As the partial government shutdown continues in its 3rd week, the Food and Drug Administration has suspended all routine inspections of domestic food-processing facilities, the Washington Post reports. Axios
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Trump is using the government as a bargaining chip like a dictator would
Robert Reich
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jan/10/trump-government-shutdown-democracy-power-dictatorship?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
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I would suggest that anyone who is not a regressive, ultra-right winger; needs to step back and realize that they have been played by Trump and the GOP partisans.bearister said:
Trump is using the government as a bargaining chip like a dictator would
Robert Reich
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jan/10/trump-government-shutdown-democracy-power-dictatorship?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
The GOP deficit hawks scare their followers with the national debt. Somehow they attack benefits for the common man and the deficit grows. Then they cry national security and the deficit grows and then they say cut taxes and the deficit grows. The National Debt is the ******* child of the GOP.
Even more the growing deficit is justification to cut spending on the social welfare of the country, stop research in planning for climate change, reduce retirement benefits and bleed extra money out of retirees and those needing health care. And instead of the Corps of Engineers building levees and causeways to protect citizens next to waterways; building bridges over wide rivers and freeways; that infrastructure funding will build a border wall to nowhere. For decades the GOP has strategically misspent trillions in a well planned strategy to force democrats to accept cuts in social programs as part of balancing the budget. And today one of the 'sane' GOP senators supported the notion of taking disaster relief funds from ungrateful states like California to built the wall. It's all part of a long term GOP plan to financially punish their opponents.
Later this year, in mid-April, some of us single seniors will feel the sting of a tax increase, sold to a bunch of stooges as a tax cut. And even worse my adjusted income, now greatly increased by lost Federal deductions will also translate into higher state income taxes. The state didn't even have to change tax rates to increase state taxes.
Maybe the Republicans could explain why they did nothing when they still controlled Congress. I suspect that many of them saw a wall in the middle of nowhere as a waste of Federal Funds and they are glad to see Democrats taking flack for trying to be fiscally responsible deficit hawks...B.A. Bearacus said:
Republicans, can I get an amen? If only...
Also I don't see these Republicans commenting on the plight of million of former government workers whose jobs were outsourced and who won't get paid for their lost paychecks during the Gov't shutdown. The contractor's have already been paid, but their employees who are prevented from working, won't get a dime.
sp4149 said:Maybe the Republicans could explain why they did nothing when they still controlled Congress. I suspect that many of them saw a wall in the middle of nowhere as a waste of Federal Funds and they are glad to see Democrats taking flack for trying to be fiscally responsible deficit hawks...B.A. Bearacus said:
Republicans, can I get an amen? If only...
The shutdown literally started when Republicans still controlled the House.
I appreciate your points. You are on target.sp4149 said:I would suggest that anyone who is not a regressive, ultra-right winger; needs to step back and realize that they have been played by Trump and the GOP partisans.bearister said:
Trump is using the government as a bargaining chip like a dictator would
Robert Reich
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jan/10/trump-government-shutdown-democracy-power-dictatorship?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
The GOP deficit hawks scare their followers with the national debt. Somehow they attack benefits for the common man and the deficit grows. Then they cry national security and the deficit grows and then they say cut taxes and the deficit grows. The National Debt is the ******* child of the GOP.
Even more the growing deficit is justification to cut spending on the social welfare of the country, stop research in planning for climate change, reduce retirement benefits and bleed extra money out of retirees and those needing health care. And instead of the Corps of Engineers building levees and causeways to protect citizens next to waterways; building bridges over wide rivers and freeways; that infrastructure funding will build a border wall to nowhere. For decades the GOP has strategically misspent trillions in a well planned strategy to force democrats to accept cuts in social programs as part of balancing the budget. And today one of the 'sane' GOP senators supported the notion of taking disaster relief funds from ungrateful states like California to built the wall. It's all part of a long term GOP plan to financially punish their opponents.
Later this year, in mid-April, some of us single seniors will feel the sting of a tax increase, sold to a bunch of stooges as a tax cut. And even worse my adjusted income, now greatly increased by lost Federal deductions will also translate into higher state income taxes. The state didn't even have to change tax rates to increase state taxes.
Re deficit hawks: The National Debt is now $22T, which is over $2T more than 2 years ago. The "tax cut" was a push back to the wealthy at the expense of future generations.
Re bashing California, I will again point out that California pays more money into the Federal Coffers than any other state (not surprising due to our size). It also pays more than it receives back. There are about 15 states in that category, and while we are not highest per capita in this regard, we are in this group and NOT in the group of states which accept more back in federally funding than they pay in.
So, the California bashing is misinformation designed to reduce the political influence of our elected officials when the speak on national matters.
