USC/UCLA supposedly moving to Big Ten

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movielover
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Not sure why you're so keen on bashing the suburbs. Isn't crew a legit sport, tennis, golf?

New sports are on way... volleyball, cricket, and competitive gaming.
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Rushinbear said:

maxer said:

Rushinbear said:

I have asked before how you can claim that a sport is the most important when it doesn't test the most important skill - hand/eye coordination?
This is an odd metric to use, but I'l counter with another -- soccer is far and away the most popular sport in the entire world.

If hand/eye coordination was the most important thing about a sport, why isn't there, I don't know, competitive Jenga?


I'll grant you most popular, largely due to no cost and no land requirements (kids can play in the street).

Hand/eye is the most important ability in human life, not just sports.Sports are just the representation of life.


Since we appear to be correlating the importance of sports to life's usefulness, ultimate fighting is the hands down the most important sport. Next is competitive CPR.
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O.J. doesn't want to lose the Stanford rivalry.

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Dear UCLA Alumni:

For the past century, decisions about UCLA Athletics have always been guided by what is best for our student-athletes, first and foremost, and our fans. Our storied athletics program, based in one of the biggest media markets in the nation, has always had unique opportunities and faced unique challenges. In recent years, however, seismic changes in collegiate athletics have made us evaluate how best to support our student-athletes as we move forward. After careful consideration and thoughtful deliberation, UCLA has decided to leave the Pac-12 Conference and join the Big Ten Conference at the start of the 202425 season.

UCLA has deeply valued our membership in the Pac-12 for many years, and we intend to be a member of the conference for the next two years. We have grown close to the other member schools and have tremendous respect for their commitment to the student-athlete experience. The Pac-12 has always shared our values and continues to innovate, working hard on behalf of its student-athletes and many fans. At the same time, each school faces its own unique challenges and circumstances, and we believe this is the best move for UCLA at this time. For us, this move offers greater certainty in rapidly changing times and ensures that we remain a leader in college athletics for generations to come.

As the oldest NCAA Division I athletic conference in the United States and with a footprint that will now extend from the Pacific to the Atlantic, Big Ten membership offers Bruins exciting new competitive opportunities and a broader national media platform for our student-athletes to compete and showcase their talents. Specifically, this move will enhance Name, Image and Likeness opportunities through greater exposure for our student-athletes and offer new partnerships with entities across the country.

Entry into the Big Ten will also help ensure that UCLA preserves and maintains all 25 current teams and more than 700 student-athletes in our program. Additionally, it means enhanced resources for all of our teams, from academic support to mental health and wellness. And although this move increases travel distances for teams, the resources offered by Big Ten membership may allow for more efficient transportation options. We would also explore scheduling accommodations with the Big Ten that best support our student-athletes' academic pursuits.

For our fans, Big Ten membership equates to better television time slots for our road games, but the same number of home games either at the Rose Bowl, in Pauley Pavilion or other UCLA venues. We will make efforts to preserve our traditional regional rivalries and are pleased that our crosstown rival, USC, will also be joining the Big Ten in 202425. While we are fierce competitors on the field, we have a rich tradition of collaboration that we look forward to continuing.

We recognize these are big changes. We value the talent and dedication of our student-athletes as well as the passion of Bruins fans far and wide. The best way to respect that is to protect our program from the great uncertainty it would face if we did not make this transition. Because of our unique circumstances, we believe this is the right move for the UCLA Bruins and the right time. We hope you will share our enthusiasm as we take this step to preserve the legacy, tradition and high standards that have epitomized the UCLA Bruins for the century that has passed and the centuries that lie ahead.

Sincerely,

Gene D. Block
Chancellor

Martin Jarmond
The Alice and Nahum Lainer Family Director of Athletics
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Chapman_is_Gone said:

The construction of student housing on People's Park, while recently delayed by the courts but still set to begin this summer, should have a positive effect on the Telegraph area. Hopefully, The Man plans ahead and is smart enough to avoid the potential arson/tree sitter/terrorism challenges.

I do wonder, though, with People's Park gone, where I will buy my doses in the future.


Just stay with legal THC. There is a really posh, high end dispensary on Telegraph right where Blondies used to be.
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okaydo said:

O.J. doesn't want to lose the Stanford rivalry.


After seeing so many posts from USC, UCLA, and Stanford fans it begins to feel like we're the least valued California school to everybody
Grrrrah76
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Not only can OJ read, he can get away with killing two people (allegedly).
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eastcoastcal said:

okaydo said:

O.J. doesn't want to lose the Stanford rivalry.


