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In reply to ChudBear • 1:53p, 9/11/26
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Cal88 said:
ChudBear said:
DiabloWags said:

The Houthis now control the Yemeni side of the Bab al-Mandab Strait.
This is the southern gateway to the Red Sea, and Suez Canal.

This is clearly problematic given that it reduces supplies thru a second major transit corridor.

In a statement Friday, the Houthi armed forces boasted of gains along the coast without mentioning the island, Mokha or the Bab el-Mandeb Strait. They vowed "escalation for escalation" in the confrontation with Saudi Arabia, while declaring that "maritime navigation is safe for all companies except for Saudi vessels."





Houthis take over key port in Yemen, raising threat to Red Sea shipping | AP News


Houthis are in last resort mode without Iran funneling them money


"Last resort"?


Yes

You make a very compelling argument.
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In reply to ChudBear • 1:59p, 9/11/26
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DiabloWags said:

The Houthis now control the Yemeni side of the Bab al-Mandab Strait.
This is the southern gateway to the Red Sea, and Suez Canal.

This is clearly problematic given that it reduces supplies thru a second major transit corridor.

In a statement Friday, the Houthi armed forces boasted of gains along the coast without mentioning the island, Mokha or the Bab el-Mandeb Strait. They vowed "escalation for escalation" in the confrontation with Saudi Arabia, while declaring that "maritime navigation is safe for all companies except for Saudi vessels."





Houthis take over key port in Yemen, raising threat to Red Sea shipping | AP News


Houthis are in last resort mode without Iran funneling them money

Source?
How do you know that Iran is no longer funneling the Houthis money?
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3:06p, 9/11/26
Iran and their proxies are holding up pretty well for a country that has lost about 5 wars in the last 6 months
Censorship has always been a tool of the fascist
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In reply to dajo9 • 3:15p, 9/11/26
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Iran and their proxies are holding up pretty well for a country that has lost about 5 wars in the last 6 months


Best Post of the Day goes to Dajo9
Classic!

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In reply to DiabloWags • 4:04p, 9/11/26
^Patton would have torn Trump a new one.
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In reply to DiabloWags • 5:36p, 9/11/26
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dajo9 said:
Iran and their proxies are holding up pretty well for a country that has lost about 5 wars in the last 6 months


Best Post of the Day goes to Dajo9 Classic!

some of us aren't a bit amused by snaps (real or imagined) of the b'tard.
# gag me with a spoon
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In reply to Cal88 • 10:01p, 9/11/26
Patton would have killed him.
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In reply to dajo9 • 4:41p, 9/14/26
dajo9 said:
Iran and their proxies are holding up pretty well for a country that has lost about 5 wars in the last 6 months


I can't understand why Brent Crude traded as high as $109 today.

Our President told us that we have TOTAL CONTROL of the Straight.

And our Energy Secretary told us that 10 million barrels per day on avg have been moving thru the Strait in the past week.

Lmao.
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9:07p, 9/14/26
Dems, your marching orders are in. Root, root, root for the team!



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In reply to Aunburdened • 6:52a, 9/15/26
Hakeem and Nancy = neocon clownshow.
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In reply to ChudBear • 7:22a, 9/15/26
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DiabloWags said:

The Houthis now control the Yemeni side of the Bab al-Mandab Strait.
This is the southern gateway to the Red Sea, and Suez Canal.

This is clearly problematic given that it reduces supplies thru a second major transit corridor.

In a statement Friday, the Houthi armed forces boasted of gains along the coast without mentioning the island, Mokha or the Bab el-Mandeb Strait. They vowed "escalation for escalation" in the confrontation with Saudi Arabia, while declaring that "maritime navigation is safe for all companies except for Saudi vessels."





Houthis take over key port in Yemen, raising threat to Red Sea shipping | AP News


Houthis are in last resort mode without Iran funneling them money


Still asking where is the proof that Iran is no longer funneling the Houthis money.
You offered zero substantiation or "source" for your claim.
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In reply to DiabloWags • 8:27a, 9/15/26
Based on the last couple of weeks, the Houthis don't seem to be strapped for cash. They've captured tens of millions worth of military equipment from Saudi-backed forces and are now in position to charge tolls for passage through the Bab El Mandab.
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In reply to Cal88 • 8:52a, 9/15/26

Cal88 said:
Based on the last couple of weeks, the Houthis don't seem to be strapped for cash. They've captured tens of millions worth of military equipment from Saudi-backed forces and are now in position to charge tolls for passage through the Bab El Mandab.


