Case closed...okay, not so much.

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Case closed...okay, not so much.

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Did Rand Paul really say that?

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I'm just curious, how many Federal Prosecutors are there?

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Case closed...okay, not so much.

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Did Rand Paul really say that?

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Apparently he did. Brazen but standard tin foil hat RWNJ stuff.

Of course another GOP senator (Burr) issued the subpoena. I think the GOP are trying to scapegoat Deranged Jr., aka Fredo of the Trump Crime Family, as way of gaining some cover in the 2020 election. The GOP have to start reeling in the Dotard or 2020 will be extra crappy.

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I'm just curious, how many Federal Prosecutors are there?

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I think around 25,000 currently.

Ok, here we go. We're at the "essentially" no obstruction of justice phase of the serpent's slithering.

Fast track...

White House Asked McGahn to Declare Trump Never Obstructed Justice - The New York Times


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/10/us/politics/mcgahn-trump-obstruction.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/10/us/politics/mcgahn-trump-obstruction.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share

ZZZZZ. cover up op, Barr?, collusion?, it's the middle of May, 2019. Reflect and you'll find it is you who colluded with the devil and hardened your hearts such that you don't feel guilty anymore even though you are condemned to a lifetime in hell if you don't seek forgiveness. The window of opportunity is closing.

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ZZZZZ. cover up op, Barr?, collusion?, it's the middle of May, 2019. Reflect and you'll find it is you who colluded with the devil and hardened your hearts such that you don't feel guilty anymore even though you are condemned to a lifetime in hell if you don't seek forgiveness. The window of opportunity is closing.

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I like this. I hope it is 100% sincere. That makes it better.

Flynn detailed attempts to obstruct Russia probe: U.S. court filing

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1SM2TI

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Max Boot is a bathroom idiot; a Trump hater from the top of his head to the bottom of his toes.

600,000 dead Iraqis salute Max Boot's judgment on hoaxes.

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Max Boot is a bathroom idiot; a Trump hater from the top of his head to the bottom of his toes.

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The first statement may be true. The second does not help prove it (if anything, the opposite).

Whatever it means to be a bathroom idiot (I think it must mean intelligent conservatives who care about the country and who said enough is enough), here's another one:

Chris Wallace on Fox News exclusive interview with AG Barr: 'He clearly is protecting this president'

Fox News Sunday" anchor Chris Wallace weighed in on the Fox News exclusive interview with Attorney General William Barr, saying Friday that Barr "clearly is protecting this president and advocating his point of view."

Speaking on "America's Newsroom," Wallace said, "What really comes across to me most of all is that for two years, Donald Trump sat there and said I don't have an attorney general, I don't have somebody out there looking for and protecting my interests. He clearly has that now with Bill Barr."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chris-wallace-on-fox-news-exclusive-interview-with-ag-barr-he-clearly-is-protecting-this-president

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/fox-news-poll-people-trust-mueller-more-than-trump-bill-barr-2019-5

Everyone, including Republicans, read this right now.

I offer these conclusions only after having read Mueller's redacted report carefully and completely, having read or watched pertinent statements and testimony, and having discussed this matter with my staff, who thoroughly reviewed materials and provided me with further analysis.

In comparing Barr's principal conclusions, congressional testimony, and other statements to Mueller's report, it is clear that Barr intended to mislead the public about Special Counsel Robert Mueller's analysis and findings.

Barr's misrepresentations are significant but often subtle, frequently taking the form of sleight-of-hand qualifications or logical fallacies, which he hopes people will not notice.

Under our Constitution, the president "shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors." While "high Crimes and Misdemeanors" is not defined, the context implies conduct that violates the public trust.

Contrary to Barr's portrayal, Mueller's report reveals that President Trump engaged in specific actions and a pattern of behavior that meet the threshold for impeachment.

In fact, Mueller's report identifies multiple examples of conduct satisfying all the elements of obstruction of justice, and undoubtedly any person who is not the president of the United States would be indicted based on such evidence.

Impeachment, which is a special form of indictment, does not even require probable cause that a crime (e.g., obstruction of justice) has been committed; it simply requires a finding that an official has engaged in careless, abusive, corrupt, or otherwise dishonorable conduct.

While impeachment should be undertaken only in extraordinary circumstances, the risk we face in an environment of extreme partisanship is not that Congress will employ it as a remedy too often but rather that Congress will employ it so rarely that it cannot deter misconduct.

Our system of checks and balances relies on each branch's jealously guarding its powers and upholding its duties under our Constitution. When loyalty to a political party or to an individual trumps loyalty to the Constitution, the Rule of Lawthe foundation of libertycrumbles.

