If we were to rank candidates by depth of government experience, what would that look like?

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I hope someday Presidential politics involves actually looking at policies

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I hear what you're saying, but it might be like asking straight dudes to be attracted to women based on their personality alone. Looks (with at least a dash of charisma) almost always factors into who is ultimately our president. Can anyone remember the last time we had a president who looked like an orange baboon? But in all seriousness, he is found to be an attractive guy by Republicans (don't make me find that image of that woman with the down-pointing arrow on her t-shirt).

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dajo9 said:

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I hope someday Presidential politics involves actually looking at policies

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I hear what you're saying, but it might be like asking straight dudes to be attracted to women based on their personality alone. Looks (with at least a dash of charisma) almost always factors into who is ultimately our president. Can anyone remember the last time we had a president who looked like an orange baboon?

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The sad truth is that smarts, policy, and ability to govern take a backseat to likability and relatability aka the 'someone like me' factor. Personally, I want someone smarter and more ambitious than me as president.

Can't leave out looks (or maybe you're rolling that up with likability). There is no possible way in the United States, no matter how brilliant, likable, relate-able, and charming... that the man born Ric Ocasek could have become president.

Kamala is a Hastings College of the Law grad....

Go Sharks!

B.A. Bearacus said:

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Can't leave out looks (or maybe you're rolling that up with likability). There is no possible way in the United States, no matter how brilliant, likable, relate-able, and charming... that the man born Ric Ocasek could have become president.

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Well, he did manage to convince

to marry him. That's gotta count for something...

B.A. Bearacus said:

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dajo9 said:

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I hope someday Presidential politics involves actually looking at policies

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I hear what you're saying, but it might be like asking straight dudes to be attracted to women based on their personality alone. Looks (with at least a dash of charisma) almost always factors into who is ultimately our president. Can anyone remember the last time we had a president who looked like an orange baboon? But in all seriousness, he is found to be an attractive guy by Republicans (don't make me find that image of that woman with the down-pointing arrow on her t-shirt).

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Also, in a Presidential primary the policies are often pretty similar (well, these days anyway . . . it was different 20-30 years ago).

Yea, I should have said 'the idealized version of someone like me'.

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Can't leave out looks (or maybe you're rolling that up with likability). There is no possible way in the United States, no matter how brilliant, likable, relate-able, and charming... that the man born Ric Ocasek could have become president.

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You know they said the same thing about Trump, not about his looks but his personality and public persona.

I think Ric could win in the right situation...but I get your general point. Just has to kill the mullet and dress unlike a rocker with nothing to lose.

p.s. yeah...weird looking rockers are the exception to looks.

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Yeah people are pissed off at that guy. First thing I thought when I read Schultz was running... The U.S.A. does NOT need a Chief Executive Barista. For fcck sake, he sells coffee and has zero government experience. He deserves the mockery. Hell, the guy can't even win his own state or Seattle...not after selling the Sonics who moved to OKC. He is HATED in WA.

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B.A. Bearacus said:

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Yeah people are pissed off at that guy. First thing I thought when I read Schultz was running... The U.S.A. does NOT need a Chief Executive Barista. For fcck sake, he sells coffee and has zero government experience. He deserves the mockery. Hell, the guy can't even win his own state or Seattle...not after selling the Sonics who moved to OKC. He is HATED in WA.

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B.A. Bearacus said:

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Can't leave out looks (or maybe you're rolling that up with likability). There is no possible way in the United States, no matter how brilliant, likable, relate-able, and charming... that the man born Ric Ocasek could have become president.

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You know they said the same thing about Trump, not about his looks but his personality and public persona.

I think Ric could win in the right situation...but I get your general point. Just has to kill the mullet and dress unlike a rocker with nothing to lose.

p.s. yeah...weird looking rockers are the exception to looks.

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Trump is a good looking man, a sex symbol.

That would be past tense. Today, nope.

AB, he looks bad enough already without Photoshop. The second one has to be Photoshopped.

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I was actually thinking that if he does decide to run, America needs to organize a nationwide boycott of Starbucks until he drops out of the race.

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AB, he looks bad enough already without Photoshop. The second one has to be Photoshopped.

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Nope I think that's all him. He's a fat, old dude so a TREMENDOUS, YUUGE turkey neck par for the course.

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I was actually thinking that if he does decide to run, America needs to organize a nationwide boycott of Starbucks until he drops out of the race.

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It's already a given.

DEMOCRATS THREATEN TO BOYCOTT STARBUCKS IF FORMER CEO HOWARD SCHULTZ RUNS IN 2020 ELECTION

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Nope I think that's all him. He's a fat, old dude so a TREMENDOUS, YUUGE turkey neck par for the course.

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He's obese, but he can't quite be mistaken for Rocky Dennis ("Mask") just yet. See this link to see the original versus the Photoshop.

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dajo9 said:

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I hope someday Presidential politics involves actually looking at policies

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I hear what you're saying, but it might be like asking straight dudes to be attracted to women based on their personality alone. Looks (with at least a dash of charisma) almost always factors into who is ultimately our president. Can anyone remember the last time we had a president who looked like an orange baboon? But in all seriousness, he is found to be an attractive guy by Republicans (don't make me find that image of that woman with the down-pointing arrow on her t-shirt).

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Does that mean I can vote for Carol Doda respectfully now?

Aw man!
Total bummer!


Legendary San Francisco Burlesque Performer Carol Doda Dies At 78

November 11, 2015



SAN FRANCISCO (CBS SF) Legendary San Francisco burlesque performer Carol Doda has died. She was 78.
Doda died Monday afternoon at St. Luke's Hospital in San Francisco after a long stay.

