Elway in trouble

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https://www.si.com/nfl/police-investigating-john-elway-golf-cart-accident-that-has-his-best-friend-on-life-support?fbclid=IwY2xjawJ_J-VleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFnQ0JpRjEyME1oYjVnSFAzAR4i4hgso30IrYsQuNWLxD1WYHZbXYCKK2zCUzB1xJi9lSNz60mTVEw_QQ8KsQ_aem_la6IBqtHDQrIBH7zUMJLIw

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SBGold said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/police-investigating-john-elway-golf-cart-accident-that-has-his-best-friend-on-life-support?fbclid=IwY2xjawJ_J-VleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFnQ0JpRjEyME1oYjVnSFAzAR4i4hgso30IrYsQuNWLxD1WYHZbXYCKK2zCUzB1xJi9lSNz60mTVEw_QQ8KsQ_aem_la6IBqtHDQrIBH7zUMJLIw

Elway is probably a scummy MAGAt

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Is there somewhere in the story where it indicates that Elway did something wrong here? I understand that you are insecure about your beliefs, but you don't need to extrapolate this much to justify your hatred.
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oski003 said:

SBGold said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/police-investigating-john-elway-golf-cart-accident-that-has-his-best-friend-on-life-support?fbclid=IwY2xjawJ_J-VleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFnQ0JpRjEyME1oYjVnSFAzAR4i4hgso30IrYsQuNWLxD1WYHZbXYCKK2zCUzB1xJi9lSNz60mTVEw_QQ8KsQ_aem_la6IBqtHDQrIBH7zUMJLIw

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Is there somewhere in the story where it indicates that Elway did something wrong here? I understand that you are insecure about your beliefs, but you don't need to extrapolate this much to justify your hatred.
Well, he ain't talking to police.

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oski003 said:

SBGold said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/police-investigating-john-elway-golf-cart-accident-that-has-his-best-friend-on-life-support?fbclid=IwY2xjawJ_J-VleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFnQ0JpRjEyME1oYjVnSFAzAR4i4hgso30IrYsQuNWLxD1WYHZbXYCKK2zCUzB1xJi9lSNz60mTVEw_QQ8KsQ_aem_la6IBqtHDQrIBH7zUMJLIw

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Is there somewhere in the story where it indicates that Elway did something wrong here? I understand that you are insecure about your beliefs, but you don't need to extrapolate this much to justify your hatred.


Multiple reports that Elway was driving the golf cart as well that agent was standing on the back of it. It is negligence per se to do either of those things in the operation of a golf cart. They call that a comparative negligence situation (maybe 50/50).

John loves the guy. No suit will be filed. John will voluntarily resolve it.

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bearister said:

oski003 said:

SBGold said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/police-investigating-john-elway-golf-cart-accident-that-has-his-best-friend-on-life-support?fbclid=IwY2xjawJ_J-VleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFnQ0JpRjEyME1oYjVnSFAzAR4i4hgso30IrYsQuNWLxD1WYHZbXYCKK2zCUzB1xJi9lSNz60mTVEw_QQ8KsQ_aem_la6IBqtHDQrIBH7zUMJLIw

Elway is probably a scummy MAGAt

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Is there somewhere in the story where it indicates that Elway did something wrong here? I understand that you are insecure about your beliefs, but you don't need to extrapolate this much to justify your hatred.


Multiple reports that Elway was driving the golf cart as well that agent was standing on the back of it. It is negligence per se to do either of those things in the operation of a golf cart. They call that a comparative negligence situation (maybe 50/50).

John loves the guy. No suit will be filed. John will voluntarily resolve it.

Football Board discussion:

https://bearinsider.com/forums/2/topics/127163


That's fair. It is an unfortunate incident and very sad. It sounds like Elway used poor judgement.
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oski003 said:

bearister said:

oski003 said:

SBGold said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/police-investigating-john-elway-golf-cart-accident-that-has-his-best-friend-on-life-support?fbclid=IwY2xjawJ_J-VleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFnQ0JpRjEyME1oYjVnSFAzAR4i4hgso30IrYsQuNWLxD1WYHZbXYCKK2zCUzB1xJi9lSNz60mTVEw_QQ8KsQ_aem_la6IBqtHDQrIBH7zUMJLIw

Elway is probably a scummy MAGAt

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VOTE BLUE

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Is there somewhere in the story where it indicates that Elway did something wrong here? I understand that you are insecure about your beliefs, but you don't need to extrapolate this much to justify your hatred.


