Seems pretty confirmed now, hopefully he has mellowed out a bit with the time off but I doubt it.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/42872514/sources-cal-hire-ex-auburn-coach-brian-harsin-oc

I like this possibility!

I remember his work being excellent at Boise. Auburn is a weird place with too much interference by big boosters that creates instability in their football program. I'm not surprised he didn't work out there.

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Former Auburn and Boise State head coach Bryan Harsin has emerged as a candidate for the offensive coordinator job at Cal, sources tell @CBSSports/@247Sports

Before Auburn, Harsin was 69-19 as the head coach at Boise. https://t.co/qOetA1iLiU pic.twitter.com/1LFNOzE3ar

— Matt Zenitz (@mzenitz) December 8, 2024

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Not that familiar with Harsin, but from a quick read about how his time at Auburn ended, sounds like an absolutely terrible hire. That plus his likely friendship with Wilcox means it probably happens. Crappy coaches who just happen to be Wilcox's best friends - hmm, like Sirmon perhaps?

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didn't Auburn only show his HC talents relative to a very specific SEC program?
He isn't getting Wilcox's job, so it's a different deal?

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He is apparently a major dick so depending who you are that is a plus or minus.

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Not just a major dick, but a total walking red flag. He also has a reputation for being a non-recruiter, an unprepared quiet quitter, and an outspoken conspiracy theorist.

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Checks out. From the Pacific Northwest (Boise, Idaho) and played for Boise. Was the OC at Boise the entire time Wilcox was the DC. Has coached in Texas. They are the exact same age (born 11 days apart). I am sure they are buddies. He's been unemployed for 3 years after getting fired after a brief stint at Auburn with a big buyout.

Anyone have an option on his offense? I assume "multiple"?

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"Multiple," lol. Full circle with Beau Baldwin?

I hope this is not another buddy hire disaster. Even thought he is signed through 2027, JW is running out of time to have any real success at Cal -- this might be the last chance.

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CAL4LIFE said:

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Former Auburn and Boise State head coach Bryan Harsin has emerged as a candidate for the offensive coordinator job at Cal, sources tell @CBSSports/@247Sports

Before Auburn, Harsin was 69-19 as the head coach at Boise. https://t.co/qOetA1iLiU pic.twitter.com/1LFNOzE3ar

— Matt Zenitz (@mzenitz) December 8, 2024

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Not that familiar with Harsin, but from a quick read about how his time at Auburn ended, sounds like an absolutely terrible hire. That plus his likely friendship with Wilcox means it probably happens. Crappy coaches who just happen to be Wilcox's best friends - hmm, like Sirmon perhaps?

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didn't Auburn only show his HC talents relative to a very specific SEC program?
He isn't getting Wilcox's job, so it's a different deal?

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Did no one read the Wikipedia page? Apparently 31 players left his program with Bo Nix describing his time under Harsin as "miserable" and players saying they were treated "like dogs". On recruiting, "Harsin's recruiting also came under significant criticism during his tenure at Auburn, signing the worst two recruiting classes in program history by a wide margin, with the coaches of many of the top high school programs in Alabama stating that they had never met Harsin and that he was "absent on the recruiting trail"." These are from stories in the Athletic and local papers.

He's been out of work since October 31, 2022. Awful strange hire if you ask me.

With tens of thousands of job applications to go through, I'm sure he is just one.

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HKBear97! said:

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Former Auburn and Boise State head coach Bryan Harsin has emerged as a candidate for the offensive coordinator job at Cal, sources tell @CBSSports/@247Sports

Before Auburn, Harsin was 69-19 as the head coach at Boise. https://t.co/qOetA1iLiU pic.twitter.com/1LFNOzE3ar

— Matt Zenitz (@mzenitz) December 8, 2024

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Not that familiar with Harsin, but from a quick read about how his time at Auburn ended, sounds like an absolutely terrible hire. That plus his likely friendship with Wilcox means it probably happens. Crappy coaches who just happen to be Wilcox's best friends - hmm, like Sirmon perhaps?

