Elizabeth coming off like a whining, lecturing professor. She is officially deceased. Biden, done. Amy, baked. Pete? Nope. Mike and Bernie are last men standing.
*BTW, The "who is winning the debate" poll on Drudge has Bernie winning. Who do you figure the Drudge base wants running against their boy?
I almost always agree with you but i think the one clear loser last night was Bloomberg. I think he might be done before he started. He was horrible.
Bearister seems to think that he can continue speaking a Bloomberg win into existence. Pretty much all the commentary I've seen says that Bloomberg was bad in this debate.
And Major Pete and Amy has a back forth where she played the women card: Are you calling me dumb? Can you imagine what happens if a male candidate tried that?
I'm moving to Dingle to live out my days catching dog fish, conger eel and gurnard and regaling the locals with tales of the old days on BearInsider. I may even join the Sinn Fein Revolution sweeping the Republic.
Bloomberg looked like the player who missed spring training and then was called into the game in the 7th inning. Painful to watch. He was playing defense all night and didn't introduce any policies that could differentiate him from the pack. Hard to believe the debate didn't set him back.
Does any Democrat here still think Bloomberg could win the nomination even after watching him take live fire tonight? His baggage and lack of sufficient charisma make me feel he is DOA. His advantage in ad spend is massive, but at some point people will tune into at least one of his debates, and they will see a striking contrast between how bad ass he is in commercials versus on live tv.
You'll have to forgive my good friend bearister, one of my favorite posters on this board. He just suffered a crushing end to his dream of a white knight moderate savior to stop the inevitable Sanders nomination.
Tonight was the greatest debate in American political history. Four career Democrats fighting for their electoral lives and one independent stood up to an American oligarch blatantly trying to buy an election despite a treasure trove of easily verifiable information that would sink him in the eyes of any true Democrat. You can lie to Republicans and they'll believe whatever Fox News tells them to believe. You have some Democrats that aren't on the Internet and just trust a bunch of vague well done TV ads to give you an impression that a guy knows what he's doing. You can buy off major news corporations, minority political operatives, cash desperate mayors, and even Stacey Abrams to give yourself an illusion of Democratic credibility. But in the Internet age, you cannot hide from your past and tonight, all five candidates did our country an incredible service standing up to rich people buying elections right in our face.
The guy even admitted publicly that he could never win due to his past unless he went on a CNN apology tour. Which is precisely what he did.
And they predicted precisely how this debate would go down.
Joe Biden came back from the dead and finally stood for something instead of clinging to an electability argument that didn't wash. People wanted inspiration and he wasn't giving it to them. Tonight he brought fire and specific stances. He wasn't a clear winner, but he finally started fighting for something he assumed he was entitled to.
Warren scored points alone for hammering home how many NDA he had with women. He looked like a fool in that exchange. Which he is. But she burned her credibility with a lack of a viable health care plan and playing identity politics to try to score points. She vacillated tonight between being female solidarity with Klobuchar and then sometimes attacking her to try to get back some of the white affluent female vote she lost to her in New Hampshire.
Klobuchar was not as strong as expected. Buttigieg attacked her and she almost broke down in tears. She led in talking time, but the moderators (who were the one horrible part of the debate - Chuck Todd is a straight up ********** and the Latin woman kept interrupting everybody) and she looked weak on climate change and wasn't convincing that her state appeal with minorities extends nationally.
Buttigieg is a terrific public speaker, but he makes some unfair attacks to try to score points, can't deal with tough questions, and is a small-town mayor from a small college town with no bonafides. I don't think his has ever been a serious campaign for President. I don't think he ever seriously thought he could win, though maybe his fundraising and short honeymoon with the media gave him a boost he never earned. I think this campaign was more about getting him name recognition for his next political move after South Bend. If he wants to be President, he needs to prove himself as a governor, Congressman, or Senator first. You don't get to skip to the head of the class anymore. We tried that and we got burned badly.
Sanders is one great performance on Super Tuesday from virtually wrapping this election up. He was his predictable self tonight saying the same things he always says.
