I think Illinois Gov. JB Pritkzer provided the most accurate analysis of this situation in the comments he made during his press conference in response to Trump's threat to send the National Guard into Chicago:

"This is not about fighting crime. This is about Donald Trump searching for any justification to deploy the military in a blue city, in a blue state, to try and intimidate his political rivals…….

If Donald Trump was actually serious about fighting crime in cities like Chicago, he, along with his congressional Republicans, would not be cutting over $800 million in public safety and crime prevention grants nationally, including cutting $158 million in funding to Illinois for violence prevention programs that deploy trained outreach workers to deescalate conflict on our streets. Cutting $71 million in law enforcement grants to Illinois, direct money for police departments through programs like Project Safe Neighborhoods, the state and local Antiterrorism Training Program, and the Rural Violent Crime Reduction Initiative, cutting $137 million in child protection measures in Illinois that protect our kids against abuse and neglect.

Trump is defunding the police…….."

Full text of Illinois Gov. JB Pritkzer's speech at news conference on reported Trump military plan for Chicago - CBS Chicago https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/illinois-governor-jb-pritkzer-speech-news-conference-full-text-trump/

Do I believe, like the Mayor of Washington D.C., that an increased law enforcement presence reduces crime? ABSOLUTELY!…..but it should not be in the form of federal troops sent in by a POTUS with an ulterior motive.**

Oakland has 500+ officers on the street. It needs 800+. Since February, 2024, Governor Newsom ordered a CHP surge in Oakland, which is ongoing. Newsom tweeted about it today:

"Since February 2024, California Highway Patrol's partnership with Oakland has lead to:
73 felony arrests
420 misdemeanor arrests
1,528 DUI arrests
4,257 stolen vehicles recovered
247 firearms seized"*

I'm sure Trump views your video as justification to start flexing his authoritarian muscles in the cities of several more blue states.



*One of the best methods for seizing illegal guns is traffic stops. The CHP regularly conduct them, OPD, rarely.

** Opinion | Trump Is Building His Own Paramilitary Force - The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/27/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-radley-balko.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/27/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-radley-balko.html?unlocked_article_code=1.hk8.nIzP.57o44ugZ4OeN&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

🚨 HOLY CRAP! Washington DC residents are flooding in support for President Trump's federalization of the District - this is absolute nightmare fuel for Dems.

"As a moderate, as a centrist, I think something needs to be done. I have three kids. I'm about to start teaching next… pic.twitter.com/W8QaXJekKn

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) August 18, 2025

DC resident on Trump cleaning up the city: “The best thing to happen to this city in decades”

pic.twitter.com/Aig7Hd15OG

— Defiant L’s (@DefiantLs) August 14, 2025

Lovely citizens that just want a safe city.

They pay their taxes and deserve it.

Maybe you missed the post that preceded yours…..unless you were deliberately sandwiching my post between two bullsh@it MAGA talking points. If you read it, your post does nothing more than provide a bump for wifeisafurd's post and does nothing to counter Gov. JB Pritkzer's contention that Trump could care less about the crime rates in blue cities rather, it is all about power. Trump, like Augustus did, is expanding his Praetorian Guard to engage in counterintelligence, crowd control, and military intelligence gathering. Trump is actually a police defunder , redirecting the funds to mitigate the $4+ trillion dent caused by tax cuts primarily for the wealthy.

I think Illinois Gov. JB Pritkzer provided the most accurate analysis of this situation in the comments he made during his press conference in response to Trump's threat to send the National Guard into Chicago:

"This is not about fighting crime. This is about Donald Trump searching for any justification to deploy the military in a blue city, in a blue state, to try and intimidate his political rivals…….

If Donald Trump was actually serious about fighting crime in cities like Chicago, he, along with his congressional Republicans, would not be cutting over $800 million in public safety and crime prevention grants nationally, including cutting $158 million in funding to Illinois for violence prevention programs that deploy trained outreach workers to deescalate conflict on our streets. Cutting $71 million in law enforcement grants to Illinois, direct money for police departments through programs like Project Safe Neighborhoods, the state and local Antiterrorism Training Program, and the Rural Violent Crime Reduction Initiative, cutting $137 million in child protection measures in Illinois that protect our kids against abuse and neglect.

Trump is defunding the police…….."