Doda was born in Sonoma County and grew up in San Francisco. She got her start performing topless at the Condor Club in North Beach in the 60s. Her enhanced, voluptuous 44 bustline was iconic and sometimes referred to as the 'Twin Peaks of San Francisco.'
Her legendary act was go-go dancing on a grand piano as it descended from the ceiling using hydraulic motors. Within a decade, she eschewed her topless bikini altogether and performed nude.
Doda would later work as a local Bay Area television host, and owned a lingerie boutique in San Francisco.
A billboard bearing her larger-than-life image still looms above the Condor Club on Broadway.

Friend and fellow musician Dick Winn remembers the actress, dancer, musician and entrepreneur well.
"Not only the entertaining part: singer, dancer, comedian just the way she cared about people. She was just very kind. I don't know anybody who would say a bad thing about her," he told KPIX 5's Joe Vasquez.
Winn said Doda's kidneys were in bad shape.
"She went to sleep in the afternoon Monday and never woke up," Winn said. "I hated to see her go."
Friends of Doda are planning a memorial for her at Tupelo on Grant Avenue, on November 22.

Another Bear said:

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B.A. Bearacus said:

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AB, he looks bad enough already without Photoshop. The second one has to be Photoshopped.

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Nope I think that's all him. He's a fat, old dude so a TREMENDOUS, YUUGE turkey neck par for the course.

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Hey now, there's actually nothing wrong (outside of possible health-obesity issues, which actually affect a majority of 70 year old Americans) with a Turkey neck.

There is, however something very wrong with simply being a huge turkey.

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AB, he looks bad enough already without Photoshop. The second one has to be Photoshopped.

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No way. I call FAKE NEWS!!!

Another Bear said:

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ducky23 said:

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I was actually thinking that if he does decide to run, America needs to organize a nationwide boycott of Starbucks until he drops out of the race.

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It's already a given.

DEMOCRATS THREATEN TO BOYCOTT STARBUCKS IF FORMER CEO HOWARD SCHULTZ RUNS IN 2020 ELECTION

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Run as a democrat or a republican, fine.
Run as an independent when you know that a divide will throw the election to the House, which has a lead in State Delegates for Trump? = Destroy Starbucks!!!!

Trump must go away, above all else.
I'm hoping we can boot him from Washington ASAP. If he ends up in Hell, that'd be even better!

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Trump is a good looking man, a sex symbol.

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Such musculature.

I'm reminded of Dan Akroyd in Trading Places when Jamie Lee inspects his hands to see that he REALLY IS a soft office f--k who has never worked a day in his life.




Yep, that's our Donald!

A disgusting pig!

B.A. Bearacus said:

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Exactly.
Run as a republican.
Run as a democrat.
But don't run as an independent.

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Aw man!
Total bummer!


Legendary San Francisco Burlesque Performer Carol Doda Dies At 78

November 11, 2015



SAN FRANCISCO (CBS SF) Legendary San Francisco burlesque performer Carol Doda has died. She was 78.
Doda died Monday afternoon at St. Luke's Hospital in San Francisco after a long stay.

Doda was born in Sonoma County and grew up in San Francisco. She got her start performing topless at the Condor Club in North Beach in the 60s. Her enhanced, voluptuous 44 bustline was iconic and sometimes referred to as the 'Twin Peaks of San Francisco.'
Her legendary act was go-go dancing on a grand piano as it descended from the ceiling using hydraulic motors. Within a decade, she eschewed her topless bikini altogether and performed nude.
Doda would later work as a local Bay Area television host, and owned a lingerie boutique in San Francisco.
A billboard bearing her larger-than-life image still looms above the Condor Club on Broadway.

Friend and fellow musician Dick Winn remembers the actress, dancer, musician and entrepreneur well.
"Not only the entertaining part: singer, dancer, comedian just the way she cared about people. She was just very kind. I don't know anybody who would say a bad thing about her," he told KPIX 5's Joe Vasquez.
Winn said Doda's kidneys were in bad shape.
"She went to sleep in the afternoon Monday and never woke up," Winn said. "I hated to see her go."
Friends of Doda are planning a memorial for her at Tupelo on Grant Avenue, on November 22.

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tRump as a young man had a very creepy unsavory look about him like the guy who played Scorpio in Dirty Harry:



...which means if tRump ever gets impeached we get to see this face:

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Excuse me, but do you have an electric drill I could borrow real quick?

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My fear is she's is going to experience the Obama treatment by the GOP and it will get nasty once again.

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I guarantee this will happen no matter who the Democrats nominate.

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Yeah, I think there is simply a huge percentage of the country that is more racists in their bones (perhaps xenophobic is a more accurate term?) than I'd have imagined.

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I'm sure there are quite a few xenophobes in the U.S., but I'd not be surprised if their xenophobia was grounded in racism. Even aside from the xenophobes, there are plenty of racists in the U.S. They've become much more bold and open about exhibiting their racism in the past three years. Even before then, however, there were plenty of racists in the U.S. You just happened to be fortunate enough not to be affected by them directly.

It's a sad situation.

Calaveras County where you live, right Tom? Big Trump county. Racists and xenophobic central. How are you surviving- are there swatstikas on the " I'm with her" lawn signs?

I have zero recollection of Booker as a football player for Furd.

"Cory Booker arrived at Stanford as a heralded football recruit. By the end, he was pushed off the team. How a rare setback shaped the potential presidential candidate."