Shocky1 said:

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https://instagr.am/p/BOTs5_CAt5s
since the mateen backstory post i've been asked by a cal football staffer if i'd like to donate to nil to ensure bhaghani's status as a california golden bear

the reality is that ima not gonna work in any endeavors with those that terminated cal's monster class (the most read thread in the history of college basketball, when my love letter to cal basketball got censored jaylen brown among others joined me in walking away from any financial support of cal athletics) & that continue to enable james arthur knowlton's current path of running our sport teams into an existential financial iceberg

and with that being said that's a loss for the cal football & basketball programs, my fundraising for rescue doggys here in maricopa county is a multiple of the current aggregated nil fundraising for cal's revenue sports

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So, okay, let's say we all follow your NIL logic....so you are on the record as saying no one should be donating to Cal NIL until Knowlton is gone? Should we just make it a hash tag, or something?
@ShockysaysnoCalNIL At little bit wordy, I'm sure your creativity will come up with something...or do you want Sebastabear to help with that? You want us to use it every day, or just on this thread? Just asking, because after all, we have to follow the lead of the "Monster"....
Okay, let us know, I'm going back to yoga, and will await your direction, and of course, latest hot daughter pics...

Shocky1 said:

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https://instagr.am/p/C0e42_NMmei
mb, actually i recommend that all cal fans that have the financial means to do so support the nil collective, that's the only way cal football & basketball are gonna compete for championships in today's modern collegiate era, ok?

unfortunately as outlined above that don't work for me right now but there's a lotta formerly scared rescue doggys that are no longer living on the mean streets of phoenix thx to the monster who is dedicated to protecting the most vulnerable in society & keeping them in a happy safe zone

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Let me also raise another point. Neither JK or Cal have any say of how the NIL Collective operates or the money is used or they violate many NCA rules and depending on their actions, could be liable for anti-trust violations. So by contributing directly to NIL you are bypassing Cal and having direct investment to the football program, without Cal drawing any fees, and allowing Wilcox to pursue players in the Portal. I would hope this message could be delivered on all boards.

BearGreg said:

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You left out the pertinent part of Cal's decision to schedule Oregon State

Wilcox approved the idea and wants it. That's who made the decision.

Tough to prognosticate the Beavers football team in 2024 as better than an average MWC team given the exodus of most of their staff including their HC, a lot of graduating (out of eligibility) starters, and an open hunting license on their remaining team by every other program.

As a reminder, Oregon State in the three seasons before Jonathan Smith was 7-29

All that said, it's not my view that they will be a mid-major in 2024 (though I see why that's not a hard argument to make), it's Justin Wilcox's view.

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Makes sense that it was Oregon born Wilcox. Knowlton doesn't care, he's from the East Coast, played for Army, lives in Colorado and has no sentiment for the PAC-12. I'm sure he would otherwise go along with the ACC commissioner line he always went along with Larry Scott and Klisvkoff.

Hawaii still has an opening for a 13th game. 7-6 beats 6-6.

BearGreg said:

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You left out the pertinent part of Cal's decision to schedule Oregon State

Wilcox approved the idea and wants it. That's who made the decision.

Tough to prognosticate the Beavers football team in 2024 as better than an average MWC team given the exodus of most of their staff including their HC, a lot of graduating (out of eligibility) starters, and an open hunting license on their remaining team by every other program.

As a reminder, Oregon State in the three seasons before Jonathan Smith was 7-29

All that said, it's not my view that they will be a mid-major in 2024 (though I see why that's not a hard argument to make), it's Justin Wilcox's view.

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why does Wilcox want it? How does it help Cal? And why are we giving a hopefully dead man walking coach decision making authority over how tough of a schedule we have?

BearGreg said:

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You left out the pertinent part of Cal's decision to schedule Oregon State

Wilcox approved the idea and wants it. That's who made the decision.

Tough to prognosticate the Beavers football team in 2024 as better than an average MWC team given the exodus of most of their staff including their HC, a lot of graduating (out of eligibility) starters, and an open hunting license on their remaining team by every other program.

As a reminder, Oregon State in the three seasons before Jonathan Smith was 7-29

All that said, it's not my view that they will be a mid-major in 2024 (though I see why that's not a hard argument to make), it's Justin Wilcox's view.

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Gee. You mean Shocky is incorrect?
How can that be?