Whenever I hear White Supremacy or talk of Western Civilization, I think of people like this: contemptible for the views and not exactly shining examples of the supremacy.going4roses said:
And the "coming to take our jobs" is almost self-damning indictment of their own lives. Where are you in your life, education, and craft that illegal immigrants would be hear to steal your job? I suspect that you are not a CEO. You could just as well be saying that these white American teenagers who are getting older are "coming to get my job."
I have a family member who is sadly very racist, and the thing I always say to them is why is the starting point of your opinions always predicated on the supposition that you have more in common with a person of the same shade of skin then any number of other factors: geography, wealth, education, faith, etc. Built into their positions is that this upper middle class white guy from California, has more in common and wants to protect the "culture" of an uneducated, red neck in Kentucky, then he does with the upper middle class hispanic family that lives across the street from him. It's stunning how prejudice clouds the brain and is such a powerful emotion (and knowing what I know about the person it is all projection and self-loathing, and denial that they themselves are part hispanic and second generation immigrant).
What needs to be protected and revered is culture. Full stop. That means celebrating and preserving the arts and the greatest expressions of intelligence, skill, craft, wisdom, love, and history by all humans, not reducing "culture" to pigment and snapshot weapons of hate.
Again, what needs to be preserved is a culture of love for one another despite, and precisely because of, our differences.
"The Bear will not quilt, the Bear will not dye!"
I came up with this conclusion after talking with my wife, telling her about a number of developments:B.A. Bearacus said:
The need for Social Conformity exceeds Informed Rationaltiy.
I kinda like that.
It's my explanation for why Republicans stand by the President, based in Stanley Milgram's Conformity to Authority.
Omg, that mega Mosque spoof by sacha Cohen was HILARIOUS.
I watched 3 times!
I watched 3 times!
With regard to the tRump Shutdown, Lara Trump characterized workers as going through "a little bit of pain." But she said the pain is "for the future of our country and their children and their grandchildren." She insisted that "generations after them will thank them for their sacrifice right now." She went on to recount the pain she herself had to endure after a monthly distribution check from tRump University was late arriving and she had to cancel her pedicure, massage, body parts bleaching and empathy class appointments.
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he went on to recount the pain she herself had to endure after a monthly distribution check from tRump University was late arriving and she had to cancel her pedicure, massage and empathy class appointments.
Is that part really true?
Is that part really true?
oski003 said:
he went on to recount the pain she herself had to endure after a monthly distribution check from tRump University was late arriving and she had to cancel her pedicure, massage and empathy class appointments.
Is that part really true?
..as fake as her b@@bs and teeth.
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When we moved by the Government during BRAC in 1999. We had to take a bridge loan in order to buy a house in San Diego while we were moving out of our house in Castro Valley. It was not a quick process and it wasn't cheap and it wasn't part of our PCS (change of duty station) orders. Ross is clueless about the economic realities of citizens who are not millionaires. He probably recommended payday loans but an aide reminded him that such loans required actual paychecks...sycasey said:
Let them eat cake.
Why are Democrats so fixated on this lib notion of getting paid so you can feed your children and not lose the roof over your head? Focus on the real problem (right now on Fox News):
Be best.concordtom said:I appreciate your points. You are on target.sp4149 said:I would suggest that anyone who is not a regressive, ultra-right winger; needs to step back and realize that they have been played by Trump and the GOP partisans.bearister said:
Trump is using the government as a bargaining chip like a dictator would
Robert Reich
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jan/10/trump-government-shutdown-democracy-power-dictatorship?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
The GOP deficit hawks scare their followers with the national debt. Somehow they attack benefits for the common man and the deficit grows. Then they cry national security and the deficit grows and then they say cut taxes and the deficit grows. The National Debt is the ******* child of the GOP.
Even more the growing deficit is justification to cut spending on the social welfare of the country, stop research in planning for climate change, reduce retirement benefits and bleed extra money out of retirees and those needing health care. And instead of the Corps of Engineers building levees and causeways to protect citizens next to waterways; building bridges over wide rivers and freeways; that infrastructure funding will build a border wall to nowhere. For decades the GOP has strategically misspent trillions in a well planned strategy to force democrats to accept cuts in social programs as part of balancing the budget. And today one of the 'sane' GOP senators supported the notion of taking disaster relief funds from ungrateful states like California to built the wall. It's all part of a long term GOP plan to financially punish their opponents.
Later this year, in mid-April, some of us single seniors will feel the sting of a tax increase, sold to a bunch of stooges as a tax cut. And even worse my adjusted income, now greatly increased by lost Federal deductions will also translate into higher state income taxes. The state didn't even have to change tax rates to increase state taxes.
Re deficit hawks: The National Debt is now $22T, which is over $2T more than 2 years ago. The "tax cut" was a push back to the wealthy at the expense of future generations.
Re bashing California, I will again point out that California pays more money into the Federal Coffers than any other state (not surprising due to our size). It also pays more than it receives back. There are about 15 states in that category, and while we are not highest per capita in this regard, we are in this group and NOT in the group of states which accept more back in federally funding than they pay in.
