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movielover
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Aren't a lot of these changes being driven by DEI / 'equity' - and the bottom 20% who struggle or don't try?

Some schools are reducing advanced math, others not assigning homework, just like removing standardized tests (SAT / ACT).
tequila4kapp
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IMO the softball thing doesn't work because the .450 BA would be (theoretically) the highest mark. If I'm a teacher and my best pupil is getting 45% I've got a different problem.

FWIW I did some digging and the purported school grading system was something a parent reported to Dr. Phil. Who knows if it's true. And the F was below 20%.
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Big C said:

BearlySane88 said:

Big C said:

BearlySane88 said:

Big C said:

movielover said:

San Ramon High Schools are looking to copy Dublin High, and others, in adding "Equity Grading". A missed test equals a 50% score, homework isn't graded, tests can be taken multiple times, etc.

There are misconceptions about "equity grading", but if you understand it, it's probably a good thing. Some possible flaws, of course, just like everything else.

Example of possible flaw: Lazy teacher lets students retake tests and then gives them the exact same test (so students just memorize the answers). I have seen this and it is just cringe-worthy. Good God, at the very minimum, change the order of the questions and the order of the choices (in a multiple choice test). Should be a different test that tests for the same learning objectives.


Please enlighten me about how it is a good thing to not hold students accountable? You don't get do over after do over in your job. Why are we training students to think that's the norm? We wonder why we have these soft Starbucks baristas complaining about a work uniform.

When you speak of not holding students accountable, is it the part about retaking tests?

One could argue that they are still accountable, just by the end of the semester. Or, you could have it where they get somewhat reduced credit for each time they need to retake it.

The concept of being able to retake tests only got to be a thing towards the end of my career. Students would ask if they could retake it and I would say "sure". Rarely did they actually take me up on it. Then, once they found out it was a similar test, but not exactly the same (in other words, they actually needed to know the material instead of memorizing the answers from a friend's test), they never took me up on it. Not one time.

But they could have.


Students in my middle school classes can retake a test if they score below a 75% but they can only receive up to a 75% on the retake. I'm not rewarding a student for not being prepared for an exam the first time. Do I want them to fail, no. Do I want them to learn the material, yes. Do I also want to teach them the lesson that preparation and effort will give them positive results, yes. I give them the opportunity to practice the material and raise their grade but I don't hand them an A on a silver platter.

Late homework is two points off every day it's late until it's down to 50% of the grade. My homework assignments are usually 10 points so even a day late cuts into the grade pretty heavily. My school's policy is that I have to accept any late assignments up to two weeks late so they get a 50% at that point because I could give them lower but again I'm not trying to fail kids and I want them to do the work.

My 6th graders grades are weighted:
60% test, 15% homework, 15% classwork (mostly quizzes), 10% participation

My 7th graders grades are weighted:
65% test, 15% homework, 10% classwork (mostly quizzes), 10% participation

My 8th graders grades are weighted:
70% test, 10% homework, 10% classwork (mostly quizzes), 10% participation


I have thought, from your posts, that you are a good teacher. Your posts on this thread tend to confirm that. Keep up the good work!


I appreciate that, thank you
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DiabloWags said:

AI Bubble Popping.

People have finally figured out that earnings will be inflated from an extended depreciation schedule for servers that don't last more than 18 months to 2 years.

SPX and NAZ didn't make a higher high.
Rolling over.









Nvidia reports Wednesday



Thx for posting!
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DiabloWags said:

SO MUCH WINNING!



And I heard that there is a lawsuit against California redistricting because the new maps were constructed based on Hispanic population, which SCOTUS previously ruled is not an acceptable criteria (race) - new lines by party affiliation is okay, they ruled.

Well, who knows whether that challenge will succeed or not.

But Newsom said if TX doesn't draw new lines, CA will stop its effort. So, if TX is denied and CA is not, will Newsom stop its effort?

Lots of unknowns here.
But good to follow it all.
sycasey
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concordtom said:

DiabloWags said:

SO MUCH WINNING!



