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Big C
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tequila4kapp;842304536 said:

Just think how much worse the team and transfers would be if their HC wasn't AA and able to relate to the players...


1-2 practices (or weeks, whichever comes first) and the aura of that meet-n-greet with the prez has disipated
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I try to remember that the shockster, (the name that I coined on him) is a Bear.

For me, that is all I give him cuz I am not on board with his constant personal proclamations.

Go Bears ...............Get better.
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BeggarEd;842304679 said:

Glad to see you are a dedicated Chance the rapper fan, and not just a dumbazz "radio fan" who just downloads a few MP3s and never sees him live. I just got back from 4 days in Tahoe so I'll be working late tonight to get caught up.

No Warfield tonight for me. Watch your step outside the venue tonight as I walk by there every morning on the way to work, and those piles of poop on the sidewalk ain't from dogs.

#differentstrokesfordifferentfolks


eddie, do you work at the crazyhorse?
LOUMFSG2
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Shocky, please tell me they're not really thinking of hiring Mooney over TD. Please.
Shocky1
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if cal wasn't the #1 ranked public university in the world with challenging academics for our student athletes, this is what my recommended coaching staff would look like...all of them would be tremendous recruiters



mooney the mediocre, nancy drew, mack the truck, shaka smart, chaka kahn, mark few, mark more, the miller bros, the marshall plan & kickin' josh pasternack have all built their reps by recuiting dumb azz 2.5 gpa ballers & winning games

the last half a century of cal bb has proven that recruiting/retaining low gpa players will not be a successful strategy in berkeley

the skillset for the next bears staff should include:
*****high character individuals with proven track records of doing things the right way
*****successful recruiters who understand the academic challenges at cal & can relentlessly identify, recruit & retain true student athletes
*****off the charts energy...college bb coaching with its 100+ aau/hs games a yr targeting recruits is best suited to youthful candidates...nobody over 50 with an aarp card is an ideal candidate
*****style of play...bears need to play more up tempo to attract elite players & sell tixs
*****charismatic

with this in mind, my recommended cal bb staff includes:
*****travis decuire, head coach-recommended salary of $950,000, td made $172,000 & montgomery made $1,920,000 in 2012
*****ken bone or justin labagh, associate head coach (blaine taylor is not a good cal fit)-recommended salary of $200,000
*****gregg gottlieb-recommended salary of $175,000, made $166,000 in 2012
*****theo robertson, assistant coach-recommended salary of $135,000
*****john montgomery, director of bb operations-recommended salary of $130,000, made $127,000 in 2012
*****scott thom, s&c (spends more time with the players than the coaches because of ncca regs), recommended salary of $85,000, made an under market value $60,000 in 2012


let's roll#



chris mooney has almost zero west coast hs & aau recruiting relationships, his teams have been a mediocre 54-45 the last 3 seasons & the princetown offense is better suited to a roster of 13 jeff powers than cal's current athletic elite targeted prospects

john wilton is seeking a more "experienced" (white) candidate

sandy barbour is telling some donors that she's now all in with travis but telling other donors at late as last week that she's not sure that td is ready to be cal's next bb hc

nicky d is just working on his twerking
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Shocky1;842304996 said:

sandy barbour is telling some donors that she's now all in with travis but telling other donors at late as last week that she's not sure that td is ready to be cal's next bb hc


Is this why they haven't pulled the trigger?
TheSouseFamily
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UCBerkGrad;842304997 said:

Is this why they haven't pulled the trigger?


If we don't have an AD that makes these types of decisions, why do we have an AD?
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thesousefamily;842304998 said:

if we don't have an ad that makes these types of decisions, why do we have an ad?


+1000
socaltownie
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I went two days without calling sandy an idiot. I believe my time out can now be officially over. Just sad. My father is rolling over in his grave. If we hire this guy cal is dead to me.
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socaltownie;842305001 said:

I went two days without calling sandy an idiot. I believe my time out can now be officially over. Just sad. My father is rolling over in his grave. If we hire this guy cal is dead to me.


Now I REALLY want Sandy to hire TD.
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socaltownie;842305001 said:

I went two days without calling sandy an idiot. I believe my time out can now be officially over. Just sad. My father is rolling over in his grave. If we hire this guy cal is dead to me.


Why are you so opposed to hiring TD? I certainly have reservations about hiring anyone without HC experience. Just curious if there's more.
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tequila4kapp;842305011 said:

Why are you so opposed to hiring TD? I certainly have reservations about hiring anyone without HC experience. Just curious if there's more.


I believe he is talking about Chris Mooney, not Travis.
UCBerkGrad
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DrDanger;842305012 said:

I believe he is talking about Chris Mooney, not Travis.


Ah, that makes more sense. If so, then I kinda agree with him.
socaltownie
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DrDanger;842305012 said:

I believe he is talking about Chris Mooney, not Travis.


Yes if they hire Mooney. We can expect multiple transfers and perhaps a zero and eighteen PAC 12 campaign. You thought football was bad? This will be worse. Much worse.
tsubamoto2001
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tequila4kapp;842305011 said:

Why are you so opposed to hiring TD? I certainly have reservations about hiring anyone without HC experience. Just curious if there's more.