Multiple reports that Elway was driving the golf cart as well that agent was standing on the back of it. It is negligence per se to do either of those things in the operation of a golf cart. They call that a comparative negligence situation (maybe 50/50).

John loves the guy. No suit will be filed. John will voluntarily resolve it.

Football Board discussion:

https://bearinsider.com/forums/2/topics/127163


That's fair. It is an unfortunate incident and very sad. It sounds like Elway used poor judgement.
I'm not sure this will be a voluntary resolution. Money tends to make friendships go away

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Jeff died.

Sperbeck had been sitting in the passenger seat, a source told ESPN.TMZ also reported that he had been on life support following the fall.

The Riverside County Sheriff's Office is investigating the incident, though TMZ reported that there was no indication that Elway was driving negligently when Sperbeck fellafter the two men and their spouses had left a party."

John Elway's business partner, ex-agent dies from fall injuries


https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/44936924/john-elway-business-partner-ex-agent-dies-fall-injuries
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SBGold said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/police-investigating-john-elway-golf-cart-accident-that-has-his-best-friend-on-life-support?fbclid=IwY2xjawJ_J-VleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFnQ0JpRjEyME1oYjVnSFAzAR4i4hgso30IrYsQuNWLxD1WYHZbXYCKK2zCUzB1xJi9lSNz60mTVEw_QQ8KsQ_aem_la6IBqtHDQrIBH7zUMJLIw

Elway is probably a scummy MAGAt

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Maybe Elway voted for Biden in the primaries and then gave up when the Dems replaced him with Kamala and his vote didn't count anymore?
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Chapman_is_Gone said:

SBGold said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/police-investigating-john-elway-golf-cart-accident-that-has-his-best-friend-on-life-support?fbclid=IwY2xjawJ_J-VleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFnQ0JpRjEyME1oYjVnSFAzAR4i4hgso30IrYsQuNWLxD1WYHZbXYCKK2zCUzB1xJi9lSNz60mTVEw_QQ8KsQ_aem_la6IBqtHDQrIBH7zUMJLIw

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Tiresome, repetitive pr ick.


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bearister said:

Jeff died.

Sperbeck had been sitting in the passenger seat, a source told ESPN.TMZ also reported that he had been on life support following the fall.

The Riverside County Sheriff's Office is investigating the incident, though TMZ reported that there was no indication that Elway was driving negligently when Sperbeck fellafter the two men and their spouses had left a party."

John Elway's business partner, ex-agent dies from fall injuries


https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/44936924/john-elway-business-partner-ex-agent-dies-fall-injuries
Narrative sounding different.
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I assume he is cooperating with the investigation (probably with counsel). Not cooperating with the media in matters of this nature is no sin to me.
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bearister said:

I assume he is cooperating with the investigation (probably with counsel). Not cooperating with the media in matters of this nature is no sin to me.
Not exactly what the SBG has to say.
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A 4 seater?



…..but AI overview states:

"No, there is no indication that Elway was driving a 4-seat cart. Reports indicate he was driving a golf cart. In the incident where Jeff Sperbeck, Elway's longtime agent, fell from the cart, TMZ reported that Elway was behind the wheel, and Sperbeck fell from the back of the cart. Fox News reports that Sperbeck was in the passenger seat of the golf cart, and New York Daily News notes that he fell from the back."
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A 4 seater?



…..but AI overview states:

"No, there is no indication that Elway was driving a 4-seat cart. Reports indicate he was driving a golf cart. In the incident where Jeff Sperbeck, Elway's longtime agent, fell from the cart, TMZ reported that Elway was behind the wheel, and Sperbeck fell from the back of the cart. Fox News reports that Sperbeck was in the passenger seat of the golf cart, and New York Daily News notes that he fell from the back."
TMZ reporting what the Riverside police say, then being run through AI on the number of seats in the golf cart. And let's add the New York Daily News with their quote about failing from the back, which apparently has been dialed back. Sports agent dies after fall from golf cart driven by John ElwayNew York Daily Newshttps://www.nydailynews.com 2025/04/30 john-elw.. Might we need to wait for the official police report?
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John Elway speaks out* after agent's death | Fox News


https://www.foxnews.com/sports/john-elway-breaks-silence-agents-death-after-golf-cart-crash

*….but not about the facts of the incident.

