Anarchistbear said:

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I couldn’t help myself pic.twitter.com/FUkLpEstLH

— kev (@kevtaddei) May 22, 2025

Larry David at Knicks game. What a great country

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I like the guys standing behind, too.
Everyone froze, like WTH just happened?!
Grabbing each other for comfort, steadiness.

sycasey said:

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bear2034 said:

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I only saw the highlights and thought the Knicks had it in the bag with 3 minutes left, Reggie Miller who was calling the game was beside himself. Like Charles Barkeley said in the post game, when Nesmith hit his first two threes in the 4th, he should have been considered by the Knicks as someone who's hot and should have been body checked but he ended up with open looks. I don't even know who Nesmith is but he proceeded to do something that not even Curry or Klay did in their long playoff careers.

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Around 0:50 here was the play in my memory. They set a basic screen at the top of the arc. Towns doesn't even try to fight through the screen and the other defender just sags off of Nesmith. What are you doing? Get up in his face immediately! If he drives and makes a layup that's fine, but you can't give up open threes in that situation. You can see Coach Thibs was disgusted after that.

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Good old Draymond, never misses an opportunity to criticism his favorite nemesises.

Or would that be nemesi?

concordtom said:

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bear2034 said:

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Which fanbase is most likely to trash their own city if they win it all?

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Can we come over to your house and trash it???

Amazing how you can inject cutting race based commentary as easily as I inject Trump-death commentary into any subject imaginable

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Amazing how you can inject cutting race based commentary as easily as you inject Trump-death commentary into any subject imaginable.

Remember this is exclusively. a fascist , communist and anarchist nba thread only.

Neo liberals are not welcome

Anarchistbear said:

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Neo not welcome

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IMO people born in the late 90s are also Millennials. The media got in on naming "Gen Z" way too early.

sycasey said:

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IMO people born in the late 90s are also Millennials. The media got in on naming "Gen Z" way too early.

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Agreed. New generations sells more content.

bearister said:

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Not sure how age is calculated in this table but this methodology calculates that the 77 Trailblazers were tge youngest fest champ team ever at 24.19 but using an age calculation based on Weighted Minutes methodology.

https://lgeneslaw.github.io/profile/nba/findings.html

1. 1976-77 Portland Trail Blazers 24.199
2. 1955-56 Philadelphia Warriors 25.587
3. 1979-80 Los Angeles Lakers 25.710
4. 1954-55 Syracuse Nationals 25.867
5. 1951-52 Minneapolis Lakers 25.940
6. 1970-71 Milwaukee Bucks 26.049
7. 1974-75 Golden State Warriors 26.386
8. 2014-15 Golden State Warriors 26.393
9. 1952-53 Minneapolis Lakers 26.485
10. 1956-57 Boston Celtics 26.556


The following are the oldest teams to have won an NBA championship:

Championship Team Weighted Age (WAGE)
1. 1997-98 Chicago Bulls 32.096
2. 2010-11 Dallas Mavericks 31.607
3. 1968-69 Boston Celtics 30.914
4. 1996-97 Chicago Bulls 30.790
5. 2006-07 San Antonio Spurs 30.759
6. 1995-96 Chicago Bulls 30.526
7. 1998-99 San Antonio Spurs 30.090
8. 2012-13 Miami Heat 30.077
9. 1967-68 Boston Celtics 30.033
10. 2013-14 San Antonio Spurs 29.617

Intensely physical game with great pace. Indiana prevails.

sycasey said:

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IMO people born in the late 90s are also Millennials. The media got in on naming "Gen Z" way too early.

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1996, yes. 1999, no. This is very important!

J/K. Why do some generations get more years than others? And who is the final authority on this?

All I really know without a doubt is that "Late Boomers" are the RGG (Real Greatest Generation).

Big C said:

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sycasey said:

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IMO people born in the late 90s are also Millennials. The media got in on naming "Gen Z" way too early.

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1996, yes. 1999, no. This is very important!

J/K. Why do some generations get more years than others? And who is the final authority on this?

All I really no without a doubt is that "Late Boomers" are the RGG (Real Greatest Generation).

