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I do not necessarily like Hillary, but since Leon Panetta respects her, that is good enough for me. IMHO, Hillary lost in 2016 because of Russian interference, the Electoral College, and Bernie Sanders and his supporters. If he doesn't like her returning the favor, tough titty.

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And Comey pontificating about her case in complete disregard for FBI precedent and policy as well as Comey's fear of the anti-Hillary FBI leakers - whom we still don't know anything about and which is being covered up.

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I never understood the love on this board for Comey. The guy that put in place all the major surveillance programs post-911, the guy who laid a public turd on both Clinton and Trump for his own benefit, the guy who engaged in a lot Hoover like behavior. My general praise for the guy was he was great a giving testimony. But, beyond that I took a lot of guff saying this guy was a bad player. So I'm going to act like the ultimate 10 year old - told you so.....

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Well, I mean, you didn't tell me so, but maybe others. The thing about Comey, lifelong Republican, is he did his job as FBI Director poorly and lost control of the organization and had bad judgment that always seemed to put himself in front of cameras. But. . . in a contest of Comey vs. Trump, Comey is by far the better and more honest public servant.

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Well I did post so a lot- too lazy to go back and find it. Maybe others gave me crap and you didn't. Trump is a an awfully low standard.

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I remember you posting this a lot - when Comey was in dispute with Trump (not so much when Comey was in dispute with Hillary). I'm sure we all hashed this out already before. Comey can be both a bad FBI Director who did irreparable harm to Hillary's campaign AND a far more credible public servant than Trump.

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1) Voter suppression in North Carolina and Wisconsin*;
2) Russian hacking*;
3) FBI Director Comey's willful and intentional release of documents meant to suggest criminal wrongdoing by the Democratic nominee a week before the presidential election;
4) The use of Wikileaks as an agent for a hostile foreign power to meddle with our election;
5) A systemic failure by the news media to serve as editorial gatekeepers, differentiate false equivalencies, or to report on falsehoods propagated about the Democratic nominee.*
6) Men hate powerful women
6a) Women hate powerful women
7) Bernie Sanders spent the tail-end of that campaign impugning Clinton's integrity and questioning her qualifications to lead. Despite having begrudgingly supported Clinton following his primary defeat, he gloated on the talk shows with a "told-ya-so" (btw, isn't this called politics).
8) The liberal progressive voter base supporting Sanders began to regurgitate right wing talking points and lies used to impugn Clinton's integrity for decades
9) She should have been more personable (citing Hilbot)
10) Her staff let her down, not scheduling her in the states that went narrowly to Trump
10a) The Electoral College
11) The polls lied (the narrative is Trump voters lied to pollsters and more Clinton supporters would felt the urge to vote if they knew how close the election was).

These are all excuses made by Clinton why she lost. Only one is her own doing arguably (number 9).No fault has ever lied at the feet of Hillary Clinton or the Clintons, in countless years of controversies, scandals and the like, or for losing against Donald Trump, a horrible politician. Everything always is a historic injustice that, if allowed to continue, only hurts us as a nation and democracy. Look in the mirror woman.

Her repeated excuse making allows a shift in conversation away from crucial issues, smothers important Democratic candidates, and moves the discourse towards petty partisan squabbles and the unproductive blame game.

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I think this is you trying to shift blame. The reason Trump won is because too many people, like you, voted for him.

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and my California vote mattered how? I'm not the one still making all the excuses.

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That post was:
1. Excuse
2. Followed by claim of non-excuse

As an additional note to wifeisafurd category 5)

Chris Matthews and Chuck Todd continuously bashed Hillary in the run up to the Election. You can rest assured that after the failed game show host won that they disclaimed any responsibility.

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1) Voter suppression in North Carolina and Wisconsin*;
2) Russian hacking*;
3) FBI Director Comey's willful and intentional release of documents meant to suggest criminal wrongdoing by the Democratic nominee a week before the presidential election;
4) The use of Wikileaks as an agent for a hostile foreign power to meddle with our election;
5) A systemic failure by the news media to serve as editorial gatekeepers, differentiate false equivalencies, or to report on falsehoods propagated about the Democratic nominee.*
6) Men hate powerful women
6a) Women hate powerful women
7) Bernie Sanders spent the tail-end of that campaign impugning Clinton's integrity and questioning her qualifications to lead. Despite having begrudgingly supported Clinton following his primary defeat, he gloated on the talk shows with a "told-ya-so" (btw, isn't this called politics).
8) The liberal progressive voter base supporting Sanders began to regurgitate right wing talking points and lies used to impugn Clinton's integrity for decades
9) She should have been more personable (citing Hilbot)
10) Her staff let her down, not scheduling her in the states that went narrowly to Trump
10a) The Electoral College
11) The polls lied (the narrative is Trump voters lied to pollsters and more Clinton supporters would felt the urge to vote if they knew how close the election was).

These are all excuses made by Clinton why she lost. Only one is her own doing arguably (number 9).No fault has ever lied at the feet of Hillary Clinton or the Clintons, in countless years of controversies, scandals and the like, or for losing against Donald Trump, a horrible politician. Everything always is a historic injustice that, if allowed to continue, only hurts us as a nation and democracy. Look in the mirror woman.

Her repeated excuse making allows a shift in conversation away from crucial issues, smothers important Democratic candidates, and moves the discourse towards petty partisan squabbles and the unproductive blame game.

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I think this is you trying to shift blame. The reason Trump won is because too many people, like you, voted for him.

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and my California vote mattered how? I'm not the one still making all the excuses.

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That post was:
1. Excuse
2. Followed by claim of non-excuse

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NO excuses for me. I voiced for who I voted for. But I didn't open my mouth in public, Hilary did, and she picked the timing. In no way is this about me. Go back and look at the posts, its people commenting on Clinton's comments, not mine. If anyone is trying to shift the conversation it is you my friend.

Let's say it wasn't Hillary, her baggage, or her policies that caused her to lose the election. Let's say it's the excuses she continues to make blaming everyone else So what? The election is over. She is not running for office. Yes, as an experienced public official her views on policy matters to some. But she doesn't discuss policy. Instead, she took the opportunity to trash Sanders and defend her relationship with Harvey Weinstein. All she does is make divisive comments, she hurts specific candidates, in much the same way she claims Bernie hurt her, she gets people focused on her on a week in which the focus s/b on the Dem's impeachment case. She remains with high negatives, is unhelpful to the Democratic Party at this juncturea selfish pose for someone whose approval rating hasn't budged above 38 percent since the election, and who remains a ready target for Trump to use to whip up his base. Even to the extent you seem a fan, she lost what people perceive as the unloseable election, and there has to be an element of Clinton fatigue in this for everyone, including her minimal fan base, as she keeps making devisive, angry comments. Look at that list of excuses - a good portion of that is aimed at what might be considered her people (news media, women, liberal progressives, her own staff).

There are plenty of hurt feelings to go around. But to the extent Sanders is a valid candidate, she should keep her resentment to herself. It is not like Sanders is going around complaining how Clinton stacked the deck to steal the Democratic nomination from him.