After seeing so many posts from USC, UCLA, and Stanford fans it begins to feel like we're the least valued California school to everybody


USC and Stanford is more of a rivalry, but our devaluation by everyone else reflects the recent results. Stanford has been better, they have been a factor in the BCS. They have won the PAC-12 multiple times under the current coach. We extended and give raises to a coach that loses more conference games than he wins every year with one of the lowest scoring teams in the country and extended our basketball coach after finishing last with one of the lowest scoring teams in the country.

We really need to score points and win this Fall.
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movielover said:

Not sure why you're so keen on bashing the suburbs. Isn't crew a legit sport, tennis, golf?

New sports are on way... volleyball, cricket, and competitive gaming.
Not bashing the burbs, per se. Just the parents who try to find some way to get their kids schollies when their kids have put in the time neither to prepare themselves academically nor athletically. They find or invent a sport that few knew about and push their kids into it in 11th grade. More of those parents live in the burbs than elsewhere. Then, there are those few well-to-do who subsidize their kids' way in when it is learned that the kids did nothing even through sr year.

The irony is that in more and more colleges, the degrees resulting from such coddling are becoming worth less and less.

Just about all of those sports have some value, at least. And, those sports that are pursued rigorously have a lot.
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I'm really not sure there is a more important season in recent memory than the one before us. For our team, for the conference. For our future. We lay anything less than a winning record and - its probably over for our "big league" aspirations. We won't even be a thought, let alone an afterthought.
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Grrrrah76 said:

Not only can OJ read, he can get away with killing two people (allegedly).


"If the glove does not fit, you must acquit"......
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Crooked cop overreach.
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Size 12 Bruno Maglis & Nicole's secret letter - "if I die, OJ did it". Then OJs defacto poorly written confession and wild highway scene.
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Bobodeluxe said:

Crooked cop overreach.


The LAPD definitely planted evidence. That doesn't mean OJ is innocent, it was probably him, or possibly his son Jason, but the jury returned the correct verdict. After the Rampart scandal, hundreds of convictions we overturned.
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calumnus said:

Bobodeluxe said:

Crooked cop overreach.


The LAPD definitely planted evidence. That doesn't mean OJ is innocent, it was probably him, or possibly his son Jason, but the jury returned the correct verdict. After the Rampart scandal, hundreds of convictions we overturned.


What evidence do you think was planted?

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calumnus said:

Chapman_is_Gone said:

The construction of student housing on People's Park, while recently delayed by the courts but still set to begin this summer, should have a positive effect on the Telegraph area. Hopefully, The Man plans ahead and is smart enough to avoid the potential arson/tree sitter/terrorism challenges.

I do wonder, though, with People's Park gone, where I will buy my doses in the future.


Just stay with legal THC. There is a really posh, high end dispensary on Telegraph right where Blondies used to be.
Blondie's pizza is still there! And I'm happy to report the pizza is just as bad as it's always been.

The dispensary is a few doors down.
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dimitrig said:

calumnus said:

Bobodeluxe said:

Crooked cop overreach.


The LAPD definitely planted evidence. That doesn't mean OJ is innocent, it was probably him, or possibly his son Jason, but the jury returned the correct verdict. After the Rampart scandal, hundreds of convictions we overturned.


What evidence do you think was planted?




See the testimony of Dennis Fung.

https://famous-trials.com/simpson/1873-fungtestimony

The LAPD officers checked out OJ's blood samples from the lab and were caught on camera bringing it onto the crime scene in garbage bags. The blood on the gate was only discovered a month after the initial investigation, yet it had not degraded at all. The blood in OK's car was not identified when first brought to the impound lot and the car was examined. Then a few days later, after detectives visited, it was all over the interior.

It turned out this was standard LAPD practice for Rampart.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Rampart-scandal

The fact tha LAPD had a general practice of planting evidence and were caught doing it in the OJ trial does not mean OJ or any other suspect was innocent. For the most part, officers were planting evidence because they believed the suspects were guilty.
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philly1121 said:

I'm really not sure there is a more important season in recent memory than the one before us. For our team, for the conference. For our future. We lay anything less than a winning record and - its probably over for our "big league" aspirations. We won't even be a thought, let alone an afterthought.


