hanky1 said:

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bearister said:

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I was taught in grammar school by nuns that you had to have knowledge of all the facts on a contested issue, both supporting and opposing, before you were entitled to have an opinion that was worth serious consideration.

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I agree. So that disqualifies Fauci from ever speaking about COVID. Good. I was getting sick of that guy.

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Big C said:

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hanky1 said:

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bearister said:

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hanky1 said:

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bearister said:

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I was taught in grammar school by nuns that you had to have knowledge of all the facts on a contested issue, both supporting and opposing, before you were entitled to have an opinion that was worth serious consideration.

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I agree. So that disqualifies Fauci from ever speaking about COVID. Good. I was getting sick of that guy.

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Yeah, something like that. AR has a conflict of interest. He just wants to play football. The NFL has a significant percentage of Black players. Most of the players that are on the line are by definition obese. Do you think if some of them get seriously ill or die because of contracting COVID 19 that Richard Sherman's allegation of White NFL owners having a "plantation mentality" towards the players may rear it's head again?

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Fauci also has a conflict of interest. The more he screams lockdown, the more the media and some folks worship him like he's a hero without question or thought. I'm watching TV right now and there's a freakin tv commercial thanking Fauci from CBS. Lol. Propaganda man.

See? We all have self interest motive.

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Huge difference between "screaming lockdown" (he never did that) and warning that if we open up too fast and without proper caution, it might well trigger a second wave (it might well and people need to know that).

I basically agree with you on this issue, until you start saying stupid stuff about it. But hey, you entertained me enough to respond and that's what it's all about, I guess, right?

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hanky1 said:

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...I love this guy. He has some common sense.

"Yeah that's a good question. Like many of us, and I've seen a lot of comments on this, and obviously my story coming back from Peru before the countryfreedo kind of went into a lockdown, I think we all were buying into the idea of quarantine to flatten the curve.

"I think there are a lot of questions now that it's more of a house arrest to find a cure with people wondering what exactly that means as far as the future of the country and the freedoms we are allowed to have at this point."

https://sports.yahoo.com/aaron-rodgers-packers-coronavirus-isolation-house-arrest-nfl-225744324.html

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bearister said:

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hanky1 said:

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bearister said:

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I was taught in grammar school by nuns that you had to have knowledge of all the facts on a contested issue, both supporting and opposing, before you were entitled to have an opinion that was worth serious consideration.

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I agree. So that disqualifies Fauci from ever speaking about COVID. Good. I was getting sick of that guy.

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Yeah, something like that. AR has a conflict of interest. He just wants to play football. The NFL has a significant percentage of Black players. Most of the players that are on the line are by definition obese. Do you think if some of them get seriously ill or die because of contracting COVID 19 that Richard Sherman's allegation of White NFL owners having a "plantation mentality" towards the players may rear it's head again?

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okaydo said:

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hanky1 is the Matt Leinart of coronavirus information.

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CALiforniALUM said:

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bearister said:

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hanky1 said:

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bearister said:

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I was taught in grammar school by nuns that you had to have knowledge of all the facts on a contested issue, both supporting and opposing, before you were entitled to have an opinion that was worth serious consideration.

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I agree. So that disqualifies Fauci from ever speaking about COVID. Good. I was getting sick of that guy.

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Yeah, something like that. AR has a conflict of interest. He just wants to play football. The NFL has a significant percentage of Black players. Most of the players that are on the line are by definition obese. Do you think if some of them get seriously ill or die because of contracting COVID 19 that Richard Sherman's allegation of White NFL owners having a "plantation mentality" towards the players may rear it's head again?

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Whoa there brotha. Slow your roll and take knee. Just don't take it during the National Anthem, ok? You read me boy?

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hanky1 said:

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okaydo said:

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hanky1 is the Matt Leinart of coronavirus information.

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Leinart is one of the greatest collegiate QBs of all time. Even better than Rodgers.

Thanks okaydo. I had no idea you held me on such high regard.

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BearGoggles said:

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CalBarn said:

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hanky1 said:

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bearister said:

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hanky1 said:

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bearister said:

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I was taught in grammar school by nuns that you had to have knowledge of all the facts on a contested issue, both supporting and opposing, before you were entitled to have an opinion that was worth serious consideration.

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I agree. So that disqualifies Fauci from ever speaking about COVID. Good. I was getting sick of that guy.

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Yeah, something like that. AR has a conflict of interest. He just wants to play football. The NFL has a significant percentage of Black players. Most of the players that are on the line are by definition obese. Do you think if some of them get seriously ill or die because of contracting COVID 19 that Richard Sherman's allegation of White NFL owners having a "plantation mentality" towards the players may rear it's head again?