Full text of Illinois Gov. JB Pritkzer's speech at news conference on reported Trump military plan for Chicago - CBS Chicago https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/illinois-governor-jb-pritkzer-speech-news-conference-full-text-trump/

Do I believe, like the Mayor of Washington D.C., that an increased law enforcement presence reduces crime? ABSOLUTELY!…..but it should not be in the form of federal troops sent in by a POTUS with an ulterior motive.**

Oakland has 500+ officers on the street. It needs 800+. Since February, 2024, Governor Newsom ordered a CHP surge in Oakland, which is ongoing. Newsom tweeted about it today:

"Since February 2024, California Highway Patrol's partnership with Oakland has lead to:
73 felony arrests
420 misdemeanor arrests
1,528 DUI arrests
4,257 stolen vehicles recovered
247 firearms seized"*

I'm sure Trump views your video as justification to start flexing his authoritarian muscles in the cities of several more blue states.



*One of the best methods for seizing illegal guns is traffic stops. The CHP regularly conduct them, OPD, rarely.

** Opinion | Trump Is Building His Own Paramilitary Force - The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/27/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-radley-balko.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/27/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-radley-balko.html?unlocked_article_code=1.hk8.nIzP.57o44ugZ4OeN&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

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I am not sure exactly what you mean. You may be referring to the fact increased police presence does not address the root causes of crime….and that is a complex issue not being adequately addressed….but I don't accept it as an excuse for underfunded police forces. I bet you wished there was an adequate police presence for the massive sideshow the other day.

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Wait who is underfunding police departments again? You would think where crime is-more prevalent cities would spend more on crime? Earth to Barrister, local taxes support the core functions of police departments, while federal and state grants supplement these funds for targeted initiatives. Let's throw some Axios at you when it was cool to defund police;

"Another common misperception is that police budgets cannot be significantly shrunk in major cities because most of their funding is from restricted grant funds from their state and the federal governments. This is so far from the truth! Almost all police department funding is in the form of unrestricted local tax revenues ...
When city police departments do have restricted funds, it is commonly for 911 service charges (most cities have the police department operate their 911 call center) or for a public airport. Departments often receive state and federal grants for specific purposes, but in major cities these often add up to less than 1% of their total budget".

Now I know with your level of financial sophistication you know the difference between restricted and general funds and there use and you can find all this out in official statements of city bond issuances., so that when some politician goes off on blaming federal budge cuts you know they are generally full of crap, right?

But you know the real problem is your deflecting by trying to argue a conservatiue position for more adequate funding to police, which candidly I'm not hearing from any of the democratic politicians going after the Mayor, so on to what is actually relevant:


Oh this is just preciously hypocisiy of it all. The white liberals from the suburbs now wants more fund the police after the liberal politicians in major cities were getting in line to defund the police only a few years ago. The perspective of now wanting to go after what you think is the real causes of crime also is so precious. What is next pin your slippery slope, how dare Trump eliminate cash bail or limiting sentencing enhancements so we can focus heavily on the welfare of the accused and disregard the trauma experienced by victims of crime Let's just continue to do a a collective FU to people that live in major cities. Let's rethink the social reforms in the name of whatever BS justice PC crap flavor ot the day. Just look how well that liberal attitude worked in San Francisco where prosecutorial and police decriminalization of other ill thought out liberal policies led to a massive increaser in property and other crimes, businesses and visitors fleeing the city, and basically prisons of SF turning into ghost towns

And by all means shout down the mayors who actually point out what is working, saying somehow it is always Trump's fault. And you wonder why you lose elections and we end up with guys like Trump as President. Why is the democratic poitlcains have struggled to talk honestly about the costs of predatory urban crimethe ways it frightens people, weakens eduction systems, erodes trust, inhibits mobility, and undermines communities. Wh y is it some find it unseemly to discuss inner city violent crime as a social problem that African Americans and other minorities disproportionately contribute and are impacted. In recent years, particularly in Democrat-led cities, violent crime and disorder have become a national disgrace.It is part of what helped erode trust in political leadership, thereby offering Trump this opportunity and when the Washington mayor says it works, she gets crap from Democrats politicians. Not sure how to read this in other way, but your utter tone deafness is leaving us with more and more Trump.