Shocky1 said:

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https://instagr.am/p/C0e42_NMmei
mb, actually i recommend that all cal fans that have the financial means to do so support the nil collective, that's the only way cal football & basketball are gonna compete for championships in today's modern collegiate era, ok?

unfortunately as outlined above that don't work for me right now but there's a lotta formerly scared rescue doggys that are no longer living on the mean streets of phoenix thx to the monster who is dedicated to protecting the most vulnerable in society & keeping them in a happy safe zone

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So, you aren't part of "all Cal fans?" You think your hate for Knowlton is special and exceeds some of the others here?
Being involved with animals is really perfect, because you are, at best, petty.

Handled it Coach. Appreciate you Bears. #StAnFuRdK #FUCLA https://t.co/IncEZsy8hc

— Jaydn Ott🇼🇸 (@THEJAYDNOTT) December 5, 2023

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update re: yesterday's zoom call between knowlton & the acc commish

the acc commish is encouraging cal to play more west coast teams in non conference play particularly mid majors during the middle of acc conference play

the commish fully understands (unlike the con artist) the importance of the sec football scheduling model of a-c-c-d games to ensure bowl eligibility

right now the bears for 2024 got an "a" game at auburn, a "b" game hosting san diego state & a "d" game hosting uc davis

it's absolutely critical that in cal's inaugural 2024 season in the acc that bowl eligibility is achieved from both a recruiting & fan base energy standpoint...there's gonna be another round of conference realignment in the future & if the bears aren't a perennial bowl team we're gonna be left behind, the mountain west is a death blow...reality is that cal is the acc because of the lobbying efforts of stanford's condeleezza rice & notre dame's jack swarbrick, it got nothing to do with jim or carol who wuz sitting on the sidelines with their hands in their pockets eating popcorn

so that's why not signing the oregon state and/or washington state future football game contracts that are sitting on knowlton's desk awaiting his signature should never be executed, the con artist is awaiting both schools dropping their lawsuits against the departing pac 12 schools

oregon state is a nationally ranked team that could mean cal is not bowl eligible in 2024, the bears got zero recruits from oregon in the current high school class & the fan base got zero interest in traveling to a drizzly azz truck stop town like corvallis anymore

the bears will be playing the irish in the future but not until the current notre dame/stanford series is done in 2025 & the nd tv deal with nbc is finalized...right now it's looking like 3 to 5 games during the next 12 years

the acc comish is working to replace the big 10 in the rose bowl, he's already got deals in place with the holiday bowl & the la bowl (which would be a huge boost for cal recruiting in so cal with usc & ucla games never happening again) for acc teams

not surprisingly at the end of the zoom, knowlton made a cheap shot comment about larry & george as pac 12 commishs which is ironically disingenuous coming from the worst/least qualified athletic director in the nation who plays dodgeball with every interview request

yeah the con artist is continuing his degradation of cal revenue sports, the 4th out of conference game for 2024 is absolutely critical with respects to the upward trajectory of the cal football program...he's made in clear he's not gonna cut any sports or reduce any of his massive infrastructure of worthless bureaucrats like himself & markeisha, financial comprehension/responsibility is not in his tool kit

only a dumb **** would schedule oregon state for 2024 (or extend mark fox's contract)

cap

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cal's dumb as **** athletic director has signed the 2024 oregon state contract as 1st reported here, knowlton's clueless enablers will tell you the beavers are a beatable team but reality is that they've been a nationally ranked team the last 2 years & with martinez returning at rb they will be a 50/50 game for the bears next season

james arthur knowlton signed the oregon state contract despite the acc commish telling him to schedule a mid major mid season to ensure as many acc teams as possible are bowl eligible

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oregon state game update:

as usual the insiders are questioning the accuracy of the monster's information re: the knowlton zoom call with the acc commish...sigh

they are stating that the acc commish "borderline demands each of its teams to play P5 teams in OCC" and that "every ACC team is playing two P5 schools"

so let's check some 2024 acc schedules (duke & pittsburgh have not scheduled their 4th occ game yet) to see if these are accurate statements, ok?

north carolina tar heels:
minnesota golden golphers (the a occ game)
charlotte 49ers
nc central eagles
james madison dukes

north carolina wolfpack:
tennessee volunteers
western carolina catamounts
louisiana tech bulldogs
northern illinois huskies

wake forest deacons:
ole miss rebels
north carolina at&t aggies
uconn huskies
army black knights

miami hurricanes:
florida gators
florida a&m rattlers
ball state cardinals
usf bulls

louisville cardinals (no 4th occ due to notre dame game):
kentucky wildcats
austin peay governors
jacksonville state gamecocks

virginia cavaliers (no 4th occ due to notre dame game):
maryland terrapins
richmond spiders
coastal carolina chanticleers

stanford cardinals (no 4th occ due to notre dame game):
tcu horned frogs
cal poly mustangs
san jose state spartans