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Late Boomers are actually Gen X according to William Strauss and Neil Howe (though Strauss was the brains behind their operation and he is deceased).

Big C said:

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sycasey said:

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IMO people born in the late 90s are also Millennials. The media got in on naming "Gen Z" way too early.

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1996, yes. 1999, no. This is very important!

J/K. Why do some generations get more years than others? And who is the final authority on this?

All I really no without a doubt is that "Late Boomers" are the RGG (Real Greatest Generation).

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It's fuzzy, but generations tend to span about 20 years or so. The earliest Millennials were born in 1982 (called "Millennial" because they would be the first to reach adulthood in the new millennium). So for that generation to run through the late 90s is basically expected.

sycasey said:

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Big C said:

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sycasey said:

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IMO people born in the late 90s are also Millennials. The media got in on naming "Gen Z" way too early.

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1996, yes. 1999, no. This is very important!

J/K. Why do some generations get more years than others? And who is the final authority on this?

All I really no without a doubt is that "Late Boomers" are the RGG (Real Greatest Generation).

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It's fuzzy, but generations tend to span about 20 years or so. The earliest Millennials were born in 1982 (called "Millennial" because they would be the first to reach adulthood in the new millennium). So for that generation to run through the late 90s is basically expected.

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The thing I think is kinda stupid about these generational cohorts is that the cutoffs have become arbitrary.

Perhaps it made sense if everyone experienced something common like the great depression or ww2 or the shadow of ww2, but we haven't had such a demarcation since then.

Yes, technologies have changed and these have impacted children differently. I imagine the new biggest thing will be the advent of iPhones and social media. But it will only become clear years from now how that experience affected this generation.

Everything from ww2 to now is minimal.
Like, why not make the cutoff not 1982 but 87 or 92 or 97…????

sycasey said:

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Big C said:

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sycasey said:

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IMO people born in the late 90s are also Millennials. The media got in on naming "Gen Z" way too early.

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1996, yes. 1999, no. This is very important!

J/K. Why do some generations get more years than others? And who is the final authority on this?

All I really no without a doubt is that "Late Boomers" are the RGG (Real Greatest Generation).

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It's fuzzy, but generations tend to span about 20 years or so. The earliest Millennials were born in 1982 (called "Millennial" because they would be the first to reach adulthood in the new millennium). So for that generation to run through the late 90s is basically expected.

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Seems like the Boomers got almost 20 years, but the others are getting closer to 15.

Really, I find the "generations" question to be fascinating in the macro, but kind of silly when we get down into the weeds.

One of the great things about the Late Boomers (the Real Greatest Generation) is that we graciously let that older generation hang onto "Greatest Generation" because humility and respect. I probably shouldn't even be writing that, but on this forum, we can be very frank because we all treasure one another so much.

Also, screw anybody here who disagrees with me about anything.

Big C said:

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Seems like the Boomers got almost 20 years, but the others are getting closer to 15.

Really, I find the "generations" question to be fascinating in the macro, but kind of silly when we get down into the weeds.

One of the great things about the Late Boomers (the Real Greatest Generation) is that we graciously let that older generation hang onto "Greatest Generation" because humility and respect. I probably shouldn't even be writing that, but on this forum, we can be very frank because we all treasure one another so much.

Also, screw anybody here who disagrees with me about anything.

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This made me LOL. You win the internet for the day

Big C said:

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sycasey said:

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Big C said:

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sycasey said:

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IMO people born in the late 90s are also Millennials. The media got in on naming "Gen Z" way too early.

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1996, yes. 1999, no. This is very important!

J/K. Why do some generations get more years than others? And who is the final authority on this?

All I really no without a doubt is that "Late Boomers" are the RGG (Real Greatest Generation).

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It's fuzzy, but generations tend to span about 20 years or so. The earliest Millennials were born in 1982 (called "Millennial" because they would be the first to reach adulthood in the new millennium). So for that generation to run through the late 90s is basically expected.

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Seems like the Boomers got almost 20 years, but the others are getting closer to 15.

Really, I find the "generations" question to be fascinating in the macro, but kind of silly when we get down into the weeds.

