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In reply to BearlySane88 • 6:37p, 9/11/25
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It's everywhere. Twitter, tiktok, Reddit, bluesky

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In reply to dajo9 • 6:40p, 9/11/25
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BearlySane88 said:
And in the same interview is quoted as saying it was awful and he doesn't condone. Political hurt isn't violence. He never at all celebrated the attack. I recognize we likely won't see this issue the same way and that's fine. Appreciate the discourse

We won't see it the same way because you refuse to acknowledge Charlie Kirk joked about the attack on the Pelosi household

He did? Evidence?
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 6:46p, 9/11/25
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Way to pivot back there after not getting the response you wanted. Again free speech is free speech but where/what did he actually say about the Pelosi situation? What joke did he make besides the bail comment? Truly asking

Michael Jordan is a dick. Should we murder him?

That's a loaded question for a lefty.

Overton Window with 2025 update:

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In reply to BearlySane88 • 6:58p, 9/11/25
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Way to pivot back there after not getting the response you wanted. Again free speech is free speech but where/what did he actually say about the Pelosi situation? What joke did he make besides the bail comment? Truly asking

Michael Jordan is a dick. Should we murder him?


You're the only one pivoting. Pretending to need smelling salts when some internet randos do something that Charlie Kirk himself has done, but you defend
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 7:21p, 9/11/25
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Absolutely, yet one side seems to be able to be okay with that and one side doesn't.

Agreed.

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In reply to sycasey • 7:54p, 9/11/25
Okay, Elon agrees with me?
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In reply to dajo9 • 7:56p, 9/11/25
Bro what? I asked you to explain, hardly a pivot.

And you didn't answer the question
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 8:13p, 9/11/25
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Okay, Elon agrees with me?

Ah, irony.
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 8:34p, 9/11/25
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Bro what? I asked you to explain, hardly a pivot.

And you didn't answer the question


You asked a stupid question based on nothing anybody said because you had to pivot away from your earlier statement defending Kirk from joking about the Pelosi attacker.
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In reply to DiabloWags • 10:17p, 9/11/25
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BearlySane88 said:
Half of those aren't even violent… regardless I'm not defending political violence from the right or left so I'm not sure your point


Are you sure you went to CAL?
Your reading comprehension doesn't seem to be where it should be given all of the HATE in that graphic above.

Nonetheless, welcome to the OT forum where you've never posted since joining in 2020 until now.
But have now posted 10 consecutive times because of Charlie Kirk.

Interesting.
Do you have "other" screennames that you use?

I'd like to know so I don't get you confused with someone else.




Somebody on this forum is on their FOURTH screenname! Who could that be? (it ain't you or me... also not counting the person who has multiple accounts so they can "star" their own posts)
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In reply to dajo9 • 10:43p, 9/11/25
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sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:
Maybe so, does that make the videos of blue haired libs celebrating what happened any less real?

As I have said many times: it's a big country and a big world. Search for an example of anything and you will find it. That doesn't mean it's a widely-held attitude.

Political leaders on the left certainly have not been celebratory of this at all.


But they'll never address the high profile right wingers, like Charlie Kirk, who celebrated and / or joked about the attack on the Pelosi household.

I don't suppose it would kill you to provide some evidence for your claim.

I mean, I can find plenty of morally questionable or worse things Kirk has said, but of course this is the one thing that you think is really beyond the pale.
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In reply to ACC Bear • 2:35a, 9/12/25
ACC Bear said:
dajo9 said:
sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:
Maybe so, does that make the videos of blue haired libs celebrating what happened any less real?

As I have said many times: it's a big country and a big world. Search for an example of anything and you will find it. That doesn't mean it's a widely-held attitude.

Political leaders on the left certainly have not been celebratory of this at all.


But they'll never address the high profile right wingers, like Charlie Kirk, who celebrated and / or joked about the attack on the Pelosi household.

I don't suppose it would kill you to provide some evidence for your claim.

I mean, I can find plenty of morally questionable or worse things Kirk has said, but of course this is the one thing that you think is really beyond the pale.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/charlie-kirk-once-called-patriot-180221252.html
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In reply to dajo9 • 6:11a, 9/12/25
You need to learn to read
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In reply to dajo9 • 6:14a, 9/12/25
Where in there does he celebrate or call for violence….
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 6:23a, 9/12/25
BearlySane88 said:
Where in there does he celebrate or call for violence….


You are desperate. I have said "joked" 5 times.
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In reply to dajo9 • 7:03a, 9/12/25
Yes and we've discussed this. Jokes aren't violence. It's freedom of speech. And his joke was about bailing the guy out, not calling for more violence. You really need to pay attention to the conversation bro
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7:13a, 9/12/25
Looks like the voice of sanity in the GOP

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In reply to BearlySane88 • 7:23a, 9/12/25
BearlySane88 said:
Yes and we've discussed this. Jokes aren't violence. It's freedom of speech. And his joke was about bailing the guy out, not calling for more violence. You really need to pay attention to the conversation bro


Let's rephrase you

Celebrations aren't violence. It's freedom of speech.

You are busy condemning people who celebrate Kirk being shot and defending Kirk joking about the Pelosi attack. You're an idiot.

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8:24a, 9/12/25
In other news . . .

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In reply to dajo9 • 9:18a, 9/12/25
dajo9 said:
BearlySane88 said:
Yes and we've discussed this. Jokes aren't violence. It's freedom of speech. And his joke was about bailing the guy out, not calling for more violence. You really need to pay attention to the conversation bro


Let's rephrase you

Celebrations aren't violence. It's freedom of speech.