As an aside, I have to say that I'm utterly embarrassed on behalf of anyone on this board that actually is college educated, even if you didn't go to Cal, and didn't realize that Bloomberg was an utter fraud as a Democratic candidate. All this stuff on him has been out there for years and easily verifiable with no plausible deniability for him. He was mayor of a much bigger town, but he was a disaster in that job and had to buy his way in. He has years of supporting Republican candidates, values, and the Iraq war. He was absurdly easy to take down and his little memo about how everyone should GTFO of his way and let him win this thing just sealed the deal that they were going to murder his ass on national TV tonight. And they did. He won't hold elective office ever again in his life for either party. He probably won't ever get up on a debate stage again. He'll just stay in the race like a petulant child, stealing votes from actual Democratic moderates in the hope that a brokered convention can save him. But it can't.
What you people have consistently refused to understand is that the Sanders voting block is the second largest voting demographic in this country behind Trump supporters. And it's growing and continues to grow as people start to realize that he actually could win. People love Sanders. They love that he's been true to his message his whole life, that he can't be bought, and that he stands up for the immigrants, the disenfranchised, and the working class against the big money that has controlled American politics for most of our history. The only thing that has ever stopped more people from voting for him is the fear that he can't win. But as his message continues to resonate and he keeps winning states, that fear is going away. They realize that he's got the most enthusiastic base in the Democratic Party and that they are the most loyal, while everybody else jumps from candidate to candidate hoping someone can stop him because they want to keep their taxes lower. But there is no white knight coming to save you. Candidates will continue peeling off as they run out of money and all that will be left will be a petulant Bloomberg who will refuse to concede like Tulsi, while avoiding the debate stage for fear of a repeat of tonight and hoping the Never Berners will come back to him. But now there are also a lot of Never Bloomers now that they realize he's a fraud.
Even if somehow you could get to the convention, get your brokered convention, and deny the will of the majority of the voters of your party, it would be a Pyrrhic victory. As I told you, Sanders has the second largest voting demographic in the field. It's true that he can't win without your moderate votes. But you can't win without Sanders supporters and in that game of chicken, Sanders supporters win. Many of us will vote for someone who wins a majority of pledged delegates. We talk about it all the time. There are some Bernie or Bust folks, but they're not the majority. You think that the Twitter trolls represent all Sanders voters, but you've never met actual Sanders supporters in real life. If you'd been to the rally in Richmond, you would have seen how utterly normal and diverse they are. And you would have seen just how enthusiastic they are for Sanders. But they hate Trump just as much as you do. In a fair loss, they will ultimately rally around the winner and get Trump out. You **** them over and they will **** you worse. The math is either 4 more years of Trump and a new progressive going for the nomination or a potential 8 years of a crooked DNC getting what they tried to sell their soul for and failed miserably at tonight. They will take the 4 years and say **** you to the DNC.
Warren and Buttigieg have the money to stay in the race for a while. Biden still has some national standing in the polls, but after Super Tuesday he may just look like Mr. Third Place. Klobuchar needs some decent finishes or New Hampshire will become irrelevant, she'll run out of money, and be gone. If any of you soul-selling idiots have a shred of Democratic values in you, you will throw your support behind Biden or Klobuchar, both of whom like you upper-middle-class types a lot and have the experience to do the job at a much higher level than Trump can, but will appoint federal judges that will stand for what you stand. Maybe you'll even decide you can stomach Warren's progressive leanings and get behind her if she outlasts Klobuchar. Some of you will still fall for Buttigieg's strong speaking skills and excuse him for having no actual federal governing experience, but his negative and his continued lying about having the support of blacks will ultimately kill him. I'd provide the link, but I'm so unconcerned about him I don't need to bother. Go look it up yourself if you want.
Someone other than Sanders needs to win South Carolina or it's all over by Super Tuesday. And I mean completely over.
Three things: 1. I'm tired of all the pro bernie people using 'the hill' as a news source, they are as biased and slanted as fox news. Stop acting like they are a legitimate news source because they arent.
2. My big hang up on bernie is his opposition to free trade and support for protectionist policies. I want the us to enter the tpp. I think it makes the world a safer place and america a safer place and improves my life.
3. That said, I am on team vote blue no matter who.
Warren keeps tanking, Sanders looks better and better. Too many moderates in the room for anyone of them to get Oxygen. I heard Mayor B and Amy express some interesting policy when they were not pissing on each other. Biden continued his low profile debate appearances (what does this wins him?) and Bloomburg looked like Steyer light, as he floundered about. I thought Sanders, who should have been attacked by everyone as the leader, won the debate.
