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Cal88 said:

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Hardly. He asked a question and made no comments besides the fact he couldn't find it.

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It's pretty clear what Dean's angle was here, not a good look for him, but of course you will obfuscate.

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When someone asks for proof of something, my first thought is always "what a jerk" /s

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My first thought is what a loser when it was found in about 2 prompts of a search or less. Cain must be a luddite

VOTE BLUE AND VOTE GAVIN

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The person tweeting the response is clearly a liar. It is very difficult to find pictures of El Sayed playing football, other than the now existing story because of this tweet. I spent five minutes trying and couldn't organically find such photo.

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No it isn't that hard to find pics of El Sayed's football team.

https://t.co/tnkCvTyHMP pic.twitter.com/0bUYj0wNZk

— Bobbie Suff (@RSuff23) August 10, 2026

MAGA Superman actor Dean Cain's attempt to embarrass Democrat backfires immediately
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/superman-dean-cain-abdul-el-sayed-b3030480.html

El Sayed's opponents/AIPAC spent over $50M trying to smear him, given that it would be incredibly dumb to think that he could have gotten away with lying about something as basic and public as his HS athletic background. Then again those types of campaigns are only meant to sway the dumbest, most racist elements in the voting public.

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I think you proved my point since you couldn't find anything organically. Thank you.

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That's MAGA spin, what does that even mean?

When you have a losing argument, just say you won!

https://abovethelaw.com/2026/08/trump-issues-new-birthright-citizenship-orders-in-direct-defiance-of-supreme-court/


VOTE BLUE AND VOTE GAVIN

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It means that he didn't quickly find anything indicating that the guy played high school football except for articles resulting from the initial tweet. This should be obvious to anybody not purposely acting dumb who pays attention to what was posted recently.

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How is an article from the MSM describing El Sayed's background and HS football career not "organic"?

Dean Cain is a moron and a liar, he tried to smear El Sayed implying that he had lied about his HS football background and got egg on his face for that. Your attempt to whitewash this is pure partisan bias.

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Because the article was written as a result of the inquiry. It is basic logic.

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Nonsense, that info was available on his Wiki page, sourced with an article from a major newspaper published in 2017:

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In 2003, El-Sayed graduated from Bloomfield Hills Andover High School, where he was a three-sport athlete and captain of the wrestling, football, and lacrosse teams.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_El-Sayed#cite_note-GaM-10][8][/url]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_El-Sayed#Early_life,_family_and_education

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Besides, it would be incredibly dumb to assume that El Sayed lied about being a captain of his HS football team in a campaign where literally tens of millions have already been spent by his political opponents to discredit him, if he lied it would have certainly come out.

Cain is a moron for having tried to smear El Sayed and was caught playing dirty partisan politics. People trying to justify this are completely misguided and at this point, very disingenuous.

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The contention is simply that it was hard at that time to find evidence that the dude was on the football team. And it was. I make no other judgements. Please don't twist things because his updated wiki page links to what used to be an obscure article. And, yes, dude should have looked a lot harder before posting the tweet or not posted it at all because ultimately this makes him look bad. That still doesn't make this easy to find info at the time.

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El Sayed himself published photos of his HS football days months ago on his social media, it wasn't hard to find. And you're assuming that the info on Wiki about his HS activities was recently added, which isn't true, because a lot of his Wiki bio was sourced from that Globe and Mail 2017 article. That info was available on El Sayed's Wiki page 3 weeks ago when Dean tried to swift boat El Sayed.

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It is true because I looked weeks ago and couldn't find proof of his football experience. I will go with my experience over your assumptions and those with an axe to grind. I agree that the original tweet does reek of xenophobia. However, that doesn't make his football experience suddenly easy to find (at that time).

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You're not exactly unbiased here.

It didn't take me much work to find proof of Sayed's HS football background, because that info was already available a month ago on his Wiki page, which linked the Globe and Mail article establishing that he was the captain of his HS football team.

That article and the info about Sayed having been a HS FB captain was already posted on his Wiki page when you allegedly searched for this.

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The wiki page links to an obscure canadian article behind a paywall from something called The Globe and Mail. This info isn't easy to verify.