One of the great things about the Late Boomers (the Real Greatest Generation) is that we graciously let that older generation hang onto "Greatest Generation" because humility and respect. I probably shouldn't even be writing that, but on this forum, we can be very frank because we all treasure one another so much.

Also, screw anybody here who disagrees with me about anything.

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I'll agree with the Greatest Generation label for those who grew up in the 30's, won WW2, then built America up in the 50's. Low expectations, sacrifice for the common good, hard work, morals.

But then what do we call those who ended slavery in the 1860's?

concordtom said:

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Big C said:

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sycasey said:

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Big C said:

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sycasey said:

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IMO people born in the late 90s are also Millennials. The media got in on naming "Gen Z" way too early.

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1996, yes. 1999, no. This is very important!

J/K. Why do some generations get more years than others? And who is the final authority on this?

All I really no without a doubt is that "Late Boomers" are the RGG (Real Greatest Generation).

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It's fuzzy, but generations tend to span about 20 years or so. The earliest Millennials were born in 1982 (called "Millennial" because they would be the first to reach adulthood in the new millennium). So for that generation to run through the late 90s is basically expected.

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Seems like the Boomers got almost 20 years, but the others are getting closer to 15.

Really, I find the "generations" question to be fascinating in the macro, but kind of silly when we get down into the weeds.

One of the great things about the Late Boomers (the Real Greatest Generation) is that we graciously let that older generation hang onto "Greatest Generation" because humility and respect. I probably shouldn't even be writing that, but on this forum, we can be very frank because we all treasure one another so much.

Also, screw anybody here who disagrees with me about anything.

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I'll agree with the Greatest Generation label for those who grew up in the 30's, won WW2, then built America up in the 50's. Low expectations, sacrifice for the common good, hard work, morals.

But then what do we call those who ended slavery in the 1860's?

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Per Strauss-Howe, the Civil War generations are . . .

Transcendental Generation (leaders like Lincoln)
Gilded Generation (soldiers like Grant)

Worth noting that the generation also includes those who chose to go to war to defend slavery.

Greatest Generation was a dumb book title not a generation

Big C said:

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sycasey said:

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Big C said:

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sycasey said:

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IMO people born in the late 90s are also Millennials. The media got in on naming "Gen Z" way too early.

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1996, yes. 1999, no. This is very important!

J/K. Why do some generations get more years than others? And who is the final authority on this?

All I really no without a doubt is that "Late Boomers" are the RGG (Real Greatest Generation).

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It's fuzzy, but generations tend to span about 20 years or so. The earliest Millennials were born in 1982 (called "Millennial" because they would be the first to reach adulthood in the new millennium). So for that generation to run through the late 90s is basically expected.

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Seems like the Boomers got almost 20 years, but the others are getting closer to 15.

Really, I find the "generations" question to be fascinating in the macro, but kind of silly when we get down into the weeds.

One of the great things about the Late Boomers (the Real Greatest Generation) is that we graciously let that older generation hang onto "Greatest Generation" because humility and respect. I probably shouldn't even be writing that, but on this forum, we can be very frank because we all treasure one another so much.

Also, screw anybody here who disagrees with me about anything.

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Yeah, to me generations are broad strokes ways of viewing history, and are always going to be fuzzy at the borders. The late-90s, early-2000s births are likely to be a kind of "bridge" cohort in between Millennials and Gen-Z. We see similar things in the early-60s births being a kind of Boomer/Gen-X blend, and late-70s, early-80s kids being an "Xennial" kind of hybrid.

tequila4kapp said:

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Big C said:

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Seems like the Boomers got almost 20 years, but the others are getting closer to 15.

Really, I find the "generations" question to be fascinating in the macro, but kind of silly when we get down into the weeds.

One of the great things about the Late Boomers (the Real Greatest Generation) is that we graciously let that older generation hang onto "Greatest Generation" because humility and respect. I probably shouldn't even be writing that, but on this forum, we can be very frank because we all treasure one another so much.

Also, screw anybody here who disagrees with me about anything.

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This made me LOL. You win the internet for the day

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Big C
The C stands for Champion.