In any event, since Bearrister just loves memes, here is your message to the people living in DC:

https://tenor.com/view/****-****-you-middle-finger-middle-finger-gif-15294280

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I think Illinois Gov. JB Pritkzer provided the most accurate analysis of this situation in the comments he made during his press conference in response to Trump's threat to send the National Guard into Chicago:

"This is not about fighting crime. This is about Donald Trump searching for any justification to deploy the military in a blue city, in a blue state, to try and intimidate his political rivals…….

If Donald Trump was actually serious about fighting crime in cities like Chicago, he, along with his congressional Republicans, would not be cutting over $800 million in public safety and crime prevention grants nationally, including cutting $158 million in funding to Illinois for violence prevention programs that deploy trained outreach workers to deescalate conflict on our streets. Cutting $71 million in law enforcement grants to Illinois, direct money for police departments through programs like Project Safe Neighborhoods, the state and local Antiterrorism Training Program, and the Rural Violent Crime Reduction Initiative, cutting $137 million in child protection measures in Illinois that protect our kids against abuse and neglect.

Trump is defunding the police…….."

Full text of Illinois Gov. JB Pritkzer's speech at news conference on reported Trump military plan for Chicago - CBS Chicago https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/illinois-governor-jb-pritkzer-speech-news-conference-full-text-trump/

Do I believe, like the Mayor of Washington D.C., that an increased law enforcement presence reduces crime? ABSOLUTELY!…..but it should not be in the form of federal troops sent in by a POTUS with an ulterior motive.**

Oakland has 500+ officers on the street. It needs 800+. Since February, 2024, Governor Newsom ordered a CHP surge in Oakland, which is ongoing. Newsom tweeted about it today:

"Since February 2024, California Highway Patrol's partnership with Oakland has lead to:
73 felony arrests
420 misdemeanor arrests
1,528 DUI arrests
4,257 stolen vehicles recovered
247 firearms seized"*

I'm sure Trump views your video as justification to start flexing his authoritarian muscles in the cities of several more blue states.



*One of the best methods for seizing illegal guns is traffic stops. The CHP regularly conduct them, OPD, rarely.

** Opinion | Trump Is Building His Own Paramilitary Force - The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/27/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-radley-balko.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/27/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-radley-balko.html?unlocked_article_code=1.hk8.nIzP.57o44ugZ4OeN&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

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You and Governor JBP have absolutely no understanding of how police departments are funded. State and local governments spending a combined total of approximately $140 billion on local police per AI. So what are you talking about a budget cut of what minuscule effect. Not to mention the BS of calling something .public protection or the buzz words actually ends up in a police budget. Okay divide $75 million by $140 Billon and then say out loud this huge percentage is crippling policing in the US. Bottom line is Pritizger is full of crap and you wonder why people are turned off, and we end-up with Trump .

Let me suggest that anyone buying what you are selling take a look at what is said about pubic funding of police in my response to Bearsiter above.


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Some of that and the optics involved that may appear to tell one story but it's just propaganda/ cannon fodder

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Maybe you could provide a meaningful post detailing what you object to and why? Otherwise, those are just meaningless words.

going4roses said:

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We all gotta pick our battles wisely. I'm busy right now I'm working on something really big.

We have different experiences thus we see things differently…

But I will put this here for you to go listen to it's a start
Go Bears .
https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/128291/replies/2528295

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You left me a long thread chain that has very limited comments from you. I'm unsure what arguments you want me or other posters to address. I understand you being busy, so take your time. I look forward to your thoughts.

Violent crime in DC is down 45% since the Trump takeover. It was always a choice.

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) August 27, 2025

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Dear Wife:

Just at first blush here upon reading your thread title: "DC Mayor: DC crime rates drop. Dems: Outraged!"

I interpret this as if you are trying to criticize Democrats, perhaps in a mocking manner.
If this is correct, then I think this makes you look bad because in many other posts over the years you have come off as if "Oh, Trump? - I didn't vote for him". Yet in other posts, like this one, you seem to take the side of Trump the MAGA Republicans, and the crazy MAGA networks that take a similar stance.

I'd like to see you come here on OT and rip on Trump, the MAGA Republicans, and the crazy MAGA networks that do his bidding in brainwashing the population.



BTW: I'm currently watching news clips on the Minneapolis church shooting - and I'm thinking about the many other shootings we've had in America and the political debate that has ensued. That debate often involves the NRA gun lobby, the ease of gun purchase in this country, the type of weaponry used.