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didn't Auburn only show his HC talents relative to a very specific SEC program?
He isn't getting Wilcox's job, so it's a different deal?

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Did no one read the Wikipedia page? Apparently 31 players left his program with Bo Nix describing his time under Harsin as "miserable" and players saying they were treated "like dogs". On recruiting, "Harsin's recruiting also came under significant criticism during his tenure at Auburn, signing the worst two recruiting classes in program history by a wide margin, with the coaches of many of the top high school programs in Alabama stating that they had never met Harsin and that he was "absent on the recruiting trail"." These are from stories in the Athletic and local papers.

He's been out of work since October 31, 2022. Awful strange hire if you ask me.

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Yeah, the more I look into this the worse it looks.. Horrible hire, especially for Berkeley in the Portal era. Like Mark Fox he repels recruits. Another Idaho friend and neighbor of Wilcox for him to give our money to. Is there no one, insiders, donors looking out for the program?

Is Harsin going to OC the LA Bowl?

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Checks out. From the Pacific Northwest (Boise, Idaho) and played for Boise. Was the OC at Boise the entire time Wilcox was the DC. Has coached in Texas. They are the exact same age (born 11 days apart). I am sure they are buddies. He's been unemployed for 3 years after getting fired after a brief stint at Auburn with a big buyout.

Anyone have an option on his offense? I assume "multiple"?

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"Multiple," lol. Full circle with Beau Baldwin?

I hope this is not another buddy hire disaster. Even thought he is signed through 2027, JW is running out of time to have any real success at Cal -- this might be the last chance.

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The more I look the more horrible it gets. Just the opposite of what we need:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/sec/2022/02/04/bryan-harsin-auburn-football-toxic-dysfunctional-program/6670942001/

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KoreAmBear said:

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calumnus said:

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Checks out. From the Pacific Northwest (Boise, Idaho) and played for Boise. Was the OC at Boise the entire time Wilcox was the DC. Has coached in Texas. They are the exact same age (born 11 days apart). I am sure they are buddies. He's been unemployed for 3 years after getting fired after a brief stint at Auburn with a big buyout.

Anyone have an option on his offense? I assume "multiple"?

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"Multiple," lol. Full circle with Beau Baldwin?

I hope this is not another buddy hire disaster. Even thought he is signed through 2027, JW is running out of time to have any real success at Cal -- this might be the last chance.

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The more I look the more horrible it gets. Just the opposite of what we need:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/sec/2022/02/04/bryan-harsin-auburn-football-toxic-dysfunctional-program/6670942001/

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Here's a different perspective. Not that I'm arguing one way or the other. Just trying to find info on the guy.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/37707097/bryan-harsin-thriving-away-football-rocky-tenure-auburn

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calumnus said:

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calumnus said:

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Checks out. From the Pacific Northwest (Boise, Idaho) and played for Boise. Was the OC at Boise the entire time Wilcox was the DC. Has coached in Texas. They are the exact same age (born 11 days apart). I am sure they are buddies. He's been unemployed for 3 years after getting fired after a brief stint at Auburn with a big buyout.

Anyone have an option on his offense? I assume "multiple"?

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"Multiple," lol. Full circle with Beau Baldwin?

I hope this is not another buddy hire disaster. Even thought he is signed through 2027, JW is running out of time to have any real success at Cal -- this might be the last chance.

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The more I look the more horrible it gets. Just the opposite of what we need:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/sec/2022/02/04/bryan-harsin-auburn-football-toxic-dysfunctional-program/6670942001/

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Here's a different perspective. Not that I'm arguing one way or the other. Just trying to find info on the guy.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/37707097/bryan-harsin-thriving-away-football-rocky-tenure-auburn

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Note the picture in that article of Harsin, his son and Bo Nix taken in the Oregon locker room. Neither Nix or Harsin look like they're holding a grudge. In fact the smiles all around indicate the opposite.
Two sides to every story I guess.