Does any Democrat here still think Bloomberg could win the nomination even after watching him take live fire tonight? His baggage and lack of sufficient charisma make me feel he is DOA. His advantage in ad spend is massive, but at some point people will tune into at least one of his debates, and they will see a striking contrast between how bad ass he is in commercials versus on live tv.
You'll have to forgive my good friend bearister, one of my favorite posters on this board. He just suffered a crushing end to his dream of a white knight moderate savior to stop the inevitable Sanders nomination.
Tonight was the greatest debate in American political history. Four career Democrats fighting for their electoral lives and one independent stood up to an American oligarch blatantly trying to buy an election despite a treasure trove of easily verifiable information that would sink him in the eyes of any true Democrat. You can lie to Republicans and they'll believe whatever Fox News tells them to believe. You have some Democrats that aren't on the Internet and just trust a bunch of vague well done TV ads to give you an impression that a guy knows what he's doing. You can buy off major news corporations, minority political operatives, cash desperate mayors, and even Stacey Abrams to give yourself an illusion of Democratic credibility. But in the Internet age, you cannot hide from your past and tonight, all five candidates did our country an incredible service standing up to rich people buying elections right in our face.
The guy even admitted publicly that he could never win due to his past unless he went on a CNN apology tour. Which is precisely what he did.
And they predicted precisely how this debate would go down.
Joe Biden came back from the dead and finally stood for something instead of clinging to an electability argument that didn't wash. People wanted inspiration and he wasn't giving it to them. Tonight he brought fire and specific stances. He wasn't a clear winner, but he finally started fighting for something he assumed he was entitled to.
Warren scored points alone for hammering home how many NDA he had with women. He looked like a fool in that exchange. Which he is. But she burned her credibility with a lack of a viable health care plan and playing identity politics to try to score points. She vacillated tonight between being female solidarity with Klobuchar and then sometimes attacking her to try to get back some of the white affluent female vote she lost to her in New Hampshire.
Klobuchar was not as strong as expected. Buttigieg attacked her and she almost broke down in tears. She led in talking time, but the moderators (who were the one horrible part of the debate - Chuck Todd is a straight up ********** and the Latin woman kept interrupting everybody) and she looked weak on climate change and wasn't convincing that her state appeal with minorities extends nationally.
Buttigieg is a terrific public speaker, but he makes some unfair attacks to try to score points, can't deal with tough questions, and is a small-town mayor from a small college town with no bonafides. I don't think his has ever been a serious campaign for President. I don't think he ever seriously thought he could win, though maybe his fundraising and short honeymoon with the media gave him a boost he never earned. I think this campaign was more about getting him name recognition for his next political move after South Bend. If he wants to be President, he needs to prove himself as a governor, Congressman, or Senator first. You don't get to skip to the head of the class anymore. We tried that and we got burned badly.
Sanders is one great performance on Super Tuesday from virtually wrapping this election up. He was his predictable self tonight saying the same things he always says.
As an aside, I have to say that I'm utterly embarrassed on behalf of anyone on this board that actually is college educated, even if you didn't go to Cal, and didn't realize that Bloomberg was an utter fraud as a Democratic candidate. All this stuff on him has been out there for years and easily verifiable with no plausible deniability for him. He was mayor of a much bigger town, but he was a disaster in that job and had to buy his way in. He has years of supporting Republican candidates, values, and the Iraq war. He was absurdly easy to take down and his little memo about how everyone should GTFO of his way and let him win this thing just sealed the deal that they were going to murder his ass on national TV tonight. And they did. He won't hold elective office ever again in his life for either party. He probably won't ever get up on a debate stage again. He'll just stay in the race like a petulant child, stealing votes from actual Democratic moderates in the hope that a brokered convention can save him. But it can't.
