bearister said:

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You lawyer bashers change your tunes pretty quickly, like the little b@itches you are, when you need one to get your tit out of a ringer.

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I bash real estate agents too but I still go to them when I need to buy or sell a house

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calbear93 said:

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With the recent capitulation from Paul, Weiss and from Skadden, Arps, the sanctity of the legal profession is at risk to a clearly authoritarian behavior.

I can agree with certain aspects of the Trump administration, but I have to realize that our rule of law and our way of governing is at risk to an authoritarian and those without courage to resist.

I am retired and no longer practicing, but, when I was a practicing lawyer, I took pride in our profession and in defending the rule of law. That value rose above politics.

If we do not stand against this now because of politics, it can easily be used by those on the other side. What is to stop a future Democrat from threatening same removal of access to anyone who would work with anyone on the Republican party. And our profession will become a puppet to whichever party is in the executive branch.

As a director, I for one will ask the CLOs to explain why they would continue to use Skadden or Paul Weiss.

We have to be intelligent and sentient enough to know what is wrong and what is right and understand that neither party encompasses all that is right at all time.

The extortion by the White House against law firms representing anyone they don't like with exclusion from being present in any matter in which the government is a party or potentially even accessing federal courts is unthinkable.

This was important enough for me to venture back here after many months.

And I won't debate this.

But I implore the conservative lawyers here to recognize how destructive these extortions against law firms are to our rule of law and our profession.

And if you don't speak up now, when will you?

And if you lack courage or independence to think for yourself now on this topic as a lawyer, when will you?

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Wait, I thought the firms were sued for conspiracy to commit some sort of wrong with their clients, which is of course an ethical violation with the crime-fraud exception involved. Whatever the claims, they must have survived motions to dismiss and thus it is smart for all parties to settle. I think no money paid, rather pro bono service by the firms. I assume they will calculate hours based on their standard $1,000/hour rates….

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Huh?
How does not adopting, using, or pursuing any DEI policies have anything to do with your claim?

Let's call this for what it is . . . straight up Mob Boss Coercion.

The order against Paul Weiss had cited its association with a prosecutor who investigated the president and the firm's internal diversity policies. The order suspended security clearances for the firm's lawyers and restricted their access to government buildings and officials.

Asked by a reporter Friday how he would respond to critics who say the executive actions targeting law firms amount to coercion, Trump was unfazed.

"Well, the law firms all want to make deals," he said from the Oval Office.


Paul Weiss Pro Bono Leader Would Rather Quit His Job Than Do Work For Trump - Above the Law

Law firm Paul Weiss defends deal with Trump as lawyers sound alarm | Reuters

Law firm Paul Weiss makes deal with Trump to escape executive order

Paul Weiss' Capitulation to Trump Sparks Panic Among Legal Industry - Newsweek

I think the purest profession is teaching.
I have taken numerous depositions of real estate agents. They sell their clients out within minutes after being sworn in. Once they have banked their commission, their attitude is "Eat sh@it and die."

bearister said:

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I think the purest profession is teaching.

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Fair

BearGoggles said:

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However, my head is telling me this did not start with Trump.

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No, it started with Citizens United vs FEC in 2010.

Trump, being the Mob Boss that he is . . . has simply thrown gasoline on it in broad daylight with not a care in the world.