And IIRC Nix was taking a ton of fan and media heat at Auburn. I do remember he was disappointed and miserable. He described it in a pregame televised feature last year. I remember it as him wanting to get away from the Auburn pressure and his whole body of work there. He had little success under Gus Malzahn as well. I don't remember his decision to leave Auburn as being specifically related to Harsin. That's what I took from that feature on him.

Why the hell didn't I get into coaching? Be a loser, fail upwards, make millions, get fired then get rehired for more millions via cronyism.

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4-9 conference record at Auburn, sounds like Wilcox has got his man!

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With Bo Nix too, correct?

ninetyfourbear said:

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calumnus said:

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calumnus said:

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Checks out. From the Pacific Northwest (Boise, Idaho) and played for Boise. Was the OC at Boise the entire time Wilcox was the DC. Has coached in Texas. They are the exact same age (born 11 days apart). I am sure they are buddies. He's been unemployed for 3 years after getting fired after a brief stint at Auburn with a big buyout.

Anyone have an option on his offense? I assume "multiple"?

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"Multiple," lol. Full circle with Beau Baldwin?

I hope this is not another buddy hire disaster. Even thought he is signed through 2027, JW is running out of time to have any real success at Cal -- this might be the last chance.

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The more I look the more horrible it gets. Just the opposite of what we need:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/sec/2022/02/04/bryan-harsin-auburn-football-toxic-dysfunctional-program/6670942001/

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Here's a different perspective. Not that I'm arguing one way or the other. Just trying to find info on the guy.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/37707097/bryan-harsin-thriving-away-football-rocky-tenure-auburn

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Good read, thanks for sharing. Certainly a different perspective.

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ninetyfourbear said:

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calumnus said:

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KoreAmBear said:

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calumnus said:

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Checks out. From the Pacific Northwest (Boise, Idaho) and played for Boise. Was the OC at Boise the entire time Wilcox was the DC. Has coached in Texas. They are the exact same age (born 11 days apart). I am sure they are buddies. He's been unemployed for 3 years after getting fired after a brief stint at Auburn with a big buyout.

Anyone have an option on his offense? I assume "multiple"?

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"Multiple," lol. Full circle with Beau Baldwin?

I hope this is not another buddy hire disaster. Even thought he is signed through 2027, JW is running out of time to have any real success at Cal -- this might be the last chance.

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The more I look the more horrible it gets. Just the opposite of what we need:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/sec/2022/02/04/bryan-harsin-auburn-football-toxic-dysfunctional-program/6670942001/

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Here's a different perspective. Not that I'm arguing one way or the other. Just trying to find info on the guy.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/37707097/bryan-harsin-thriving-away-football-rocky-tenure-auburn

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Good read, thanks for sharing. Certainly a different perspective.

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Can you be good as an oc and not good as a hc? the jobs are different.

Trying to look on the bright side, esp since we're powerless.

Yes. Wilcox.

I don't think we can afford to hire someone in this position who has been at best described as disinterested in recruiting.

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ninetyfourbear said:

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calumnus said:

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Checks out. From the Pacific Northwest (Boise, Idaho) and played for Boise. Was the OC at Boise the entire time Wilcox was the DC. Has coached in Texas. They are the exact same age (born 11 days apart). I am sure they are buddies. He's been unemployed for 3 years after getting fired after a brief stint at Auburn with a big buyout.

Anyone have an option on his offense? I assume "multiple"?

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"Multiple," lol. Full circle with Beau Baldwin?

I hope this is not another buddy hire disaster. Even thought he is signed through 2027, JW is running out of time to have any real success at Cal -- this might be the last chance.