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Fauci also has a conflict of interest. The more he screams lockdown, the more the media and some folks worship him like he's a hero without question or thought. I'm watching TV right now and there's a freakin tv commercial thanking Fauci from CBS. Lol. Propaganda man.

See? We all have self interest motive.

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You might not agree with everything he says, but it is refreshing to hear someone who has studied
and researched and spent a lifetime learning talk about issues that he obviously knows
something about. That's what I loved about going to Cal back in the day when I was attending.
Quite different listening to our "leader" who constantly lies, contradicts himself weekly, embarrasses
himself with sophomoric misinformation, not to mention the juvenile attacks and smears he routinely passes out to anyone who doesn't worship at his feet. Oh wait, let's see, I should rest assured regarding his
judgment since he told us all he has great "hunches".....not to mention an uncle who was a renowned
professor. Not to worry. Except unfortunately he's the same guy who told us at the end of February
that we had 15 coronavirus cases in the US and they would soon go away because he had done such a good job of containing it. Now that we've had over a million and a half cases and are approaching 100,000
deaths in this country, I'm beginning to think we just can't trust this guy's hunches anymore.
Not that we ever could.

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Fauci is a public health/disease control expert. By his own admission, he's not an expert on economics and doesn't really consider economics in his recommendations.

As I said at the outset of this, if you put a sick patient in front of a doctor like Fauci, they want to save the patient, regardless of the cost. And for doctors, that is a good thing - the type of doctor I would want to see.

The problem is that in formulating public policy, you have to consider both health impacts as well as cost/economics. Putting aside the fact that much of his early advice/predictions was incorrect, Fauci's advice isn't gospel; its just a part of the total picture.

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BearGoggles said:

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CalBarn said:

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hanky1 said:

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bearister said:

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hanky1 said:

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bearister said:

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I was taught in grammar school by nuns that you had to have knowledge of all the facts on a contested issue, both supporting and opposing, before you were entitled to have an opinion that was worth serious consideration.

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I agree. So that disqualifies Fauci from ever speaking about COVID. Good. I was getting sick of that guy.

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Yeah, something like that. AR has a conflict of interest. He just wants to play football. The NFL has a significant percentage of Black players. Most of the players that are on the line are by definition obese. Do you think if some of them get seriously ill or die because of contracting COVID 19 that Richard Sherman's allegation of White NFL owners having a "plantation mentality" towards the players may rear it's head again?

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Fauci also has a conflict of interest. The more he screams lockdown, the more the media and some folks worship him like he's a hero without question or thought. I'm watching TV right now and there's a freakin tv commercial thanking Fauci from CBS. Lol. Propaganda man.

See? We all have self interest motive.

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You might not agree with everything he says, but it is refreshing to hear someone who has studied
and researched and spent a lifetime learning talk about issues that he obviously knows
something about. That's what I loved about going to Cal back in the day when I was attending.
Quite different listening to our "leader" who constantly lies, contradicts himself weekly, embarrasses
himself with sophomoric misinformation, not to mention the juvenile attacks and smears he routinely passes out to anyone who doesn't worship at his feet. Oh wait, let's see, I should rest assured regarding his
judgment since he told us all he has great "hunches".....not to mention an uncle who was a renowned
professor. Not to worry. Except unfortunately he's the same guy who told us at the end of February
that we had 15 coronavirus cases in the US and they would soon go away because he had done such a good job of containing it. Now that we've had over a million and a half cases and are approaching 100,000
deaths in this country, I'm beginning to think we just can't trust this guy's hunches anymore.
Not that we ever could.

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Fauci is a public health/disease control expert. By his own admission, he's not an expert on economics and doesn't really consider economics in his recommendations.

As I said at the outset of this, if you put a sick patient in front of a doctor like Fauci, they want to save the patient, regardless of the cost. And for doctors, that is a good thing - the type of doctor I would want to see.

The problem is that in formulating public policy, you have to consider both health impacts as well as cost/economics. Putting aside the fact that much of his early advice/predictions was incorrect, Fauci's advice isn't gospel; its just a part of the total picture.

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BearGoggles said:

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CalBarn said:

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hanky1 said:

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bearister said:

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hanky1 said:

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bearister said:

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I was taught in grammar school by nuns that you had to have knowledge of all the facts on a contested issue, both supporting and opposing, before you were entitled to have an opinion that was worth serious consideration.

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I agree. So that disqualifies Fauci from ever speaking about COVID. Good. I was getting sick of that guy.

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Yeah, something like that. AR has a conflict of interest. He just wants to play football. The NFL has a significant percentage of Black players. Most of the players that are on the line are by definition obese. Do you think if some of them get seriously ill or die because of contracting COVID 19 that Richard Sherman's allegation of White NFL owners having a "plantation mentality" towards the players may rear it's head again?

