Is Trump Out-of-Touch, Senile, Nuts or Something Worse?

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IT WAS LITERALLY AGAINST THE LAW TO SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT THE DEATH OF CHARLIE KIRK.

BUT PRESIDENT BONE SPURS CAN BE HAPPY ABOUT A VIETNAM VET DYING.

HYPOCRITE.


BearlySane88
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DiabloWags said:

IT WAS LITERALLY AGAINST THE LAW TO SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT THE DEATH OF CHARLIE KIRK.

BUT PRESIDENT BONE SPURS CAN BE HAPPY ABOUT A VIETNAM VET DYING.

HYPOCRITE.





This is one of your dumbest posts yet, not sure you know the meaning of literally. No it most definitely was not "literally against the law." What are you even talking about? How many people went to jail for saying something negative about Kirk?

I don't agree with Trump saying this but the dude did try to put him in jail and ruin him. I can understand the anger but he still shouldn't have said it.
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BearlySane88 said:



I don't agree with Trump saying this but the dude did try to put him in jail and ruin him. I can understand the anger but he still shouldn't have said it.


No, you are very wrong, actually the "dude" literally selected every option along the route so as not to ruin Trump or put him in jail:

1.Reaching a Conclusion on Obstruction

The most common criticism is that Mueller declined to make a "prosecutorial judgment" on whether Trump obstructed justice.
PBS

The Choice: Mueller cited a long-standing DOJ Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) opinion that a sitting president cannot be indicted. He argued that because he could not charge Trump, it would be unfair to accuse him of a crime without a trial to defend himself.

The Alternative: He could have followed the lead of past independent counsels (like Leon Jaworski in Watergate) and named the president as an "unindicted co-conspirator" or explicitly stated that Trump's conduct met the legal elements of obstruction. Hundreds of former federal prosecutors later signed an open letter stating that if Trump were anyone else, he would have been charged based on Mueller's evidence.
Reddit


2. Demanding an In-Person Interview

Mueller never forced Trump to sit for an in-person interview, which could have been used to pin down his intent and state of mind.
The New Yorker

The Choice: To avoid a lengthy court battle over a subpoena, Mueller accepted written answers.

The Alternative: He could have issued a grand jury subpoena for the President's testimony. Legal experts argue that while it would have caused a major legal delay, it was a necessary step for a "harder" investigation.
The New Yorker

3. Expanding the Scope (Finances)

Mueller largely avoided investigating Trump's personal and business finances unless they directly related to the 2016 election.
The New Yorker

The Choice: He focused strictly on the mandate of investigating Russian interference and coordination.

The Alternative: He could have followed "money trails" that were later picked up by New York state and local prosecutors, such as those involving the Trump Organization's financial records.

4. Direct Communication Style

Mueller was famously reticent and focused on the written report, which allowed others, notably then-Attorney General William Barr,to frame the narrative first.
BBC

The Choice: Mueller relied on his 448-page report and offered terse, often one-word answers during his congressional testimony.

The Alternative: A "harder" approach might have involved more direct and forceful public statements to clarify his findings, particularly after Barr released a summary that Mueller himself privately complained did not "fully capture the context, nature, and substance" of the investigation."
CBC



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smh said:




Wasn't Bearister a lawyer?
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BearlySane88 said:

> Wasn't Bearister a lawyer?

think so, but he's retired iirc
anyways, lets give fellow cybears benefit of the doubt.
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The whole thing was a hoax. Trump had no involvement with Russian interference. Waste of time and money
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smh said:

BearlySane88 said:

> Wasn't Bearister a lawyer?

think so, but think he retired
anyways, lets give all cybears a benefit of the doubt.
# presidental company excepted


I don't know if he is/was, always just assumed from his name and the way he breaks down legal arguments. Also wanted to apologize if I offended you the other day, I wasn't trying to attack you personally or your medical issues.
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BearlySane88 said:

I don't know if he is/was, always just assumed from his name and the way he breaks down legal arguments. Also wanted to apologize if I offended you the other day, I wasn't trying to attack you personally or your medical issues.

come on, no need to apologize, or whatev
turns out alzheimers dudes can't remember stuff long enough
to hold a grudge, but i forget when.
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smh said:

BearlySane88 said:

I don't know if he is/was, always just assumed from his name and the way he breaks down legal arguments. Also wanted to apologize if I offended you the other day, I wasn't trying to attack you personally or your medical issues.

dude, come on, no need to apologize (or whatev)
heard tell us alzheimers dudes can't remember stuff long enough to hold a grudge,
but i forget when.


I needed to say it even if you didn't need to hear it. I hope your journey through it is easier rather than harder.
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BearlySane88 said:

The whole thing was a hoax. Trump had no involvement with Russian interference. Waste of time and money


Now you are pivoting. The matter under discussion was framed by you when you said Mueller tried to ruin Trump and put him in jail, when it fact Mueller took a Hard Pass at every juncture where he might have accomplished that.
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bearister said:

BearlySane88 said:

The whole thing was a hoax. Trump had no involvement with Russian interference. Waste of time and money


Now you are pivoting. The matter under discussion was framed by you when you said Mueller tried to ruin Trump and put him in jail, when it fact Mueller took a Hard Pass at every juncture where he might have accomplished those that.