Anarchistbear said:

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Greatest Generation was a dumb book title not a generation

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So says you.
Apparently you're not a member.
Jealousy sucks.

sycasey said:

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concordtom said:

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Big C said:

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sycasey said:

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Big C said:

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sycasey said:

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IMO people born in the late 90s are also Millennials. The media got in on naming "Gen Z" way too early.

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1996, yes. 1999, no. This is very important!

J/K. Why do some generations get more years than others? And who is the final authority on this?

All I really no without a doubt is that "Late Boomers" are the RGG (Real Greatest Generation).

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It's fuzzy, but generations tend to span about 20 years or so. The earliest Millennials were born in 1982 (called "Millennial" because they would be the first to reach adulthood in the new millennium). So for that generation to run through the late 90s is basically expected.

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Seems like the Boomers got almost 20 years, but the others are getting closer to 15.

Really, I find the "generations" question to be fascinating in the macro, but kind of silly when we get down into the weeds.

One of the great things about the Late Boomers (the Real Greatest Generation) is that we graciously let that older generation hang onto "Greatest Generation" because humility and respect. I probably shouldn't even be writing that, but on this forum, we can be very frank because we all treasure one another so much.

Also, screw anybody here who disagrees with me about anything.

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I'll agree with the Greatest Generation label for those who grew up in the 30's, won WW2, then built America up in the 50's. Low expectations, sacrifice for the common good, hard work, morals.

But then what do we call those who ended slavery in the 1860's?

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Per Strauss-Howe, the Civil War generations are . . .

Transcendental Generation (leaders like Lincoln)
Gilded Generation (soldiers like Grant)

Worth noting that the generation also includes those who chose to go to war to defend slavery.

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Hmmm. Odd.
Gilded would seem to refer to Bellevue Ave, Newport RI.

concordtom said:

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sycasey said:

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concordtom said:

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Big C said:

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sycasey said:

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Big C said:

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sycasey said:

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IMO people born in the late 90s are also Millennials. The media got in on naming "Gen Z" way too early.

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1996, yes. 1999, no. This is very important!

J/K. Why do some generations get more years than others? And who is the final authority on this?

All I really no without a doubt is that "Late Boomers" are the RGG (Real Greatest Generation).

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It's fuzzy, but generations tend to span about 20 years or so. The earliest Millennials were born in 1982 (called "Millennial" because they would be the first to reach adulthood in the new millennium). So for that generation to run through the late 90s is basically expected.

---

Seems like the Boomers got almost 20 years, but the others are getting closer to 15.

Really, I find the "generations" question to be fascinating in the macro, but kind of silly when we get down into the weeds.

One of the great things about the Late Boomers (the Real Greatest Generation) is that we graciously let that older generation hang onto "Greatest Generation" because humility and respect. I probably shouldn't even be writing that, but on this forum, we can be very frank because we all treasure one another so much.

Also, screw anybody here who disagrees with me about anything.

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I'll agree with the Greatest Generation label for those who grew up in the 30's, won WW2, then built America up in the 50's. Low expectations, sacrifice for the common good, hard work, morals.

But then what do we call those who ended slavery in the 1860's?

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Per Strauss-Howe, the Civil War generations are . . .

Transcendental Generation (leaders like Lincoln)
Gilded Generation (soldiers like Grant)

Worth noting that the generation also includes those who chose to go to war to defend slavery.

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Hmmm. Odd.
Gilded would seem to refer to Bellevue Ave, Newport RI.

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Honestly, they made up a lot of these names themselves for generations of prior centuries. It's intended to refer to those who ushered in the Gilded Age.

concordtom said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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Greatest Generation was a dumb book title not a generation

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So says you.
Apparently you're not a member.
Jealousy sucks.

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Why would I want to be dead?

concordtom said:

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sycasey said:

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Big C said:

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sycasey said:

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IMO people born in the late 90s are also Millennials. The media got in on naming "Gen Z" way too early.

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1996, yes. 1999, no. This is very important!

J/K. Why do some generations get more years than others? And who is the final authority on this?

All I really no without a doubt is that "Late Boomers" are the RGG (Real Greatest Generation).

