DNI's Gabbard identifies Obama IC crimes

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bear2034
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bearister said:

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We're past emails at this point, people are waking up to the fact that Hilary has been linked to murders.

Says the guy who quotes Alex Jones as a factual source.

We can quote the FBI Director if you want.


" Maybe this FBI will release more docs directly, from FBI HQ... so we can see who is lying- wouldn't want to deprive the fake news of more bogus Pulitzers.

OMG.
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What goes around comes around with the difference being that the players in Trump II will actually have committed felonies. Trump will literally have to pardon everyone in his Administration.

These current allegations can be filed in the "Canada will be the 51st state and we are taking over Greenland file."
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How can John Brennan be this stupid and careless?
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Tucker Carlson had guest on the past month, former State Dept or CIA guy. He admitted the CIA used torture, gave some details (sleep deprivation, ice cold water, loud obnoxious music, etc) and wS subsequently bankrupted and sent to prison for a few years.

He claimed Brennan was actually stupid, arrogant, and his experience wasn't relevant, but I think a superior kept bringing him along.
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Was it this CIA guy? This is part of a fascinating interview with CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou to unpack FBI criminal investigations into Brennan and Comey, including how Brennan rose through the CIA by pushing torture and crushing enemies.
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Deep weeds:

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movielover said:

Deep weeds:




3. Concord tom is involved with this? Figures
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The John Kiriakou appearance on the Tucker Carlson podcast involved some interesting discussion of Brennan, albeit in a different context. Kiriakou claims - and gives examples - of Brennan being an evil, mean and vindictive man. Kiriakou - who worked in the CIA during the same time period as Brennan - also believes him to be intellectually inadequate for the positions he's held. The stories do make it easier to see Brennan doing what he's accused of to Trump
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Dear bearister, your favorite, Matt Taibbi has a few words....

movielover
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Except all DC is compromised. Politicians share attorneys, daycare health clubs, synagogues. Most everybody is in on the take, many exit politics at some point to cash in as Lobbyists or advisors.
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bearister
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Go to a casino and bet your retirement fund on the proposition that either of them get convicted.


*As I have said many times before, even if they were guilty as charged, the DOJ can't field a competent attorney to prosecute anyone of more than a National Park littering violation….and even that is debatable.
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bearister said:

Go to a casino and bet your retirement fund on the proposition that either of them get convicted.


The Swamp is deep and wide.
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Wow. New poll.

New York Post: Miranda Devine: Russiagate lies are being exposed and everybody is watching, even the Dems

"The poll of 1,172 likely voters, conducted July 29-31, shows 54% believe Obama administration officials committed serious crimes in "manipulating intelligence," with 37% saying it's "very likely" and 17% saying it's "somewhat likely."

A staggering 69% agree it is critical that the perpetrators be held accountable "for the survival of our country."

Dems interested too

"Even more disturbing for Democrats is that it's not just Republicans who are concerned. The poll shows 56% of Democrats are following the investigation, 32% believe serious crimes were committed and 59% agree the perpetrators must be "held accountable." The respective Republican comparison is 75%, 83% and 86%."

bear2034
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Of course, the New York Times is following Russiagate because they won a Pulitzer Prize for reporting it.

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CIA Director explains the biggest political crime in our nation's history. More info coming.


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The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.
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The Idiot Barbie AG, Biondi has instructed an unnamed prosecutor to start presenting with what they think is evidence to a grand jury in an effort to prosecute Obama and those in his administration regarding the Russian involvement in the electionsin an effort to prevent the Big Cheeto from being elected POTUS. If this goes any place, the first evidence the defense should submit is the Senate Intel Report addressing the issue that was issued by a Senate committee chaired by little Marco and subpoena little Marco. This is another effort to change history and deflect from the evidence that somehow links the Big Cheeto to the Epstein cluster &@#$.
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The prosecutor in that case will be stuttering during opening statement more than the lawyer in My Cousin Vinny because it will be the first time he has seen a jury.

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Rumor has it the Grand Jury will likely take place in Florida rather than DC.
This is what happens when you raid Melania's underwear dresser.
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FOX NEWS "Attorney General Pam Bondi directed her staff Monday to act on the criminal referral from Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard related to the alleged conspiracy to tie President Donald Trump to Russia, and the Department of Justice is now opening a grand jury investigation into the matter, Fox News Digital has learned.

"Bondi ordered an unnamed federal prosecutor to initiate legal proceedings, and the prosecutor is expected to present department evidence to a grand jury to secure a potential indictment, according to a letter from Bondi reviewed by Fox News Digital and a source familiar with the investigation."
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Convening a grand jury all but guarantees indictments are coming. I'll predict the bare bones minimum will be perjury charges against some combo of Brennan, Clapper and Comey. There are some potential juicy ironies coming (for those on the right) whereby BCC - without their security clearances - will be the negative recipients of a tool they used against others: they won't get access to classified documents to aid their defense.
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Who will handle the case for Bondi? Do they go for Conpiracy charges?

If it's in DC, they skate. FLA is one potential option.
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movielover said:

Who will handle the case for Bondi? Do they go for Conpiracy charges?