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Well, I mean, you didn't tell me so, but maybe others. The thing about Comey, lifelong Republican, is he did his job as FBI Director poorly and lost control of the organization and had bad judgment that always seemed to put himself in front of cameras. But. . . in a contest of Comey vs. Trump, Comey is by far the better and more honest public servant.

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I would say that Comey is an example of what happens when you delude yourself into believing that you are a disinterested paragon of morality/virtue who is acting in the public interest when in reality you are just ignoring your biases and suffer from hubris.

Trump is under many delusions, but pretending to be moral or virtuous isn't one of them. That's a big part of his appeal to deplorables. But when you combine that with the fact that he only acts out of what he believes is his self-interest, he is functionally no different to a tyrant or mobster and the results have been predictable. He's like a mobster who runs a very loose ship. In some ways we might be better off for a while with a competent mobster like Putin - although hopefully Trump's incompetence leads to his downfall.

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I do not necessarily like Hillary, but since Leon Panetta respects her, that is good enough for me. IMHO, Hillary lost in 2016 because of Russian interference, the Electoral College, and Bernie Sanders and his supporters. If he doesn't like her returning the favor, tough titty.

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And Comey pontificating about her case in complete disregard for FBI precedent and policy as well as Comey's fear of the anti-Hillary FBI leakers - whom we still don't know anything about and which is being covered up.

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I never understood the love on this board for Comey. The guy that put in place all the major surveillance programs post-911, the guy who laid a public turd on both Clinton and Trump for his own benefit, the guy who engaged in a lot Hoover like behavior. My general praise for the guy was he was great a giving testimony. But, beyond that I took a lot of guff saying this guy was a bad player. So I'm going to act like the ultimate 10 year old - told you so.....

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Well, I mean, you didn't tell me so, but maybe others. The thing about Comey, lifelong Republican, is he did his job as FBI Director poorly and lost control of the organization and had bad judgment that always seemed to put himself in front of cameras. But. . . in a contest of Comey vs. Trump, Comey is by far the better and more honest public servant.

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Well I did post so a lot- too lazy to go back and find it. Maybe others gave me crap and you didn't. Trump is a an awfully low standard.

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I remember you posting this a lot - when Comey was in dispute with Trump (not so much when Comey was in dispute with Hillary). I'm sure we all hashed this out already before. Comey can be both a bad FBI Director who did irreparable harm to Hillary's campaign AND a far more credible public servant than Trump.

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I never understood under what authority an FBI Director can comment on an ongoing investigation, and said so several times. I still don't understand. The Justice Department said he no authority, and yet he made a pubic disclosure on Clinton anyway. As for being a credible public servant, if Trump is your expectation/stadard, we are doomed.

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1) Voter suppression in North Carolina and Wisconsin*;
2) Russian hacking*;
3) FBI Director Comey's willful and intentional release of documents meant to suggest criminal wrongdoing by the Democratic nominee a week before the presidential election;
4) The use of Wikileaks as an agent for a hostile foreign power to meddle with our election;
5) A systemic failure by the news media to serve as editorial gatekeepers, differentiate false equivalencies, or to report on falsehoods propagated about the Democratic nominee.*
6) Men hate powerful women
6a) Women hate powerful women
7) Bernie Sanders spent the tail-end of that campaign impugning Clinton's integrity and questioning her qualifications to lead. Despite having begrudgingly supported Clinton following his primary defeat, he gloated on the talk shows with a "told-ya-so" (btw, isn't this called politics).
8) The liberal progressive voter base supporting Sanders began to regurgitate right wing talking points and lies used to impugn Clinton's integrity for decades
9) She should have been more personable (citing Hilbot)
10) Her staff let her down, not scheduling her in the states that went narrowly to Trump
10a) The Electoral College
11) The polls lied (the narrative is Trump voters lied to pollsters and more Clinton supporters would felt the urge to vote if they knew how close the election was).

These are all excuses made by Clinton why she lost. Only one is her own doing arguably (number 9).No fault has ever lied at the feet of Hillary Clinton or the Clintons, in countless years of controversies, scandals and the like, or for losing against Donald Trump, a horrible politician. Everything always is a historic injustice that, if allowed to continue, only hurts us as a nation and democracy. Look in the mirror woman.

Her repeated excuse making allows a shift in conversation away from crucial issues, smothers important Democratic candidates, and moves the discourse towards petty partisan squabbles and the unproductive blame game.

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I think this is you trying to shift blame. The reason Trump won is because too many people, like you, voted for him.

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and my California vote mattered how? I'm not the one still making all the excuses.

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That post was:
1. Excuse
2. Followed by claim of non-excuse

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NO excuses for me. I voiced for who I voted for. But I didn't open my mouth in public, Hilary did, and she picked the timing. In no way is this about me. Go back and look at the posts, its people commenting on Clinton's comments, not mine. If anyone is trying to shift the conversation it is you my friend.

Let's say it wasn't Hillary, her baggage, or her policies that caused her to lose the election. Let's say it's the excuses she continues to make blaming everyone else So what? The election is over. She is not running for office. Yes, as an experienced public official her views on policy matters to some. But she doesn't discuss policy. Instead, she took the opportunity to trash Sanders and defend her relationship with Harvey Weinstein. All she does is make divisive comments, she hurts specific candidates, in much the same way she claims Bernie hurt her, she gets people focused on her on a week in which the focus s/b on the Dem's impeachment case. She remains with high negatives, is unhelpful to the Democratic Party at this juncturea selfish pose for someone whose approval rating hasn't budged above 38 percent since the election, and who remains a ready target for Trump to use to whip up his base. Even to the extent you seem a fan, she lost what people perceive as the unloseable election, and there has to be an element of Clinton fatigue in this for everyone, including her minimal fan base, as she keeps making devisive, angry comments. Look at that list of excuses - a good portion of that is aimed at what might be considered her people (news media, women, liberal progressives, her own staff).

There are plenty of hurt feelings to go around. But to the extent Sanders is a valid candidate, she should keep her resentment to herself. It is not like Sanders is going around complaining how Clinton stacked the deck to steal the Democratic nomination from him.

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Got to agree with all that.

It goes back to my comment about Hillary Clinton's political instincts being bad. But it's maybe more complicated than that. I think the "big picture" stuff she tends to be pretty good on. She's good at drafting policy. I might not agree with everything, but she has a good handle on it. During her campaigns she tends to perform well in the big events: the convention went great, and she performed well in the debates. But it's everywhere else you see these constant small, stupid unforced errors that combine to hurt her chances. Stuff like trying to hide a run-of-the-mill illness and then letting people speculate that she was somehow at death's door. Stuff like the "deplorables" comment that was just allowed to fester without further clarification. Stuff like adding DNC people to her campaign staff who had pissed off Bernie supporters for their roles in the primary campaign (Debbie Wasserman-Schultz). All of that just doesn't need to happen.

You saw similar problems when she lost to Obama: in the big picture her candidacy looked strong, but her campaign seemed totally flustered when they realized Obama's team had a much better plan for winning delegates in the caucus states and then they complained about the rules after the fact. These comments about Sanders seem like more of that. Weird pettiness and defensiveness when you don't need it. The cannier way to try stopping Sanders is to endorse someone else, say nothing about him in public, and then work behind the scenes with other Democratic influencers to do the same. This kind of public distraction only serves to hurt the causes Hillary claims to support.