"Police reportedly did not respond to the scene Saturday night, but Riverside County Sheriff's Office was later made aware of the incident on Monday and has launched an investigation, local news channel, KESQ, reported."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nfl/article-14666319/amp/john-elway-jeff-sperbeck-death-agent-golf-cart-nfl.html

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bearister said:

A 4 seater?



…..but AI overview states:

"No, there is no indication that Elway was driving a 4-seat cart. Reports indicate he was driving a golf cart. In the incident where Jeff Sperbeck, Elway's longtime agent, fell from the cart, TMZ reported that Elway was behind the wheel, and Sperbeck fell from the back of the cart. Fox News reports that Sperbeck was in the passenger seat of the golf cart, and New York Daily News notes that he fell from the back."
Not sure this matters, but ESPN, which released Elway's first public comments about the accident, is now reporting that Sperbeck was in the passenger seat per the article you linked.
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Elway's good friend just died, so I think it would be poor timing to post a picture of Mr. Ed right now. Let's stay classy.
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wifeisafurd said:

bearister said:

A 4 seater?



…..but AI overview states:

"No, there is no indication that Elway was driving a 4-seat cart. Reports indicate he was driving a golf cart. In the incident where Jeff Sperbeck, Elway's longtime agent, fell from the cart, TMZ reported that Elway was behind the wheel, and Sperbeck fell from the back of the cart. Fox News reports that Sperbeck was in the passenger seat of the golf cart, and New York Daily News notes that he fell from the back."
Not sure this matters, but ESPN, which released Elway's first public comments about the accident, is now reporting that Sperbeck was in the passenger seat per the article you linked.


From that DM article:

"Sperbeck and Elway were traveling on the vehicle with their wives after attending an after-party at Stagecoach music festival in California at around 7pm."

So…..it is either an oversized cart or 4 people were squeezed inside a standard size cart requiring Jeff's wife to sit on his lap, which means she or both of them could pop out but not just him…..or …..this story remains developing and fluid.


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bearister said:

wifeisafurd said:

bearister said:

A 4 seater?



…..but AI overview states:

"No, there is no indication that Elway was driving a 4-seat cart. Reports indicate he was driving a golf cart. In the incident where Jeff Sperbeck, Elway's longtime agent, fell from the cart, TMZ reported that Elway was behind the wheel, and Sperbeck fell from the back of the cart. Fox News reports that Sperbeck was in the passenger seat of the golf cart, and New York Daily News notes that he fell from the back."
Not sure this matters, but ESPN, which released Elway's first public comments about the accident, is now reporting that Sperbeck was in the passenger seat per the article you linked.


From that DM article:

"Sperbeck and Elway were traveling on the vehicle with their wives after attending an after-party at Stagecoach music festival in California at around 7pm."

So…..it is either an oversized cart or 4 people were squeezed inside a standard size cart requiring Jeff's wife to sit on his lap, which means she or both of them could pop out but not just him…..or …..this story remains developing and fluid.



I'm voting for developing. The results of the police investigation likely is to be released soon - they typically are where there is public interest and reputations at stake. The exception is where there may be criminal charges, which seems unlikely given the reports from TMZ.
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Elway being responsible for his friend and business partner's death is not what I had on my bingo card. But here we are.

MAGAt Elway won't talk.

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Initial police involvement on Monday, two days after the fact, takes DUI off the table….which would have been a BIG F@UCKING PROBLEM, criminally.

Negligence still in play…but with a significant comparative negligence deduction.
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bearister said:

Initial police involvement on Monday, two days after the fact, takes DUI off the table….which would have been a BIG F@UCKING PROBLEM, criminally.



Hmmmm....
How convenient.
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Alcohol was not a factor in the crash that led to the death of NFL legend John Elway's agent, sources told a local Denver news station as it pieces together the timeline of last month's tragedy.


https://mol.im/a/14689071


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Alcohol was not a factor in the crash that led to the death of NFL legend John Elway's agent, sources told a local Denver news station as it pieces together the timeline of last month's tragedy.


https://mol.im/a/14689071



I'm sure we will hear differently eventually

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Is this prototypical White on White crime?
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movielover said:

Is this prototypical White on White crime?
It's more of a white on pavement crime.
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