Iran certainly has upped the ante on Washington.
It would be "foolish" to claim otherwise.




The attack on the pipeline just as the Houthis were strengthening their hold on that very choke point shows this operation was an Iranian counter-move, designed to sabotage Saudi oil exports.

So far, Iran's venture has succeeded. Once the oil in storage at Yanbu has been loaded, Saudi Arabia will have to suspend its Red Sea exports until the pipeline is repaired, which could take weeks.

The world will lose about 4 per cent of its oil, in addition to the longstanding disruption of the Strait of Hormuz, explaining why the price of a barrel of Brent crude has risen by 10 per cent in the last week to $107.

By driving up the oil price, Iran's leaders want to impose a cost on the US economy and make gasoline more expensive before the mid-term elections in November.

Most importantly, Iran also aims to wreak enough destruction to compel Saudi Arabia to use its influence in Washington to urge Trump to settle the conflict. And Iran's price for any de-escalation calling off the Iraqi militias and restraining the Houthis would certainly include the lifting of America's blockade of its oil exports.

So this is how Iran is trying to break Trump's stranglehold. And there is plenty more that the Islamic Republic's leaders might do. They could, for example, resume firing ballistic missiles at the other Gulf states with the twin goals of forcing the oil price still higher and inducing more US allies to implore Trump to reach a new peace agreement.

Iran is trying to break Trump's stranglehold by hitting him where it hurts

Houthis attack Saudi Arabia as Gulf-Iran talks are postponed


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9:05a, 9/15/26

The U.S. Military's Inspector General in an official report sent to Congress yesterday, puts the estimated cost of the Iran War up to mid-June at $33.4 Billion . . . mostly on munitions.



Iran war has cost well over $33.4 billion, Pentagon report says
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In reply to DiabloWags • 9:07a, 9/15/26
It's probably more like $100B, and counting.
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In reply to Aunburdened • 9:37a, 9/15/26
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Dems, your marching orders are in. Root, root, root for the team!


I thought there might be a reason this was clipped down to just 8 seconds, so here's the full interview. There's a Trump clip that plays at about 1:45 that leads into her comments:



"Let's get this done" refers to Trump's promise to end the war, she's saying he needs to actually do it and not wait until after the election. She then goes on to say the war was preventable if the Iran deal (JCPOA) hadn't been ripped up. This hardly represents support for the war.

This should not be mistaken for me saying Pelosi sounds good in this interview. I think she mostly sounds bad and very clearly a politician past her prime (and her best skill was never interviews or messaging anyway). But this selective clip is clearly designed as engagement bait.
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In reply to sycasey • 9:40a, 9/15/26
Yup.

This was just more Twitter click-bait garbage from Ken Klippenstein.
I wish people would stop spamming the board with this crap.

We are talking about a guy (Klippenstein) that has no problem making fun of disabled people.

And who hasn't had an issue with the mass of MAGA and bigoted accounts cheering on his tweets and promoting blatant ableism.
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In reply to sycasey • 11:23a, 9/15/26
sycasey said:
Aunburdened said:
Dems, your marching orders are in. Root, root, root for the team!


I thought there might be a reason this was clipped down to just 8 seconds, so here's the full interview. There's a Trump clip that plays at about 1:45 that leads into her comments:



"Let's get this done" refers to Trump's promise to end the war, she's saying he needs to actually do it and not wait until after the election. She then goes on to say the war was preventable if the Iran deal (JCPOA) hadn't been ripped up. This hardly represents support for the war.

This should not be mistaken for me saying Pelosi sounds good in this interview. I think she mostly sounds bad and very clearly a politician past her prime (and her best skill was never interviews or messaging anyway). But this selective clip is clearly designed as engagement bait.

LOL at your framing. Not once does she say the war was a bad idea. Her complaint was merely that it didn't get done on the timeline he promised. She also repeats the lie that Iran was working on a nuclear weapon. She wants this war won instead of ended.

She goes on to describe Obama's work as masterful, but then this is the woman who thinks she and Obama fixed health care so I'm sure she'd say anything he did was masterful.
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In reply to DiabloWags • 11:24a, 9/15/26
DiabloWags said:
Yup.

This was just more Twitter click-bait garbage from Ken Klippenstein.
I wish people would stop spamming the board with this crap.

Someone who spams the board relentlessly with all kinds of stuff doesn't like it when someone else points out the hypocrisy of the anti-Trump camp. A true tragedy.
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In reply to Aunburdened • 11:42a, 9/15/26
Aunburdened said:
sycasey said:
Aunburdened said:
Dems, your marching orders are in. Root, root, root for the team!


