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Treason by the FBI?
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movielover said:

Treason by the FBI?

The only treason ever committed by the FBI was when Comey delivered the office of POTUS to an Enemy of the State with one anal retentive press conference on the eve of the 2016 Election …….and tRump kissed Comey's ear, not his ring, for the favor.


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Gunmen 'in camouflage' open fire on crowd in Moscow concert hall



https://mol.im/a/13228663
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movielover said:

Treason by the FBI?

You? are insane. Hahaha. Truly, you are laughable, a joke. In fact, it's such an absurd idea, I feel sorry for you that you could be so stupid. My laughter fades to compassion.
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14,000 abandoned cars in Oakland. I've seen this problem up close, what a hassle for residents, businesses, communities.

Live auto thefts not stopped (understaffed).

It appears the city is moving slowly to clear their main storage lot, likely overwhelmed by the spike in theft.

Check out this video on ABC OTV: https://abc7news.com/video/embed/?pid=14552267&storyId=14551519&partner=google&source=google&isFeatured=true&_host=abc7news.com#amp=1
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Gunmen 'in camouflage' open fire on crowd in Moscow concert hall



https://mol.im/a/13228663


ISIS-K has been fixated on Russia for the past two years," frequently criticizing President Vladimir V. Putin in its propaganda, said Colin P. Clarke, a counterterrorism analyst at the Soufan Group, a security consulting firm based in New York. "ISIS-K accuses the Kremlin of having Muslim blood in its hands, referencing Moscow's interventions in Afghanistan, Chechnya and Syria."
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/22/world/europe/isis-moscow-attack-concert-hall.html



Islamic State claims responsibility for suicide bombing of Kandahar bank that killed 3 | The Independent


https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/south-asia/kandahar-suicide-attack-death-latest-b2516871.html

*ISIS appears to adhere to a "Kill'em all and let Allah sort them out" philosophy.
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bearister said:

bearister said:

Gunmen 'in camouflage' open fire on crowd in Moscow concert hall



https://mol.im/a/13228663


ISIS-K has been fixated on Russia for the past two years," frequently criticizing President Vladimir V. Putin in its propaganda, said Colin P. Clarke, a counterterrorism analyst at the Soufan Group, a security consulting firm based in New York. "ISIS-K accuses the Kremlin of having Muslim blood in its hands, referencing Moscow's interventions in Afghanistan, Chechnya and Syria."
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/22/world/europe/isis-moscow-attack-concert-hall.html



Islamic State claims responsibility for suicide bombing of Kandahar bank that killed 3 | The Independent


https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/south-asia/kandahar-suicide-attack-death-latest-b2516871.html

*ISIS appears to adhere to a "Kill'em all and let Allah sort them out" philosophy.


Sad and tragic attack. Given how polarized we are and how polarizing Russia has become, I suspect the world will skip past caring for people and directly to blame, including conspiracy theories, etc.

I don't know whether or not ISIS is actually connected (I think they claim responsibility for attacks they have no part in) but it appears that every perp got away so I suspect we may never really confidently know who is responsible.

Hopefully this isn't the start of another round of international terror attacks.
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"A U.S. official tells CBS News the U.S. has intelligence confirming the Islamic State's claims of responsibility, and that they have no reason to doubt those claims. The U.S. official also confirmed that the U.S. provided intelligence to Russia about a potential attack under the intelligence community's Duty to Warn requirement."
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/mass-shooting-music-venue-crocus-city-hall-moscow-picnic-concert/
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bearister said:

"A U.S. official tells CBS News the U.S. has intelligence confirming the Islamic State's claims of responsibility, and that they have no reason to doubt those claims. The U.S. official also confirmed that the U.S. provided intelligence to Russia about a potential attack under the intelligence community's Duty to Warn requirement."
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/mass-shooting-music-venue-crocus-city-hall-moscow-picnic-concert/
Well, that clinches it. It wasn't the Islamic State.
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Crocus City Hall concert hall shooting: ISIS claims attack that left at least 40 dead in Moscow-area music hall | CNN


https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/22/europe/crocus-moscow-shooting/index.html



"ISIL claimed responsibility in a statement posted by its Amaq news agency, saying its fighters had attacked on the outskirts of Moscow, "killing and wounding hundreds and causing great destruction to the place before they withdrew to their bases safely". The statement gave no further detail.

