Israel Just Attacked Iran

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Cal88 said:

^Let's see if it stands.
Let's see if Israel and Iran know they agreed to a ceasefire.
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Tehran Always Chickens Out?
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Highly coordinated.

- US hits underground bunkers - Sheldon Adelson $200 Million gimmie?
- Iran keeps its enriched uranium
- Israel backs off as it runs out of Patriot missiles, survives to another day and can resume bombing Gaza
- Iran set back 1-3 years?
- Iran never shows its cards w cruise missiles
- President Trump gets his BBB
- MIC gets another big payday
- transvestite Zelensky, who just survived an assassination attempt, may possibly reload
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Cal88 said:

^Let's see if it stands.


Yeah, as I've said . . . with Trump and Netanyahu running the show I do not have confidence that any "peace" will hold. But here's hoping!
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If you realize this is all for a TV moment, it makes perfect sense. Trump as Teddy Roosevelt, Trump as Mahatma Gandhi.. Trump as…
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Or maybe there is no ceasefire.

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I think Trump is the Henry Kissinger of the 21st Century the way he masterfully handled the Iran/Israel War. He literally is responsible for broking a 1000 Year Pax Americana. I hope he gets his proper due.





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Anarchistbear said:

If you realize this is all for a TV moment, it makes perfect sense. Trump as Teddy Roosevelt, Trump as Mahatma Gandhi.. Trump as
King?

It's not over yet. The Neocons want Trump to finish off the mulhahs.
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bearister said:

I have a difficult time trying to discern what the best move was in this complex situation. The reason:

The governments of the United States, Israel and Iran have the same default setting: Lie…and then lie more….and then act dishonorably.

One thing I do have clarity on: With regard to the list of people I would turn to for insight about this crisis: Barron F@ucking Trump isn't on that list.




When you wouldn't trust the governments of the United States, Israel and Iran enough to even buy a used car from them, how are you supposed to learn the truth and decide who is telling it?

I do, however, find it endearing that Trump has brought his "f@ucking lie about everything" game to the world podium during a crisis that has the planet on the brink of World War III…….. all the while delivering his turbo charged bullsh@it wearing his MAGA ball cap that appropriately makes him look like a cross between the village idiot and the town drunk.


*He has that "the front porch light is on but nobody is home" look on his face and in his eyes.
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movielover said:


bombs are raining on tehran. turns out it wasn't a real ceasefire just a trump ceasefire.
whatever the demented kings says right?. i suppose there's comfort in ignorance.

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graguna said:

movielover said:


bombs are raining on tehran. turns out it wasn't a real ceasefire just a trump ceasefire.
whatever the demented kings says right?. i suppose there's comfort in ignorance.




The ceasefire was at 4 AM. Weren't these attacks made prior to 4 AM?
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bear2034 said:

Anarchistbear said:

If you realize this is all for a TV moment, it makes perfect sense. Trump as Teddy Roosevelt, Trump as Mahatma Gandhi.. Trump as
King?

It's not over yet. The Neocons want Trump to finish off the mulhahs.



They're a bit disappointed right now.
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If it holds:

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Cal88 said:

^Let's see if it stands.


what are we looking at here, a trade of Fetterman for Massie?
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"Iran nuclear capacity destroyed"

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If - big IF - there is a ceasefire,

1. I have tremendous respect for Trump having the stones to bomb the nuke facilities AND achieving a cessation of hostilities without WW3 happening as the TDS crowd swore was happening;
2) the next steps are crucial. There needs to be ongoing diplomacy to ensure no Iranian nuke program. That isn't a walk in the park.
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movielover said:

If it holds:



If, years from now, we can look back and say that that stuff was all true, I will be happy to give Trump his due. In the meantime, I remain just a tad skeptical.

I will say though, a lot of international relations experts don't know jack squat: they just happened to be right on some major issue and then leveraged that to pundit-hood.
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Win,win, win in Trump world

Israel- we got Trump to bomb Iran's nuclear program and saved Bibi's job
Iran-We struck back at the infidels and now we'll build a bomb
Trump- I brought peace to the Mideast
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Trump is a liar and is over his head.
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bearister said:

Trump is a liar and is over his head.
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Anarchistbear said:

Win,win, win in Trump world

Israel- we got Trump to bomb Iran's nuclear program and saved Bibi's job
Iran-We struck back at the infidels and now we'll build a bomb
Trump- I brought peace to the Mideast

You might be right!
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BearGoggles said:

sycasey said:

This would never have happened if Joe Biden were still president.
Correct. If Biden were still president, Iran would get a nuclear bomb as the IAEA just confirmed they are close to having.

This current war between Israel/Iran and the wars in Gaza/Lebanon are traceable to Obama/Biden and their empowerment of Iran.

And for those asserting there will be a regional war, please show your work. Who exactly will be fighting with Iran besides the Houthis? And who will Iran attack besides Israel? Iran is defenseless and largely powerless. If the regime survives, they will resort to terrorism - not actual warfare.

There is a possibility there will be a diplomatic solution after Iran strikes back against Israel (likely with complete futility). I suspect the bombing will not be fully successful in destroying Iranian nuclear sites. Iran can trade the full dismantling for a cease fire or other diplomatic solution.
IF "Iran is defenseless and largely powerless," then why did Israel just cry 'uncle' & plead for a cease-fire?


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okaydo said:



Ceasefire is going great!
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The alienated and angry young White men that the Democrat Party shunned (especially after shafting Bernie in 2016), may get a chance yet to Walk the Walk and fight for their Savior (who really "gets" them):

"Currently, all men between 18 to 25 are required to register with the Selective Service System.

The Selective Service Agency states that, should a draft be reinstated, the first to receive induction orders would be those whose turn 20 years old during the year of the lottery.

Additional drafts would follow for those turning 21 through 25, then 19 and 18 would occur if additional soldiers were required."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/06/22/draft-us-military/84309399007/




A Joe Rogan fanboy gets his Draft notice




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I'd leave the country with my family before I let Trump draft my kids
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Bibi to Trump this morning:

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Great news, everybody!

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This is great!
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Anarchistbear said:



This is great!

He really did think that if he, DONALD TRUMP, just went in and told these other countries what to do, they would all just stop the wars. That was the whole plan.
 
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