florida state seminoles (no 4th occ due to notre dame game):
florida gators
memphis tigers
charleston south buccaneers

georgia tech bulldogs (no 4th occ due to notre dame game):
georgia bulldogs
georgia state panthers
vmi keydets

syracuse orangemen:
ohio bobcats
army black knights
holy cross crusaders
uconn huskies

and then there's of course the colorado springs fightin' knowltons:
auburn tigers (sec team that beat the bears in berkeley in 2023)
oregon state beavers (nationally ranked last 2 seasons, beaten the bears in 3 of the last 4 seasons)
san diego states aztecs (dangerous team with five 10+ victory seasons since 2015)
uc davis aggies

yeah them bears got arguably the HARDEST ******* schedule in the acc in 2024

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Argh. ok, people keep DM'ing me to say I need to come to this thread and weigh in. Why, I have absolutely no idea since none of this has anything to do with what I'm doing for the team and honestly all the posts in this world aren't changing the outcome. And guys I have other things to do during the portal window - stop DM'ing me. But I'll come in one last time.

Bill, you weren't on the zoom call with the ACC Commissioner. Do you know how I know? BECAUSE I WAS ACTUALLY ON THE CALL. So some second hand information you are getting about what was said from someone who is less plugged in to the program doesn't change what happened. And you passing along the second hand doesn't trump those of us who heard it firsthand.

Yes, the ACC Commissioner on this Zoom call said he wanted ACC teams to schedule two P5/P4 teams OOC. I also got this from the ACC directly on a subsequent call. Why? Well the answer is in the schedules you post. Every team playing Notre Dame (all five of them) have a SECOND P5/P4 team scheduled. Notre Dame is a P5 team. You don't get to ignore that for purposes of this analysis. Why would five of the teams you mention have Notre Dame as their second OOC game if they were being encouraged to schedule a mid major? SMU is also omitted from your list. They are also playing two P5 teams. You also omitted the others that don't mesh with your narrative: Clemson (Georgia and South Carolina), Boston College (Missouri and Michigan State), etc. All playing two P5/P4 schools. As will Cal.

The analysis if you care is that if some schools are playing Notre Dame every year PLUS another P5 team, then the rest of the conference should also be following suit. It otherwise makes an apples to oranges comparison in figuring out OOC strength of schedule if you have to start getting into tie breakers. The teams that don't have two P5/P4 schools are ones where they already had a contract in place for 2024 and couldn't change it. That list will allegedly be whittled down to zero over the next few years as those contracted games roll off the schedule.

Where we violently agree is in the objective of OOC scheduling. It is to win games. Period. We need them for bowl eligibility and eventually for a shot at the CFP. Cal's goal is to find the easiest team to beat that satisfies the directive from the ACC to schedule two P5/P4 schools OOC. The Cal football staff made a football judgement on that. Were they right? Well time will tell and if we lose they were 100% wrong. But no amount of outrage on a message board is changing this outcome and of all the questionable decisions that come out of Cal this is probably one of the more rational ones. Not the hill to die on.

Back to the day job.

When your bestie shows up to hang out with you after some rough days of seizures 😍😍😍 Bryson sure is lucky to have you @THEJAYDNOTT 💜 #family #epilepsywarrior #fightlikebryson #protectlikebrock #helmets4helmets @CoachAT23 pic.twitter.com/64lpu3isXm

— Helmets4Helmets (@Helmets4Helmets) December 7, 2023

Just Jaydn being the best, as usual.

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BearGreg said:

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You left out the pertinent part of Cal's decision to schedule Oregon State

Wilcox approved the idea and wants it. That's who made the decision.

Tough to prognosticate the Beavers football team in 2024 as better than an average MWC team given the exodus of most of their staff including their HC, a lot of graduating (out of eligibility) starters, and an open hunting license on their remaining team by every other program.

As a reminder, Oregon State in the three seasons before Jonathan Smith was 7-29

All that said, it's not my view that they will be a mid-major in 2024 (though I see why that's not a hard argument to make), it's Justin Wilcox's view.

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why does Wilcox want it? How does it help Cal? And why are we giving a hopefully dead man walking coach decision making authority over how tough of a schedule we have?

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Others have explained Wilcox's reported thinking. One thing that has not been mentioned - recruiting. Cal presumably wants to continue recruiting in Oregon (and Washington for that matter). Helpful to play games there, particularly if we can stomp OSU and WSU.