I thought there might be a reason this was clipped down to just 8 seconds, so here's the full interview. There's a Trump clip that plays at about 1:45 that leads into her comments:



"Let's get this done" refers to Trump's promise to end the war, she's saying he needs to actually do it and not wait until after the election. She then goes on to say the war was preventable if the Iran deal (JCPOA) hadn't been ripped up. This hardly represents support for the war.

This should not be mistaken for me saying Pelosi sounds good in this interview. I think she mostly sounds bad and very clearly a politician past her prime (and her best skill was never interviews or messaging anyway). But this selective clip is clearly designed as engagement bait.

LOL at your framing. Not once does she say the war was a bad idea. Her complaint was merely that it didn't get done on the timeline he promised. She also repeats the lie that Iran was working on a nuclear weapon. She wants this war won instead of ended.

She goes on to describe Obama's work as masterful, but then this is the woman who thinks she and Obama fixed health care so I'm sure she'd say anything he did was masterful.

Here's what actual Congressional opposition to the war looks like for the Pelosi pom pom crowd. It won't be successful, but at least it plants a firm stake in the ground.

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In reply to Aunburdened • 11:49a, 9/15/26
Aunburdened said:
sycasey said:
Aunburdened said:
Dems, your marching orders are in. Root, root, root for the team!


I thought there might be a reason this was clipped down to just 8 seconds, so here's the full interview. There's a Trump clip that plays at about 1:45 that leads into her comments:



"Let's get this done" refers to Trump's promise to end the war, she's saying he needs to actually do it and not wait until after the election. She then goes on to say the war was preventable if the Iran deal (JCPOA) hadn't been ripped up. This hardly represents support for the war.

This should not be mistaken for me saying Pelosi sounds good in this interview. I think she mostly sounds bad and very clearly a politician past her prime (and her best skill was never interviews or messaging anyway). But this selective clip is clearly designed as engagement bait.

LOL at your framing. Not once does she say the war was a bad idea. Her complaint was merely that it didn't get done on the timeline he promised. She also repeats the lie that Iran was working on a nuclear weapon. She wants this war won instead of ended.

She goes on to describe Obama's work as masterful, but then this is the woman who thinks she and Obama fixed health care so I'm sure she'd say anything he did was masterful.

Wait, how is that a lie? Iran has a nuclear program, does it not?
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In reply to Aunburdened • 12:17p, 9/15/26
Aunburdened said:
DiabloWags said:
Yup.

This was just more Twitter click-bait garbage from Ken Klippenstein.
I wish people would stop spamming the board with this crap.

Someone who spams the board relentlessly with all kinds of stuff doesn't like it when someone else points out the hypocrisy of the anti-Trump camp. A true tragedy.


FACT: I don't make fun of disabled people.

FACT: Ken Klippenstein (who you often quote here and feel is credible) does.

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2:34p, 9/15/26


Popcorn Ready!

Republican launches impeachment effort against Pete Hegseth over Iran war
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8:11p, 9/15/26
Fresh in from the Moral Victory Only But F Trump Nonetheless Dept.:

House passes war powers resolution to limit military action in Iran https://thehill.com/homenews/house/6091940-house-iran-war-powers-resolution/
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In reply to Aunburdened • 8:39p, 9/15/26
Aunburdened said:
Aunburdened said:
sycasey said:
Aunburdened said:
Dems, your marching orders are in. Root, root, root for the team!


I thought there might be a reason this was clipped down to just 8 seconds, so here's the full interview. There's a Trump clip that plays at about 1:45 that leads into her comments:



"Let's get this done" refers to Trump's promise to end the war, she's saying he needs to actually do it and not wait until after the election. She then goes on to say the war was preventable if the Iran deal (JCPOA) hadn't been ripped up. This hardly represents support for the war.

This should not be mistaken for me saying Pelosi sounds good in this interview. I think she mostly sounds bad and very clearly a politician past her prime (and her best skill was never interviews or messaging anyway). But this selective clip is clearly designed as engagement bait.

LOL at your framing. Not once does she say the war was a bad idea. Her complaint was merely that it didn't get done on the timeline he promised. She also repeats the lie that Iran was working on a nuclear weapon. She wants this war won instead of ended.

She goes on to describe Obama's work as masterful, but then this is the woman who thinks she and Obama fixed health care so I'm sure she'd say anything he did was masterful.

