01Bear said:AunBear89 said:01Bear said:Big C said:01Bear said:Big C said:tpender said:
Please stop this idiotic madness!
It's its own genre: absurdist humor
Thankfully, absurdist humor is already a genre where writers, like Carl Hiaasen, Christopher Moore, and Tom Holt are far funnier than OP.
Not surprisingly, absurdist humor on the Growls forum of Bear Insider is not going to be world class / professional quality
Very true!
I don't know. . . The work of Yogi and his many sock puppets borders on mad genius, but it isn't parody, so it's really just sad and pathetic.
I hadn't realized this was just another Yogi account. Good catch!
Big C said:01Bear said:AunBear89 said:01Bear said:Big C said:01Bear said:Big C said:tpender said:
Please stop this idiotic madness!
It's its own genre: absurdist humor
Thankfully, absurdist humor is already a genre where writers, like Carl Hiaasen, Christopher Moore, and Tom Holt are far funnier than OP.
Not surprisingly, absurdist humor on the Growls forum of Bear Insider is not going to be world class / professional quality
Very true!
I don't know. . . The work of Yogi and his many sock puppets borders on mad genius, but it isn't parody, so it's really just sad and pathetic.
I hadn't realized this was just another Yogi account. Good catch!
If that were the case, then he got me... big time. I have always thought that 49 is a real Cal fan, with some "unique" takes on things.
Neat. Can you think of one other interesting call Joe Starkey has made in the subsequent 40 years of covering Cal football?Gobears49 said:1, Always in the hands of a player -- not when a lateral was made.MSaviolives said:
Consider if you were listening to Starkey's call on the radio without benefit of seeing what was happening.
"The ball is loose" No it wasn't--it was always in the hands of a player
"Another one!" Another what?
No idea of where on the field the play was happening. No indication that these were laterals.
Joe's heartfelt "The Bears have won" and what followed was very well done, but his actual play call was classic Joe and thus not good if the purpose was to understand the play as it unfolded.
2. The ball is still loose -- if the ball had been fumbled, I am sure Starkey would have said so. When a lateral occurs there is a short period of time the ball is loose, not held by a player.
3. Again, laterals are to be expected on a play such as this, which was the last play of the game (Starkey must have said how many seconds were left on the clock before The Play began). Laterals are normally expected when there are only a few seconds left in the game, so are very common on the last play of the game. When a lateral occurs the ball can be said to be "loose." It's a colorful way of saying saying "lateral." I applaud Starkey's colorful use of that word.
tpender said:
Being so bad made the call unforgettable.
MSaviolives said:
Consider if you were listening to Starkey's call on the radio without benefit of seeing what was happening.
"The ball is loose" No it wasn't--it was always in the hands of a player
"Another one!" Another what?
No idea of where on the field the play was happening. No indication that these were laterals.
Joe's heartfelt "The Bears have won" and what followed was very well done, but his actual play call was classic Joe and thus not good if the purpose was to understand the play as it unfolded.
tpender said:
He was a marginally decent announcer and full of himself!
okaydo said:
Top 5 non players in Cal football history:
1. Andy Smith
2. Pappy Waldorf
3. Bruce Snyder
4. Joe Starkey
5. Jeff Tedford
TomBear said:
Sorry but I totally disagree.
Joe had his weaknesses to be sure. But compared to those calling other Pac schools I'd take him over any one of them with the notable exception of the former Husky announcer (whose name escapes me right now).
He is an iconic figure who will always be associated with Cal football and particularly (and obviously) The Play. He loved Cal and Cal athletics. Moreover he loved the traditions of Cal and college football in general. And he reflected that in his broadcasts. He talked about the Cal Band, the spirit groups, the activities in the stands and associated off campus (but relevant) activities as well. He loved the history not only of Cal, but the rivalries themselves. And he wasn't afraid to have fun. College football, above all, should be fun. Joe could laugh at things and share them on his broadcasts. His love for the players was obvious. His background information was second to none (which is probably why they still have him doing features on various rivalries in the pre-game broadcast).
Yeah he wasn't great (especially in later years) with down, distance and time. But the color and pageantry of the game, which is so overlooked by other broadcasters, was always front and center. And I was pretty much always able to figure out what was going on if I paid attention for just a few moments.
A statue would be fine with me. I'm not sure it's something I'd stress over. But I think some sort of commemoration of the man is appropriate.
I feel the same way about Joe Kapp, Mark Bingham (that one should be near Witter), and a few other notable Cal athletes. In Joe's case, at the very least, there should be some sort of plaque outside the press box where normal folk can see it.
Fellow biker Bear: totally agree.BearOnABike said:
Big Picture thoughts: agree with Hearst that "Cal's continued glorification of The Play is an indication of how little the program has to celebrate, at least for the last 60 years." We've been running off of the fumes of The Play for far too long. It's cringeworthy frankly.
On the idea itself: no statue or continously playing video for Starkey. First, he did the radio call so a video doesn't make sense. Second, it was a good call and certainly adds an element to The Play, but The Play stands on its own. Those in attendance and watching on TV would attest to that.
bearister said:
I would contribute to having Joe's ashes shot out of the Victory Cannon after the 1st touchdown scored in the Big Game, similar to Hunter S. Thompson's epic memorial service. Perhaps Kevin Moen could light the fuse?
GMP said:bearister said:
I would contribute to having Joe's ashes shot out of the Victory Cannon after the 1st touchdown scored in the Big Game, similar to Hunter S. Thompson's epic memorial service. Perhaps Kevin Moen could light the fuse?
Are you going to wait for him to die or no?
How about Knowlton instead?GMP said:bearister said:
I would contribute to having Joe's ashes shot out of the Victory Cannon after the 1st touchdown scored in the Big Game, similar to Hunter S. Thompson's epic memorial service. Perhaps Kevin Moen could light the fuse?
Are you going to wait for him to die or no?
Your paragraph describing Joe's loyalty and longtime love of Cal also describes me. As a matter of fact,TomBear said:
Sorry but I totally disagree.
Joe had his weaknesses to be sure. But compared to those calling other Pac schools I'd take him over any one of them with the notable exception of the former Husky announcer (whose name escapes me right now).
He is an iconic figure who will always be associated with Cal football and particularly (and obviously) The Play. He loved Cal and Cal athletics. Moreover he loved the traditions of Cal and college football in general. And he reflected that in his broadcasts. He talked about the Cal Band, the spirit groups, the activities in the stands and associated off campus (but relevant) activities as well. He loved the history not only of Cal, but the rivalries themselves. And he wasn't afraid to have fun. College football, above all, should be fun. Joe could laugh at things and share them on his broadcasts. His love for the players was obvious. His background information was second to none (which is probably why they still have him doing features on various rivalries in the pre-game broadcast).
Yeah he wasn't great (especially in later years) with down, distance and time. But the color and pageantry of the game, which is so overlooked by other broadcasters, was always front and center. And I was pretty much always able to figure out what was going on if I paid attention for just a few moments.
A statue would be fine with me. I'm not sure it's something I'd stress over. But I think some sort of commemoration of the man is appropriate.
I feel the same way about Joe Kapp, Mark Bingham (that one should be near Witter), and a few other notable Cal athletes. In Joe's case, at the very least, there should be some sort of plaque outside the press box where normal folk can see it.
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