What you people have consistently refused to understand is that the Sanders voting block is the second largest voting demographic in this country behind Trump supporters. And it's growing and continues to grow as people start to realize that he actually could win. People love Sanders. They love that he's been true to his message his whole life, that he can't be bought, and that he stands up for the immigrants, the disenfranchised, and the working class against the big money that has controlled American politics for most of our history. The only thing that has ever stopped more people from voting for him is the fear that he can't win. But as his message continues to resonate and he keeps winning states, that fear is going away. They realize that he's got the most enthusiastic base in the Democratic Party and that they are the most loyal, while everybody else jumps from candidate to candidate hoping someone can stop him because they want to keep their taxes lower. But there is no white knight coming to save you. Candidates will continue peeling off as they run out of money and all that will be left will be a petulant Bloomberg who will refuse to concede like Tulsi, while avoiding the debate stage for fear of a repeat of tonight and hoping the Never Berners will come back to him. But now there are also a lot of Never Bloomers now that they realize he's a fraud.
Even if somehow you could get to the convention, get your brokered convention, and deny the will of the majority of the voters of your party, it would be a Pyrrhic victory. As I told you, Sanders has the second largest voting demographic in the field. It's true that he can't win without your moderate votes. But you can't win without Sanders supporters and in that game of chicken, Sanders supporters win. Many of us will vote for someone who wins a majority of pledged delegates. We talk about it all the time. There are some Bernie or Bust folks, but they're not the majority. You think that the Twitter trolls represent all Sanders voters, but you've never met actual Sanders supporters in real life. If you'd been to the rally in Richmond, you would have seen how utterly normal and diverse they are. And you would have seen just how enthusiastic they are for Sanders. But they hate Trump just as much as you do. In a fair loss, they will ultimately rally around the winner and get Trump out. You **** them over and they will **** you worse. The math is either 4 more years of Trump and a new progressive going for the nomination or a potential 8 years of a crooked DNC getting what they tried to sell their soul for and failed miserably at tonight. They will take the 4 years and say **** you to the DNC.
Warren and Buttigieg have the money to stay in the race for a while. Biden still has some national standing in the polls, but after Super Tuesday he may just look like Mr. Third Place. Klobuchar needs some decent finishes or New Hampshire will become irrelevant, she'll run out of money, and be gone. If any of you soul-selling idiots have a shred of Democratic values in you, you will throw your support behind Biden or Klobuchar, both of whom like you upper-middle-class types a lot and have the experience to do the job at a much higher level than Trump can, but will appoint federal judges that will stand for what you stand. Maybe you'll even decide you can stomach Warren's progressive leanings and get behind her if she outlasts Klobuchar. Some of you will still fall for Buttigieg's strong speaking skills and excuse him for having no actual federal governing experience, but his negative and his continued lying about having the support of blacks will ultimately kill him. I'd provide the link, but I'm so unconcerned about him I don't need to bother. Go look it up yourself if you want.
Someone other than Sanders needs to win South Carolina or it's all over by Super Tuesday. And I mean completely over.
Three things: 1. I'm tired of all the pro bernie people using 'the hill' as a news source, they are as biased and slanted as fox news. Stop acting like they are a legitimate news source because they arent.
2. My big hang up on bernie is his opposition to free trade and support for protectionist policies. I want the us to enter the tpp. I think it makes the world a safer place and america a safer place and improves my life.
3. That said, I am on team vote blue no matter who.
The trade thing is my biggest hangup with Bernie. I get why it's politically expedient as a position, but it also seems like something that sounds good to working-class voters but doesn't actually help in the long run.
It's also not really a big difference with Trump so wouldn't affect my vote in the general election. It also seems like the kind of thing that can easily be reversed if conditions demand it.
Dems, get on the Bernie train already. Face the inevitable. Learn it. Live it. Love it.
I'm perfectly comfortable with Bernie as the nominee. Seems like he's a pretty strong campaigner. He has his weaknesses, but is good at minimizing them. I think the argument that he's "unelectable" doesn't hold up against the available evidence.
Bernie came across as an angry, unpleasant, old man. That appearance and demeanor won't serve him well in the general election campaign, if he gets that far. He needs to learn to calm down and smile once in awhile.
Dems, get on the Bernie train already. Face the inevitable. Learn it. Live it. Love it.
I'm perfectly comfortable with Bernie as the nominee. Seems like he's a pretty strong campaigner. He has his weaknesses, but is good at minimizing them. I think the argument that he's "unelectable" doesn't hold up against the available evidence.