And I heard that there is a lawsuit against California redistricting because the new maps were constructed based on Hispanic population, which SCOTUS previously ruled is not an acceptable criteria (race) - new lines by party affiliation is okay, they ruled.

Well, who knows whether that challenge will succeed or not.

But Newsom said if TX doesn't draw new lines, CA will stop its effort. So, if TX is denied and CA is not, will Newsom stop its effort?

Lots of unknowns here.
But good to follow it all.

Technically, "Newsom" can't do anything on his own. The people voted on a redistricting referendum (Prop 50) that won, and the language in that referendum specifically notes that Texas must do a legislative fix in order for it to automatically reverse itself. Being blocked by the courts (for now) isn't enough. To reverse it absent that you'd need another public referendum.
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SFCityBear said:

DiabloWags said:

SO MUCH WINNING!



This just shows how much damage the Democrats can do, even when they don't have full control of the government. For these judges to be fair-minded, they should now bar California from using its new US House map in the 2026 midterms.

Do you believe that the redistricting process that texas enacted without any consideration for the voters in the state was "fair-minded"?
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concordtom said:

DiabloWags said:

AI Bubble Popping.

People have finally figured out that earnings will be inflated from an extended depreciation schedule for servers that don't last more than 18 months to 2 years.

SPX and NAZ didn't make a higher high.
Rolling over.









Nvidia reports Wednesday



Thx for posting!

Nvidia up nearly 2% today, gaining close to 100 million in market cap.
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Big C said:

tequila4kapp said:

movielover said:

San Ramon High Schools are looking to copy Dublin High, and others, in adding "Equity Grading". A missed test equals a 50% score, homework isn't graded, tests can be taken multiple times, etc.

I can't remember the details but there was news a little while back about some school district in CA adopting a grading scale where A's went all the way down to like 80%; F's started at like 50%. Cray cray.

I am a recently retired high school teacher and my kids are currently in 8th and 11th grade.

Grading by strict percentages (no matter what they are) can be problematic.

If one of your softball players is batting .450, that's probably good, right? Well, 45% is actually an "F" by many measures.

If an airline pilot lands his plane safely 95% of the time, he gets an "A", but I'm not going near his flight.

These are extreme examples to prove a point, but you get the idea. More to the point, I can make up a multiple choice test to get most any scores I want by manipulating the "distractors" (wrong answers).

Society wants percentage-based grading because it seems objective. It can be, in theory, but oftentimes it is not.



https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/81358/replies/2589206

In a post above I mentioned grade inflation.
I then mentioned the problem with pushing kids to perform.

Two different issues, but as a teacher and a parent I'd love to hear your thoughts on both.

Is grade inflation real? What percentage of kids get (got) A's in your classes, school? What should the (a) curve look like?

If one school were to implement a strict curve and others don't, that F's up the first school's kids college application competitiveness. So then it should be mandated statewide?

When I graduated HS, I understood that 3 kids had straight A's all 4 years. But now it may be as high as 10%, a teacher estimated to me. They award two valedictorians:

One by the AP adjusted GPA method, the other by the non-adjusted method so that kids who take welding or FFA can be honored - not just STEM kids. In either case, A+'s matter, A's won't cut it.
My second daughter had more A+'s than regular A's and was a runner up. Imagine that.

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movielover said:

San Ramon High Schools are looking to copy Dublin High, and others, in adding "Equity Grading". A missed test equals a 50% score, homework isn't graded, tests can be taken multiple times, etc.


Dublin has been the fastest growing City in California and the 12th fastest growing City of 50,000 or more in the United States. 30,000 in 2000. 46,000 in 2010. 72,500 in 2020.

Are you aware of the demographics?

53.5% Asian per the 2020 census

Emerald High is brand new.
Just opened in the Fall of 2024 at a cost of $374 million.
Massive tax base in Dublin.

New $374 million high school campus opening in Dublin | KTVU FOX 2

concordtom
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Wow!
Dublin.
tequila4kapp
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concordtom said:


In a post above I mentioned grade inflation.
I then mentioned the problem with pushing kids to perform.