The only reason DC Crime is being discussed at this time (as in your thread) is because Trump has decided to take over its police and establish some sort of federal (Trump) control over municipal policing in this country.

But if you really cared about crime, maybe you'd like to focus your ire on how the Trump/Republican/MAGA policies on firearms needs to change. Otherwise, I think you are simply caught up in the crazy brainwashing tactics being employed upon your grey matter.

Have a nice labor day weekend.

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Tom, your Trump derangement syndrome is impacting your reading comprehension. I was mocking Democratic politicians going after the DC Mayor. if you actually bothered to listen to what the Mayor said (it is in the OP), she say certain violent and non-violent crimes are down massively, and in particular she attributes that to extra police forces like the FBI agents provided by the federal government, and infers that would be more helpful in the future (a lot of the DC budget is controlled by the Feds). She then even thanks Trump. And then...

She says the use of the national guard and certain practices by ICE do not help, and may make things worse.

And then she gets ripped by the her own party members.

It is pretty clear the usual nimrods would not bother to read what the Mayor actually said and pile on Trump. Particularly noticeable was a stupid claim about Trump defunded the police by de minmus cuts in the last federal budget made to programs that mostly had nothing to do with actual police on the street, and in some cases more about dumping money into left leaning community groups, and take effect in 2026. (In fairness, some of the cut programs may be socially desirable, but that is not what we are talking about when you say defund the police). Nothing also is said about the shift to increase funding dedicated to funding the fund victims of crime and compensation to survivors, or increasing appropriations in certain other crime prevention programs all of which is a change in priorities on the fringes as the money is relatively spare change in comparison to law enforcement budgets.

Besides being factually wrong, in the broader context these pathetic responses trying to change the narrative away from the movement to defund the police resources where they are needed the most, and bashing people like the DC mayor for purely political revenge, is the horrible optics, and associates the left with criminals not crime victims. You can google all the news articles regarding how badly the defunding the police movement hurt this last election round, with the great irony that there was very little defunding of police that actually occurred.

The big problem with the Democrats is they appear on the wrong side of a critical issue again, and condemning one of their own for reporting success against crime doesn't help. Instead it explains in so many ways why we are stuck with Trump.

Take a close look at this Politico article - I think even the Democrats agree with me:

https://politi.co/4oSa8uj


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wifeisafurd said:

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The big problem with the Democrats is they appear on the wrong side of a critical issue again, and condemning one of their own for reporting success against crime doesn't help. Instead it explains in so many ways why we are stuck with Trump.

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Excellent post. I have repeatedly spoken to this on the board…could the Ds pull their heads out of their backsides for once? Some of this is SO obvious - like politics 101 - but they are SO blinded by TDS and SO beholden to their big donors with TDS that they just stay stuck in this world of being demonstrably wrong on core issues. And the irony is their political stupidity enables Trump. It is maybe the craziest thing ever in American politics.

tequila4kapp said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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The big problem with the Democrats is they appear on the wrong side of a critical issue again, and condemning one of their own for reporting success against crime doesn't help. Instead it explains in so many ways why we are stuck with Trump.

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Excellent post. I have repeatedly spoken to this on the board…could the Ds pull their heads out of their backsides for once? Some of this is SO obvious - like politics 101 - but they are SO blinded by TDS and SO beholden to their big donors with TDS that they just stay stuck in this world of being demonstrably wrong on core issues. And the irony is their political stupidity enables Trump. It is maybe the craziest thing ever in American politics.

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An even better summary. And the legacy media perpetuate all this by continually allowing Trump to dominate the media and by alienating everyone through airing TDS commentary.

wifeisafurd said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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The big problem with the Democrats is they appear on the wrong side of a critical issue again, and condemning one of their own for reporting success against crime doesn't help. Instead it explains in so many ways why we are stuck with Trump.

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Excellent post. I have repeatedly spoken to this on the board…could the Ds pull their heads out of their backsides for once? Some of this is SO obvious - like politics 101 - but they are SO blinded by TDS and SO beholden to their big donors with TDS that they just stay stuck in this world of being demonstrably wrong on core issues. And the irony is their political stupidity enables Trump. It is maybe the craziest thing ever in American politics.