We've witnessed members of Congress from both parties shift their views 180 degreeson the importance of character, on the principles of obstruction of justicedepending on whether they're discussing Bill Clinton or Donald Trump.

Few members of Congress even read Mueller's report; their minds were made up based on partisan affiliationand it showed, with representatives and senators from both parties issuing definitive statements on the 448-page report's conclusions within just hours of its release.

America's institutions depend on officials to uphold both the rules and spirit of our constitutional system even when to do so is personally inconvenient or yields a politically unfavorable outcome. Our Constitution is brilliant and awesome; it deserves a government to match it.

In fact, Mueller's report identifies multiple examples of conduct satisfying all the elements of obstruction of justice, and undoubtedly any person who is not the president of the United States would be indicted based on such evidence.
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does he spell these out? that would be helpful.

Any Republican congressman who has read the entire report definitely should have his motives questioned. If only there were some way to read the same report that this congressman has analyzed in order to challenge what must be a politically motivated statement.

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In fact, Mueller's report identifies multiple examples of conduct satisfying all the elements of obstruction of justice, and undoubtedly any person who is not the president of the United States would be indicted based on such evidence.
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"Mueller laid out at least a half-dozen crimes of obstruction committed by Trump -- from asking former Deputy National Security Adviser K.T. McFarland to write an untruthful letter about the reason for Flynn's chat with Kislyak, to asking Corey Lewandowski and then-former White House Counse lDon McGahn to fire Mueller and McGahn to lie about it, to firing Comey to impede the FBI's investigations, to dangling a pardon in front of Michael Cohen to stay silent, to ordering his aides to hide and delete records." Judge Napolitano

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/judge-andrew-napolitano-did-president-trump-obstruct-justice

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In fact, Mueller's report identifies multiple examples of conduct satisfying all the elements of obstruction of justice, and undoubtedly any person who is not the president of the United States would be indicted based on such evidence.
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"Mueller laid out at least a half-dozen crimes of obstruction committed by Trump -- from asking former Deputy National Security Adviser K.T. McFarland to write an untruthful letter about the reason for Flynn's chat with Kislyak, to asking Corey Lewandowski and then-former White House Counse lDon McGahn to fire Mueller and McGahn to lie about it, to firing Comey to impede the FBI's investigations, to dangling a pardon in front of Michael Cohen to stay silent, to ordering his aides to hide and delete records." Judge Napolitano

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/judge-andrew-napolitano-did-president-trump-obstruct-justice

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IOIYAR

Any Republicans or Republican personas finished doing the mental gymnastics required to come out the other end to discount Amash as a bathroom idiot, leftist, etc? Or are all y'all just completely ignoring this because of what AunBear89 described very concisely?

Just total BS. Some how the Trump Crime Family thinks this is like a real estate transaction and they can low ball people into submission and eventually stiff them.

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Just total BS. Some how the Trump Crime Family thinks this is like a real estate transaction and they can low ball people into submission and eventually stiff them.

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What it tells me is that Barr has an aperture that is starting to slowly contract.

Even Cal people(?) on this board buy his crap. I almost can't believe what has happened to this country. We've a lot of morons.

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Even Cal people(?) on this board buy his crap. I almost can't believe what has happened to this country. We've a lot of morons.

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Surprising isn't it. Not so much the political but rather the lack of BS sniffing ability aka the lack of critical thinking. Critical thinking paired with looking at the facts and available information is a trademark of a Cal education. It's like some people have lost their minds.

Oh my...Adam Schiff is getting chippy...burns two idiots at once.

Schiff on Barr: He's Rudy Giuliani without 'all the good looks and general likability'

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Attorney General Bill Barr should resign over his conduct before Congress, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff said Wednesday, calling the attorney general a "personal attorney" for President Donald Trump.

The California Democrat said he hesitates to "call Bill Barr the Attorney General."

I think Bill Barr has all the duplicity of Rudy Giuliani without all the good looks and general likability of Rudy Guliani," Schiff said during the Center for American Progress 2019 Ideas Conference Wednesday. "The most dangerous thing, I think, that Bill Barr has done is basically say that a president under investigation can make the investigation go away if he thinks its unfair which, by the way, means the other 14 investigations firmed up through other offices he can also make go away."

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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/22/adam-schiff-william-barr-good-looks-1340061

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So, Barr and Trump want a verbal agreement from Dems to back off?
Wow.
Trump Republicans should know that commitments can very easily be broken.

Go ahead, tell them whatever it takes, then double cross them like they do every single day.

Fu**ing liars!!!