Russia has reported several incidents involving ISIL this month, with authorities saying they killed six alleged members of the group in a shootout in Ingushetia in the restive Caucasus region, and the FSB saying on March 7 it foiled an attack by Islamic State in Khorasan Province (ISKP), an Afghan affiliate of ISIL, on a Moscow synagogue."
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/3/22/gunfire-and-explosion-reported-at-concert-hall-in-russias-moscow

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Plus Darth Nuland's remark a few weeks ago to "expect surprises" in regard to the Russia-Ukraine battle.
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movielover said:




Plus Darth Nuland's remark a few weeks ago to "expect surprises" in regard to the Russia-Ukraine battle.


I think this video is from after the attack (not early March).
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Russia arrests 11 Moscow massacre suspects as they reveal names



https://mol.im/a/13230367

"The so-called Islamic State group (IS) claimed responsibility for the attack in a statement posted on affiliated channels on social media.
A US intelligence official told The Associated Press that American agencies had learned the group's branch in Afghanistan was planning an attack in Moscow and had shared the information with Russian officials.

….Despite warnings of an attack on mass audience venues, she said: 'The only thing that confused me was that there was no security, no reinforcement, no cordon at any entrance.

'It seems like a mass event. But no one at all. Even at the metal detectors there were no guards.'

Putin 'dismissed US warnings about terror attack' three days before


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13229949/Putin-dismissed-warnings-terror-attack-three-days-Moscow-massacre.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

"Earlier in March, the US embassy in Moscow also issued a security alert.

It warned about a potential terror attack in Moscow and urging people to avoid crowds and be aware of their surroundings.

'The Embassy is monitoring reports that extremists have imminent plans to target large gatherings in Moscow, to include concerts, and U.S. citizens should be advised to avoid large gatherings over the next 48 hours,' the March 7 security alert stated.

Concerts were specifically mentioned as a potential target in the US security alert.

It is not clear what prompted the warning or whether it was related to Friday night's attack.

The US gave the intelligence to Russia under the Duty to Warn requirement - an intelligence community requirement to notify US and non-US groups of potential impending threats."



*I have to admit, if our Deep State orchestrated this terror attack, someone is going to have to explain to me the 3 dimensional chess move of tipping off Russian intelligence of an impending attack at a public venue (Russian response was to have virtually no security at the attacked venue, including at the metal detectors….better conspiracy theory is Putin allowed it to happen so he can spin it to justify ending the Ukraine War with a massive attack that may include tactical nukes.
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So wait, what is the argument here? The CIA planned a surprise terrorist attack in Moscow that they . . . warned the Russian government about ahead of time? That doesn't sound like a thing you do if you planned the attack.
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sycasey said:

So wait, what is the argument here? The CIA planned a surprise terrorist attack in Moscow that they . . . warned the Russian government about ahead of time? That doesn't sound like a thing you do if you planned the attack.


Conflicting counter-factual narratives has always been core to the firehose of falsehoods.

Their purpose is to discredit America and support Putin, by any means necessary no matter how idiotic. Sometimes it's more idiotic than others. This appears to be one of those times. The internet is a flutter with the absolute craziest takes imaginable right now.
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sycasey said:

So wait, what is the argument here? The CIA planned a surprise terrorist attack in Moscow that they . . . warned the Russian government about ahead of time? That doesn't sound like a thing you do if you planned the attack.


Hillary wasn't wrong!
She knew before the rest of us did.

Deplorables!
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bearister said:

bearister said:

Gunmen 'in camouflage' open fire on crowd in Moscow concert hall



https://mol.im/a/13228663


ISIS-K has been fixated on Russia for the past two years," frequently criticizing President Vladimir V. Putin in its propaganda, said Colin P. Clarke, a counterterrorism analyst at the Soufan Group, a security consulting firm based in New York. "ISIS-K accuses the Kremlin of having Muslim blood in its hands, referencing Moscow's interventions in Afghanistan, Chechnya and Syria."
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/22/world/europe/isis-moscow-attack-concert-hall.html

Islamic State claims responsibility for suicide bombing of Kandahar bank that killed 3 | The Independent

https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/south-asia/kandahar-suicide-attack-death-latest-b2516871.html

*ISIS appears to adhere to a "Kill'em all and let Allah sort them out" philosophy.

