bear2034 said:

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WalterSobchak said:

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How much were you paid to post this here?

Be honest.

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AntiochWags paid me a million rubles.

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bear2034 said:

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WalterSobchak said:

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bear2034 said:

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WalterSobchak said:

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How much were you paid to post this here?

Be honest.

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AntiochWags paid me a million rubles.

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I thought you only accepted crypto, no?

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Only bitcoin but Wags only carries ruble.

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bearister said:

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Sh@it, your Dad was Vietnam Era? Mine was in WWII and my grandfather fought with the Wild West Div.(91st Infantry Division) in France during WWI and Earl Warren was his Drill Sergeant at Fort Lewis, WA. They drafted my grandfather shortly after he hit our shores from Ireland and then shipped him back to Europe for a trench warfare vacation.

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oski003 said:

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concordtom said:

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bearister said:

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Kids are raised soft these days. Not sure how those p@ussies would have stood up to having their heads split open by OPD and Alameda County sheriff Billy clubs from atop kicking horses during the Oakland Induction Center protests in 1967.



*A lot of those mean cops were recruited from the South.
* My Dad used to watch the action from his office in a high rise on 14th Street. He would come home and describe how brutal the beatings were.

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After my many years of research into historical timelines, my dad finally admitted that he asked my mom to marry when he did as an attempt to continue his deferment.
1. College deferment
2. Marital deferment
3. Parental deferment (my older brother, same age as Liz Cheney!)
1976: divorce, haha.

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Bone spurs? Jk

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bearister said:

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Sh@it, your Dad was Vietnam Era? Mine was in WWII and my grandfather fought with the Wild West Div.(91st Infantry Division) in France during WWI and Earl Warren was his Drill Sergeant at Fort Lewis, WA. They drafted my grandfather shortly after he hit our shores from Ireland and then shipped him back to Europe for a trench warfare vacation.

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oski003 said:

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https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/26/health/fda-menthol-cigarettes/index.html

Biden, who seems to care more about being reelected than helping his constituents, has delayed the ban on menthol cigarettes that the FDA was looking to ban in 2022. While I normally advocate less government overreach, this is something clearly in the wheelhouse of the FDA, and I absolutely hate tobacco and tobacco companies. Around 20,000 folks may be saved per year with this ban, including 7000+ African-Americans, who are targeted as Menthol's audience.

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bear2034 said:

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WalterSobchak said:

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How much were you paid to post this here?

Be honest.

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AntiochWags paid me a million rubles.

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bearister said:

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I was born in 1954 and avoided the Vietnam Meat Grinder because:

" Draft lotteries were conducted again from 1971 to 1975 (for 1952 to 1956 births). The birth year of 1952 was the last draftees, with the assigned number 95 being the last number drafted, which represented those born on July 20, 1952. The draft numbers issued from 1972 to 1975 were not used to call any men into service as the last draft call was on December 7, and authority to induct expired July 1, 1973."
-Wilipedia
*What Theater did your dad serve in and which branch?

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concordtom said:

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oski003 said:

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concordtom said:

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bearister said:

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Kids are raised soft these days. Not sure how those p@ussies would have stood up to having their heads split open by OPD and Alameda County sheriff Billy clubs from atop kicking horses during the Oakland Induction Center protests in 1967.



*A lot of those mean cops were recruited from the South.
* My Dad used to watch the action from his office in a high rise on 14th Street. He would come home and describe how brutal the beatings were.

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After my many years of research into historical timelines, my dad finally admitted that he asked my mom to marry when he did as an attempt to continue his deferment.
1. College deferment
2. Marital deferment
3. Parental deferment (my older brother, same age as Liz Cheney!)
1976: divorce, haha.

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Bone spurs? Jk

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I would have gone to Canada if that's what it took.
I'm not into military, guns and all that honor militarism BS. The only Duty I've offered is to do whatever it takes in the jury pool to get Trump hung.

But then don't lie about it afterwards (bone spurs, tx air National guard, and all those other excuses).

The biggest travesty is when the GOP took an ACTUAL hero, Kerry, into a bad guy with that LYING swift boat advertisement.

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oski003 said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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oski003 said:

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https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/26/health/fda-menthol-cigarettes/index.html

Biden, who seems to care more about being reelected than helping his constituents, has delayed the ban on menthol cigarettes that the FDA was looking to ban in 2022. While I normally advocate less government overreach, this is something clearly in the wheelhouse of the FDA, and I absolutely hate tobacco and tobacco companies. Around 20,000 folks may be saved per year with this ban, including 7000+ African-Americans, who are targeted as Menthol's audience.