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The Globe and Mail is Canada's premier national newspaper, and that article was already available on Sayed's Wiki page on August 10 when the subject came up, that's how I found it, and was able to read it. Here's the proof from my own browser history :



Even if you hadn't read the article, its content was sourced, verified and published on Sayed's wiki page, establishing the fact that he was the captain of his HS FB team.

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Hardly. He asked a question and made no comments besides the fact he couldn't find it.

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It's pretty clear what Dean's angle was here, not a good look for him, but of course you will obfuscate.

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When someone asks for proof of something, my first thought is always "what a jerk" /s

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My first thought is what a loser when it was found in about 2 prompts of a search or less. Cain must be a luddite

VOTE BLUE AND VOTE GAVIN

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The person tweeting the response is clearly a liar. It is very difficult to find pictures of El Sayed playing football, other than the now existing story because of this tweet. I spent five minutes trying and couldn't organically find such photo.

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No it isn't that hard to find pics of El Sayed's football team.

https://t.co/tnkCvTyHMP pic.twitter.com/0bUYj0wNZk

— Bobbie Suff (@RSuff23) August 10, 2026

MAGA Superman actor Dean Cain's attempt to embarrass Democrat backfires immediately
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/superman-dean-cain-abdul-el-sayed-b3030480.html

El Sayed's opponents/AIPAC spent over $50M trying to smear him, given that it would be incredibly dumb to think that he could have gotten away with lying about something as basic and public as his HS athletic background. Then again those types of campaigns are only meant to sway the dumbest, most racist elements in the voting public.

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I think you proved my point since you couldn't find anything organically. Thank you.

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That's MAGA spin, what does that even mean?

When you have a losing argument, just say you won!

https://abovethelaw.com/2026/08/trump-issues-new-birthright-citizenship-orders-in-direct-defiance-of-supreme-court/


VOTE BLUE AND VOTE GAVIN

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It means that he didn't quickly find anything indicating that the guy played high school football except for articles resulting from the initial tweet. This should be obvious to anybody not purposely acting dumb who pays attention to what was posted recently.

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How is an article from the MSM describing El Sayed's background and HS football career not "organic"?

Dean Cain is a moron and a liar, he tried to smear El Sayed implying that he had lied about his HS football background and got egg on his face for that. Your attempt to whitewash this is pure partisan bias.

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Because the article was written as a result of the inquiry. It is basic logic.

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Nonsense, that info was available on his Wiki page, sourced with an article from a major newspaper published in 2017:

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In 2003, El-Sayed graduated from Bloomfield Hills Andover High School, where he was a three-sport athlete and captain of the wrestling, football, and lacrosse teams.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_El-Sayed#cite_note-GaM-10][8][/url]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_El-Sayed#Early_life,_family_and_education

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Besides, it would be incredibly dumb to assume that El Sayed lied about being a captain of his HS football team in a campaign where literally tens of millions have already been spent by his political opponents to discredit him, if he lied it would have certainly come out.

Cain is a moron for having tried to smear El Sayed and was caught playing dirty partisan politics. People trying to justify this are completely misguided and at this point, very disingenuous.

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The contention is simply that it was hard at that time to find evidence that the dude was on the football team. And it was. I make no other judgements. Please don't twist things because his updated wiki page links to what used to be an obscure article. And, yes, dude should have looked a lot harder before posting the tweet or not posted it at all because ultimately this makes him look bad. That still doesn't make this easy to find info at the time.

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El Sayed himself published photos of his HS football days months ago on his social media, it wasn't hard to find. And you're assuming that the info on Wiki about his HS activities was recently added, which isn't true, because a lot of his Wiki bio was sourced from that Globe and Mail 2017 article. That info was available on El Sayed's Wiki page 3 weeks ago when Dean tried to swift boat El Sayed.

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It is true because I looked weeks ago and couldn't find proof of his football experience. I will go with my experience over your assumptions and those with an axe to grind. I agree that the original tweet does reek of xenophobia. However, that doesn't make his football experience suddenly easy to find (at that time).

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You're not exactly unbiased here.