Two different issues, but as a teacher and a parent I'd love to hear your thoughts on both.

Is grade inflation real? What percentage of kids get (got) A's in your classes, school? What should the (a) curve look like?


I appreciate that your question was teed up for HS but bigger picture data point on grade inflation...fully 60% of all grades at Harvard are A's. SIXTY PERCENT!
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concordtom said:

Wow!
Dublin.


The Irish have always been breeders
concordtom
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sycasey said:

concordtom said:

DiabloWags said:

SO MUCH WINNING!



And I heard that there is a lawsuit against California redistricting because the new maps were constructed based on Hispanic population, which SCOTUS previously ruled is not an acceptable criteria (race) - new lines by party affiliation is okay, they ruled.

Well, who knows whether that challenge will succeed or not.

But Newsom said if TX doesn't draw new lines, CA will stop its effort. So, if TX is denied and CA is not, will Newsom stop its effort?

Lots of unknowns here.
But good to follow it all.

Technically, "Newsom" can't do anything on his own. The people voted on a redistricting referendum (Prop 50) that won, and the language in that referendum specifically notes that Texas must do a legislative fix in order for it to automatically reverse itself. Being blocked by the courts (for now) isn't enough. To reverse it absent that you'd need another public referendum.

Newsom verbally announced in the beginning that California would pull it off if Texas did.
Is that now no longer true?
dajo9
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concordtom said:

sycasey said:

concordtom said:

DiabloWags said:

SO MUCH WINNING!



And I heard that there is a lawsuit against California redistricting because the new maps were constructed based on Hispanic population, which SCOTUS previously ruled is not an acceptable criteria (race) - new lines by party affiliation is okay, they ruled.

Well, who knows whether that challenge will succeed or not.

But Newsom said if TX doesn't draw new lines, CA will stop its effort. So, if TX is denied and CA is not, will Newsom stop its effort?

Lots of unknowns here.
But good to follow it all.

Technically, "Newsom" can't do anything on his own. The people voted on a redistricting referendum (Prop 50) that won, and the language in that referendum specifically notes that Texas must do a legislative fix in order for it to automatically reverse itself. Being blocked by the courts (for now) isn't enough. To reverse it absent that you'd need another public referendum.

Newsom verbally announced in the beginning that California would pull it off if Texas did.
Is that now no longer true?


No, the die is cast. The people have voted.
sycasey
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concordtom said:

sycasey said:

concordtom said:

DiabloWags said:

SO MUCH WINNING!



And I heard that there is a lawsuit against California redistricting because the new maps were constructed based on Hispanic population, which SCOTUS previously ruled is not an acceptable criteria (race) - new lines by party affiliation is okay, they ruled.

Well, who knows whether that challenge will succeed or not.

But Newsom said if TX doesn't draw new lines, CA will stop its effort. So, if TX is denied and CA is not, will Newsom stop its effort?

Lots of unknowns here.
But good to follow it all.

Technically, "Newsom" can't do anything on his own. The people voted on a redistricting referendum (Prop 50) that won, and the language in that referendum specifically notes that Texas must do a legislative fix in order for it to automatically reverse itself. Being blocked by the courts (for now) isn't enough. To reverse it absent that you'd need another public referendum.

Newsom verbally announced in the beginning that California would pull it off if Texas did.
Is that now no longer true?

It is as I described: the Texas legislature needs to reverse its maps, not just have them blocked by courts.
DiabloWags
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concordtom said:

When I graduated HS, I understood that 3 kids had straight A's all 4 years. But now it may be as high as 10%, a teacher estimated to me. They award two valedictorians:




At Las Lomas High in Walnut Creek I had all A's for 4 years except for two B's.

One from a vindictive music teacher when I was first trumpet and gave up on him.
The other in Chemistry which I didn't have a clue about.

Took AP English, but never took the exam. Our teachers said they didn't think they could pass it.
Wound up in Bonehead English at Cal. They didn't like my misplaced modifiers.
Got A's in Rhetoric 1A and 1B.

My SAT score sucked.


