Israel Just Attacked Iran

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Cal88 said:

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How much of our taxpayer money funded Iran's nuclear program and their terrorist groups?

The money sent to Iran was part of their own confiscated/frozen funds from decades ago.

You should worry about your taxpayer money funding further forever wars for Israel, beyond the trillions already spent this century.

It is somewhat misleading, the majority of funds were Iran's own frozen funds. But there was a $1.7 billion payment under the Obama administration in 2016. This consisted of $400 million, which was Iran's own funds from a 1970s arms deal, plus $1.3 billion in interest, paid from the U.S. Treasury's Judgment Fund, a taxpayer-funded account for settling legal claims.
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So there was no interest accrued on the $400 million Iranian fund seized in 1979?

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Cal88 said:

So there was no interest accrued on the $400 million Iranian fund seized in 1979?

Good question. The $400 million paid by Iran in the 1970s for undelivered U.S. military equipment was held in a U.S. Foreign Military Sales trust fund, not a private interest-bearing account. The U.S. government did not place this money in an account that accrued interest for Iran's benefit. Instead, the $1.3 billion in interest included in the 2016 settlement was calculated as part of negotiations to resolve the decades-long dispute at the Hague.
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

bear2034 said:

How much of our taxpayer money funded Iran's nuclear program and their terrorist groups?
I thought we just unfroze Iranian bank accounts and allowed Iran to recover their own money.
You paid interest on that calculated from the 1970's.
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bear2034 said:

Cal88 said:

So there was no interest accrued on the $400 million Iranian fund seized in 1979?

Good question. The $400 million paid by Iran in the 1970s for undelivered U.S. military equipment was held in a U.S. Foreign Military Sales trust fund, not a private interest-bearing account. The U.S. government did not place this money in an account that accrued interest for Iran's benefit. Instead, the $1.3 billion in interest included in the 2016 settlement was calculated as part of negotiations to resolve the decades-long dispute at the Hague.

Interest rates in 1979 were around 12%. The notion that these funds did not, one way or another, accrue interest, is pretty laughable.
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Cal88 said:

bear2034 said:


How much of our taxpayer money funded Iran's nuclear program and their terrorist groups?

The money sent to Iran was part of their own confiscated/frozen funds from decades ago.

You should worry about your taxpayer money funding further forever wars for Israel, beyond the trillions already spent this century.

Amen!!!

They've been told about the money Obama returned as being theirs from decades ago.
They've been told about how the case was going to become theirs at a case in front of some international court of arbitration, so Obama cut a deal.

But they don't want to acknowledge any of that.


Best I can tell, their solution was simply to Bomb Them!



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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

bear2034 said:


How much of our taxpayer money funded Iran's nuclear program and their terrorist groups?
I thought we just unfroze Iranian bank accounts and allowed Iran to recover their own money.


I just noticed that.
She said it was American Taxpayer Dollars.

That's an INCREDIBLY BLATANT LIE!

Wow, I am so disheartened.
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bear2034 said:


How much of our taxpayer money funded Iran's nuclear program and their terrorist groups?

First, you ask a question based on a LIE.
But I'm responding to say, boy, her delivery style reminds me of someone else:



North Korean TV
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Cal88 said:

bear2034 said:

Cal88 said:

So there was no interest accrued on the $400 million Iranian fund seized in 1979?

Good question. The $400 million paid by Iran in the 1970s for undelivered U.S. military equipment was held in a U.S. Foreign Military Sales trust fund, not a private interest-bearing account. The U.S. government did not place this money in an account that accrued interest for Iran's benefit. Instead, the $1.3 billion in interest included in the 2016 settlement was calculated as part of negotiations to resolve the decades-long dispute at the Hague.

Interest rates in 1979 were around 12%. The notion that these funds did not, one way or another, accrue interest, is pretty laughable.

If that was true, Obama could have laughed at his critics in 2016 but chose silence.
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bear2034 said:

Cal88 said:

So there was no interest accrued on the $400 million Iranian fund seized in 1979?

Good question. The $400 million paid by Iran in the 1970s for undelivered U.S. military equipment was held in a U.S. Foreign Military Sales trust fund, not a private interest-bearing account. The U.S. government did not place this money in an account that accrued interest for Iran's benefit. Instead, the $1.3 billion in interest included in the 2016 settlement was calculated as part of negotiations to resolve the decades-long dispute at the Hague.


Oh, wait a minute.
You know!
So then why post her lies?!?!
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concordtom said:



North Korean TV
Tom, I thought you were ignoring me all the way from Concord?
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concordtom said:



Oh, wait a minute.
You know!
So then why post her lies?!?!

Supreme Leader Khamenei says thank you for your contribution.
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bear2034 said:

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North Korean TV
Tom, I thought you were ignoring me all the way from Concord?


Unfortunately, someone else responded to you and I can't hide those.

Back to ignoring you. I just had to point out how ridiculous it is that you know, but repeat the lies.

Yes, you are a propagandist!
Joseph Goebbels.
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concordtom said:

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concordtom said:



North Korean TV
Tom, I thought you were ignoring me all the way from Concord?