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I do not necessarily like Hillary, but since Leon Panetta respects her, that is good enough for me. IMHO, Hillary lost in 2016 because of Russian interference, the Electoral College, and Bernie Sanders and his supporters. If he doesn't like her returning the favor, tough titty.

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And Comey pontificating about her case in complete disregard for FBI precedent and policy as well as Comey's fear of the anti-Hillary FBI leakers - whom we still don't know anything about and which is being covered up.

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I never understood the love on this board for Comey. The guy that put in place all the major surveillance programs post-911, the guy who laid a public turd on both Clinton and Trump for his own benefit, the guy who engaged in a lot Hoover like behavior. My general praise for the guy was he was great a giving testimony. But, beyond that I took a lot of guff saying this guy was a bad player. So I'm going to act like the ultimate 10 year old - told you so.....

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Well, I mean, you didn't tell me so, but maybe others. The thing about Comey, lifelong Republican, is he did his job as FBI Director poorly and lost control of the organization and had bad judgment that always seemed to put himself in front of cameras. But. . . in a contest of Comey vs. Trump, Comey is by far the better and more honest public servant.

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Well I did post so a lot- too lazy to go back and find it. Maybe others gave me crap and you didn't. Trump is a an awfully low standard.

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I remember you posting this a lot - when Comey was in dispute with Trump (not so much when Comey was in dispute with Hillary). I'm sure we all hashed this out already before. Comey can be both a bad FBI Director who did irreparable harm to Hillary's campaign AND a far more credible public servant than Trump.

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I never understood under what authority an FBI Director can comment on an ongoing investigation, and said so several times. I still don't understand. The Justice Department said he no authority, and yet he made a pubic disclosure on Clinton anyway. As for being a credible public servant, if Trump is your expectation/stadard, we are doomed.

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The point of the comparison to Trump is that people were saying good things about Comey in relation to his dispute with Trump when Comey was fired. Trump admitted to firing Comey over the Russia thing. Many of us spoke up that Comey was in the right in that instance.

You and others started hollering about Democrats loving Comey which was and continues to be a red herring.

"Nobody wants to work with him"
"He told me he didn't believe a woman could be President"

This is junior high school quality stuff. Is this really the best that the establishment has to throw against him?

Meanwhile his response "On a good day, my wife likes me" and then goes right back to discussing impeachment. When pressed for why she's still talking about 2016, he says "That's a good question. Ask her."

LOL

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I do not necessarily like Hillary, but since Leon Panetta respects her, that is good enough for me. IMHO, Hillary lost in 2016 because of Russian interference, the Electoral College, and Bernie Sanders and his supporters. If he doesn't like her returning the favor, tough titty.

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And Comey pontificating about her case in complete disregard for FBI precedent and policy as well as Comey's fear of the anti-Hillary FBI leakers - whom we still don't know anything about and which is being covered up.

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I never understood the love on this board for Comey. The guy that put in place all the major surveillance programs post-911, the guy who laid a public turd on both Clinton and Trump for his own benefit, the guy who engaged in a lot Hoover like behavior. My general praise for the guy was he was great a giving testimony. But, beyond that I took a lot of guff saying this guy was a bad player. So I'm going to act like the ultimate 10 year old - told you so.....

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Well, I mean, you didn't tell me so, but maybe others. The thing about Comey, lifelong Republican, is he did his job as FBI Director poorly and lost control of the organization and had bad judgment that always seemed to put himself in front of cameras. But. . . in a contest of Comey vs. Trump, Comey is by far the better and more honest public servant.

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Well I did post so a lot- too lazy to go back and find it. Maybe others gave me crap and you didn't. Trump is a an awfully low standard.

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I remember you posting this a lot - when Comey was in dispute with Trump (not so much when Comey was in dispute with Hillary). I'm sure we all hashed this out already before. Comey can be both a bad FBI Director who did irreparable harm to Hillary's campaign AND a far more credible public servant than Trump.

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I never understood under what authority an FBI Director can comment on an ongoing investigation, and said so several times. I still don't understand. The Justice Department said he no authority, and yet he made a pubic disclosure on Clinton anyway. As for being a credible public servant, if Trump is your expectation/stadard, we are doomed.

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The point of the comparison to Trump is that people were saying good things about Comey in relation to his dispute with Trump when Comey was fired. Trump admitted to firing Comey over the Russia thing. Many of us spoke up that Comey was in the right in that instance.

You and others started hollering about Democrats loving Comey which was and continues to be a red herring.

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I said people on this Board, which does happen to contain several non-Dems. Come on, don't go Trump on me by changing the facts.

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"Nobody wants to work with him"
"He told me he didn't believe a woman could be President"

This is junior high school quality stuff. Is this really the best that the establishment has to throw against him?

Meanwhile his response "On a good day, my wife likes me" and then goes right back to discussing impeachment. When pressed for why she's still talking about 2016, he says "That's a good question. Ask her."

LOL

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Let me add; "she is a Russian asset":

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard sues Hillary Clinton for alleged 'Russian asset' smear in 2020 Democratic presidential contest, claiming $50 million in damages https://cnb.cx/2NMtwc7

And good for Bernie.

Maybe women are upset by Clinton's loss, but the more she says, the scary she sounds if she had won.

wifeisafurd said:

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Professor Turgeson Bear said:

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"Nobody wants to work with him"
"He told me he didn't believe a woman could be President"

This is junior high school quality stuff. Is this really the best that the establishment has to throw against him?

Meanwhile his response "On a good day, my wife likes me" and then goes right back to discussing impeachment. When pressed for why she's still talking about 2016, he says "That's a good question. Ask her."

LOL

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Let me add; "she is a Russian asset":

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard sues Hillary Clinton for alleged 'Russian asset' smear in 2020 Democratic presidential contest, claiming $50 million in damages https://cnb.cx/2NMtwc7

And good for Bernie.

Maybe women are upset by Clinton's loss, but the more she says, the scary she sounds if she had won.

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I enthusiastically voted for Clinton in the primaries though every time I would get to actually really like her, something would come from her or her campaign or would come out that would just really bring out the arrogance that she and Bill have.

I think she WAS impacted by sexism but even with that she went into 2016 with a much better political hand than any other candidate was dealt. She ran yet another terrible campaign. In 2008 she failed to see that Obama was the only threat and her campaign mocked him early. She then couldn't dispatch Sanders who was basically a protest candidate and stupidly fixated on running up the electoral score on Trump trying to expand the map and ignored the crucial tipping point states. And all the while she has given off the air that the presidency was owed to her.

Her behavior since has been completely entitled like a rich kid deprived of her birthright. She has been very disappointing. 95% of the reasons she lost are all on her.

I think she would have been a very good president, but she was a very bad candidate. You can't be the former without the latter.

wifeisafurd said:

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Professor Turgeson Bear said:

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"Nobody wants to work with him"
"He told me he didn't believe a woman could be President"

This is junior high school quality stuff. Is this really the best that the establishment has to throw against him?