There is a number of glaring inconsistencies that point to the perps not being ISIS fanatics, who have no qualms conducting suicide missions, wearing suicide vests



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ISIS released a photo of the 4 attackers, but blurred their faces.

What's off:
- They hid their faces, why? Proud martyrs don't do that.
- None of the attackers has even once used the word "God" … not during the attack, nor during the interrogation. Usually they scream and say it often.
- ISIS attackers publish videos of them pledging allegiance. None here.
- The attackers went in, shot people and went out in couple of minutes before the special forces arrived. They were not ready to die, but ran quickly. That's not martyrdom and untypical.

-> These guys are not Islamic fundamentalists.
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sycasey said:

So wait, what is the argument here? The CIA planned a surprise terrorist attack in Moscow that they . . . warned the Russian government about ahead of time? That doesn't sound like a thing you do if you planned the attack.

They did not warn the Russian government, they had inside info and details on the upcoming operations ('concert"), but they did not share the info, sources or analyses that led them to precisely pinpoint the planned target, a concert in Moscow.
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Cal88 said:

bearister said:

bearister said:

Gunmen 'in camouflage' open fire on crowd in Moscow concert hall



https://mol.im/a/13228663


ISIS-K has been fixated on Russia for the past two years," frequently criticizing President Vladimir V. Putin in its propaganda, said Colin P. Clarke, a counterterrorism analyst at the Soufan Group, a security consulting firm based in New York. "ISIS-K accuses the Kremlin of having Muslim blood in its hands, referencing Moscow's interventions in Afghanistan, Chechnya and Syria."
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/22/world/europe/isis-moscow-attack-concert-hall.html

Islamic State claims responsibility for suicide bombing of Kandahar bank that killed 3 | The Independent

https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/south-asia/kandahar-suicide-attack-death-latest-b2516871.html

*ISIS appears to adhere to a "Kill'em all and let Allah sort them out" philosophy.

There is a number of glaring inconsistencies that point to the perps not being ISIS fanatics, who have no qualms conducting suicide missions, wearing suicide vests



Quote:

ISIS released a photo of the 4 attackers, but blurred their faces.

What's off:
- They hid their faces, why? Proud martyrs don't do that.
- None of the attackers has even once used the word "God" … not during the attack, nor during the interrogation. Usually they scream and say it often.
- ISIS attackers publish videos of them pledging allegiance. None here.
- The attackers went in, shot people and went out in couple of minutes before the special forces arrived. They were not ready to die, but ran quickly. That's not martyrdom and untypical.

-> These guys are not Islamic fundamentalists.

Can you or your Russian propagandist pal Lord Bebo give us a good reason why ISIS would take credit for a Russian massacre they didn't do? The consequences of taking responsibility are almost entirely negative for them.
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"ISIS-K, made up in part by citizens of Central Asian countries that once belonged to the Soviet Union, has long had Moscow in its crosshairs. In September 2022, the group claimed responsibility for a blast at the Russian Embassy in Kabul that killed six people.

Friday evening's attack carried echoes of Moscow's worst terrorist attack, in 2002, when Chechen separatists took some 850 audience members and theater workers hostage at the city's Dubrovka Theater. The Russian security service's use of gas to end the siege and subsequent storming of the theater left 172 people dead."

https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/death-toll-in-attack-at-russian-concert-hall-tops-90-as-suspects-detained-dbe61022
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Did Russia lie about recent prior ISIL attacks and activity?