Here's what actual Congressional opposition to the war looks like for the Pelosi pom pom crowd. It won't be successful, but at least it plants a firm stake in the ground.



We are celebrating performative cosplay now?
Censorship has always been a tool of the fascist
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In reply to dajo9 • 8:58p, 9/15/26
dajo9 said:
Aunburdened said:
Aunburdened said:
sycasey said:
Aunburdened said:
Dems, your marching orders are in. Root, root, root for the team!


I thought there might be a reason this was clipped down to just 8 seconds, so here's the full interview. There's a Trump clip that plays at about 1:45 that leads into her comments:



"Let's get this done" refers to Trump's promise to end the war, she's saying he needs to actually do it and not wait until after the election. She then goes on to say the war was preventable if the Iran deal (JCPOA) hadn't been ripped up. This hardly represents support for the war.

This should not be mistaken for me saying Pelosi sounds good in this interview. I think she mostly sounds bad and very clearly a politician past her prime (and her best skill was never interviews or messaging anyway). But this selective clip is clearly designed as engagement bait.

LOL at your framing. Not once does she say the war was a bad idea. Her complaint was merely that it didn't get done on the timeline he promised. She also repeats the lie that Iran was working on a nuclear weapon. She wants this war won instead of ended.

She goes on to describe Obama's work as masterful, but then this is the woman who thinks she and Obama fixed health care so I'm sure she'd say anything he did was masterful.

Here's what actual Congressional opposition to the war looks like for the Pelosi pom pom crowd. It won't be successful, but at least it plants a firm stake in the ground.



We are celebrating performative cosplay now?

Read the bolded part if you have trouble understanding
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10:19p, 9/15/26
Maybe starting unnecessary wars in oil producing nations is not such a great idea. But Mama Bear wants us to root for our country!

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In reply to Aunburdened • 4:16a, 9/16/26
Aunburdened said:
dajo9 said:
Aunburdened said:
Aunburdened said:
sycasey said:
Aunburdened said:
Dems, your marching orders are in. Root, root, root for the team!


I thought there might be a reason this was clipped down to just 8 seconds, so here's the full interview. There's a Trump clip that plays at about 1:45 that leads into her comments:



"Let's get this done" refers to Trump's promise to end the war, she's saying he needs to actually do it and not wait until after the election. She then goes on to say the war was preventable if the Iran deal (JCPOA) hadn't been ripped up. This hardly represents support for the war.

This should not be mistaken for me saying Pelosi sounds good in this interview. I think she mostly sounds bad and very clearly a politician past her prime (and her best skill was never interviews or messaging anyway). But this selective clip is clearly designed as engagement bait.

LOL at your framing. Not once does she say the war was a bad idea. Her complaint was merely that it didn't get done on the timeline he promised. She also repeats the lie that Iran was working on a nuclear weapon. She wants this war won instead of ended.

She goes on to describe Obama's work as masterful, but then this is the woman who thinks she and Obama fixed health care so I'm sure she'd say anything he did was masterful.

Here's what actual Congressional opposition to the war looks like for the Pelosi pom pom crowd. It won't be successful, but at least it plants a firm stake in the ground.



We are celebrating performative cosplay now?

Read the bolded part if you have trouble understanding


I understand you know it is performative and you are still celebrating it
Censorship has always been a tool of the fascist
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In reply to dajo9 • 6:41a, 9/16/26
dajo9 said:
Aunburdened said:
dajo9 said:
Aunburdened said:
Aunburdened said:
sycasey said:
Aunburdened said:
Dems, your marching orders are in. Root, root, root for the team!


I thought there might be a reason this was clipped down to just 8 seconds, so here's the full interview. There's a Trump clip that plays at about 1:45 that leads into her comments:



"Let's get this done" refers to Trump's promise to end the war, she's saying he needs to actually do it and not wait until after the election. She then goes on to say the war was preventable if the Iran deal (JCPOA) hadn't been ripped up. This hardly represents support for the war.

This should not be mistaken for me saying Pelosi sounds good in this interview. I think she mostly sounds bad and very clearly a politician past her prime (and her best skill was never interviews or messaging anyway). But this selective clip is clearly designed as engagement bait.

LOL at your framing. Not once does she say the war was a bad idea. Her complaint was merely that it didn't get done on the timeline he promised. She also repeats the lie that Iran was working on a nuclear weapon. She wants this war won instead of ended.

She goes on to describe Obama's work as masterful, but then this is the woman who thinks she and Obama fixed health care so I'm sure she'd say anything he did was masterful.