Meanwhile his response "On a good day, my wife likes me" and then goes right back to discussing impeachment. When pressed for why she's still talking about 2016, he says "That's a good question. Ask her."

LOL

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Let me add; "she is a Russian asset":

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard sues Hillary Clinton for alleged 'Russian asset' smear in 2020 Democratic presidential contest, claiming $50 million in damages https://cnb.cx/2NMtwc7

And good for Bernie.

Maybe women are upset by Clinton's loss, but the more she says, the scary she sounds if she had won.

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Tulsi is proving that she really is more like a republican than a democrat by filing a frivolous lawsuit. This is Devin Nunes style.

wifeisafurd said:

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Professor Turgeson Bear said:

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"Nobody wants to work with him"
"He told me he didn't believe a woman could be President"

This is junior high school quality stuff. Is this really the best that the establishment has to throw against him?

Meanwhile his response "On a good day, my wife likes me" and then goes right back to discussing impeachment. When pressed for why she's still talking about 2016, he says "That's a good question. Ask her."

LOL

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Let me add; "she is a Russian asset":

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard sues Hillary Clinton for alleged 'Russian asset' smear in 2020 Democratic presidential contest, claiming $50 million in damages https://cnb.cx/2NMtwc7

And good for Bernie.

Maybe women are upset by Clinton's loss, but the more she says, the scary she sounds if she had won.

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Gabbard is really desperate. Hillary Clinton calls Jill Stein a Russian asset so Gabbard sues her and claims she is the defamed one. Gabbard needs Hillary, something, anything, to remain relevant so she can try to muck 2020 up for the Democrats so she can get her Fox News gig.

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wifeisafurd said:

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Professor Turgeson Bear said:

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"Nobody wants to work with him"
"He told me he didn't believe a woman could be President"

This is junior high school quality stuff. Is this really the best that the establishment has to throw against him?

Meanwhile his response "On a good day, my wife likes me" and then goes right back to discussing impeachment. When pressed for why she's still talking about 2016, he says "That's a good question. Ask her."

LOL

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Let me add; "she is a Russian asset":

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard sues Hillary Clinton for alleged 'Russian asset' smear in 2020 Democratic presidential contest, claiming $50 million in damages https://cnb.cx/2NMtwc7

And good for Bernie.

Maybe women are upset by Clinton's loss, but the more she says, the scary she sounds if she had won.

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Gabbard is really desperate. Hillary Clinton calls Jill Stein a Russian asset so Gabbard sues her and claims she is the defamed one. Gabbard needs Hillary, something, anything, to remain relevant so she can try to muck 2020 up for the Democrats so she can get her Fox News gig.

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Fox News gig: will she change her hair color to blond? If not, its MSNBC for her. I don't think Gabbard is relevant to the election, but the Clinton remark just shows how off the rails she has become to stay relevant.

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wifeisafurd said:

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Professor Turgeson Bear said:

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"Nobody wants to work with him"
"He told me he didn't believe a woman could be President"

This is junior high school quality stuff. Is this really the best that the establishment has to throw against him?

Meanwhile his response "On a good day, my wife likes me" and then goes right back to discussing impeachment. When pressed for why she's still talking about 2016, he says "That's a good question. Ask her."

LOL

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Let me add; "she is a Russian asset":

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard sues Hillary Clinton for alleged 'Russian asset' smear in 2020 Democratic presidential contest, claiming $50 million in damages https://cnb.cx/2NMtwc7

And good for Bernie.

Maybe women are upset by Clinton's loss, but the more she says, the scary she sounds if she had won.

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Gabbard is really desperate. Hillary Clinton calls Jill Stein a Russian asset so Gabbard sues her and claims she is the defamed one. Gabbard needs Hillary, something, anything, to remain relevant so she can try to muck 2020 up for the Democrats so she can get her Fox News gig.

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Fox News gig: will she change her hair color to blond? If not, its MSNBC for her. I don't think Gabbard is relevant to the election, but the Clinton remark just shows how off the rails she has become to stay relevant.

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Kimberly Guilfoyle has survived just fine without being blonde. Gabbard can do it!

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Professor Turgeson Bear said:

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"Nobody wants to work with him"
"He told me he didn't believe a woman could be President"

This is junior high school quality stuff. Is this really the best that the establishment has to throw against him?

Meanwhile his response "On a good day, my wife likes me" and then goes right back to discussing impeachment. When pressed for why she's still talking about 2016, he says "That's a good question. Ask her."

LOL

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Let me add; "she is a Russian asset":

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard sues Hillary Clinton for alleged 'Russian asset' smear in 2020 Democratic presidential contest, claiming $50 million in damages https://cnb.cx/2NMtwc7

And good for Bernie.

Maybe women are upset by Clinton's loss, but the more she says, the scary she sounds if she had won.

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Gabbard is really desperate. Hillary Clinton calls Jill Stein a Russian asset so Gabbard sues her and claims she is the defamed one. Gabbard needs Hillary, something, anything, to remain relevant so she can try to muck 2020 up for the Democrats so she can get her Fox News gig.

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Fox News gig: will she change her hair color to blond? If not, its MSNBC for her. I don't think Gabbard is relevant to the election, but the Clinton remark just shows how off the rails she has become to stay relevant.

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Kimberly Guilfoyle has survived just fine without being blonde. Gabbard can do it!

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Guilfoyle has other assets that make up for her lack of blondness. Gabbard not so much

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Professor Turgeson Bear said:

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"Nobody wants to work with him"
"He told me he didn't believe a woman could be President"

This is junior high school quality stuff. Is this really the best that the establishment has to throw against him?

Meanwhile his response "On a good day, my wife likes me" and then goes right back to discussing impeachment. When pressed for why she's still talking about 2016, he says "That's a good question. Ask her."

LOL

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Let me add; "she is a Russian asset":

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard sues Hillary Clinton for alleged 'Russian asset' smear in 2020 Democratic presidential contest, claiming $50 million in damages https://cnb.cx/2NMtwc7

And good for Bernie.

Maybe women are upset by Clinton's loss, but the more she says, the scary she sounds if she had won.

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Gabbard is really desperate. Hillary Clinton calls Jill Stein a Russian asset so Gabbard sues her and claims she is the defamed one. Gabbard needs Hillary, something, anything, to remain relevant so she can try to muck 2020 up for the Democrats so she can get her Fox News gig.

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Gabbard didn't sue Clinton because of what she said about Stein. Read the article.

oski003 said:

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dajo9 said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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Professor Turgeson Bear said:

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"Nobody wants to work with him"
"He told me he didn't believe a woman could be President"

This is junior high school quality stuff. Is this really the best that the establishment has to throw against him?

Meanwhile his response "On a good day, my wife likes me" and then goes right back to discussing impeachment. When pressed for why she's still talking about 2016, he says "That's a good question. Ask her."

LOL

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Let me add; "she is a Russian asset":

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard sues Hillary Clinton for alleged 'Russian asset' smear in 2020 Democratic presidential contest, claiming $50 million in damages https://cnb.cx/2NMtwc7

And good for Bernie.