Big time DL in the TP! @AidanAkfootball IS A BALLER! Great POA NT/3Tech! RECRUIT OR PLAY! 92 is a BAD MAN! #DungeonFamily @DeionSanders @CoachBuddyWyatt @CoachNickWill @CoachDiribe96 @CoachVenables @OU_CoachB @CoachTonyAlford @CoachAAtkins @CoachWozniakTE @CoachMikeElston… pic.twitter.com/KLWbCs64KX

— Coach Matt McChesney (@SixZeroAcademy) November 28, 2023

cal's monster class official visit recruiting update:

6'3" 309 lbs notre dame grad transfer defensive tackle aidan ikaika keanaaina from mullen high school in denver is gonna take an official visit to berkeley this weekend

his dad stacey (played hoops at hawaii hilo back in the day) wuz an army brat & didn't raise no dumb azz, aidan got a 4.0 gpa in high school & is gonna graduate this month in south bend with a degree in business administration

keanaaina got 2 years of remaining eligibility to develop with coach browning's attentive mentoring

the university of california, berkeley=#1 ranked public university in the world (including germany & shaq's house)
https://www.forbes.com/top-colleges/

Locked in🔒@SummitFB @CalFootball @browning_coach @CoachLaborte @USArmyBowl pic.twitter.com/YYZqkyYwyv

— Legend Journey (@LegendJourney_) December 6, 2023

3.3 gpa apex predator edge defender army all american#

2023 independence bowl (is not gonna be melting in the dark)#

Sebastabear said:

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Shocky1 said:

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Shocky1 said:

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Shocky1 said:

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update re: yesterday's zoom call between knowlton & the acc commish

the acc commish is encouraging cal to play more west coast teams in non conference play particularly mid majors during the middle of acc conference play

the commish fully understands (unlike the con artist) the importance of the sec football scheduling model of a-c-c-d games to ensure bowl eligibility

right now the bears for 2024 got an "a" game at auburn, a "b" game hosting san diego state & a "d" game hosting uc davis

it's absolutely critical that in cal's inaugural 2024 season in the acc that bowl eligibility is achieved from both a recruiting & fan base energy standpoint...there's gonna be another round of conference realignment in the future & if the bears aren't a perennial bowl team we're gonna be left behind, the mountain west is a death blow...reality is that cal is the acc because of the lobbying efforts of stanford's condeleezza rice & notre dame's jack swarbrick, it got nothing to do with jim or carol who wuz sitting on the sidelines with their hands in their pockets eating popcorn

so that's why not signing the oregon state and/or washington state future football game contracts that are sitting on knowlton's desk awaiting his signature should never be executed, the con artist is awaiting both schools dropping their lawsuits against the departing pac 12 schools

oregon state is a nationally ranked team that could mean cal is not bowl eligible in 2024, the bears got zero recruits from oregon in the current high school class & the fan base got zero interest in traveling to a drizzly azz truck stop town like corvallis anymore

the bears will be playing the irish in the future but not until the current notre dame/stanford series is done in 2025 & the nd tv deal with nbc is finalized...right now it's looking like 3 to 5 games during the next 12 years

the acc comish is working to replace the big 10 in the rose bowl, he's already got deals in place with the holiday bowl & the la bowl (which would be a huge boost for cal recruiting in so cal with usc & ucla games never happening again) for acc teams

not surprisingly at the end of the zoom, knowlton made a cheap shot comment about larry & george as pac 12 commishs which is ironically disingenuous coming from the worst/least qualified athletic director in the nation who plays dodgeball with every interview request

yeah the con artist is continuing his degradation of cal revenue sports, the 4th out of conference game for 2024 is absolutely critical with respects to the upward trajectory of the cal football program...he's made in clear he's not gonna cut any sports or reduce any of his massive infrastructure of worthless bureaucrats like himself & markeisha, financial comprehension/responsibility is not in his tool kit

only a dumb **** would schedule oregon state for 2024 (or extend mark fox's contract)

cap

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cal's dumb as **** athletic director has signed the 2024 oregon state contract as 1st reported here, knowlton's clueless enablers will tell you the beavers are a beatable team but reality is that they've been a nationally ranked team the last 2 years & with martinez returning at rb they will be a 50/50 game for the bears next season

james arthur knowlton signed the oregon state contract despite the acc commish telling him to schedule a mid major mid season to ensure as many acc teams as possible are bowl eligible

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oregon state game update:

as usual the insiders are questioning the accuracy of the monster's information re: the knowlton zoom call with the acc commish...sigh

they are stating that the acc commish "borderline demands each of its teams to play P5 teams in OCC" and that "every ACC team is playing two P5 schools"

so let's check some 2024 acc schedules (duke & pittsburgh have not scheduled their 4th occ game yet) to see if these are accurate statements, ok?