Here's what actual Congressional opposition to the war looks like for the Pelosi pom pom crowd. It won't be successful, but at least it plants a firm stake in the ground.


We are celebrating performative cosplay now?

Read the bolded part if you have trouble understanding

I understand you know it is performative and you are still celebrating it

Was Barbara Lee's vote against the war in Afghanistan performative too, or does it look brave and principled in hindsight?
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In reply to Aunburdened • 7:56a, 9/16/26
Aunburdened said:
dajo9 said:
Aunburdened said:
dajo9 said:
Aunburdened said:
Aunburdened said:
sycasey said:
Aunburdened said:
Dems, your marching orders are in. Root, root, root for the team!


I thought there might be a reason this was clipped down to just 8 seconds, so here's the full interview. There's a Trump clip that plays at about 1:45 that leads into her comments:



"Let's get this done" refers to Trump's promise to end the war, she's saying he needs to actually do it and not wait until after the election. She then goes on to say the war was preventable if the Iran deal (JCPOA) hadn't been ripped up. This hardly represents support for the war.

This should not be mistaken for me saying Pelosi sounds good in this interview. I think she mostly sounds bad and very clearly a politician past her prime (and her best skill was never interviews or messaging anyway). But this selective clip is clearly designed as engagement bait.

LOL at your framing. Not once does she say the war was a bad idea. Her complaint was merely that it didn't get done on the timeline he promised. She also repeats the lie that Iran was working on a nuclear weapon. She wants this war won instead of ended.

She goes on to describe Obama's work as masterful, but then this is the woman who thinks she and Obama fixed health care so I'm sure she'd say anything he did was masterful.

Here's what actual Congressional opposition to the war looks like for the Pelosi pom pom crowd. It won't be successful, but at least it plants a firm stake in the ground.


We are celebrating performative cosplay now?

Read the bolded part if you have trouble understanding

I understand you know it is performative and you are still celebrating it

Was Barbara Lee's vote against the war in Afghanistan performative too, or does it look brave and principled in hindsight?


There was a bill on the floor and Barbara Lee had to cast a vote. Nothing performative about casting a vote. And her vote was wrong. That doesn't mean Bush didn't completely screw up the war.

I think performative actions to make a point and be heard are good. But you and others always criticize them when you don't like the people involved. I'm just pointing out your hypocrisy. I like what Massie did.
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In reply to dajo9 • 8:02a, 9/16/26
dajo9 said:

There was a bill on the floor and Barbara Lee had to cast a vote. Nothing performative about casting a vote. And her vote was wrong. That doesn't mean Bush didn't completely screw up the war.

I think performative actions to make a point and be heard are good. But you and others always criticize them when you don't like the people involved. I'm just pointing out your hypocrisy. I like what Massie did.


I wonder what a Bernie Sanders supporter like Yogi would say about Bernie's highly "performative" BS when it comes to his legislative "efforts". Look no further than his proposed amendments to the Inflation Reduction Act, which he knew would have torpedoed the deal, but he made a PAGEANT out of them anyway.

His proposed Amendments got voted down 99 to 1, 97 to 3, 99 to 1, 98 to 1, and 97 to 1.
He was the lone vote.



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7:08p, 9/16/26
I think the Gulf States have now realized that the U.S. has pulled them into a conflict that could run for years .... with no clear strategy for ending it.

Trump's approach to Iran has rested on grinding it down through direct military and economic pressure while assuming the wider region stays manageable.

That assumption was always fragile.

See Yemen.
See Bab al-Nabdeb Strait.
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In reply to DiabloWags • 7:21p, 9/16/26
Exactly.
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In reply to DiabloWags • 7:25p, 9/16/26
DiabloWags said:
I think the Gulf States have now realized that the U.S. has pulled them into a conflict that could run for years .... with no clear strategy for ending it.

Trump's approach to Iran has rested on grinding it down through direct military and economic pressure while assuming the wider region stays manageable.

That assumption was always fragile.

See Yemen.
See Bab al-Nabdeb Strait.


They also thought the US had their backs, that is also no longer true. Trump at least realizes that coming to the aid of the Saudis is not going to help him.
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7:47p, 9/16/26
Trump said to MBS what Henry Gondorff said to Doyle Lonnegan after he fleeced him in the rigged poker game:

“Cancel my subscription to the Resurrection
Send my credentials to the House of Detention
I got some friends inside”
—Jim Morrison

“I love Cal deeply, by the way, what are the directions to The Portal from Sproul Plaza?”
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