genocide" or "war crimes") but have literally nothing to say about genocide or human rights violations in Arab counties or Iran. A double standard like that is one definition of antisemitism.sycasey said:What is the most awful thing done by Tlaib or Omar, in your view?BearGoggles said:And AOC is happy to defend some of the worst antisemites (Talib/Omar) and only call out people like Musk under the false pretense of caring about antisemitism. She objects to a random arm motion by Elon, but none of the truly awful things done by Talib/Omar or for that matter the pro-hamas demonstrators who threaten violence and support genocide. She's a fraud.sycasey said:
The ADL is happy with whoever will keep letting Israel do whatever they want.
I can't say what is the "most awful", but Tilab has defended hamas, adopted the genocidal "from the river to the see" change, posted a map of the middle east in her office without Israel on it (hint hint), and voted against a resolution condemning rape and violence by Hamas on 10/7 (she was the only vote against). I believe she was censured by congress for her antisemitism. She opposes as two state solution.
Omar has been a consistent purveyor of antisemitic tropes and statements.
https://www.ajc.org/news/ilhan-omar-has-a-problem-with-jews
I believe both voted against providing Iron Dome DEFENSIVE weapons to Israel. Because they apparently think Israel should not have a defense to Hamas/Hezbollah missiles.
You say that Tlaib "posted a map of the middle east without Israel on it," but the only actual visual I can find of that is this:
https://www.newarab.com/news/congresswoman-rashida-tlaib-puts-palestine-map-literallySomeone has already made a slight alteration to the map that hangs in Rashida Tlaib’s new congressional office. pic.twitter.com/mwyshIog4r
— Hannah Allam (@HannahAllam) January 3, 2019
That looks to me like ADDING Palestine to the map, not removing Israel. She is the child of Palestinian immigrants, so I can see why she might have done that and it's not necessarily due to antisemitism.
She has defended Hamas and other bad actors. In her initial statement on 10/7, she refused to condemn Hamas (didn't even mention them) and made a lot of other awful comments. She was censured for it.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/house-vote-censure-rashida-tlaib-israel-hamas-palestine-remarks-rcna124005
From the river to the sea first appeared in the charter of the Likud Party of Israel, before Hamas even existed.
Israel has been conducting ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from the river to the sea since 1948. It is the only country in the world that doesn't have defined borders, constantly stealing land from Palestinians, and lately, from Lebanon and Syria as well.Netanyahu’s Likud party charter declares that "between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty", and no Palestinian state.
— Aaron Maté (@aaronjmate) November 4, 2023
“From the River to the Sea” therefore means freeing Palestine from this self-declared Israeli apartheid regime. https://t.co/WWxT7djqhv pic.twitter.com/7DqiK7MdMM
GoOskie said:
You have to be a ****ing idiot if you think he was throwing his heart out to you.
The so called Media is a disgrace. pic.twitter.com/zyZRjWBDFi
— A Man Of Memes (@RickyDoggin) January 22, 2025
You all need to stop posting still images in response to a video.HawaiiBear33 said:GoOskie said:
You have to be a ****ing idiot if you think he was throwing his heart out to you.The so called Media is a disgrace. pic.twitter.com/zyZRjWBDFi
— A Man Of Memes (@RickyDoggin) January 22, 2025
Why do you keep believing msm…so many lies
****ing idiotHawaiiBear33 said:GoOskie said:
You have to be a ****ing idiot if you think he was throwing his heart out to you.The so called Media is a disgrace. pic.twitter.com/zyZRjWBDFi
— A Man Of Memes (@RickyDoggin) January 22, 2025
Why do you keep believing msm…so many lies
AOC says lots of stupid things but damn she's got a good body!BearGoggles said:And AOC is happy to defend some of the worst antisemites (Talib/Omar) and only call out people like Musk under the false pretense of caring about antisemitism. She objects to a random arm motion by Elon, but none of the truly awful things done by Talib/Omar or for that matter the pro-hamas demonstrators who threaten violence and support genocide. She's a fraud.sycasey said:
The ADL is happy with whoever will keep letting Israel do whatever they want.BREAKING NEWS@AOC trying to Jewsplain to the ADL why they are antisemitic🤭😂😂😂😂😂😂
— Ivy ✡️📟🇮🇱 (@dramamommafree) January 21, 2025
She’s officially lost her mind pic.twitter.com/ZH1cYq99csThe ADL gave a good sound statement and AOC just went for its neck because it didn’t align with her politics.
— Nadav Pollak (@NadavPollak) January 21, 2025
The U.S. political debate is already off the rails and it’s not even day one.
If AOC wants to blame someone for encouraging antisemitism she should look at the mirror https://t.co/vhPAYH7KpQ
Why did you omit the photo of the shooter, Jared?
— Andy Ngo (@MrAndyNgo) January 24, 2025
In 2019, why did you delete the posts you made that the Antifa Dayton gunman retweeted on his social media?
You work for @ISDglobal, which claims to find solutions against extremism, hate and disinformation—but you ignore… https://t.co/H2aUnZUDpM pic.twitter.com/qP8lLrlYqE
Return of the King said:Tim Walz did the same gesture that Elon Musk did...
— Shawn Farash (@Shawn_Farash) January 23, 2025
Do you remember when the Left called Tim Walz a Nazi? Or was this just "JOY?"
pic.twitter.com/5LKXup5j9l
GoOskie said:
Yea, Walz did the EXACT same thing Musk did. /s for those in the peanut gallery
Seriously, do you people have brain defects?
You might have tampons for brain lining.Cal88 said:GoOskie said:
Yea, Walz did the EXACT same thing Musk did. /s for those in the peanut gallery
Seriously, do you people have brain defects?
Walz did it too, but with the tampons.
Never forget pic.twitter.com/tj436TbP9u
— Alex Bruesewitz 🇺🇸 (@alexbruesewitz) January 25, 2025
Hats off to the woman who couldn’t scoot fast enough away from Elon’s rant about how the West needs fascism or it’ll lose its culture.
— Rachel Bitecofer 🗽🦆 (@RachelBitecofer) January 26, 2025
pic.twitter.com/ldpM5pQOFI
going4roses said:Hats off to the woman who couldn’t scoot fast enough away from Elon’s rant about how the West needs fascism or it’ll lose its culture.
— Rachel Bitecofer 🗽🦆 (@RachelBitecofer) January 26, 2025
pic.twitter.com/ldpM5pQOFI