north carolina tar heels:
minnesota golden golphers (the a occ game)
charlotte 49ers
nc central eagles
james madison dukes

north carolina wolfpack:
tennessee volunteers
western carolina catamounts
louisiana tech bulldogs
northern illinois huskies

wake forest deacons:
ole miss rebels
north carolina at&t aggies
uconn huskies
army black knights

miami hurricanes:
florida gators
florida a&m rattlers
ball state cardinals
usf bulls

louisville cardinals (no 4th occ due to notre dame game):
kentucky wildcats
austin peay governors
jacksonville state gamecocks

virginia cavaliers (no 4th occ due to notre dame game):
maryland terrapins
richmond spiders
coastal carolina chanticleers

stanford cardinals (no 4th occ due to notre dame game):
tcu horned frogs
cal poly mustangs
san jose state spartans

florida state seminoles (no 4th occ due to notre dame game):
florida gators
memphis tigers
charleston south buccaneers

georgia tech bulldogs (no 4th occ due to notre dame game):
georgia bulldogs
georgia state panthers
vmi keydets

syracuse orangemen:
ohio bobcats
army black knights
holy cross crusaders
uconn huskies

and then there's of course the colorado springs fightin' knowltons:
auburn tigers (sec team that beat the bears in berkeley in 2023)
oregon state beavers (nationally ranked last 2 seasons, beaten the bears in 3 of the last 4 seasons)
san diego states aztecs (dangerous team with five 10+ victory seasons since 2015)
uc davis aggies

yeah them bears got arguably the HARDEST ******* schedule in the acc in 2024

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Argh. ok, people keep DM'ing me to say I need to come to this thread and weigh in. Why, I have absolutely no idea since none of this has anything to do with what I'm doing for the team and honestly all the posts in this world aren't changing the outcome. And guys I have other things to do during the portal window - stop DM'ing me. But I'll come in one last time.

Bill, you weren't on the zoom call with the ACC Commissioner. Do you know how I know? BECAUSE I WAS ACTUALLY ON THE CALL. So some second hand information you are getting about what was said from someone who is less plugged in to the program doesn't change what happened. And you passing along the second hand doesn't trump those of us who heard it firsthand.

Yes, the ACC Commissioner on this Zoom call said he wanted ACC teams to schedule two P5/P4 teams OOC. I also got this from the ACC directly on a subsequent call. Why? Well the answer is in the schedules you post. Every team playing Notre Dame (all five of them) have a SECOND P5/P4 team scheduled. Notre Dame is a P5 team. You don't get to ignore that for purposes of this analysis. Why would five of the teams you mention have Notre Dame as their second OOC game if they were being encouraged to schedule a mid major? SMU is also omitted from your list. They are also playing two P5 teams. You also omitted the others that don't mesh with your narrative: Clemson (Georgia and South Carolina), Boston College (Missouri and Michigan State), etc. All playing two P5/P4 schools. As will Cal.

The analysis if you care is that if some schools are playing Notre Dame every year PLUS another P5 team, then the rest of the conference should also be following suit. It otherwise makes an apples to oranges comparison in figuring out OOC strength of schedule if you have to start getting into tie breakers. The teams that don't have two P5/P4 schools are ones where they already had a contract in place for 2024 and couldn't change it. That list will allegedly be whittled down to zero over the next few years as those contracted games roll off the schedule.

Where we violently agree is in the objective of OOC scheduling. It is to win games. Period. We need them for bowl eligibility and eventually for a shot at the CFP. Cal's goal is to find the easiest team to beat that satisfies the directive from the ACC to schedule two P5/P4 schools OOC. The Cal football staff made a football judgement on that. Were they right? Well time will tell and if we lose they were 100% wrong. But no amount of outrage on a message board is changing this outcome and of all the questionable decisions that come out of Cal this is probably one of the more rational ones. Not the hill to die on.

Back to the day job.

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Because it can't be said enough: thanks for all you do, including posting on a thread run by someone who doesn't support your terrific efforts...

Come to Cal🫤

— Jaydn Ott🇼🇸 (@THEJAYDNOTT) December 7, 2023

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Not that it couldn't happen, but . . . I will say that nothing about Jaydn Ott's social-media behavior indicates a guy who is interested in leaving Cal.

sycasey said:

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Not that it couldn't happen, but . . . I will say that nothing about Jaydn Ott's social-media behavior indicates a guy who is interested in leaving Cal.

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Agree ... and that would bring a sigh of relief to thousands of bears everywhere. I know it's way too early but the recent addition of UC davis transfer and the wideout that offers from virtually everywhere has me getting excited for the first season in the ACC a lot earlier than I expected.