Unfortunately, someone else responded to you and I can't hide those.

Back to ignoring you. I just had to point out how ridiculous it is that you know, but repeat the lies.

Yes, you are a propagandist!
Joseph Goebbels.
He's a terrible human being.

MAGAts perpetuate lies.

UNITY OVER DIVISION

VOTE BLUE

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bear2034 said:

concordtom said:



Oh, wait a minute.
You know!
So then why post her lies?!?!

Supreme Leader Khamenei says thank you for your contribution.


Don't sleep on the Concord Taco Trail.

But tonight I snuck in some Brazilian BBQ at a home party. The boss / pitmaster runs a small business in The City, and does Brazilian BBQs on the weekend. Busy man. Came here legally, now a Great American.
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SBGold said:

concordtom said:

bear2034 said:

concordtom said:



North Korean TV
Tom, I thought you were ignoring me all the way from Concord?


Unfortunately, someone else responded to you and I can't hide those.

Back to ignoring you. I just had to point out how ridiculous it is that you know, but repeat the lies.

Yes, you are a propagandist!
Joseph Goebbels.
He's a terrible human being.

MAGAts perpetuate lies.

UNITY OVER DIVISION

VOTE BLUE

Go Bears Forever


Respect the facts.

SBGold
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Lol, why did he make sure the statement included that most of those killed were black? Thats Africa, duh

MAGATS, dumb AF

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SBGold said:

Lol, why did he make sure the statement included that most of those killed were black? Thats Africa, duh

MAGATS, dumb AF

VOTE BLUE

Go Bears Forever


It is because dumb AF liberals accuse him of racism. duh
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oski003 said:

SBGold said:

Lol, why did he make sure the statement included that most of those killed were black? Thats Africa, duh

MAGATS, dumb AF

VOTE BLUE

Go Bears Forever


It is because dumb AF liberals accuse him of racism. duh
Those liberals ain't dumb AF, they are speaking truth

This MAGAT is hella racist and doesn't try to hide it

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concordtom
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This is an interesting news article about Netanyahu being excused by the courts in a prosecution trial for fraud and bribery and….
Sounds like our new courts here under Trump.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/court-cancels-israel-pm-netanyahus-125546334.html

This is a global movement, strong men.

I'm telling you , it's only a matter of time before trump uses our military in really bad ways.
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concordtom said:

This is an interesting news article about Netanyahu being excused by the courts in a prosecution trial for fraud and bribery and….
Sounds like our new courts here under Trump.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/court-cancels-israel-pm-netanyahus-125546334.html

This is a global movement, strong men.

I'm telling you , it's only a matter of time before trump uses our military in really bad ways.

This is the biggest reason Bibi wants a new war in Iran, to stay in power and avoid criminal charges.
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Amuse: Fordow Stood Still: Why Iran's Uranium Stayed Put

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SBGold said:

concordtom said:

bear2034 said:

concordtom said:



North Korean TV
Tom, I thought you were ignoring me all the way from Concord?


Unfortunately, someone else responded to you and I can't hide those.

Back to ignoring you. I just had to point out how ridiculous it is that you know, but repeat the lies.

Yes, you are a propagandist!
Joseph Goebbels.
He's a terrible human being.

MAGAts perpetuate lies.

UNITY OVER DIVISION

VOTE BLUE

Go Bears Forever

Saying somebody's a terrible human being probably doesn't help us. Even when ironically followed by "UNITY OVER DIVISION".
SBGold
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Fair point, sometimes you just gotta call like you see it though. For the bigger cause of UNITY OVER DIVISION.

VOTE BLUE

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"President Trump is pressuring Israel to halt Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's corruption trial, dangling an implicit threat to suspend military assistance if the "witch hunt" continues.

What they're saying: "It is terrible what they are doing in Israel to Bibi Netanyahu," Trump wrote. "He is a War Hero, and a Prime Minister who did a fabulous job working with the United States to bring Great Success in getting rid of the dangerous Nuclear threat in Iran."

Trump claimed Netanyahu is "in the process of negotiating a Deal with Hamas, which will include getting the Hostages back," and questioned how Israel could force its leader "to sit in a Courtroom all day long, over NOTHING."

He then warned: "The United States of America spends Billions of Dollar a year, far more than on any other Nation, protecting and supporting Israel. We are not going to stand for this."

The extraordinary statement was widely interpreted as an effort to leverage U.S. military assistance to pressure Israel to cancel the trial.

Netanyahu is standing trial for charges of bribery, fraud and breach of trust in three separate cases.

He's accused of accepting more than $200,000 in gifts from wealthy businessmen, and of granting regulatory benefits worth hundreds of millions of dollars to a telecom tycoon in exchange for favorable news coverage.

The trial has stretched on for four years, in part due to Netanyahu's repeated legal delay tactics. The former head of Israel's Shin Bet has accused the prime minister of trying to use executive powers to stall the case."

Trump leverages U.S. aid to Israel in warning to drop Netanyahu trial


https://www.axios.com/2025/06/29/trump-netanyahu-trial-israel-iran-hamas

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