Maybe women are upset by Clinton's loss, but the more she says, the scary she sounds if she had won.

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Gabbard is really desperate. Hillary Clinton calls Jill Stein a Russian asset so Gabbard sues her and claims she is the defamed one. Gabbard needs Hillary, something, anything, to remain relevant so she can try to muck 2020 up for the Democrats so she can get her Fox News gig.

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Gabbard didn't sue Clinton because of what she said about Stein. Read the article.

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I did read the article. It was very vague. You have to be vague when you want to support a false innuendo without lying.

dajo9 said:

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oski003 said:

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dajo9 said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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Professor Turgeson Bear said:

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"Nobody wants to work with him"
"He told me he didn't believe a woman could be President"

This is junior high school quality stuff. Is this really the best that the establishment has to throw against him?

Meanwhile his response "On a good day, my wife likes me" and then goes right back to discussing impeachment. When pressed for why she's still talking about 2016, he says "That's a good question. Ask her."

LOL

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Let me add; "she is a Russian asset":

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard sues Hillary Clinton for alleged 'Russian asset' smear in 2020 Democratic presidential contest, claiming $50 million in damages https://cnb.cx/2NMtwc7

And good for Bernie.

Maybe women are upset by Clinton's loss, but the more she says, the scary she sounds if she had won.

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Gabbard is really desperate. Hillary Clinton calls Jill Stein a Russian asset so Gabbard sues her and claims she is the defamed one. Gabbard needs Hillary, something, anything, to remain relevant so she can try to muck 2020 up for the Democrats so she can get her Fox News gig.

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Gabbard didn't sue Clinton because of what she said about Stein. Read the article.

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I did read the article. It was very vague. You have to be vague when you want to support a false innuendo without lying.

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Here are the actual comments.

The comments in question came last fall when Clinton appeared on a podcast hosted by former President Barack Obama's 2008 campaign manager, David Plouffe. The two discussed the upcoming presidential election, prompting Clinton to muse that President Donald Trump and the GOP are "grooming" a potential spoiler candidate for a third-party bid.

"I'm not making any predictions, but I think they've got their eye on somebody who's currently in the Democratic primary and they're grooming her to be the third-party candidate," Clinton told Plouffe.

She continued of the unnamed candidate: "She's the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far and that's assuming Jill Stein will give it up because she's also a Russian asset."

While Clinton did not mention Gabbard, a spokesperson confirmed the "Russian asset" comment referred to the Hawaii congresswoman. Both Senate investigators probing Russian interference in the 2016 election and former special counsel Robert Mueller found that Russian agents sought to boost Green Party candidate Jill Stein that year to siphon votes away from Clinton.

Now you can comment with knowledge of what you are commenting on.

This is going to set up an interesting precedent for people smeared with the Russian Asset libel, I'm thinking 50 yard-line season tickets for my upcoming lawsuit against dajo9...

oski003 said:

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dajo9 said:

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oski003 said:

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dajo9 said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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Professor Turgeson Bear said:

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"Nobody wants to work with him"
"He told me he didn't believe a woman could be President"

This is junior high school quality stuff. Is this really the best that the establishment has to throw against him?

Meanwhile his response "On a good day, my wife likes me" and then goes right back to discussing impeachment. When pressed for why she's still talking about 2016, he says "That's a good question. Ask her."

LOL

---

Let me add; "she is a Russian asset":

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard sues Hillary Clinton for alleged 'Russian asset' smear in 2020 Democratic presidential contest, claiming $50 million in damages https://cnb.cx/2NMtwc7

And good for Bernie.

Maybe women are upset by Clinton's loss, but the more she says, the scary she sounds if she had won.

---

Gabbard is really desperate. Hillary Clinton calls Jill Stein a Russian asset so Gabbard sues her and claims she is the defamed one. Gabbard needs Hillary, something, anything, to remain relevant so she can try to muck 2020 up for the Democrats so she can get her Fox News gig.

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Gabbard didn't sue Clinton because of what she said about Stein. Read the article.

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I did read the article. It was very vague. You have to be vague when you want to support a false innuendo without lying.

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Here are the actual comments.

The comments in question came last fall when Clinton appeared on a podcast hosted by former President Barack Obama's 2008 campaign manager, David Plouffe. The two discussed the upcoming presidential election, prompting Clinton to muse that President Donald Trump and the GOP are "grooming" a potential spoiler candidate for a third-party bid.

"I'm not making any predictions, but I think they've got their eye on somebody who's currently in the Democratic primary and they're grooming her to be the third-party candidate," Clinton told Plouffe.

She continued of the unnamed candidate: "She's the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far and that's assuming Jill Stein will give it up because she's also a Russian asset."

While Clinton did not mention Gabbard, a spokesperson confirmed the "Russian asset" comment referred to the Hawaii congresswoman. Both Senate investigators probing Russian interference in the 2016 election and former special counsel Robert Mueller found that Russian agents sought to boost Green Party candidate Jill Stein that year to siphon votes away from Clinton.

Now you can comment with knowledge of what you are commenting on.

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Yes, the Russians are favoring Tulsi Gabbard. That has been researched and is quantifiably true. That is also what the spokesperson, Nick Merrill, confirmed.

Merrill did NOT confirm that Gabbard was being called a Russian asset. There is a difference. Gabbard is more akin to a useful idiot. Your media sources are (purposefully) misleading you. That's also why the Washington Post gave Gabbard 3 pinochios in her earlier misquotes of Hillary and why this lawsuit will be quickly thrown out of court after Gabbard has raised some money off it from other useful idiots.

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This is going to set up an interesting precedent for people smeared with the Russian Asset libel, I'm thinking 50 yard-line season tickets for my upcoming lawsuit against dajo9...

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Good luck, comrade

I'm going to need some of that, but also a couple of paralegals to compile the hundreds of idiotic smears.

dajo9 said:

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oski003 said:

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dajo9 said:

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oski003 said:

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dajo9 said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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Professor Turgeson Bear said:

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"Nobody wants to work with him"
"He told me he didn't believe a woman could be President"

This is junior high school quality stuff. Is this really the best that the establishment has to throw against him?

Meanwhile his response "On a good day, my wife likes me" and then goes right back to discussing impeachment. When pressed for why she's still talking about 2016, he says "That's a good question. Ask her."

LOL

---

Let me add; "she is a Russian asset":

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard sues Hillary Clinton for alleged 'Russian asset' smear in 2020 Democratic presidential contest, claiming $50 million in damages https://cnb.cx/2NMtwc7

And good for Bernie.

Maybe women are upset by Clinton's loss, but the more she says, the scary she sounds if she had won.

---

Gabbard is really desperate. Hillary Clinton calls Jill Stein a Russian asset so Gabbard sues her and claims she is the defamed one. Gabbard needs Hillary, something, anything, to remain relevant so she can try to muck 2020 up for the Democrats so she can get her Fox News gig.

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Gabbard didn't sue Clinton because of what she said about Stein. Read the article.

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I did read the article. It was very vague. You have to be vague when you want to support a false innuendo without lying.