If it's in DC, they skate. FLA is one potential option.

A conspiracy is an agreement plus some act to commit some other crime. EG conspiracy to commit murder or rob a bank. I don't know the federal laws enough to know if there is any candidate "other crime" they could conspire to commit. Maybe perjury is it?? And without really reading that SCOTUS a opinion again carefully I think Obama likely has immunity from any charges.
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Conspiracy to commit obstruction of justice is all over the place, destruction of evidence (27 DOJ smartphones wiped is one example), sedition, ???
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movielover said:



If it's in DC, they skate. FLA is one potential option.

Kiriakou tells the story that he received a letter from the FBI indicating they wouldn't prosecute. Then Obama gets elected and Brennan writes Lynch pressing for K to be prosecuted. Lynch reportedly says No because no crime was committed. Brennan supposedly responds with something like "so what, charge him with Treason anyways and make him defend against it." K went broke doing just that. Some people might like to see Brennan get that same treatment, even if it means an eventual acquittal by a friendly DC jury.
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movielover said:

Conspiracy to commit obstruction of justice is all over the place, destruction of evidence (27 DOJ smartphones wiped is one example), sedition, ???

I'm not a lawyer, just a law school grad from many moons ago. IMO people need to be careful with internet warrior's legal claims. Each of those charges has a statute that lists the specific elements of a crime; the prosecution has to prove them all. Without looking them up my hunch is they sound great in a social media echo chamber but quite possibly are impossible to prove or not applicable.
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tequila4kapp said:

….There are some potential juicy ironies coming (for those on the right) whereby BCC - without their security clearances - will be the negative recipients of a tool they used against others: they won't get access to classified documents to aid their defense.


"When a criminal defendant needs classified documents for their defense, the Classified Information Procedures Act (CIPA) provides a framework for handling the situation. CIPA aims to balance the defendant's constitutional rights with the government's need to protect national security by allowing for the use of classified information in a way that minimizes public disclosure.
Here's how CIPA works in practice:

1. Notice Requirement:
The defendant must notify the prosecution and the court if they intend to disclose or cause the disclosure of classified information.

2. Discovery and Protective Orders:
CIPA allows courts to issue protective orders, limiting the disclosure of classified information to only those with proper security clearances.

3. Substitution and Summaries:
Instead of disclosing the classified information directly, the court may allow the use of summaries or substitutions (e.g., using "Country A" instead of the actual country name) that provide the defendant with the same ability to present their defense.

4. "Silent Witness" Rule:
In some cases, the court may allow classified information to be disclosed only to the judge, jury, counsel, and witnesses without making it public.

5. Admissibility at Trial:
If classified information is deemed admissible, it can be presented to the jury through various methods, such as the "silent witness" approach, where the witness refers to specific parts of the document without revealing it to the public, or by using summaries or substitutions.

6. Balancing Rights:
The court must ensure that any restrictions on the use of classified information do not violate the defendant's constitutional rights, such as the right to a public trial, to confront witnesses, and to the assistance of counsel.

Important Considerations:

Relevance and Admissibility:
The court must determine if the classified information is relevant and admissible as evidence.

Exculpatory Information:
The prosecution must disclose any exculpatory information (information that could prove the defendant's innocence) to the defense, even if it is classified.

National Security Concerns:
The court must balance the defendant's rights with the government's responsibility to protect national security.

CIPA is not a complete bar to using classified information in a criminal trial.

It provides a framework for managing the situation while ensuring the defendant receives a fair trial."
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Key question that arises from this discussion:

Do you think the people that were ordered/hired to murder Epstein were murdered themselves as part of the cover up?
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bear2034 said:



This is the biggest snipe hunt in the history of politics and will be revealed as such. Do Republicans not understand they risk being investigated once the Big Cheeto takes his grift and they are all left behind? Their fearless leader couldn't give two #$&@ about them and will abandon them because they will be incapable of providing him with anything he can use. He won't be able to get away with not answering questions about the Epstein files and the move of Maxwell to a Texas facility is unprecedented and someone had to sign off on it. That person will be making an appearance before Congress and will be testifying. If the Big Cheeto pardons Maxwell the ensuing @#&$ storm is going to cover the Republican Party and they will have to run as the party of pedophiles. The economy is showing signs it is going to say hello to stagflation, prices are going up not down, his immigration policies are causing people to rethink their support, people are going to lose their healthcare, and rural hospitals are going to close. With all that as headwinds going into elections winning an election will be a heavy lift as the voters will see Republican's as complicit in an attempt to establish an autocracy. Good luck, people are watching and will not forget the cruelty they have witnessed.
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BearNIt said:

This is the biggest snipe hunt in the history of politics and will be revealed as such.

Peter Strozk, Mark Elias, and others have been deleting old posts on Twitter and probably in the process of lawyering up, baby.

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Half DC lawyers went on retainer today...

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Good luck, people are watching and will not forget the cruelty they have witnessed.

Well, they're being very quiet about it. Too quiet. And the way the corporate media is using Epstein to avoid covering Obama's complicity in the Russiagate hoax is very suspicious.
 
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