Bernie came across as an angry, unpleasant, old man. That appearance and demeanor won't serve him well in the general election campaign, if he gets that far. He needs to learn to calm down and smile once in awhile.
Yes, the country that elected Donald Trump definitely would never elect an angry, unpleasant old man.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Michael Bloomberg emerge as the non-loony, level-headed one in the bunch. The one who can manage a large business, a large bureaucracy, and a large city. The one candidate who won't dislocate his shoulder while thrusting his arm up in favor of free health care for illegal border-crossers. Any attack on his left wing credentials can be cast away by reminding viewers he was the three-term mayor of New York City, not exactly conservative country.
Should be interesting.
Giuliani was also mayor of New York city. So being mayor of NY doesn't exactly say anything about what you are going to do for the nation.
Dems, get on the Bernie train already. Face the inevitable. Learn it. Live it. Love it.
I'm perfectly comfortable with Bernie as the nominee. Seems like he's a pretty strong campaigner. He has his weaknesses, but is good at minimizing them. I think the argument that he's "unelectable" doesn't hold up against the available evidence.
Bernie came across as an angry, unpleasant, old man. That appearance and demeanor won't serve him well in the general election campaign, if he gets that far. He needs to learn to calm down and smile once in awhile.
Yes, the country that elected Donald Trump definitely would never elect an angry, unpleasant old man.
You may not like Trump and the barbs he throws at his opponents, but at least he smiles and jokes in his appearances. Bernie just wildly waves his right hand incessantly (sometimes both hands), frowns, and yells continuously. An angry old fart who has no sense of humor is not who I want for a President. And his extreme and socialist ideas will never appeal to independents and moderates--a necessity for being elected.
Dems, get on the Bernie train already. Face the inevitable. Learn it. Live it. Love it.
I'm perfectly comfortable with Bernie as the nominee. Seems like he's a pretty strong campaigner. He has his weaknesses, but is good at minimizing them. I think the argument that he's "unelectable" doesn't hold up against the available evidence.
Bernie came across as an angry, unpleasant, old man. That appearance and demeanor won't serve him well in the general election campaign, if he gets that far. He needs to learn to calm down and smile once in awhile.
Yes, the country that elected Donald Trump definitely would never elect an angry, unpleasant old man.
You may not like Trump and the barbs he throws at his opponents, but at least he smiles and jokes in his appearances. Bernie just wildly waves his right hand incessantly (sometimes both hands), frowns, and yells continuously. An angry old fart who has no sense of humor is not who I want for a President. And his extreme and socialist ideas will never appeal to independents and moderates--a necessity for being elected.
You must have a terrible radar. Warren creeps you out and you think Trump comes across as amiable? You seem like the guy who can't see psycho in the eyes of others.
Dems, get on the Bernie train already. Face the inevitable. Learn it. Live it. Love it.
I'm perfectly comfortable with Bernie as the nominee. Seems like he's a pretty strong campaigner. He has his weaknesses, but is good at minimizing them. I think the argument that he's "unelectable" doesn't hold up against the available evidence.
Bernie came across as an angry, unpleasant, old man. That appearance and demeanor won't serve him well in the general election campaign, if he gets that far. He needs to learn to calm down and smile once in awhile.
Yes, the country that elected Donald Trump definitely would never elect an angry, unpleasant old man.
You may not like Trump and the barbs he throws at his opponents, but at least he smiles and jokes in his appearances. Bernie just wildly waves his right hand incessantly (sometimes both hands), frowns, and yells continuously. An angry old fart who has no sense of humor is not who I want for a President. And his extreme and socialist ideas will never appeal to independents and moderates--a necessity for being elected.
You must have a terrible radar. Warren creeps you out and you think Trump comes across as amiable? You seem like the guy who can't see psycho in the eyes of others.
I find Bernie fairly amiable. Not in debates, but in interviews and such he seems like a kind of charming curmudgeon to me.
I'm moving to Dingle to live out my days catching dog fish, conger eel and gurnard and regaling the locals with tales of the old days on BearInsider. I may even join the Sinn Fein Revolution sweeping the Republic.
Had a high school classmate who did just that years ago....A writer. I enjoy his writings immensely but in the thread is him sounding more Irish than the Irish. So be careful bearister.