So, the California bashing is misinformation designed to reduce the political influence of our elected officials when the speak on national matters.
https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/
She's bold.bearister said:
With regard to the tRump Shutdown, Lara Trump characterized workers as going through "a little bit of pain." But she said the pain is "for the future of our country and their children and their grandchildren." She insisted that "generations after them will thank them for their sacrifice right now." She went on to recount the pain she herself had to endure after a monthly distribution check from tRump University was late arriving and she had to cancel her pedicure, massage, body parts bleaching and empathy class appointments.
Were I questioning her, I would have followed up with a question along the lines of:
"So, since you are so committed to this plan of sacrifice for the greater good, would you be willing to also put your money where your mouth is? That is, how much are YOU going to contribute to the fund to support this collective effort?"
She could donate money either directly to the wall construction fund or to the unpaid workers fund.
Maybe you can do the same?concordtom said:She's bold.bearister said:
With regard to the tRump Shutdown, Lara Trump characterized workers as going through "a little bit of pain." But she said the pain is "for the future of our country and their children and their grandchildren." She insisted that "generations after them will thank them for their sacrifice right now." She went on to recount the pain she herself had to endure after a monthly distribution check from tRump University was late arriving and she had to cancel her pedicure, massage, body parts bleaching and empathy class appointments.
Were I questioning her, I would have followed up with a question along the lines of:
"So, since you are so committed to this plan of sacrifice for the greater good, would you be willing to also put your money where your mouth is? That is, how much are YOU going to contribute to the fund to support this collective effort?"
She could donate money either directly to the wall construction fund or to the unpaid workers fund.
No. I do not believe in the narrative that we should collectively sacrifice for Trump's Wall. I do not think we should have a wall at all. And I do not believe the govt should be shut down, thus no need for any sacrifice here.oski003 said:Maybe you can do the same?concordtom said:She's bold.bearister said:
With regard to the tRump Shutdown, Lara Trump characterized workers as going through "a little bit of pain." But she said the pain is "for the future of our country and their children and their grandchildren." She insisted that "generations after them will thank them for their sacrifice right now." She went on to recount the pain she herself had to endure after a monthly distribution check from tRump University was late arriving and she had to cancel her pedicure, massage, body parts bleaching and empathy class appointments.
Were I questioning her, I would have followed up with a question along the lines of:
"So, since you are so committed to this plan of sacrifice for the greater good, would you be willing to also put your money where your mouth is? That is, how much are YOU going to contribute to the fund to support this collective effort?"
She could donate money either directly to the wall construction fund or to the unpaid workers fund.
Your post is nonsensical.
I'd like the money we would spend on a wall (which would provide zero economic benefit) to be spent on something that makes people's lives better.concordtom said:No. I do not believe in the narrative that we should collectively sacrifice for Trump's Wall. I do not think we should have a wall at all. And I do not believe the govt should be shut down, thus no need for any sacrifice here.oski003 said:Maybe you can do the same?concordtom said:She's bold.bearister said:
With regard to the tRump Shutdown, Lara Trump characterized workers as going through "a little bit of pain." But she said the pain is "for the future of our country and their children and their grandchildren." She insisted that "generations after them will thank them for their sacrifice right now." She went on to recount the pain she herself had to endure after a monthly distribution check from tRump University was late arriving and she had to cancel her pedicure, massage, body parts bleaching and empathy class appointments.
Were I questioning her, I would have followed up with a question along the lines of:
"So, since you are so committed to this plan of sacrifice for the greater good, would you be willing to also put your money where your mouth is? That is, how much are YOU going to contribute to the fund to support this collective effort?"
She could donate money either directly to the wall construction fund or to the unpaid workers fund.
Your post is nonsensical.
EVERYONE.
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This whole thing shows how exceeding poor The Grump is as a real estate developer . None of The Grump's prototype walls met design specs. One common failure was their weakness to flowing water. So his first project is to build 150 miles along the Rio Grande. The Grump and The Trumpettes keep saying we have a national security crisis at the border in San Diego county; so his first action is to build 'the wall' in Texas. Obviously a poor real estate developer who knows nothing about location, location, location...Yogi Bear said:I'd like the money we would spend on a wall (which would provide zero economic benefit) to be spent on something that makes people's lives better.concordtom said:No. I do not believe in the narrative that we should collectively sacrifice for Trump's Wall. I do not think we should have a wall at all. And I do not believe the govt should be shut down, thus no need for any sacrifice here.oski003 said:Maybe you can do the same?concordtom said:She's bold.bearister said:
With regard to the tRump Shutdown, Lara Trump characterized workers as going through "a little bit of pain." ...
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She could donate money either directly to the wall construction fund or to the unpaid workers fund.
Your post is nonsensical.
IRS agents not going back to work. TSA calling in sick. Finally some action that will lead the public to believe the government is not functioning well.