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sycasey said:

concordtom said:

sycasey said:

concordtom said:

DiabloWags said:

SO MUCH WINNING!



And I heard that there is a lawsuit against California redistricting because the new maps were constructed based on Hispanic population, which SCOTUS previously ruled is not an acceptable criteria (race) - new lines by party affiliation is okay, they ruled.

Well, who knows whether that challenge will succeed or not.

But Newsom said if TX doesn't draw new lines, CA will stop its effort. So, if TX is denied and CA is not, will Newsom stop its effort?

Lots of unknowns here.
But good to follow it all.

Technically, "Newsom" can't do anything on his own. The people voted on a redistricting referendum (Prop 50) that won, and the language in that referendum specifically notes that Texas must do a legislative fix in order for it to automatically reverse itself. Being blocked by the courts (for now) isn't enough. To reverse it absent that you'd need another public referendum.

Newsom verbally announced in the beginning that California would pull it off if Texas did.
Is that now no longer true?

It is as I described: the Texas legislature needs to reverse its maps, not just have them blocked by courts.


I heard all that language was removed from the Proposition. Doesn't matter what Texas does at this point.
concordtom
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dajo9 said:

concordtom said:

Wow!
Dublin.


The Irish have always been breeders

Flat. (Enough)
Freeway crossroads
BART
Relative proximity to Silicon Valley
New construction
Visas


(The most common is the H-1B visa, which allows employers to temporarily hire skilled workers in fields like technology, engineering, and science. Other options include the O-1 visa for individuals with "extraordinary ability")
DiabloWags
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concordtom said:

dajo9 said:

concordtom said:

Wow!
Dublin.


The Irish have always been breeders

Flat. (Enough)
Freeway crossroads
BART
Relative proximity to Silicon Valley
New construction



53% Asian.
All new construction.
Proximity to Silicon Valley
sycasey
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dajo9 said:

sycasey said:

concordtom said:

sycasey said:

concordtom said:

DiabloWags said:

SO MUCH WINNING!



And I heard that there is a lawsuit against California redistricting because the new maps were constructed based on Hispanic population, which SCOTUS previously ruled is not an acceptable criteria (race) - new lines by party affiliation is okay, they ruled.

Well, who knows whether that challenge will succeed or not.

But Newsom said if TX doesn't draw new lines, CA will stop its effort. So, if TX is denied and CA is not, will Newsom stop its effort?

Lots of unknowns here.
But good to follow it all.

Technically, "Newsom" can't do anything on his own. The people voted on a redistricting referendum (Prop 50) that won, and the language in that referendum specifically notes that Texas must do a legislative fix in order for it to automatically reverse itself. Being blocked by the courts (for now) isn't enough. To reverse it absent that you'd need another public referendum.

Newsom verbally announced in the beginning that California would pull it off if Texas did.
Is that now no longer true?

It is as I described: the Texas legislature needs to reverse its maps, not just have them blocked by courts.


I heard all that language was removed from the Proposition. Doesn't matter what Texas does at this point.

Oh hmm, I think you're right.



Honestly? I don't like that. That was shady on the part of the legislature.
DiabloWags
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sycasey said:

Honestly? I don't like that. That was shady on the part of the legislature.


Given the number of Trump judges that have been Federally appointed, they clearly didn't consider there was a high possibility of the Texas redistricting to be overturned. - - - Probably not so shady.

Oh wait, federal U.S. District Court Judge Jeffrey Brown was appointed by Trump.
Judge Guaderrama was appointed by Obama and dissenting Judge Smith appointed by Ronald Reagan

Heading to the Supreme Court.

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DiabloWags said:

sycasey said:

Honestly? I don't like that. That was shady on the part of the legislature.


Given the number of Trump judges that have been Federally appointed, they clearly didn't consider there was a high possibility of the Texas redistricting to be overturned. - - - Probably not so shady.

I mean, the good news on the CA gerrymander is that it still has a time limit, only until the next census (2030).