Dems, get on the Bernie train already. Face the inevitable. Learn it. Live it. Love it.
I'm perfectly comfortable with Bernie as the nominee. Seems like he's a pretty strong campaigner. He has his weaknesses, but is good at minimizing them. I think the argument that he's "unelectable" doesn't hold up against the available evidence.
Bernie came across as an angry, unpleasant, old man. That appearance and demeanor won't serve him well in the general election campaign, if he gets that far. He needs to learn to calm down and smile once in awhile.
Yes, the country that elected Donald Trump definitely would never elect an angry, unpleasant old man.
You may not like Trump and the barbs he throws at his opponents, but at least he smiles and jokes in his appearances. Bernie just wildly waves his right hand incessantly (sometimes both hands), frowns, and yells continuously. An angry old fart who has no sense of humor is not who I want for a President. And his extreme and socialist ideas will never appeal to independents and moderates--a necessity for being elected.
You must have a terrible radar. Warren creeps you out and you think Trump comes across as amiable? You seem like the guy who can't see psycho in the eyes of others.
I find Bernie fairly amiable. Not in debates, but in interviews and such he seems like a kind of charming curmudgeon to me.
Also let's not forget, there's a likely chance that Trump and Sanders will never be in the same room* before the election.
(*The only thing other than the debates that I can see them coming together for is the roast/Catholic dinner fundraiser thing that the candidates usually attend shortly before election day.)
Dems, get on the Bernie train already. Face the inevitable. Learn it. Live it. Love it.
I'm perfectly comfortable with Bernie as the nominee. Seems like he's a pretty strong campaigner. He has his weaknesses, but is good at minimizing them. I think the argument that he's "unelectable" doesn't hold up against the available evidence.
Bernie came across as an angry, unpleasant, old man. That appearance and demeanor won't serve him well in the general election campaign, if he gets that far. He needs to learn to calm down and smile once in awhile.
Yes, the country that elected Donald Trump definitely would never elect an angry, unpleasant old man.
You may not like Trump and the barbs he throws at his opponents, but at least he smiles and jokes in his appearances. Bernie just wildly waves his right hand incessantly (sometimes both hands), frowns, and yells continuously. An angry old fart who has no sense of humor is not who I want for a President. And his extreme and socialist ideas will never appeal to independents and moderates--a necessity for being elected.
The proof is in the pudding. A lot of people love the guy. If they found him so off-putting, he wouldn't have gotten this far.
Many found Bill Clinton disgusting.
Many found Obama off-putting (many conservatives saw Obama the way liberals see Trump). It happens.
(I remember Cal alum Michelle Tafoya having an anti-Obama Twitter meltdown one day when he was having a brief press conference on something boring.)
While many reacted postively to Warren's attack on Bloomberg, one prominent liberal in Hollywood thought she was being "nasty."
Dems, get on the Bernie train already. Face the inevitable. Learn it. Live it. Love it.
I'm perfectly comfortable with Bernie as the nominee. Seems like he's a pretty strong campaigner. He has his weaknesses, but is good at minimizing them. I think the argument that he's "unelectable" doesn't hold up against the available evidence.
Bernie came across as an angry, unpleasant, old man. That appearance and demeanor won't serve him well in the general election campaign, if he gets that far. He needs to learn to calm down and smile once in awhile.
Yes, the country that elected Donald Trump definitely would never elect an angry, unpleasant old man.
You may not like Trump and the barbs he throws at his opponents, but at least he smiles and jokes in his appearances. Bernie just wildly waves his right hand incessantly (sometimes both hands), frowns, and yells continuously. An angry old fart who has no sense of humor is not who I want for a President. And his extreme and socialist ideas will never appeal to independents and moderates--a necessity for being elected.
You must have a terrible radar. Warren creeps you out and you think Trump comes across as amiable? You seem like the guy who can't see psycho in the eyes of others.
I did not say that Trump comes across as "amiable". But Bernie Sanders is certainly not amiable. If you think he comes across that way, you're totally blind. He is just an angry old man who wants to tear everything down. It's sad that the Democrat stable is so bare that they might well nominate an angry old man who isn't even a Democrat!
Dems, get on the Bernie train already. Face the inevitable. Learn it. Live it. Love it.