---

Here are the actual comments.

The comments in question came last fall when Clinton appeared on a podcast hosted by former President Barack Obama's 2008 campaign manager, David Plouffe. The two discussed the upcoming presidential election, prompting Clinton to muse that President Donald Trump and the GOP are "grooming" a potential spoiler candidate for a third-party bid.

"I'm not making any predictions, but I think they've got their eye on somebody who's currently in the Democratic primary and they're grooming her to be the third-party candidate," Clinton told Plouffe.

She continued of the unnamed candidate: "She's the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far and that's assuming Jill Stein will give it up because she's also a Russian asset."

While Clinton did not mention Gabbard, a spokesperson confirmed the "Russian asset" comment referred to the Hawaii congresswoman. Both Senate investigators probing Russian interference in the 2016 election and former special counsel Robert Mueller found that Russian agents sought to boost Green Party candidate Jill Stein that year to siphon votes away from Clinton.

Now you can comment with knowledge of what you are commenting on.

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Yes, the Russians are favoring Tulsi Gabbard. That has been researched and is quantifiably true. That is also what the spokesperson, Nick Merrill, confirmed.

Merrill did NOT confirm that Gabbard was being called a Russian asset. There is a difference. Gabbard is more akin to a useful idiot. Your media sources are (purposefully) misleading you. That's also why the Washington Post gave Gabbard 3 pinochios in her earlier misquotes of Hillary and why this lawsuit will be quickly thrown out of court after Gabbard has raised some money off it from other useful idiots.

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It's no surprise that on a male dominated forum like this, there are few people willing to speak up in support of Tulsi, a woman of color and a soldier who serves her country A few men, such as me, are inspired by Tulsi as well. Very few good, honest, public servants have had to put up with as much garbage and viscious smears as Tulsi and I greatly appreciate her for it.

Unit2Sucks said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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Professor Turgeson Bear said:

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"Nobody wants to work with him"
"He told me he didn't believe a woman could be President"

This is junior high school quality stuff. Is this really the best that the establishment has to throw against him?

Meanwhile his response "On a good day, my wife likes me" and then goes right back to discussing impeachment. When pressed for why she's still talking about 2016, he says "That's a good question. Ask her."

LOL

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Let me add; "she is a Russian asset":

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard sues Hillary Clinton for alleged 'Russian asset' smear in 2020 Democratic presidential contest, claiming $50 million in damages https://cnb.cx/2NMtwc7

And good for Bernie.

Maybe women are upset by Clinton's loss, but the more she says, the scary she sounds if she had won.

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Tulsi is proving that she really is more like a republican than a democrat by filing a frivolous lawsuit. This is Devin Nunes style.

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Are Hillary and Warren also "more like republicans" when they smear Bernie?

Anarchistbear said:

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dajo9 said:

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oski003 said:

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dajo9 said:

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oski003 said:

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dajo9 said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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Professor Turgeson Bear said:

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"Nobody wants to work with him"
"He told me he didn't believe a woman could be President"

This is junior high school quality stuff. Is this really the best that the establishment has to throw against him?

Meanwhile his response "On a good day, my wife likes me" and then goes right back to discussing impeachment. When pressed for why she's still talking about 2016, he says "That's a good question. Ask her."

LOL

---

Let me add; "she is a Russian asset":

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard sues Hillary Clinton for alleged 'Russian asset' smear in 2020 Democratic presidential contest, claiming $50 million in damages https://cnb.cx/2NMtwc7

And good for Bernie.

Maybe women are upset by Clinton's loss, but the more she says, the scary she sounds if she had won.

---

Gabbard is really desperate. Hillary Clinton calls Jill Stein a Russian asset so Gabbard sues her and claims she is the defamed one. Gabbard needs Hillary, something, anything, to remain relevant so she can try to muck 2020 up for the Democrats so she can get her Fox News gig.

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Gabbard didn't sue Clinton because of what she said about Stein. Read the article.

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I did read the article. It was very vague. You have to be vague when you want to support a false innuendo without lying.

---

Here are the actual comments.

The comments in question came last fall when Clinton appeared on a podcast hosted by former President Barack Obama's 2008 campaign manager, David Plouffe. The two discussed the upcoming presidential election, prompting Clinton to muse that President Donald Trump and the GOP are "grooming" a potential spoiler candidate for a third-party bid.

"I'm not making any predictions, but I think they've got their eye on somebody who's currently in the Democratic primary and they're grooming her to be the third-party candidate," Clinton told Plouffe.

She continued of the unnamed candidate: "She's the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far and that's assuming Jill Stein will give it up because she's also a Russian asset."

While Clinton did not mention Gabbard, a spokesperson confirmed the "Russian asset" comment referred to the Hawaii congresswoman. Both Senate investigators probing Russian interference in the 2016 election and former special counsel Robert Mueller found that Russian agents sought to boost Green Party candidate Jill Stein that year to siphon votes away from Clinton.

Now you can comment with knowledge of what you are commenting on.

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Yes, the Russians are favoring Tulsi Gabbard. That has been researched and is quantifiably true. That is also what the spokesperson, Nick Merrill, confirmed.

Merrill did NOT confirm that Gabbard was being called a Russian asset. There is a difference. Gabbard is more akin to a useful idiot. Your media sources are (purposefully) misleading you. That's also why the Washington Post gave Gabbard 3 pinochios in her earlier misquotes of Hillary and why this lawsuit will be quickly thrown out of court after Gabbard has raised some money off it from other useful idiots.

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It's no surprise that on a male dominated forum like this, there are few people willing to speak up in support of Tulsi, a woman of color and a soldier who serves her country A few men, such as me, are inspired by Tulsi as well. Very few good, honest, public servants have had to put up with as much garbage and viscious smears as Tulsi and I greatly appreciate her for it.

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That makes sense. She's a Democrat like you're an anarchist.

dajo9 said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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dajo9 said:

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oski003 said:

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dajo9 said:

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oski003 said:

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dajo9 said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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Professor Turgeson Bear said:

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"Nobody wants to work with him"
"He told me he didn't believe a woman could be President"

This is junior high school quality stuff. Is this really the best that the establishment has to throw against him?

Meanwhile his response "On a good day, my wife likes me" and then goes right back to discussing impeachment. When pressed for why she's still talking about 2016, he says "That's a good question. Ask her."

LOL

---

Let me add; "she is a Russian asset":

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard sues Hillary Clinton for alleged 'Russian asset' smear in 2020 Democratic presidential contest, claiming $50 million in damages https://cnb.cx/2NMtwc7

And good for Bernie.

Maybe women are upset by Clinton's loss, but the more she says, the scary she sounds if she had won.

---

Gabbard is really desperate. Hillary Clinton calls Jill Stein a Russian asset so Gabbard sues her and claims she is the defamed one. Gabbard needs Hillary, something, anything, to remain relevant so she can try to muck 2020 up for the Democrats so she can get her Fox News gig.

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Gabbard didn't sue Clinton because of what she said about Stein. Read the article.

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I did read the article. It was very vague. You have to be vague when you want to support a false innuendo without lying.