It was still shady. Newsom sold the prop on the idea that it came with a trigger and could be reversed if Texas reversed theirs, then the trigger was removed at the last second. Don't like that.
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oski003 said:

concordtom said:

DiabloWags said:

AI Bubble Popping.

People have finally figured out that earnings will be inflated from an extended depreciation schedule for servers that don't last more than 18 months to 2 years.

SPX and NAZ didn't make a higher high.
Rolling over.









Nvidia reports Wednesday



Thx for posting!

Nvidia up nearly 2% today, gaining close to 100 million in market cap.


EXAS halted trading +24.8% this morning gaining nearly $3.3 Billion in market cap.

concordtom
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sycasey said:

dajo9 said:

sycasey said:

concordtom said:

sycasey said:

concordtom said:

DiabloWags said:

SO MUCH WINNING!



And I heard that there is a lawsuit against California redistricting because the new maps were constructed based on Hispanic population, which SCOTUS previously ruled is not an acceptable criteria (race) - new lines by party affiliation is okay, they ruled.

Well, who knows whether that challenge will succeed or not.

But Newsom said if TX doesn't draw new lines, CA will stop its effort. So, if TX is denied and CA is not, will Newsom stop its effort?

Lots of unknowns here.
But good to follow it all.

Technically, "Newsom" can't do anything on his own. The people voted on a redistricting referendum (Prop 50) that won, and the language in that referendum specifically notes that Texas must do a legislative fix in order for it to automatically reverse itself. Being blocked by the courts (for now) isn't enough. To reverse it absent that you'd need another public referendum.

Newsom verbally announced in the beginning that California would pull it off if Texas did.
Is that now no longer true?

It is as I described: the Texas legislature needs to reverse its maps, not just have them blocked by courts.


I heard all that language was removed from the Proposition. Doesn't matter what Texas does at this point.

Oh hmm, I think you're right.



Honestly? I don't like that. That was shady on the part of the legislature.


I don't mind so much because the trumpublicans are so horrible.
Still, gerrymandering is very wrong and this needs to stop and be reset to glob shapes, not spider legs.

I was thinking yesterday we should have a third Constitutional Convention.

Get rid of the duopoly of two parties.
Reverse Citizens vs United.
Ranked choice voting.

Lots of other things.

I'll make a thread because ChatGPT tossed out a ton of issues.
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Rumors of an Abbott takeover...
dajo9
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Democrats lose so much because of all the Surrendur Democrats

It is not feasible to have California election law determined by Texas outcomes. If Texas changes something at the last minute then CA plans are invalidated? Be serious.

If Texas changed plans before CA voted then Team Newsom could have pulled Prop 50 (subject to those laws). Now CA has voted. Stand strong and stop being whimpering Surrendur Democrats.
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tequila4kapp said:

Rumors of an Abbott takeover...


Yes.
Ka-ching!

Commentary regarding M&A activity on Abbott's Q3 earnings call again piqued interest, with Abbott's CEO noting some "very good opportunities out there" for M&A activity. On the surface, there is indeed strategic rationale to the acquisition for Abbott.



https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-11-19/abbott-weighs-takeover-of-cancer-test-maker-exact-sciences?accessToken=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJzb3VyY2UiOiJTdWJzY3JpYmVyR2lmdGVkQXJ0aWNsZSIsImlhdCI6MTc2MzU3ODg5NSwiZXhwIjoxNzY0MTgzNjk1LCJhcnRpY2xlSWQiOiJTWk00WldHUTFZVkcwMCIsImJjb25uZWN0SWQiOiI0QTE0NjgyRTVEQjI0RDgyOEVGOTIxMzA1M0U4NzhDMiJ9.qSxxBWSdfAAsoidRWDtCGiVNaJg29ZMsB8M7iuYLPbQ
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dajo9 said:

Democrats lose so much because of all the Surrendur Democrats

It is not feasible to have California election law determined by Texas outcomes. If Texas changes something at the last minute then CA plans are invalidated? Be serious.

If Texas changed plans before CA voted then Team Newsom could have pulled Prop 50 (subject to those laws). Now CA has voted. Stand strong and stop being whimpering Surrendur Democrats.