Having reservations about hiring a guy without HC experience doesn't make sense for Cal. The pool of coaches for this job has not been good. Would you rather hire a guy you know will suck versus a guy who has not had that proven yet, I'll go for the guy that hasn't had the opportunity yet. At least you have hope and there is an upside. Hiring mediocrity or worse is simply stupid. And in relation to this job, TD is set up to have a baseline level of success. He's knowledgeable about the quirks and nuances of running the show at this particular institution. Monty, who knows what he's doing, recommended the guy and put his butt on the line in doing so. There isn't any other logical choice based on the pool of candidates. Just hire TD already.
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It does seem that the good and experienced alternatives have not panned out. On that basis I am in for Decuire. Worried, yes. But of the plausible alternatives, he seems to be the best on tap. I wonder whether it is his leadership capabilities that are in question by the administration. Shocky has commented on how soft spoken he is. Do we know of other great coaches who were soft spoken? Leadership abilities are important.
TheSouseFamily
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Bearprof;842305025 said:

It does seem that the good and experienced alternatives have not panned out. On that basis I am in for Decuire. Worried, yes. But of the plausible alternatives, he seems to be the best on tap. I wonder whether it is his leadership capabilities that are in question by the administration. Shocky has commented on how soft spoken he is. Do we know of other great coaches who were soft spoken? Leadership abilities are important.


Well, John Wooden was one. Soft-spoken but firm.
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"john wilton is seeking a more "experienced" (white) candidate"

No one even commented on this post.
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DrDanger;842305012 said:

I believe he is talking about Chris Mooney, not Travis.


What happened to the weekend thought that TD with Ken Bone assisting was happening?
Are we really back to looking to hire a white stiff?
Cal Geek
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Bobodeluxe;842305032 said:

"john wilton is seeking a more "experienced" (white) candidate"

No one even commented on this post.


Well, is John Wilton really seeking a white candidate?
Or is he really seeking one with more head coaching experience?
I would think it is that latter.

One problem here is that most candidates with head coaching experience are white. But to add (white) in parenthesis may not be at all fair to John Wilton.
socaltownie
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Cal Geek;842305037 said:

Well, is John Wilton really seeking a white candidate?
Or is he really seeking one with more head coaching experience?
I would think it is that latter.

One problem here is that most candidates with head coaching experience are white. But to add (white) in parenthesis may not be at all fair to John Wilton.


All I know is that we have (supposedly) interviewed exactly ONE african american candidate....have NO african americans in head coaching jobs in the entire AD.....and have hired exactly ONE AA in a revenue sport in our entire history as an Institution.

If we screw this up Cal is dead to me. F telling my son to go there each and every day.. They will have proved just how small minded and Ivy league myopic and fixated they area. This is not my California.
socaltownie
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Bobodeluxe;842305032 said:

"john wilton is seeking a more "experienced" (white) candidate"

No one even commented on this post.


Because, sadly, I simply assume it is correct and it doesn't surprise me.
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socaltownie;842305045 said:

All I know is that we have (supposedly) interviewed exactly ONE african american candidate....have NO african americans in head coaching jobs in the entire AD.....and have hired exactly ONE AA in a revenue sport in our entire history as an Institution.

If we screw this up Cal is dead to me. F telling my son to go there each and every day.. They will have proved just how small minded and Ivy league myopic and fixated they area. This is not my California.


Call me naive but I really don't think race is even remotely a factor here.
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socaltownie;842305045 said:

All I know is that we have (supposedly) interviewed exactly ONE african american candidate....have NO african americans in head coaching jobs in the entire AD.....and have hired exactly ONE AA in a revenue sport in our entire history as an Institution.

If we screw this up Cal is dead to me. F telling my son to go there each and every day.. They will have proved just how small minded and Ivy league myopic and fixated they area. This is not my California.

Take a deep breath. It's pretty early in the morning for you to go all apoplectic.
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socaltownie;842305001 said:

I went two days without calling sandy an idiot. I believe my time out can now be officially over. Just sad. My father is rolling over in his grave. If we hire this guy cal is dead to me.

If this happens I stop going to games.
tsubamoto2001
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TheSouseFamily;842305047 said:

Call me naive but I really don't think race is even remotely a factor here.


When a candidate like Mooney surfaces, these uppity, privileged clowns are reaching. I'm tired of this sh1t!
NYCGOBEARS
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tsubamoto2001;842305067 said:



A part of me feels that if TD was white, he'd have this job locked up already.


Think about the implications of this statement.
tsubamoto2001
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NYCGOBEARS;842305068 said:

Think about the implications of this statement.


I'm overreacting a bit, but it's hard not to. This search is becoming a clown show.
socaliganbear
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NYCGOBEARS;842305068 said:

Think about the implications of this statement.


Don't try.
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tsubamoto2001;842305067 said:

Uh, sure it isn't. When a candidate like Mooney surfaces, these uppity, privileged clowns are reaching. I'm tired of this sh1t!

A part of me feels that if TD was white, he'd have this job locked up already.


It's like the 3 stooges are trying to find reasons NOT to hire DeCuire. It's bullsh*t.
tsubamoto2001
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I certainly hope race is not a factor on any level here, either consciously or subconsciously.

If the "powers that be" go with a guy like Mooney, they better understand that pointed questions will be hurled at them and they better be ready for it. I'm ready to go Public Enemy on them.
socaliganbear
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Do people realize Dirks' biggest hire to date is black? One if his few hires I might add.
socaltownie
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The latest rumors have:

TD - Out
Turner - Leading
Mooney - OUt
dark Horse coming on strong.....Lavin

;-)
bluesaxe
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socaltownie;842305080 said:

The latest rumors have:

TD - Out
Turner - Leading
Mooney - OUt
dark Horse coming on strong.....Lavin

;-)

Cool. So Travis is in.
tsubamoto2001
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socaltownie;842305080 said:

The latest rumors have:

TD - Out
Turner - Leading
Mooney - OUt
dark Horse coming on strong.....Lavin

;-)


Nuts.
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