Russia has reported several incidents involving ISIL this month, with authorities saying they killed six alleged members of the group in a shootout in Ingushetia in the restive Caucasus region, and the FSB saying on March 7 it foiled an attack by Islamic State in Khorasan Province (ISKP), an Afghan affiliate of ISIL, on a Moscow synagogue."
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/3/22/gunfire-and-explosion-reported-at-concert-hall-in-russias-moscow
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Cal88 said:

sycasey said:

So wait, what is the argument here? The CIA planned a surprise terrorist attack in Moscow that they . . . warned the Russian government about ahead of time? That doesn't sound like a thing you do if you planned the attack.

They did not warn the Russian government, they had inside info and details on the upcoming operations ('concert"), but they did not share the info, sources or analyses that led them to precisely pinpoint the planned target, a concert in Moscow.
Hahahaha, this is the weakest s*** ever. So the US warned Russia that they thought a terrorist attack would be coming at a public event like a concert, but because they did not give them the PRECISE LOCATION that means the US is responsible for the attack.

Do you even hear yourself right now?
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Mexico & LGBTQ.

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The religion of peace.

Islamists just kidnapped 300 kids in Nigeria to be raised under the burkha. They are butchering people there everyday.

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2024/03/nigeria-muslims-kidnap-287-children-ages-5-12-from-their-school
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Senate passes government funding package to avoid government shutdown


https://www.axios.com/2024/03/23/government-shutdown-avoided-senate-passes-funding-budget
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Obama trained ISIS forces.

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sycasey said:

Cal88 said:

sycasey said:

So wait, what is the argument here? The CIA planned a surprise terrorist attack in Moscow that they . . . warned the Russian government about ahead of time? That doesn't sound like a thing you do if you planned the attack.

They did not warn the Russian government, they had inside info and details on the upcoming operations ('concert"), but they did not share the info, sources or analyses that led them to precisely pinpoint the planned target, a concert in Moscow.
Hahahaha, this is the weakest s*** ever. So the US warned Russia that they thought a terrorist attack would be coming at a public event like a concert, but because they did not give them the PRECISE LOCATION that means the US is responsible for the attack.

Do you even hear yourself right now?

It wasn't about giving away a precise location, it was about sharing the details that led them to know that a Moscow concert would be targeted.
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

Cal88 said:

bearister said:

bearister said:

Gunmen 'in camouflage' open fire on crowd in Moscow concert hall



https://mol.im/a/13228663


ISIS-K has been fixated on Russia for the past two years," frequently criticizing President Vladimir V. Putin in its propaganda, said Colin P. Clarke, a counterterrorism analyst at the Soufan Group, a security consulting firm based in New York. "ISIS-K accuses the Kremlin of having Muslim blood in its hands, referencing Moscow's interventions in Afghanistan, Chechnya and Syria."
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/22/world/europe/isis-moscow-attack-concert-hall.html

Islamic State claims responsibility for suicide bombing of Kandahar bank that killed 3 | The Independent

https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/south-asia/kandahar-suicide-attack-death-latest-b2516871.html

*ISIS appears to adhere to a "Kill'em all and let Allah sort them out" philosophy.

There is a number of glaring inconsistencies that point to the perps not being ISIS fanatics, who have no qualms conducting suicide missions, wearing suicide vests



Quote:

ISIS released a photo of the 4 attackers, but blurred their faces.

What's off:
- They hid their faces, why? Proud martyrs don't do that.
- None of the attackers has even once used the word "God" … not during the attack, nor during the interrogation. Usually they scream and say it often.
- ISIS attackers publish videos of them pledging allegiance. None here.
- The attackers went in, shot people and went out in couple of minutes before the special forces arrived. They were not ready to die, but ran quickly. That's not martyrdom and untypical.

-> These guys are not Islamic fundamentalists.

Can you or your Russian propagandist pal Lord Bebo give us a good reason why ISIS would take credit for a Russian massacre they didn't do? The consequences of taking responsibility are almost entirely negative for them.

ISIS jihadi carrying terror operations will fight to the death and have no qualms blowing themselves up rather than be taken alive, because in their twisted ideology they would go straight to heaven for that.

ISIS here looks like a cover for terror operations within Russia conducted by NATO and Ukrainian intel. We know that the latter have recently carried terror bombings in a St Petersburg restaurant and a car bombing that killed Russian journalist Daria Dugina. This is just an escalation in those operations, escalation which was recently announced by Nuland, with the shift towards an insurgency war against Russia.