It would make more sense to you if you were living in California and saw an ad nearly every TV break saying that Prop 50 is a temporary measure needed to counter Texas redistricting. Obama told me so!
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oski003 said:

dajo9 said:

Democrats lose so much because of all the Surrendur Democrats

It is not feasible to have California election law determined by Texas outcomes. If Texas changes something at the last minute then CA plans are invalidated? Be serious.

If Texas changed plans before CA voted then Team Newsom could have pulled Prop 50 (subject to those laws). Now CA has voted. Stand strong and stop being whimpering Surrendur Democrats.


It would make more sense to you if you were living in California and saw an ad nearly every TV break saying that Prop 50 is a temporary measure needed to counter Texas redistricting. Obama told me so!


Wrong again.

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sycasey said:

dajo9 said:

sycasey said:

concordtom said:

sycasey said:

concordtom said:

DiabloWags said:

SO MUCH WINNING!



And I heard that there is a lawsuit against California redistricting because the new maps were constructed based on Hispanic population, which SCOTUS previously ruled is not an acceptable criteria (race) - new lines by party affiliation is okay, they ruled.

Well, who knows whether that challenge will succeed or not.

But Newsom said if TX doesn't draw new lines, CA will stop its effort. So, if TX is denied and CA is not, will Newsom stop its effort?

Lots of unknowns here.
But good to follow it all.

Technically, "Newsom" can't do anything on his own. The people voted on a redistricting referendum (Prop 50) that won, and the language in that referendum specifically notes that Texas must do a legislative fix in order for it to automatically reverse itself. Being blocked by the courts (for now) isn't enough. To reverse it absent that you'd need another public referendum.

Newsom verbally announced in the beginning that California would pull it off if Texas did.
Is that now no longer true?

It is as I described: the Texas legislature needs to reverse its maps, not just have them blocked by courts.


I heard all that language was removed from the Proposition. Doesn't matter what Texas does at this point.

Oh hmm, I think you're right.



Honestly? I don't like that. That was shady on the part of the legislature.

movielover
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But our maps were drawn using race as a primary factor, which is illegal.
oski003
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DiabloWags said:

oski003 said:

dajo9 said:

Democrats lose so much because of all the Surrendur Democrats

It is not feasible to have California election law determined by Texas outcomes. If Texas changes something at the last minute then CA plans are invalidated? Be serious.

If Texas changed plans before CA voted then Team Newsom could have pulled Prop 50 (subject to those laws). Now CA has voted. Stand strong and stop being whimpering Surrendur Democrats.


It would make more sense to you if you were living in California and saw an ad nearly every TV break saying that Prop 50 is a temporary measure needed to counter Texas redistricting. Obama told me so!


Wrong again.




Thanks for confirming what I said about the Election Rigging Response Act.

Here is a central paragraph from the California Democratic Party:

"Proposition 50 is a direct response to a Republican power grab orchestrated by President Trump and state leaders in Texas, who redrew Congressional district lines to gain five more seats in the U.S. House of Representatives.

Proposition 50 proposes new lines for many of California's 52 congressional districts, which would negate the five Republican seats drawn by Texas. Under the proposed lines, Democrats could gain up to 5 seats in the U.S. House of Representatives. With a majority in the House, Democrats can fight back against Trump and Republicans' MAGA agenda. "

https://cadem.org/yes-on-proposition-50-faq/

Hopefully, the above helps you understand things that you simply don't understand.
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dajo9 said:

Democrats lose so much because of all the Surrendur Democrats

It is not feasible to have California election law determined by Texas outcomes. If Texas changes something at the last minute then CA plans are invalidated? Be serious.

If Texas changed plans before CA voted then Team Newsom could have pulled Prop 50 (subject to those laws). Now CA has voted. Stand strong and stop being whimpering Surrendur Democrats.

Yeah, but it was sold to voters as a law with a trigger that would reverse if Texas reversed. If it turns out it's not that way then at least some subset of voters will feel misled. This kind of switcheroo loses trust.
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