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An even better summary. And the legacy media perpetuate all this by continually allowing Trump to dominate the media and by alienating everyone through airing TDS commentary.

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Did Gemans in the 1940's who didnt belong to the nazi party suffer from HDS? Is that what it was called back then when you didnt support killing jews? What should it be called in US now where you dont support raping underage girls?

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wifeisafurd said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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The big problem with the Democrats is they appear on the wrong side of a critical issue again, and condemning one of their own for reporting success against crime doesn't help. Instead it explains in so many ways why we are stuck with Trump.

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Excellent post. I have repeatedly spoken to this on the board…could the Ds pull their heads out of their backsides for once? Some of this is SO obvious - like politics 101 - but they are SO blinded by TDS and SO beholden to their big donors with TDS that they just stay stuck in this world of being demonstrably wrong on core issues. And the irony is their political stupidity enables Trump. It is maybe the craziest thing ever in American politics.

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An even better summary. And the legacy media perpetuate all this by continually allowing Trump to dominate the media and by alienating everyone through airing TDS commentary.

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Did Gemans in the 1940's who didnt belong to the nazi party suffer from HDS? Is that what it was called back then when you didnt support killing jews? What should it be called in US now where you dont support raping underage girls?

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Thanks for making our point.

Comparing Trump and by inference the Republican Party to Nazism is historically inaccurate and harmful. The Nazis orchestrated genocide in pursuit of racial purity, while the vast majority of Republicans and Trump, even those with hardline views, do not remotely align with such an ideology. Trump's own daughter and son in law are Jewish. If anyone is seemingly anti-semeitc these days, it is the left in the US.

And the similarities between the rise of Nazism and the rise of maga are extremely shakey. Most people can't take it or you seriously. We can and do criticize and protest Trump or other Presidents for that matter, but we cannot compare this to the orchestration of exterminating millions This exaggerated rhetoric, highly relevant especially on this site, trivializes the true horror of Nazism and makes the left seem disconnected from reality to people outside.

To the average Republican and the majority of voters in the last election, they're not a Nazi ,and neither is the guy they elected. It serves to make the left seem delusional and further affirm conservative seclusion and devotion to the right. And is certainly alienates people that are Dems or Independents as well. People like you are the problem and the reason why we have Trump as our President.

Trump's playbook, however, does align with the totalitarian playbook, as set forth in Orwell's 1984:

"Comparisons between Donald Trump's actions and George Orwell's 1984 are a feature of political commentary and analysis. Critics and commentators have highlighted several themes and behaviors from the Trump administration and campaigns that they argue echo elements of the Party's tactics in the novel, particularly concerning the manipulation of reality, truth, and historical records.

Manipulation of objective reality
"Rejecting the evidence of your eyes and ears": In a 2018 speech, Trump told an audience, "What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening". This was compared to a line from 1984 in which the Party demands citizens reject the evidence of their own senses.

"Alternative facts" and doublespeak: Following the 2017 presidential inauguration, Trump's counselor Kellyanne Conway defended false claims about crowd size by stating the administration was providing "alternative facts". Critics likened this phrase to the Party's doublespeak, a tactic that uses language to conceal or misrepresent the truth.

Persistent denial of facts: Analysts argue that Trump's "blatant disregard for the truth" and his repeated assertions of falsehoods, despite evidence to the contrary, serve to create an environment where reality is pliable and can be bent to serve his political agenda.

Control of information and the press
"Ministry of Truth" and "fake news": Critics have compared Trump's labeling of unfavorable press coverage as "fake news" to the Party's Ministry of Truth, which fabricates and censors information to align with the Party's narrative. The goal is seen as discrediting any news that questions or criticizes the administration.

Attacking the media as "the enemy of the people": Trump's frequent attacks on journalists and media outlets have been described as mirroring the Party's demonization of dissent. Like the Party, this tactic is seen by critics as an attempt to erode public trust in independent sources of information.

Control over history
Rewriting historical narratives: Some commentators have argued that efforts by the Trump administration to promote a revisionist version of American history, such as initiatives focused on "Americanism" in historical institutions, echo the Party's manipulation of the past. This includes attempting to purge narratives considered "divisive" or "partisan".

The "Memory Hole": Similar to the "memory hole" used in 1984 to destroy contradictory records, the Trump administration has been accused of attempting to remove or alter official historical accounts. Examples cited include removing information from government websites.