I think it is already too late for this unfortunately. Not only have we not done anything significant for the past 50+ years but nothing I've read is giving me hope we will be part of the big leagues. I am more than disappointed but don't think there is anyone with clout that is truly vested in ensuring Cal gets placed.
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fat_slice said:

philly1121 said:

I'm really not sure there is a more important season in recent memory than the one before us. For our team, for the conference. For our future. We lay anything less than a winning record and - its probably over for our "big league" aspirations. We won't even be a thought, let alone an afterthought.


I think it is already too late for this unfortunately. Not only have we not done anything significant for the past 50+ years but nothing I've read is giving me hope we will be part of the big leagues. I am more than disappointed but don't think there is anyone with clout that is truly vested in ensuring Cal gets placed.


You might be right but we won't know until the next schools are admitted. If the B1G does not expand again this year, then winning this Fall can only help.
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calumnus said:

fat_slice said:

philly1121 said:

I'm really not sure there is a more important season in recent memory than the one before us. For our team, for the conference. For our future. We lay anything less than a winning record and - its probably over for our "big league" aspirations. We won't even be a thought, let alone an afterthought.


I think it is already too late for this unfortunately. Not only have we not done anything significant for the past 50+ years but nothing I've read is giving me hope we will be part of the big leagues. I am more than disappointed but don't think there is anyone with clout that is truly vested in ensuring Cal gets placed.

Just occurred to me. Could UCLA change their mind and come back? Could they have just wanted to drive SC out of the conference? Crazy, huh?


You might be right but we won't know until the next schools are admitted. If the B1G does not expand again this year, then winning this Fall can only help.
In re UCLA. They are a dupe of SC. I will take great pleasure in seeing Chip Kelly go down. We found out what kind of person he is years ago when, at the end of a high high scoring win, he said when asked when he should have taken his foot off the gas pedal against this overmatched team: "We score and score and score some more."
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Rushinbear said:

calumnus said:

fat_slice said:

philly1121 said:

I'm really not sure there is a more important season in recent memory than the one before us. For our team, for the conference. For our future. We lay anything less than a winning record and - its probably over for our "big league" aspirations. We won't even be a thought, let alone an afterthought.


I think it is already too late for this unfortunately. Not only have we not done anything significant for the past 50+ years but nothing I've read is giving me hope we will be part of the big leagues. I am more than disappointed but don't think there is anyone with clout that is truly vested in ensuring Cal gets placed.

Just occurred to me. Could UCLA change their mind and come back? Could they have just wanted to drive SC out of the conference? Crazy, huh?


You might be right but we won't know until the next schools are admitted. If the B1G does not expand again this year, then winning this Fall can only help.
In re UCLA. They are a dupe of SC. I will take great pleasure in seeing Chip Kelly go down. We found out what kind of person he is years ago when, at the end of a high high scoring win, he said when asked when he should have taken his foot off the gas pedal against this overmatched team: "We score and score and score some more."
Ask Teddy about that strategy.
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Bobodeluxe said:

Rushinbear said:

calumnus said:

fat_slice said:

philly1121 said:

I'm really not sure there is a more important season in recent memory than the one before us. For our team, for the conference. For our future. We lay anything less than a winning record and - its probably over for our "big league" aspirations. We won't even be a thought, let alone an afterthought.


I think it is already too late for this unfortunately. Not only have we not done anything significant for the past 50+ years but nothing I've read is giving me hope we will be part of the big leagues. I am more than disappointed but don't think there is anyone with clout that is truly vested in ensuring Cal gets placed.

Just occurred to me. Could UCLA change their mind and come back? Could they have just wanted to drive SC out of the conference? Crazy, huh?


You might be right but we won't know until the next schools are admitted. If the B1G does not expand again this year, then winning this Fall can only help.
In re UCLA. They are a dupe of SC. I will take great pleasure in seeing Chip Kelly go down. We found out what kind of person he is years ago when, at the end of a high high scoring win, he said when asked when he should have taken his foot off the gas pedal against this overmatched team: "We score and score and score some more."
Ask Teddy about that strategy.
Interesting as it cost us dearly. But it exemplifies the Cal fan base which was 50/50 conflicted over running up the score to get to the Rose Bowl at the time. We were above that or pedal to the metal!!!! And further points our the biggest reason more than likely that Cal FB has never gotten "there". Let's be good, but not too good to ruin our academic reputation seems to be our history. At least it has since Pappy's time.
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OdontoBear66 said:

Bobodeluxe said:

Rushinbear said:

calumnus said:

fat_slice said:

philly1121 said:

I'm really not sure there is a more important season in recent memory than the one before us. For our team, for the conference. For our future. We lay anything less than a winning record and - its probably over for our "big league" aspirations. We won't even be a thought, let alone an afterthought.