You are busy condemning people who celebrate Kirk being shot and defending Kirk joking about the Pelosi attack. You're an idiot.

I do find it darkly humorous that the same people who used to rail against the left for being censorious and having "words are violence" stances are now doing exactly the same thing when the shoe is on the other foot. Woke Right is a thing now.
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In reply to sycasey • 9:45a, 9/12/25
sycasey said:
dajo9 said:
BearlySane88 said:
Yes and we've discussed this. Jokes aren't violence. It's freedom of speech. And his joke was about bailing the guy out, not calling for more violence. You really need to pay attention to the conversation bro


Let's rephrase you

Celebrations aren't violence. It's freedom of speech.

You are busy condemning people who celebrate Kirk being shot and defending Kirk joking about the Pelosi attack. You're an idiot.

I do find it darkly humorous that the same people who used to rail against the left for being censorious and having "words are violence" stances are now doing exactly the same thing when the shoe is on the other foot. Woke Right is a thing now.


The right got Matthew Dowd cancelled
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10:14a, 9/12/25
Democrat stuffing ballot box, wins by 76 votes.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DNea3g5h_7z/?igsh=ZTg0cnkxYXJ2YmI4
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In reply to dajo9 • 11:02a, 9/12/25
You've entirely missed everything I've said then and I can't help you read better
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In reply to dajo9 • 11:03a, 9/12/25
Social consequences are real. Doesn't mean he didn't have a right to say it, he did. Free speech is free speech regardless of how it makes you feel but that doesn't mean there aren't consequences for things you say. Case in point Dowd
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 11:12a, 9/12/25
BearlySane88 said:
Social consequences are real. Doesn't mean he didn't have a right to say it, he did. Free speech is free speech regardless of how it makes you feel but that doesn't mean there aren't consequences for things you say. Case in point Dowd

Do you feel the same about people who lost jobs in Hollywood because they expressed conservative opinions about trans issues, for example?
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In reply to dajo9 • 11:53a, 9/12/25
dajo9 said:
sycasey said:
dajo9 said:
BearlySane88 said:
Yes and we've discussed this. Jokes aren't violence. It's freedom of speech. And his joke was about bailing the guy out, not calling for more violence. You really need to pay attention to the conversation bro


Let's rephrase you

Celebrations aren't violence. It's freedom of speech.

You are busy condemning people who celebrate Kirk being shot and defending Kirk joking about the Pelosi attack. You're an idiot.

I do find it darkly humorous that the same people who used to rail against the left for being censorious and having "words are violence" stances are now doing exactly the same thing when the shoe is on the other foot. Woke Right is a thing now.


The right got Matthew Dowd cancelled

Matthew Dowd got Matthew Dowd fired.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/who-is-matthew-dowd-what-to-know-about-the-msnbc-host-who-was-fired-for-making-shocking-comments-about-charlie-kirks-tragic-death/ar-AA1Mmzz1
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MSNBC president Rebecca Kutler promptly issued an apology after Dowd's on-air comments.
"During our breaking news coverage of the shooting of Charlie Kirk, Matthew Dowd made comments that were inappropriate, insensitive, and unacceptable," Kutler said in a statement. "There is no place for violence in America, political or otherwise."

Dowd issued his own apology before MSNBC's message via his BlueSky account.
"My thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends of Charlie Kirk. On an earlier appearance on MSNBC I was asked a question on the environment we are in. I apologize for my tone and words," the analyst wrote. "Let me be clear, I in no way intended for my comments to blame Kirk for this horrendous attack. Let us all come together and condemn violence of any kind."

Of course, he doesn't actually believe any of that, as one can see in his Substack post:
https://matthewdowd.substack.com/p/a-time-to-see-with-new-eyes?r=130087&triedRedirect=true
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The Right Wing media mob ginned up, went after me on a plethora of platforms, and MSNBC reacted to that mob. Even though most at MSNBC knew my words were being misconstrued, the timing of my words forgotten (remember I said this before anyone knew Kirk was a target), and that I apologized for any miscommunication on my part, I was terminated by the end of the day.

His words were exactly construed. Charlie Kirk says hateful things (true), so Charlie Kirk got his deserved outcome.

Another ex-Bush Never Trump Republican bites the dust on the Trump Resistance Network.


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In reply to ACC Bear • 12:28p, 9/12/25
When did Dowd say that Kirk "deserved" his fate? Can you post the clip for me?
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In reply to sycasey • 4:16p, 9/12/25
Absolutely
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4:47p, 9/12/25
Good news Friday.

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In reply to sycasey • 5:18p, 9/12/25
sycasey said:
When did Dowd say that Kirk "deserved" his fate? Can you post the clip for me?

Happy to!



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5:26p, 9/12/25
Seven million slaves in Africa today?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DNnyhBethGk/?igsh=MTNiNzA0dmtyaGpiZA==
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In reply to movielover • 5:31p, 9/12/25
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Good news Friday.


YES!
VERY GOOD NEWS!!!

Exclusive-Fed Governor Cook declared her Atlanta property as "vacation home," documents show

LOOKS LIKE SHE'LL BE SUING BILL PULTE AND THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION FOR MILLIONS!

SO MUCH WINNING!!!






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In reply to DiabloWags • 5:36p, 9/12/25
This in no way compares to the potential deportation of 500,000 people
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In reply to ACC Bear • 7:25p, 9/12/25
ACC Bear said:
sycasey said:
When did Dowd say that Kirk "deserved" his fate? Can you post the clip for me?

Happy to!




Where in this does Dowd say Kirk "deserved" it? Offering up possible reasons for the shooting isn't the same thing.

Or are you just extrapolating here?
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