I'm perfectly comfortable with Bernie as the nominee. Seems like he's a pretty strong campaigner. He has his weaknesses, but is good at minimizing them. I think the argument that he's "unelectable" doesn't hold up against the available evidence.
Bernie came across as an angry, unpleasant, old man. That appearance and demeanor won't serve him well in the general election campaign, if he gets that far. He needs to learn to calm down and smile once in awhile.
Yes, the country that elected Donald Trump definitely would never elect an angry, unpleasant old man.
You may not like Trump and the barbs he throws at his opponents, but at least he smiles and jokes in his appearances. Bernie just wildly waves his right hand incessantly (sometimes both hands), frowns, and yells continuously. An angry old fart who has no sense of humor is not who I want for a President. And his extreme and socialist ideas will never appeal to independents and moderates--a necessity for being elected.
The proof is in the pudding. A lot of people love the guy. If they found him so off-putting, he wouldn't have gotten this far.
Many found Bill Clinton disgusting.
Many found Obama off-putting (many conservatives saw Obama the way liberals see Trump). It happens.
Besides, Bernie does have a sense of humor.
Thank you for recognizing such. I can completely understand how people of opposite political persuasion can completely despise Trump. There is nothing but his policies (most) that I like about the man.
But Clinton, as charming on the surface, was scuzzy. Obama, as smart as he appeared, always gave the feeling that he was undermining everything he could in his eight years such that America would never be the same, while smiling and being congenial.
It boils down to whose team you are on as to what you tolerated and justify. Trumps personality is a very tough sell even to his party members.
...Obama as smart as he appeared, always gave the feeling that he was undermining everything he could in his eight years...
...and since we are on the subject of undermining...
Here's John Boehner offering his plans for Obama's agenda: "We're going to do everything and I mean everything we can do to kill it, stop it, slow it down, whatever we can." Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell summed up his plan to National Journal: "The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president." Politico, 10/28/2010
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Dems, get on the Bernie train already. Face the inevitable. Learn it. Live it. Love it.
I'm perfectly comfortable with Bernie as the nominee. Seems like he's a pretty strong campaigner. He has his weaknesses, but is good at minimizing them. I think the argument that he's "unelectable" doesn't hold up against the available evidence.
Bernie came across as an angry, unpleasant, old man. That appearance and demeanor won't serve him well in the general election campaign, if he gets that far. He needs to learn to calm down and smile once in awhile.
Yes, the country that elected Donald Trump definitely would never elect an angry, unpleasant old man.
You may not like Trump and the barbs he throws at his opponents, but at least he smiles and jokes in his appearances. Bernie just wildly waves his right hand incessantly (sometimes both hands), frowns, and yells continuously. An angry old fart who has no sense of humor is not who I want for a President. And his extreme and socialist ideas will never appeal to independents and moderates--a necessity for being elected.
You must have a terrible radar. Warren creeps you out and you think Trump comes across as amiable? You seem like the guy who can't see psycho in the eyes of others.
I did not say that Trump comes across as "amiable". But Bernie Sanders is certainly not amiable. If you think he comes across that way, you're totally blind. He is just an angry old man who wants to tear everything down. It's sad that the Democrat stable is so bare that they might well nominate an angry old man who isn't even a Democrat!
Fellow Democrats and liberals . . .
There is no use in further talking with this brick wall. I suggest you focus your energy on people who might be persuadable.
Dems, get on the Bernie train already. Face the inevitable. Learn it. Live it. Love it.
I'm perfectly comfortable with Bernie as the nominee. Seems like he's a pretty strong campaigner. He has his weaknesses, but is good at minimizing them. I think the argument that he's "unelectable" doesn't hold up against the available evidence.
Bernie came across as an angry, unpleasant, old man. That appearance and demeanor won't serve him well in the general election campaign, if he gets that far. He needs to learn to calm down and smile once in awhile.
Yes, the country that elected Donald Trump definitely would never elect an angry, unpleasant old man.
You may not like Trump and the barbs he throws at his opponents, but at least he smiles and jokes in his appearances. Bernie just wildly waves his right hand incessantly (sometimes both hands), frowns, and yells continuously. An angry old fart who has no sense of humor is not who I want for a President. And his extreme and socialist ideas will never appeal to independents and moderates--a necessity for being elected.