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Fauci also has a conflict of interest. The more he screams lockdown, the more the media and some folks worship him like he's a hero without question or thought. I'm watching TV right now and there's a freakin tv commercial thanking Fauci from CBS. Lol. Propaganda man.

See? We all have self interest motive.

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You might not agree with everything he says, but it is refreshing to hear someone who has studied
and researched and spent a lifetime learning talk about issues that he obviously knows
something about. That's what I loved about going to Cal back in the day when I was attending.
Quite different listening to our "leader" who constantly lies, contradicts himself weekly, embarrasses
himself with sophomoric misinformation, not to mention the juvenile attacks and smears he routinely passes out to anyone who doesn't worship at his feet. Oh wait, let's see, I should rest assured regarding his
judgment since he told us all he has great "hunches".....not to mention an uncle who was a renowned
professor. Not to worry. Except unfortunately he's the same guy who told us at the end of February
that we had 15 coronavirus cases in the US and they would soon go away because he had done such a good job of containing it. Now that we've had over a million and a half cases and are approaching 100,000
deaths in this country, I'm beginning to think we just can't trust this guy's hunches anymore.
Not that we ever could.

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Fauci is a public health/disease control expert. By his own admission, he's not an expert on economics and doesn't really consider economics in his recommendations.

As I said at the outset of this, if you put a sick patient in front of a doctor like Fauci, they want to save the patient, regardless of the cost. And for doctors, that is a good thing - the type of doctor I would want to see.

The problem is that in formulating public policy, you have to consider both health impacts as well as cost/economics. Putting aside the fact that much of his early advice/predictions was incorrect, Fauci's advice isn't gospel; its just a part of the total picture.

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hanky1 said:

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bearister said:

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I'd be interested in his opinions about brain surgery and quantum physics as well.

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Those are actual sciences that require an education to have an opinion.

You don't need an education to comment on matters of public policy.

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hanky1 said:

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bearister said:

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hanky1 said:

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bearister said:

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I was taught in grammar school by nuns that you had to have knowledge of all the facts on a contested issue, both supporting and opposing, before you were entitled to have an opinion that was worth serious consideration.

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I agree. So that disqualifies Fauci from ever speaking about COVID. Good. I was getting sick of that guy.

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Yeah, something like that. AR has a conflict of interest. He just wants to play football. The NFL has a significant percentage of Black players. Most of the players that are on the line are by definition obese. Do you think if some of them get seriously ill or die because of contracting COVID 19 that Richard Sherman's allegation of White NFL owners having a "plantation mentality" towards the players may rear it's head again?

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Fauci also has a conflict of interest. The more he screams lockdown, the more the media and some folks worship him like he's a hero without question or thought. I'm watching TV right now and there's a freakin tv commercial thanking Fauci from CBS. Lol. Propaganda man.

See? We all have self interest motive.

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BancroftBear93 said:

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GivemTheAxe said:

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hanky1 said:

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bearister said:

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hanky1 said:

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bearister said:

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I was taught in grammar school by nuns that you had to have knowledge of all the facts on a contested issue, both supporting and opposing, before you were entitled to have an opinion that was worth serious consideration.

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I agree. So that disqualifies Fauci from ever speaking about COVID. Good. I was getting sick of that guy.

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Yeah, something like that. AR has a conflict of interest. He just wants to play football. The NFL has a significant percentage of Black players. Most of the players that are on the line are by definition obese. Do you think if some of them get seriously ill or die because of contracting COVID 19 that Richard Sherman's allegation of White NFL owners having a "plantation mentality" towards the players may rear it's head again?

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Fauci also has a conflict of interest. The more he screams lockdown, the more the media and some folks worship him like he's a hero without question or thought. I'm watching TV right now and there's a freakin tv commercial thanking Fauci from CBS. Lol. Propaganda man.

See? We all have self interest motive.

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I think you misunderstand the meaning of "conflict of interest". The conflict of interest problem arises when BEFORE a person addresses a particular issue, that person has an interest in the result or conclusion coming out a certain way so as as to cast doubt on the impartiality of the process.

The fact that Fauci has become famous as a result of his conclusion does not cast doubt on the impartiality of his decisions. He could just hace easily become famous coming to the contrary conclusion. In fact Trump would clearly have made him more famous if he had.

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Yeah, sure thing, buddy. Fauci, whose lifelong professional existence is predicated on the threat of pandemics, has no incentive to hype the threat of a pandemic. It's like asking Mr. Hammer "hey, does this look like a nail?" and expecting him to say, "Nah, nothing for me to do here." lol The mental gymnastics that some people perform to avoid acknowledging the obvious is a sight to behold.

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