It didn't take me much work to find proof of Sayed's HS football background, because that info was already available a month ago on his Wiki page, which linked the Globe and Mail article establishing that he was the captain of his HS football team.

That article and the info about Sayed having been a HS FB captain was already posted on his Wiki page when you allegedly searched for this.

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The wiki page links to an obscure canadian article behind a paywall from something called The Globe and Mail. This info isn't easy to verify.

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The Globe and Mail is Canada's premier national newspaper, and that article was already available on Sayed's Wiki page on August 10 when the subject came up, that's how I found it, and was able to read it. Here's the proof from my own browser history :



Even if you hadn't read the article, its content was sourced, verified and published on Sayed's wiki page, establishing the fact that he was the captain of his HS FB team.

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1) We live in the USA.
2) The article is behind a paywall.
3) It is cool that you have 100% trust in wikipedia. I didn't know you did. Good to know.

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1) The use of English language international sources like the Daily Mail or the Globe and Mail is commonplace

2) The article is not behind a paywall, I was able to access it just now:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/us-politics/michigan-abdul-el-sayed/article34966598/

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As well in a situation like this Wikipedia is pretty trustworthy because someone as heavily scrutinized as Sayed could never get away with a fabricated newspaper article as a source.

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Thank you for pointing this out.
The scrutiny provided is based on basic logic.
Game, set, match as they say at the U.S. Open.

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You're right about the G&M paywall,

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You're right about the G&M paywall, but there were several other sources confirming his football past including pictures of him in his high school football uniform that came up in a quick search, that detractors were wrongly claiming as being AI generated.

As well in a situation like this Wikipedia is pretty trustworthy because someone as heavily scrutinized as Sayed could never get away with a fabricated newspaper article as a source.

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What the Hasan Piker freakout is really about: https://t.co/i2OSkoYmB4

— Ken Klippenstein (@kenklippenstein) September 1, 2026

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Understand the media frenzy for what it is: a DEFCON 1-level war against Michigan Senate candidate Abdul El-Sayed, by a Party establishment frantically hitting the panic button to reestablish its control. But since El-Sayed is the nominee for Senate a chamber the Party also wants to control it has to go after him indirectly, through proxies like Piker.

I could go into Hasan's comments and the context being withheld in the mainstream depictions (see his comments in their entirety here), but what's the point?

If you want to know why Piker is a diversionary skirmish compared to the full war, just listen to former Biden White House spokesperson turned MS NOW host Jen Psaki lament the real issue here: that the Party leadership is losing the ability to select its own candidates. Here's what she said to a Democratic strategist on her show recently:

" I think we both remember well when party leadership really selected the nominees. Now, you would never say it that way exactly, but they would … they would put money behind it; they would endorse. And now it looks very much like party leaders are not picking the nominees. In fact, party leaders pushing nominees is a negative it is a negative in many of these races."

El-Sayed, a political outsider, had the audacity to run against the party's chosen candidate, Haley Stevens; and then, despite his unsanctioned campaign and unsanctioned backers like Piker, he won.

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Stevens is the candidate of the past. She worked her way up in the Party apparatus, coming out of the Hillary Clinton campaign in 2008, to assume a life of public service based upon nothing more than being a Party hack.

El-Sayed, on the other hand, spent that time working as an epidemiologist after getting an advanced degree in public health. Informed by this expertise, he advocates universal healthcare and advancing affordability things like reducing housing and utility costs and fighting predatory landlords by taxing billionaire wealth. As Zohran Mamdani proved in New York, it is exactly what the voters want.

So why the frenzied attack? It happens virtually every time a candidate that didn't come up through the usual party pipeline of internships and staff positions gets close to power. Washington reaches for the same playbook: declare a national security emergency (enter Piker) or find some remark to argue that the insurgent candidate isn't "qualified," polished, or if all else fails claim they represent a threat to America.

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We unfortunately live in a two-party dominated country, one that people find increasingly unresponsive and obsolete. Republicans were willing to blow up their Party to choose Trump. The same is happening with the Democrats, and the Party leaders clearly see the long-term threat to its survival.

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