I think it is already too late for this unfortunately. Not only have we not done anything significant for the past 50+ years but nothing I've read is giving me hope we will be part of the big leagues. I am more than disappointed but don't think there is anyone with clout that is truly vested in ensuring Cal gets placed.

Just occurred to me. Could UCLA change their mind and come back? Could they have just wanted to drive SC out of the conference? Crazy, huh?


You might be right but we won't know until the next schools are admitted. If the B1G does not expand again this year, then winning this Fall can only help.
In re UCLA. They are a dupe of SC. I will take great pleasure in seeing Chip Kelly go down. We found out what kind of person he is years ago when, at the end of a high high scoring win, he said when asked when he should have taken his foot off the gas pedal against this overmatched team: "We score and score and score some more."
Ask Teddy about that strategy.
Interesting as it cost us dearly. But it exemplifies the Cal fan base which was 50/50 conflicted over running up the score to get to the Rose Bowl at the time. We were above that or pedal to the metal!!!! And further points our the biggest reason more than likely that Cal FB has never gotten "there". Let's be good, but not too good to ruin our academic reputation seems to be our history. At least it has since Pappy's time.


I never felt "better" when a team is beating us but takes a knee at the end. It is some sort of misplaced chivalry. It can also be seen as condescending.

If Tedford had more of a killer instinct he would have won a few more games, including tgat Rose Bowl, and Cal football would be in a different place today.
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Facilities upgrades were major.
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calumnus said:

Bobodeluxe said:

Crooked cop overreach.


The LAPD definitely planted evidence. That doesn't mean OJ is innocent, it was probably him, or possibly his son Jason, but the jury returned the correct verdict. After the Rampart scandal, hundreds of convictions we overturned.


Others have mentioned AC Cowlings assisted. I didn't know they played high school, college, and NFL ball together.

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movielover said:

calumnus said:

Bobodeluxe said:

Crooked cop overreach.


The LAPD definitely planted evidence. That doesn't mean OJ is innocent, it was probably him, or possibly his son Jason, but the jury returned the correct verdict. After the Rampart scandal, hundreds of convictions we overturned.


Others have mentioned AC Cowlings assisted. I didn't know they played high school, college, and NFL ball together.


You only get credit for an assist in basketball.
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movielover said:

Facilities upgrades were major.

Perhaps, but they have had abolutely no impact on our on field success.
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calumnus said:

OdontoBear66 said:

Bobodeluxe said:

Rushinbear said:

calumnus said:

fat_slice said:

philly1121 said:

I'm really not sure there is a more important season in recent memory than the one before us. For our team, for the conference. For our future. We lay anything less than a winning record and - its probably over for our "big league" aspirations. We won't even be a thought, let alone an afterthought.


I think it is already too late for this unfortunately. Not only have we not done anything significant for the past 50+ years but nothing I've read is giving me hope we will be part of the big leagues. I am more than disappointed but don't think there is anyone with clout that is truly vested in ensuring Cal gets placed.

Just occurred to me. Could UCLA change their mind and come back? Could they have just wanted to drive SC out of the conference? Crazy, huh?


You might be right but we won't know until the next schools are admitted. If the B1G does not expand again this year, then winning this Fall can only help.
In re UCLA. They are a dupe of SC. I will take great pleasure in seeing Chip Kelly go down. We found out what kind of person he is years ago when, at the end of a high high scoring win, he said when asked when he should have taken his foot off the gas pedal against this overmatched team: "We score and score and score some more."
Ask Teddy about that strategy.
Interesting as it cost us dearly. But it exemplifies the Cal fan base which was 50/50 conflicted over running up the score to get to the Rose Bowl at the time. We were above that or pedal to the metal!!!! And further points our the biggest reason more than likely that Cal FB has never gotten "there". Let's be good, but not too good to ruin our academic reputation seems to be our history. At least it has since Pappy's time.


I never felt "better" when a team is beating us but takes a knee at the end. It is some sort of misplaced chivalry. It can also be seen as condescending.