I'm not pivoting at all, Mueller went after Trump and the people around him in a waste of time and money venture
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BearlySane88 said:

smh said:




Wasn't Bearister a lawyer?


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bearister said:

BearlySane88 said:

The whole thing was a hoax. Trump had no involvement with Russian interference. Waste of time and money


Now you are pivoting. The matter under discussion was framed by you when you said Mueller tried to ruin Trump and put him in jail, when it fact Mueller took a Hard Pass at every juncture where he might have accomplished that.


Thank you for not only being correct, but an informed poster who substantiate their claims with facts.
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BearlySane88 said:

> I needed to say it even if you didn't need to hear it. I hope your journey through it is easier rather than harder.

easier than falling off a skateboard, tnx again.
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As expected.

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DiabloWags said:

IT WAS LITERALLY AGAINST THE LAW TO SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT THE DEATH OF CHARLIE KIRK.

BUT PRESIDENT BONE SPURS CAN BE HAPPY ABOUT A VIETNAM VET DYING.

HYPOCRITE.

I guess you don't know the definition of the word "literally."
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Aunburdened said:

DiabloWags said:

IT WAS LITERALLY AGAINST THE LAW TO SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT THE DEATH OF CHARLIE KIRK.

BUT PRESIDENT BONE SPURS CAN BE HAPPY ABOUT A VIETNAM VET DYING.

HYPOCRITE.

I guess you don't know the definition of the word "literally."


I do know the definition of "pedantic".




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DiabloWags said:

Aunburdened said:

DiabloWags said:

IT WAS LITERALLY AGAINST THE LAW TO SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT THE DEATH OF CHARLIE KIRK.

BUT PRESIDENT BONE SPURS CAN BE HAPPY ABOUT A VIETNAM VET DYING.

HYPOCRITE.

I guess you don't know the definition of the word "literally."


I do know the definition of "pedantic".




I know you know the definition of the word "stupid" because the definition stares you in the face every morning when you look in the mirror.

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bearister said:

BearlySane88 said:



I don't agree with Trump saying this but the dude did try to put him in jail and ruin him. I can understand the anger but he still shouldn't have said it.


No, you are very wrong, actually the "dude" literally selected every option along the route so as not to ruin Trump or put him in jail:

1.Reaching a Conclusion on Obstruction

The most common criticism is that Mueller declined to make a "prosecutorial judgment" on whether Trump obstructed justice.
PBS

The Choice: Mueller cited a long-standing DOJ Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) opinion that a sitting president cannot be indicted. He argued that because he could not charge Trump, it would be unfair to accuse him of a crime without a trial to defend himself.

The Alternative: He could have followed the lead of past independent counsels (like Leon Jaworski in Watergate) and named the president as an "unindicted co-conspirator" or explicitly stated that Trump's conduct met the legal elements of obstruction. Hundreds of former federal prosecutors later signed an open letter stating that if Trump were anyone else, he would have been charged based on Mueller's evidence.
Reddit


2. Demanding an In-Person Interview

Mueller never forced Trump to sit for an in-person interview, which could have been used to pin down his intent and state of mind.
The New Yorker

The Choice: To avoid a lengthy court battle over a subpoena, Mueller accepted written answers.

The Alternative: He could have issued a grand jury subpoena for the President's testimony. Legal experts argue that while it would have caused a major legal delay, it was a necessary step for a "harder" investigation.
The New Yorker

3. Expanding the Scope (Finances)

Mueller largely avoided investigating Trump's personal and business finances unless they directly related to the 2016 election.
The New Yorker

The Choice: He focused strictly on the mandate of investigating Russian interference and coordination.

The Alternative: He could have followed "money trails" that were later picked up by New York state and local prosecutors, such as those involving the Trump Organization's financial records.

4. Direct Communication Style

Mueller was famously reticent and focused on the written report, which allowed others, notably then-Attorney General William Barr,to frame the narrative first.
BBC

The Choice: Mueller relied on his 448-page report and offered terse, often one-word answers during his congressional testimony.

The Alternative: A "harder" approach might have involved more direct and forceful public statements to clarify his findings, particularly after Barr released a summary that Mueller himself privately complained did not "fully capture the context, nature, and substance" of the investigation."
CBC



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Why say anything when the Polls are clearly heading in your favor.









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Uh oh. Personal attack alert!
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

Uh oh. Personal attack alert!

a toga scene, below, just in case any one hasn't been there..
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DiabloWags said:

Aunburdened said:

DiabloWags said:

IT WAS LITERALLY AGAINST THE LAW TO SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT THE DEATH OF CHARLIE KIRK.

BUT PRESIDENT BONE SPURS CAN BE HAPPY ABOUT A VIETNAM VET DYING.

HYPOCRITE.

I guess you don't know the definition of the word "literally."


I do know the definition of "pedantic".







Pivoting at its finest.
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BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

Aunburdened said:

DiabloWags said:

IT WAS LITERALLY AGAINST THE LAW TO SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT THE DEATH OF CHARLIE KIRK.

BUT PRESIDENT BONE SPURS CAN BE HAPPY ABOUT A VIETNAM VET DYING.

HYPOCRITE.

I guess you don't know the definition of the word "literally."


I do know the definition of "pedantic".







Pivoting at its finest.


BINGO.
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