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It's fuzzy, but generations tend to span about 20 years or so. The earliest Millennials were born in 1982 (called "Millennial" because they would be the first to reach adulthood in the new millennium). So for that generation to run through the late 90s is basically expected.

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The thing I think is kinda stupid about these generational cohorts is that the cutoffs have become arbitrary.

Perhaps it made sense if everyone experienced something common like the great depression or ww2 or the shadow of ww2, but we haven't had such a demarcation since then.

Yes, technologies have changed and these have impacted children differently. I imagine the new biggest thing will be the advent of iPhones and social media. But it will only become clear years from now how that experience affected this generation.

Everything from ww2 to now is minimal.
Like, why not make the cutoff not 1982 but 87 or 92 or 97…????

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Strauss and Howe argued that the early 1960's babies belonged in Gen X because they were not active participants in the culture of the 60's and grew up in the 70's with more of a punk anti-community Gen X ethos than a pro-community (hippie or Vietnam enlistee) ethos. But they are forever linked to the Baby Boom because - there were a lot of babies born in the early 1960's. But culturally they are Gen X.

I think timing of the Internet will define Millenials and timing of social media will define Gen Z. But they are probably something like 1980 - 2000 and 2001 - 2020, respectively. Media wants to cut down the timeframe so they can have more to write about, imo.

Anarchistbear said:

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concordtom said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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Greatest Generation was a dumb book title not a generation

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So says you.
Apparently you're not a member.
Jealousy sucks.

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Why would I want to be dead?

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So then, bei g a Millenium is better?

Fuck it, 8 minutes and 42 seconds of Larry Bird highlightspic.twitter.com/bk1djADReG

— CelticsNation JT 🙏 (@CelticsTheis) May 25, 2023

As a life long Lakers fan I hated that guy. But I defend him all the time to people who say things like he was a big slow white guy or that he couldn't play in today's game. Lunacy. He was absolutely amazing.

tequila4kapp said:

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As a life long Lakers fan I hated that guy. But I defend him all the time to people who say things like he was a big slow white guy or that he couldn't play in today's game. Lunacy. He was absolutely amazing.

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100%. I hated him so much, but because he was wearing the wrong jersey and was so good in it.

Also, it's always shocking to me when people say that player x from whatever time frame wouldn't be able to cut it in whatever other time frame. If he were playing now, he'd have developed differently, he'd have trained differently. It's all nonsense.

Haloski said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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As a life long Lakers fan I hated that guy. But I defend him all the time to people who say things like he was a big slow white guy or that he couldn't play in today's game. Lunacy. He was absolutely amazing.

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100%. I hated him so much, but because he was wearing the wrong jersey and was so good in it.

Also, it's always shocking to me when people say that player x from whatever time frame wouldn't be able to cut it in whatever other time frame. If he were playing now, he'd have developed differently, he'd have trained differently. It's all nonsense.

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The saddest thought for me is that one of my all time favorites, Kareem, would not be able to defend out to the 3 point line in today's era.
He was awesome in so many ways, but he was slow footed defensively. And that doesn't work today.

Magic gets a knock down, as do many players from yesteryear, because he was a poor shooter from distance.

But Bird gets a big lift. He'd be even better today.

Larry Bird learned basketball at a time when three-pointers weren't a thing. If they had been, you can bet he would have been working on them from an early age.

Though the same goes for guys like Magic and Kareem; if they'd lived in the modern era they would have tailored their games to that. I suspect both could have learned a decent three-point shot if they had to.

I have a vague memory from about 40 years ago hearing Chick Hearn say he was against the introduction of the 3 point line. That he thought it would ruin the game but that he was wrong and it has made the game more exciting. The funny thing is, he was right but too early. Initially, the 3 point line was an outlet for specialists. Now, it dominates the game and has made Chick Hearn retroactively correct.

The prevalence of the 3 point shot is ruining the game for me. I preferred the old days when you got to see the great ones put on a demonstration of multiple offensive basketball skills.

If I was the Philosopher King, my first proclamation would be Hear Ye! Hear Ye! From this day forth the 3 point shot is worth 2!