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With that logic, we need to ban cars. I hate government playing daddy. Smoking is bad...so make it safer. Take the chemicals out. People know the risks, let them decide what risks they want to take in life. Hate nanny state government.

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Cars do something positive. Cigarettes got the population addicted with a bed of lies. There is zero benefit to smoking cigarettes, and they cause massive health problems and death, as well as expose others to such (to a much lesser degree).

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concordtom said:

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bearister said:

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Sh@it, your Dad was Vietnam Era? Mine was in WWII and my grandfather fought with the Wild West Div.(91st Infantry Division) in France during WWI and Earl Warren was his Drill Sergeant at Fort Lewis, WA. They drafted my grandfather shortly after he hit our shores from Ireland and then shipped him back to Europe for a trench warfare vacation.

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My dad was born in 41. His father (Cal band) never saw action in ww2, navy, thankfully - he didn't want none of it.

My stepfather graduated Princeton in 44 and immediately went to Columbia that summer and became the navigator officer for a communications boat that crossed the Atlantic in a flotilla of like 600 ships. They entered the Med and a shot down plane took out their communication mast so they were dead in the water till dawn.
He spent time ashore in Libya, got mumps and was in a hospital in Naples during an axis bombing raid that knocked over his water glass. That's as close as it got.

The best line my stepfather shared was his best friend from Princeton, who he later went to Harvard law school with, was on a PT boat in the Pacific during a furious battle. He found a scared young sailor hiding behind the gun turret, the only solid thing on board, and he told the boy,
"Say Jimmy, don't you know it's not going to matter if the one with your name on it comes?"
The reply: "I'm not worried about the one with my name on it! I'm worried about the one that says 'To Whom It May Concern'!"

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MinotStateBeav said:

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WalterSobchak said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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oski003 said:

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https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/26/health/fda-menthol-cigarettes/index.html

Biden, who seems to care more about being reelected than helping his constituents, has delayed the ban on menthol cigarettes that the FDA was looking to ban in 2022. While I normally advocate less government overreach, this is something clearly in the wheelhouse of the FDA, and I absolutely hate tobacco and tobacco companies. Around 20,000 folks may be saved per year with this ban, including 7000+ African-Americans, who are targeted as Menthol's audience.

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With that logic, we need to ban cars. I hate government playing daddy. Smoking is bad...so make it safer. Take the chemicals out. People know the risks, let them decide what risks they want to take in life. Hate nanny state government.

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What I hate are people who think their rights supersede mine. Your right to kill yourself with cigarette smoke isn't more important than my right not to breathe your smoke. You're right, I know the risks and have a zero tolerance policy. You have no more right to invade my body with your smoke than I have a right to invade yours with a bullet.

You want to smoke where it can't reach me? No problem, I'll never even know because it doesn't reach me. You want to smoke where I can smell it? We're gonna have a problem.

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My rights do supersede your rights when my rights have nothing to do with you. I love how in your idiot argument we're all just blowing smoke in your face hahahahaha. "We're gonna have a problem" I'm not worried.

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Unit2Sucks said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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That's not your decision to make though. Life and Liberty are protected here. Look, we all die, but we should have the freedom to live our life freely until our times up. I think it should be illegal to overtax cigs too. Smokers shouldn't have to pay for your states poor ability to deal their finances.

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Cigarettes are undertaxed. Non-smoking taxpayers end up paying the bill for smokers who free-ride off the healthcare system. A decade ago, it cost Medicare $45b per year and Medicaid $40b. Not sure what it is now but I doubt it's lower, certainly not on a per smoker basis.

Either we need to raise taxes significantly on smokers to ensure they bare the financial responsibilities for their lifestyle choice, or we need to stop covering smoking-related illnesses. Perhaps they can pay for supplemental health insurance.

Smoking is pretty unique in the havoc it wreaks on personal health. A cardiologist told me that bypass surgeries are down significantly in the last few decades in large part because fewer people smoke (smokers are 2-4x more likely to develop coronary artery disease).

The reduction in smoking, thanks to government intervention, has been one of the biggest healthcare success stories of our lifetimes. I can think of very few things my children can do to extend their life than never picking up a cigarette.

My great aunt lived beyond 100 as a smoker and I hope any smokers here are as fortunate.

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