You must have a terrible radar. Warren creeps you out and you think Trump comes across as amiable? You seem like the guy who can't see psycho in the eyes of others.
I did not say that Trump comes across as "amiable". But Bernie Sanders is certainly not amiable. If you think he comes across that way, you're totally blind. He is just an angry old man who wants to tear everything down. It's sad that the Democrat stable is so bare that they might well nominate an angry old man who isn't even a Democrat!
Fellow Democrats and liberals . . .
There is no use in further talking with this brick wall. I suggest you focus your energy on people who might be persuadable.
Typical response from you. When you have no intelligent response to a post you disagree with, you resort to name calling (i.e. calling me a brick wall). Nothing like an intolerant, angry liberal! Will you not even concede that Bernie Sanders is NOT a registered Democrat?
Dems, get on the Bernie train already. Face the inevitable. Learn it. Live it. Love it.
I'm perfectly comfortable with Bernie as the nominee. Seems like he's a pretty strong campaigner. He has his weaknesses, but is good at minimizing them. I think the argument that he's "unelectable" doesn't hold up against the available evidence.
Bernie came across as an angry, unpleasant, old man. That appearance and demeanor won't serve him well in the general election campaign, if he gets that far. He needs to learn to calm down and smile once in awhile.
Yes, the country that elected Donald Trump definitely would never elect an angry, unpleasant old man.
You may not like Trump and the barbs he throws at his opponents, but at least he smiles and jokes in his appearances. Bernie just wildly waves his right hand incessantly (sometimes both hands), frowns, and yells continuously. An angry old fart who has no sense of humor is not who I want for a President. And his extreme and socialist ideas will never appeal to independents and moderates--a necessity for being elected.
You must have a terrible radar. Warren creeps you out and you think Trump comes across as amiable? You seem like the guy who can't see psycho in the eyes of others.
I did not say that Trump comes across as "amiable". But Bernie Sanders is certainly not amiable. If you think he comes across that way, you're totally blind. He is just an angry old man who wants to tear everything down. It's sad that the Democrat stable is so bare that they might well nominate an angry old man who isn't even a Democrat!
Fellow Democrats and liberals . . .
There is no use in further talking with this brick wall. I suggest you focus your energy on people who might be persuadable.
Typical response from you. When you have no intelligent response to a post you disagree with, you resort to name calling (i.e. calling me a brick wall). Nothing like an intolerant, angry liberal! Will you not even concede that Bernie Sanders is NOT a registered Democrat?
Excuse me, but didn't you say I must be "totally blind" in my assessment of Sanders as amiable? Physician, heal thyself.
It is a factual statement that Bernie Sanders is officially registered as an Independent. For the nearly 30 years he's spent in Congress (House & Senate) he has functionally been a Democrat, both in his voting record and committee assignments. As a result, the great majority of Democratic voters seem to not care about this technicality.
Typical response from you. When you have no intelligent response to a post you disagree with, you resort to name calling (i.e. calling me a brick wall). Nothing like an intolerant, angry liberal! Will you not even concede that Bernie Sanders is NOT a registered Democrat?
Excuse me, but didn't you say I must be "totally blind" in my assessment of Sanders as amiable? Physician, heal thyself.
It is a factual statement that Bernie Sanders is officially registered as an Independent. For the nearly 30 years he's spent in Congress (House & Senate) he has functionally been a Democrat, both in his voting record and committee assignments. As a result, the great majority of Democratic voters seem to not care about this technicality.
I did not call you a name. Blind is a condition and an adjective, not a noun. Names are generally nouns (i.e. wall).
I wonder why Bernie is ashamed to call himself a Democrat? Is there a message for us there?
One thing Elizabeth Warren is good at is taking down privileged *******s. Not only Bloomberg but watch her destruction of the Wells Fargo ******* . It's a pity she's never understood what she's good at.
I'm not sure what Bernie could pass through congress even with owning majorities in both houses. He's further apart from his party on policy than Trump was with Republicans.
I'm not sure what Bernie could pass through congress even with owning majorities in both houses. He's further apart from his party on policy than Trump was with Republicans.
His supporters aren't going to stop voting after 2020 you know.
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