Loyalty and power
Absolute control and loyalty: Comparisons have been drawn between Trump's demand for "complete and unchecked loyalty" from individuals and institutions and the Party's quest for absolute power. Actions such as attacking judges or government agencies that defy him are cited as examples of this dynamic.

Endless campaigning and conflict: A key aspect of the Party's control in 1984 is the state of perpetual conflict and propaganda. Some analysts have likened Trump's relentless campaigning and focus on "victories, defeats, triumphs and humiliations" to this constant state of ideological warfare."
AI Overview

* I have read 1984 three times and keep current on Trump's actions. This AI Overview is accurate. Why spend more than 10 seconds researching and drafting an essay that some MAGA or MAGA apologist will think he countered with a couple of smug, flippant comments it took him 10 seconds to generate?

"Gee, and here I thiought I was responding to Hitler references."

Hitler was a fan of totalitarianism. Just because Trump isn't Hitler, doesn't mean he isn't a dangerous fan of totalitarianism.


"No credible sources suggest that Trump consciously uses 1984 as a guidebook."

Trump couldn't consciously do anything based on a book. I don't think totalitarians throughout history read books about each other and got tips. They shared personality traits which caused them to gravitate to the same strategies and behaviors, you know, more of an all assh@les think alike situation.

I already conceded your point that the Governor overplayed his hand on the significance of the dent Trump made on local policing by cutting grants. I still agree with the position that mobilizing National Guard units in American cities like Trump is doing is unprecedented and alarming.

Perhaps I will become convinced that he is not doing so to bully his political enemies when he sends National Guard units, uninvited, into Memphis and Nashville; Houston; Little Rock, Ark.; Salt Lake City; and Shreveport La., all have crime rates comparable to Washington's, according to F.B.I. statistics.

"Two of us were commenting how the left needs to quit focusing on Trump and instead focus on issues;"

I assume you realize that one of strategies of MAGA is to always control the narrative.* If I was a Trumpist or Trump apologist (you know, someone too chickensh@it to admit even in an anonymous forum that they voted for Trump), I would also not want people focusing on Trump and his anti Democratic stomp through the landscape.

If people are dumb enough to believe that the shortcomings of the Democrats are not exponentially dwarfed by the actions of Trump, then I guess the nation will continue to get the government it deserves.

*Have you ever watched people in the Trump Administration when they grant an interview to a network other than Fox News? A question is posed that boxes them in. They then respond to a question that was never asked and they keep talking like they are reading a phone book until the reporter just moves on to the next question for a rinse and repeat. I saw Doug Burgum do it to Kaitlan Collins during an interview a few days ago. Not even those motherf@uckers want to own their sh@it.

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concordtom said:

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Dear Wife:

Just at first blush here upon reading your thread title: "DC Mayor: DC crime rates drop. Dems: Outraged!"

I interpret this as if you are trying to criticize Democrats, perhaps in a mocking manner.
If this is correct, then I think this makes you look bad because in many other posts over the years you have come off as if "Oh, Trump? - I didn't vote for him". Yet in other posts, like this one, you seem to take the side of Trump the MAGA Republicans, and the crazy MAGA networks that take a similar stance.

I'd like to see you come here on OT and rip on Trump, the MAGA Republicans, and the crazy MAGA networks that do his bidding in brainwashing the population.



BTW: I'm currently watching news clips on the Minneapolis church shooting - and I'm thinking about the many other shootings we've had in America and the political debate that has ensued. That debate often involves the NRA gun lobby, the ease of gun purchase in this country, the type of weaponry used.

The only reason DC Crime is being discussed at this time (as in your thread) is because Trump has decided to take over its police and establish some sort of federal (Trump) control over municipal policing in this country.

But if you really cared about crime, maybe you'd like to focus your ire on how the Trump/Republican/MAGA policies on firearms needs to change. Otherwise, I think you are simply caught up in the crazy brainwashing tactics being employed upon your grey matter.

Have a nice labor day weekend.

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Tom, your Trump derangement syndrome is impacting your reading comprehension. I was mocking Democratic politicians going after the DC Mayor. if you actually bothered to listen to what the Mayor said (it is in the OP), she say certain violent and non-violent crimes are down massively, and in particular she attributes that to extra police forces like the FBI agents provided by the federal government, and infers that would be more helpful in the future (a lot of the DC budget is controlled by the Feds). She then even thanks Trump. And then...