---

Here are the actual comments.

The comments in question came last fall when Clinton appeared on a podcast hosted by former President Barack Obama's 2008 campaign manager, David Plouffe. The two discussed the upcoming presidential election, prompting Clinton to muse that President Donald Trump and the GOP are "grooming" a potential spoiler candidate for a third-party bid.

"I'm not making any predictions, but I think they've got their eye on somebody who's currently in the Democratic primary and they're grooming her to be the third-party candidate," Clinton told Plouffe.

She continued of the unnamed candidate: "She's the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far and that's assuming Jill Stein will give it up because she's also a Russian asset."

While Clinton did not mention Gabbard, a spokesperson confirmed the "Russian asset" comment referred to the Hawaii congresswoman. Both Senate investigators probing Russian interference in the 2016 election and former special counsel Robert Mueller found that Russian agents sought to boost Green Party candidate Jill Stein that year to siphon votes away from Clinton.

Now you can comment with knowledge of what you are commenting on.

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Yes, the Russians are favoring Tulsi Gabbard. That has been researched and is quantifiably true. That is also what the spokesperson, Nick Merrill, confirmed.

Merrill did NOT confirm that Gabbard was being called a Russian asset. There is a difference. Gabbard is more akin to a useful idiot. Your media sources are (purposefully) misleading you. That's also why the Washington Post gave Gabbard 3 pinochios in her earlier misquotes of Hillary and why this lawsuit will be quickly thrown out of court after Gabbard has raised some money off it from other useful idiots.

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It's no surprise that on a male dominated forum like this, there are few people willing to speak up in support of Tulsi, a woman of color and a soldier who serves her country A few men, such as me, are inspired by Tulsi as well. Very few good, honest, public servants have had to put up with as much garbage and viscious smears as Tulsi and I greatly appreciate her for it.

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That makes sense. She's a Democrat like you're an anarchist.

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And you're a progressive like the guy in the Village People is an Indian.

Anarchistbear said:

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dajo9 said:

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oski003 said:

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dajo9 said:

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oski003 said:

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dajo9 said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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Professor Turgeson Bear said:

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"Nobody wants to work with him"
"He told me he didn't believe a woman could be President"

This is junior high school quality stuff. Is this really the best that the establishment has to throw against him?

Meanwhile his response "On a good day, my wife likes me" and then goes right back to discussing impeachment. When pressed for why she's still talking about 2016, he says "That's a good question. Ask her."

LOL

---

Let me add; "she is a Russian asset":

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard sues Hillary Clinton for alleged 'Russian asset' smear in 2020 Democratic presidential contest, claiming $50 million in damages https://cnb.cx/2NMtwc7

And good for Bernie.

Maybe women are upset by Clinton's loss, but the more she says, the scary she sounds if she had won.

---

Gabbard is really desperate. Hillary Clinton calls Jill Stein a Russian asset so Gabbard sues her and claims she is the defamed one. Gabbard needs Hillary, something, anything, to remain relevant so she can try to muck 2020 up for the Democrats so she can get her Fox News gig.

---

Gabbard didn't sue Clinton because of what she said about Stein. Read the article.

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I did read the article. It was very vague. You have to be vague when you want to support a false innuendo without lying.

---

Here are the actual comments.

The comments in question came last fall when Clinton appeared on a podcast hosted by former President Barack Obama's 2008 campaign manager, David Plouffe. The two discussed the upcoming presidential election, prompting Clinton to muse that President Donald Trump and the GOP are "grooming" a potential spoiler candidate for a third-party bid.

"I'm not making any predictions, but I think they've got their eye on somebody who's currently in the Democratic primary and they're grooming her to be the third-party candidate," Clinton told Plouffe.

She continued of the unnamed candidate: "She's the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far and that's assuming Jill Stein will give it up because she's also a Russian asset."

While Clinton did not mention Gabbard, a spokesperson confirmed the "Russian asset" comment referred to the Hawaii congresswoman. Both Senate investigators probing Russian interference in the 2016 election and former special counsel Robert Mueller found that Russian agents sought to boost Green Party candidate Jill Stein that year to siphon votes away from Clinton.

Now you can comment with knowledge of what you are commenting on.

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Yes, the Russians are favoring Tulsi Gabbard. That has been researched and is quantifiably true. That is also what the spokesperson, Nick Merrill, confirmed.

Merrill did NOT confirm that Gabbard was being called a Russian asset. There is a difference. Gabbard is more akin to a useful idiot. Your media sources are (purposefully) misleading you. That's also why the Washington Post gave Gabbard 3 pinochios in her earlier misquotes of Hillary and why this lawsuit will be quickly thrown out of court after Gabbard has raised some money off it from other useful idiots.

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It's no surprise that on a male dominated forum like this, there are few people willing to speak up in support of Tulsi, a woman of color and a soldier who serves her country A few men, such as me, are inspired by Tulsi as well. Very few good, honest, public servants have had to put up with as much garbage and viscious smears as Tulsi and I greatly appreciate her for it.

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Now THAT is a disingenuous argument.

sycasey said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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dajo9 said:

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oski003 said:

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dajo9 said:

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oski003 said:

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dajo9 said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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Professor Turgeson Bear said:

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"Nobody wants to work with him"
"He told me he didn't believe a woman could be President"

This is junior high school quality stuff. Is this really the best that the establishment has to throw against him?

Meanwhile his response "On a good day, my wife likes me" and then goes right back to discussing impeachment. When pressed for why she's still talking about 2016, he says "That's a good question. Ask her."

LOL

---

Let me add; "she is a Russian asset":

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard sues Hillary Clinton for alleged 'Russian asset' smear in 2020 Democratic presidential contest, claiming $50 million in damages https://cnb.cx/2NMtwc7

And good for Bernie.

Maybe women are upset by Clinton's loss, but the more she says, the scary she sounds if she had won.

---

Gabbard is really desperate. Hillary Clinton calls Jill Stein a Russian asset so Gabbard sues her and claims she is the defamed one. Gabbard needs Hillary, something, anything, to remain relevant so she can try to muck 2020 up for the Democrats so she can get her Fox News gig.

---

Gabbard didn't sue Clinton because of what she said about Stein. Read the article.

---

I did read the article. It was very vague. You have to be vague when you want to support a false innuendo without lying.

---

Here are the actual comments.

The comments in question came last fall when Clinton appeared on a podcast hosted by former President Barack Obama's 2008 campaign manager, David Plouffe. The two discussed the upcoming presidential election, prompting Clinton to muse that President Donald Trump and the GOP are "grooming" a potential spoiler candidate for a third-party bid.

"I'm not making any predictions, but I think they've got their eye on somebody who's currently in the Democratic primary and they're grooming her to be the third-party candidate," Clinton told Plouffe.

She continued of the unnamed candidate: "She's the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far and that's assuming Jill Stein will give it up because she's also a Russian asset."

While Clinton did not mention Gabbard, a spokesperson confirmed the "Russian asset" comment referred to the Hawaii congresswoman. Both Senate investigators probing Russian interference in the 2016 election and former special counsel Robert Mueller found that Russian agents sought to boost Green Party candidate Jill Stein that year to siphon votes away from Clinton.