If Tedford had more of a killer instinct he would have won a few more games, including tgat Rose Bowl, and Cal football would be in a different place today.
You are playing a game at a highly competitive level. They field their best. You field your best. There are times when it makes sense to be somewhat classy and not run up the score and grind the opposition into submission. But in this instance, the differential and the subjective conclusion led to our being politicked out of a Rose Bowl. Twas a bad strategy on that day.
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OdontoBear66 said:

calumnus said:

OdontoBear66 said:

Bobodeluxe said:

Rushinbear said:

calumnus said:

fat_slice said:

philly1121 said:

I'm really not sure there is a more important season in recent memory than the one before us. For our team, for the conference. For our future. We lay anything less than a winning record and - its probably over for our "big league" aspirations. We won't even be a thought, let alone an afterthought.


I think it is already too late for this unfortunately. Not only have we not done anything significant for the past 50+ years but nothing I've read is giving me hope we will be part of the big leagues. I am more than disappointed but don't think there is anyone with clout that is truly vested in ensuring Cal gets placed.

Just occurred to me. Could UCLA change their mind and come back? Could they have just wanted to drive SC out of the conference? Crazy, huh?


You might be right but we won't know until the next schools are admitted. If the B1G does not expand again this year, then winning this Fall can only help.
In re UCLA. They are a dupe of SC. I will take great pleasure in seeing Chip Kelly go down. We found out what kind of person he is years ago when, at the end of a high high scoring win, he said when asked when he should have taken his foot off the gas pedal against this overmatched team: "We score and score and score some more."
Ask Teddy about that strategy.
Interesting as it cost us dearly. But it exemplifies the Cal fan base which was 50/50 conflicted over running up the score to get to the Rose Bowl at the time. We were above that or pedal to the metal!!!! And further points our the biggest reason more than likely that Cal FB has never gotten "there". Let's be good, but not too good to ruin our academic reputation seems to be our history. At least it has since Pappy's time.


I never felt "better" when a team is beating us but takes a knee at the end. It is some sort of misplaced chivalry. It can also be seen as condescending.

If Tedford had more of a killer instinct he would have won a few more games, including tgat Rose Bowl, and Cal football would be in a different place today.
You are playing a game at a highly competitive level. They field their best. You field your best. There are times when it makes sense to be somewhat classy and not run up the score and grind the opposition into submission. But in this instance, the differential and the subjective conclusion led to our being politicked out of a Rose Bowl. Twas a bad strategy on that day.


I think you play your reserves and you don't take risks, you play conservatively. Even on that day, If we just continued to run with our backup RB (who only happened to be Marshawn Lynch) and score that final TD…
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calumnus said:

OdontoBear66 said:

calumnus said:

OdontoBear66 said:

Bobodeluxe said:

Rushinbear said:

calumnus said:

fat_slice said:

philly1121 said:

I'm really not sure there is a more important season in recent memory than the one before us. For our team, for the conference. For our future. We lay anything less than a winning record and - its probably over for our "big league" aspirations. We won't even be a thought, let alone an afterthought.


I think it is already too late for this unfortunately. Not only have we not done anything significant for the past 50+ years but nothing I've read is giving me hope we will be part of the big leagues. I am more than disappointed but don't think there is anyone with clout that is truly vested in ensuring Cal gets placed.

Just occurred to me. Could UCLA change their mind and come back? Could they have just wanted to drive SC out of the conference? Crazy, huh?


You might be right but we won't know until the next schools are admitted. If the B1G does not expand again this year, then winning this Fall can only help.
In re UCLA. They are a dupe of SC. I will take great pleasure in seeing Chip Kelly go down. We found out what kind of person he is years ago when, at the end of a high high scoring win, he said when asked when he should have taken his foot off the gas pedal against this overmatched team: "We score and score and score some more."
Ask Teddy about that strategy.
Interesting as it cost us dearly. But it exemplifies the Cal fan base which was 50/50 conflicted over running up the score to get to the Rose Bowl at the time. We were above that or pedal to the metal!!!! And further points our the biggest reason more than likely that Cal FB has never gotten "there". Let's be good, but not too good to ruin our academic reputation seems to be our history. At least it has since Pappy's time.


I never felt "better" when a team is beating us but takes a knee at the end. It is some sort of misplaced chivalry. It can also be seen as condescending.

If Tedford had more of a killer instinct he would have won a few more games, including tgat Rose Bowl, and Cal football would be in a different place today.
You are playing a game at a highly competitive level. They field their best. You field your best. There are times when it makes sense to be somewhat classy and not run up the score and grind the opposition into submission. But in this instance, the differential and the subjective conclusion led to our being politicked out of a Rose Bowl. Twas a bad strategy on that day.