She says the use of the national guard and certain practices by ICE do not help, and may make things worse.

And then she gets ripped by the her own party members.

It is pretty clear the usual nimrods would not bother to read what the Mayor actually said and pile on Trump. Particularly noticeable was a stupid claim about Trump defunded the police by de minmus cuts in the last federal budget made to programs that mostly had nothing to do with actual police on the street, and in some cases more about dumping money into left leaning community groups, and take effect in 2026. (In fairness, some of the cut programs may be socially desirable, but that is not what we are talking about when you say defund the police). Nothing also is said about the shift to increase funding dedicated to funding the fund victims of crime and compensation to survivors, or increasing appropriations in certain other crime prevention programs all of which is a change in priorities on the fringes as the money is relatively spare change in comparison to law enforcement budgets.

Besides being factually wrong, in the broader context these pathetic responses trying to change the narrative away from the movement to defund the police resources where they are needed the most, and bashing people like the DC mayor for purely political revenge, is the horrible optics, and associates the left with criminals not crime victims. You can google all the news articles regarding how badly the defunding the police movement hurt this last election round, with the great irony that there was very little defunding of police that actually occurred.

The big problem with the Democrats is they appear on the wrong side of a critical issue again, and condemning one of their own for reporting success against crime doesn't help. Instead it explains in so many ways why we are stuck with Trump.

Take a close look at this Politico article - I think even the Democrats agree with me:

https://politi.co/4oSa8uj


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Thank you for your enlightening response!

As I said, I was only responding to the thread title. I did not read further because I jumped at what I thought was something that was upsetting to me.

Your response here tells me I should have bothered to read further.

I agree, that entire defund the police movement was the stupidest thing imaginable!

About as stupid as the same community threatening that if Biden didn't assign Kamala as the de facto Democratic nominee, without any primaries or debates to choose, they would sit out the election en masse.

Indeed, these are ways we ended up with Trump.

My apologies for being off base.
Thank you.

PS: defund the police grew out of the George Floyd type awareness. Definitely something to attack in all that! Eliminating police forces as a proposal incredibly stupid.

PPS: I'm not deranged about Trump. You shouldn't attack a person with that. Trump is the one who's deranged. As are all his kissasses. If you lob the insult, you get grouped in with his deranged kissasses. I'm, confidently, on the right side of things with Trump. Where are you?
I guess that brings us full circle, doesn't it?

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wifeisafurd said:

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The big problem with the Democrats is they appear on the wrong side of a critical issue again, and condemning one of their own for reporting success against crime doesn't help. Instead it explains in so many ways why we are stuck with Trump.

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Excellent post. I have repeatedly spoken to this on the board…could the Ds pull their heads out of their backsides for once? Some of this is SO obvious - like politics 101 - but they are SO blinded by TDS and SO beholden to their big donors with TDS that they just stay stuck in this world of being demonstrably wrong on core issues. And the irony is their political stupidity enables Trump. It is maybe the craziest thing ever in American politics.

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An even better summary. And the legacy media perpetuate all this by continually allowing Trump to dominate the media and by alienating everyone through airing TDS commentary.

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Media needs to stay critical of Trump's insanities. Otherwise, he's given a pass, normalized.
You think he lessons his insane power grab and deconstruction of USA if everyone shuts up??

graguna said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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The big problem with the Democrats is they appear on the wrong side of a critical issue again, and condemning one of their own for reporting success against crime doesn't help. Instead it explains in so many ways why we are stuck with Trump.

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Excellent post. I have repeatedly spoken to this on the board…could the Ds pull their heads out of their backsides for once? Some of this is SO obvious - like politics 101 - but they are SO blinded by TDS and SO beholden to their big donors with TDS that they just stay stuck in this world of being demonstrably wrong on core issues. And the irony is their political stupidity enables Trump. It is maybe the craziest thing ever in American politics.

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An even better summary. And the legacy media perpetuate all this by continually allowing Trump to dominate the media and by alienating everyone through airing TDS commentary.

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Did Gemans in the 1940's who didnt belong to the nazi party suffer from HDS? Is that what it was called back then when you didnt support killing jews? What should it be called in US now where you dont support raping underage girls?

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Bravo!!!