Now you can comment with knowledge of what you are commenting on.

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Yes, the Russians are favoring Tulsi Gabbard. That has been researched and is quantifiably true. That is also what the spokesperson, Nick Merrill, confirmed.

Merrill did NOT confirm that Gabbard was being called a Russian asset. There is a difference. Gabbard is more akin to a useful idiot. Your media sources are (purposefully) misleading you. That's also why the Washington Post gave Gabbard 3 pinochios in her earlier misquotes of Hillary and why this lawsuit will be quickly thrown out of court after Gabbard has raised some money off it from other useful idiots.

---

It's no surprise that on a male dominated forum like this, there are few people willing to speak up in support of Tulsi, a woman of color and a soldier who serves her country A few men, such as me, are inspired by Tulsi as well. Very few good, honest, public servants have had to put up with as much garbage and viscious smears as Tulsi and I greatly appreciate her for it.

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Now THAT is a disingenuous argument.

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No more than this one.

"People, men typically, underestimate the amount of support Hillary has. A large number of women in this country are inspired by Hillary Clinton. It's no surprise that on a male dominated forum like this, there are few people willing to speak up in support of Hillary. A few men, such as me, are inspired by Hillary as well. Very few good, honest, public servants have had to put up with as much garbage as Hillary Clinton and I greatly appreciate her for it. I just about always like to hear what Hillary Clinton has to say and usually she is completely on point. In this case, it's a bit more divisive than I would like in an election year. But, in general, keep it coming Hillary."

Anarchistbear said:

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sycasey said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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dajo9 said:

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oski003 said:

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dajo9 said:

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oski003 said:

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dajo9 said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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Professor Turgeson Bear said:

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"Nobody wants to work with him"
"He told me he didn't believe a woman could be President"

This is junior high school quality stuff. Is this really the best that the establishment has to throw against him?

Meanwhile his response "On a good day, my wife likes me" and then goes right back to discussing impeachment. When pressed for why she's still talking about 2016, he says "That's a good question. Ask her."

LOL

---

Let me add; "she is a Russian asset":

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard sues Hillary Clinton for alleged 'Russian asset' smear in 2020 Democratic presidential contest, claiming $50 million in damages https://cnb.cx/2NMtwc7

And good for Bernie.

Maybe women are upset by Clinton's loss, but the more she says, the scary she sounds if she had won.

---

Gabbard is really desperate. Hillary Clinton calls Jill Stein a Russian asset so Gabbard sues her and claims she is the defamed one. Gabbard needs Hillary, something, anything, to remain relevant so she can try to muck 2020 up for the Democrats so she can get her Fox News gig.

---

Gabbard didn't sue Clinton because of what she said about Stein. Read the article.

---

I did read the article. It was very vague. You have to be vague when you want to support a false innuendo without lying.

---

Here are the actual comments.

The comments in question came last fall when Clinton appeared on a podcast hosted by former President Barack Obama's 2008 campaign manager, David Plouffe. The two discussed the upcoming presidential election, prompting Clinton to muse that President Donald Trump and the GOP are "grooming" a potential spoiler candidate for a third-party bid.

"I'm not making any predictions, but I think they've got their eye on somebody who's currently in the Democratic primary and they're grooming her to be the third-party candidate," Clinton told Plouffe.

She continued of the unnamed candidate: "She's the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far and that's assuming Jill Stein will give it up because she's also a Russian asset."

While Clinton did not mention Gabbard, a spokesperson confirmed the "Russian asset" comment referred to the Hawaii congresswoman. Both Senate investigators probing Russian interference in the 2016 election and former special counsel Robert Mueller found that Russian agents sought to boost Green Party candidate Jill Stein that year to siphon votes away from Clinton.

Now you can comment with knowledge of what you are commenting on.

---

Yes, the Russians are favoring Tulsi Gabbard. That has been researched and is quantifiably true. That is also what the spokesperson, Nick Merrill, confirmed.

Merrill did NOT confirm that Gabbard was being called a Russian asset. There is a difference. Gabbard is more akin to a useful idiot. Your media sources are (purposefully) misleading you. That's also why the Washington Post gave Gabbard 3 pinochios in her earlier misquotes of Hillary and why this lawsuit will be quickly thrown out of court after Gabbard has raised some money off it from other useful idiots.

---

It's no surprise that on a male dominated forum like this, there are few people willing to speak up in support of Tulsi, a woman of color and a soldier who serves her country A few men, such as me, are inspired by Tulsi as well. Very few good, honest, public servants have had to put up with as much garbage and viscious smears as Tulsi and I greatly appreciate her for it.

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Now THAT is a disingenuous argument.

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No more than this one.

"People, men typically, underestimate the amount of support Hillary has. A large number of women in this country are inspired by Hillary Clinton. It's no surprise that on a male dominated forum like this, there are few people willing to speak up in support of Hillary. A few men, such as me, are inspired by Hillary as well. Very few good, honest, public servants have had to put up with as much garbage as Hillary Clinton and I greatly appreciate her for it. I just about always like to hear what Hillary Clinton has to say and usually she is completely on point. In this case, it's a bit more divisive than I would like in an election year. But, in general, keep it coming Hillary."

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I don't agree with that, but I can believe that dajo believes it.

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Unit2Sucks said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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Professor Turgeson Bear said:

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"Nobody wants to work with him"
"He told me he didn't believe a woman could be President"

This is junior high school quality stuff. Is this really the best that the establishment has to throw against him?

Meanwhile his response "On a good day, my wife likes me" and then goes right back to discussing impeachment. When pressed for why she's still talking about 2016, he says "That's a good question. Ask her."

LOL

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Let me add; "she is a Russian asset":

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard sues Hillary Clinton for alleged 'Russian asset' smear in 2020 Democratic presidential contest, claiming $50 million in damages https://cnb.cx/2NMtwc7

And good for Bernie.

Maybe women are upset by Clinton's loss, but the more she says, the scary she sounds if she had won.

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Tulsi is proving that she really is more like a republican than a democrat by filing a frivolous lawsuit. This is Devin Nunes style.

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Are Hillary and Warren also "more like republicans" when they smear Bernie?

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No, I think Republicans love Bernie because he is less likely to beat Trump. And they benefit even if he loses because his bros would make it harder for the eventual nominee to get elected. You don't think Trump and Republicans favor Bernie because they think he would make a better POTUS do you?

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Cal88 said:

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Are Hillary and Warren also "more like republicans" when they smear Bernie?

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No, I think Republicans love Bernie because he is less likely to beat Trump. And they benefit even if he loses because his bros would make it harder for the eventual nominee to get elected. You don't think Trump and Republicans favor Bernie because they think he would make a better POTUS do you?

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https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-6250.html

That shows that Trump is much closer to beating Sanders than Biden and he hasn't even started attacking Sanders yet. More evidence for my position.

Unit2Sucks said:

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That shows that Trump is much closer to beating Sanders than Biden and he hasn't even started attacking Sanders yet. More evidence for my position.

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I suggest you read those polls again