I think you play your reserves and you don't take risks, you play conservatively. Even on that day, If we just continued to run with our backup RB (who only happened to be Marshawn Lynch) and score that final TD…

Worth noting that we actually did score that extra score-padding TD but the refs took it off the board on a bad holding call.
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calumnus said:

OdontoBear66 said:

calumnus said:

OdontoBear66 said:

Bobodeluxe said:

Rushinbear said:

calumnus said:

fat_slice said:

philly1121 said:

I'm really not sure there is a more important season in recent memory than the one before us. For our team, for the conference. For our future. We lay anything less than a winning record and - its probably over for our "big league" aspirations. We won't even be a thought, let alone an afterthought.


I think it is already too late for this unfortunately. Not only have we not done anything significant for the past 50+ years but nothing I've read is giving me hope we will be part of the big leagues. I am more than disappointed but don't think there is anyone with clout that is truly vested in ensuring Cal gets placed.

Just occurred to me. Could UCLA change their mind and come back? Could they have just wanted to drive SC out of the conference? Crazy, huh?


You might be right but we won't know until the next schools are admitted. If the B1G does not expand again this year, then winning this Fall can only help.
In re UCLA. They are a dupe of SC. I will take great pleasure in seeing Chip Kelly go down. We found out what kind of person he is years ago when, at the end of a high high scoring win, he said when asked when he should have taken his foot off the gas pedal against this overmatched team: "We score and score and score some more."
Ask Teddy about that strategy.
Interesting as it cost us dearly. But it exemplifies the Cal fan base which was 50/50 conflicted over running up the score to get to the Rose Bowl at the time. We were above that or pedal to the metal!!!! And further points our the biggest reason more than likely that Cal FB has never gotten "there". Let's be good, but not too good to ruin our academic reputation seems to be our history. At least it has since Pappy's time.


I never felt "better" when a team is beating us but takes a knee at the end. It is some sort of misplaced chivalry. It can also be seen as condescending.

If Tedford had more of a killer instinct he would have won a few more games, including tgat Rose Bowl, and Cal football would be in a different place today.
You are playing a game at a highly competitive level. They field their best. You field your best. There are times when it makes sense to be somewhat classy and not run up the score and grind the opposition into submission. But in this instance, the differential and the subjective conclusion led to our being politicked out of a Rose Bowl. Twas a bad strategy on that day.


I think you play your reserves and you don't take risks, you play conservatively. Even on that day, If we just continued to run with our backup RB (who only happened to be Marshawn Lynch) and score that final TD…
It's absolutely insane to think how much talent was on some of the the JT teams. The guy handing the ball to back-up running back Lynch was A-Rod and Chris Mandarino, who played in the League, was the fullback leading Lynch into the LOS, behind some future NFL blocker like Craig Stevens and Ryan O.
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Golden One said:

movielover said:

Facilities upgrades were major.

Perhaps, but they have had absolutely no impact on our on field success.

We'll never know for sure, but I would guess that recruiting -- even though it hasn't been great -- would be worse if our facilities were still at bottom-of-the-conference level.

Damn, 11-12 months ago, I thought we were poised to break through. Now, even if we win, say, 8 games this fall, we still need to deal with the NIL and conference obstacles, both major.
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Big C said:

Golden One said:

movielover said:

Facilities upgrades were major.

Perhaps, but they have had absolutely no impact on our on field success.

We'll never know for sure, but I would guess that recruiting -- even though it hasn't been great -- would be worse if our facilities were still at bottom-of-the-conference level.

Damn, 11-12 months ago, I thought we were poised to break through. Now, even if we win, say, 8 games this fall, we still need to deal with the NIL and conference obstacles, both major.
Ha! NIL? Forgot all about that.

Help us, Oski Wan Kenobi!
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eastcoastcal said:

okaydo said:

O.J. doesn't want to lose the Stanford rivalry.


After seeing so many posts from USC, UCLA, and Stanford fans it begins to feel like we're the least valued California school to everybody


Exactly this! Like I've said in other posts, we have no one with material clout in this situation. We are in no better shape than Oregon st. And Washington St. And because the general public has no idea that Cal is Berkeley (thanks cal marketing and admin), everything just boils down to "cal?!? They suck and add nothing". Perception is reality.
 
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