Colonel Davis, who has personally carried counterinsurgency operations against jihadis in Iraq and Afghanistan confirms this basic inconsistency

https://www.youtube.com/live/vxZxFfe6tbU?si=ymseiz2VpTlRPjfc&t=638
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

Cal88 said:

bearister said:

bearister said:

Gunmen 'in camouflage' open fire on crowd in Moscow concert hall



https://mol.im/a/13228663


ISIS-K has been fixated on Russia for the past two years," frequently criticizing President Vladimir V. Putin in its propaganda, said Colin P. Clarke, a counterterrorism analyst at the Soufan Group, a security consulting firm based in New York. "ISIS-K accuses the Kremlin of having Muslim blood in its hands, referencing Moscow's interventions in Afghanistan, Chechnya and Syria."
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/22/world/europe/isis-moscow-attack-concert-hall.html

Islamic State claims responsibility for suicide bombing of Kandahar bank that killed 3 | The Independent

https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/south-asia/kandahar-suicide-attack-death-latest-b2516871.html

*ISIS appears to adhere to a "Kill'em all and let Allah sort them out" philosophy.

There is a number of glaring inconsistencies that point to the perps not being ISIS fanatics, who have no qualms conducting suicide missions, wearing suicide vests



Quote:

ISIS released a photo of the 4 attackers, but blurred their faces.

What's off:
- They hid their faces, why? Proud martyrs don't do that.
- None of the attackers has even once used the word "God" … not during the attack, nor during the interrogation. Usually they scream and say it often.
- ISIS attackers publish videos of them pledging allegiance. None here.
- The attackers went in, shot people and went out in couple of minutes before the special forces arrived. They were not ready to die, but ran quickly. That's not martyrdom and untypical.

-> These guys are not Islamic fundamentalists.

Can you or your Russian propagandist pal Lord Bebo give us a good reason why ISIS would take credit for a Russian massacre they didn't do? The consequences of taking responsibility are almost entirely negative for them.


$$$, Intel, and other aid from the USA.
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Apparently ISIS is getting sick and tired of others taking credit for their handiwork:

" Islamic State released on Saturday a photo of what it said were the four attackers behind a shooting rampage that killed at least 143 people in a concert hall near Moscow on Friday, the militant group's Amaq news agency said on Telegram.

"The attack comes within the context of a raging war between the Islamic State and countries fighting Islam," Amaq added in a statement citing security sources."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/islamic-state-releases-photo-of-alleged-attackers-in-russia-shooting/ar-BB1kpjry

*Now I suppose there is a 3 dimensional chess move I am overlooking where ISIS, for the right price, will work with our Deep State to ratf@uck Russia into a regime change.


*Bonus trivia fact. Spock's chess opponent was in Easy Rider:

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sycasey said:

Hahahaha, this is the weakest s*** ever. So the US warned Russia that they thought a terrorist attack would be coming at a public event like a concert, but because they did not give them the PRECISE LOCATION that means the US is responsible for the attack.

Do you even hear yourself right now?


Right?

He's a born loser.
But a pure GENIUS on a message board that no one cares about. LOL!
"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
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DiabloWags said:

sycasey said:

Hahahaha, this is the weakest s*** ever. So the US warned Russia that they thought a terrorist attack would be coming at a public event like a concert, but because they did not give them the PRECISE LOCATION that means the US is responsible for the attack.

Do you even hear yourself right now?


Right?

He's a born loser.
But a pure GENIUS on a message board that no one cares about. LOL!



You apparently do care enough to have sent me several DMs gloating about how the Russian economy (according to your excellent sources) has collapsed.
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Just trying to provide you with some healthy perspective.


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movielover said:


Plus Darth Nuland's remark a few weeks ago to "expect surprises" in regard to the Russia-Ukraine battle.


"With this money, Ukraine will also be able to accelerate the asymmetric warfare that has been most effective on the battlefield."

- Victoria Nuland: Two-Year Anniversary of Russia's Full-Scale Invasion of Ukraine
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