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The more I look the more horrible it gets. Just the opposite of what we need:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/sec/2022/02/04/bryan-harsin-auburn-football-toxic-dysfunctional-program/6670942001/

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Here's a different perspective. Not that I'm arguing one way or the other. Just trying to find info on the guy.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/37707097/bryan-harsin-thriving-away-football-rocky-tenure-auburn

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Note the picture in that article of Harsin, his son and Bo Nix taken in the Oregon locker room. Neither Nix or Harsin look like they're holding a grudge. In fact the smiles all around indicate the opposite.
Two sides to every story I guess.

And IIRC Nix was taking a ton of fan and media heat at Auburn. I do remember he was disappointed and miserable. He described it in a pregame televised feature last year. I remember it as him wanting to get away from the Auburn pressure and his whole body of work there. He had little success under Gus Malzahn as well. I don't remember his decision to leave Auburn as being specifically related to Harsin. That's what I took from that feature on him.

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This goes far beyond Bo Nix. He was accused of racism by multiple players and was investigated for it (and a sexual relationship with a staff member) at Auburn. At a minimum an inability to relate to African American players which was also a charge at Boise. He said the George Floyd protesters were the problem. His own social media record is a disaster. His tweet after Trump was convicted made USA Today and was to the right of Auburn fans. He will not help gain support for the program within the larger university community, he will do the opposite.

He is just a really bad fit for Cal, especially in the Portal era. He is considered to be a jerk, a really bad recruiter. I said the same about Mark Fox and was proven right. Harsin is worse.

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I don't think we can afford to hire someone in this position who has been at best described as disinterested in recruiting.

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that's a different matter. can he manage those who are good at it? does he know a good one when he sees it?

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I don't think we can afford to hire someone in this position who has been at best described as disinterested in recruiting.

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that's a different matter. can he manage those who are good at it? does he know a good one when he sees it?

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Reportedly he alienated the good ones (young and African American) at Auburn. The players still have to play for him.

I did say, "at best." The descriptions I've read of his recruiting issues state that it isn't just that he puts no affirmative effort in, but that he wouldn't even make the time to speak to recruits. I understand that we may not need him to be a primary recruiter, but he has to at least participate in the process. We have few enough dynamic recruiters, and it certainly wouldn't help to hire a key staffer that has been described by multiple sources as worse than dead weight in that regard.
It is true that I don't have any knowledge of the accuracy of these reports, but they seem pretty widespread.

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I did say, "at best." The descriptions I've read of his recruiting issues state that it isn't just that he puts no affirmative effort in, but that he wouldn't even make the time to speak to recruits. I understand that we may not need him to be a primary recruiter, but he has to at least participate in the process. We have few enough dynamic recruiters, and it certainly wouldn't help to hire a key staffer that has been described by multiple sources as worse than dead weight in that regard.
It is true that I don't have any knowledge of the accuracy of these reports, but they seem pretty widespread.

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Very widespread. He is a guy that was born in Boise Idaho and has lived there his entire life. He is reportedly not good at or even interested in relating to young people from different backgrounds even on his teams. "Lacks empathy" The opposite of a good recruiter. Look at how bad a fit Mark Fox was at Cal and how it resulted in our losing more talent than it brought in. Harsin is worse.

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I did say, "at best." The descriptions I've read of his recruiting issues state that it isn't just that he puts no affirmative effort in, but that he wouldn't even make the time to speak to recruits. I understand that we may not need him to be a primary recruiter, but he has to at least participate in the process. We have few enough dynamic recruiters, and it certainly wouldn't help to hire a key staffer that has been described by multiple sources as worse than dead weight in that regard.
It is true that I don't have any knowledge of the accuracy of these reports, but they seem pretty widespread.

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Very widespread. He is a guy that was born in Boise Idaho and has lived there his entire life. He is reportedly not good at or even interested in relating to young people from different backgrounds even on his teams. "Lacks empathy" The opposite of a good recruiter. Look at how bad a fit Mark Fox was at Cal and how it resulted in our losing more talent than it brought in. Harsin is worse.

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The only silver lining I see is that a basketball head coach has so much more influence over the program than an offensive coordinator. Half the team won't interact with Harsin. And then you can divvy up responsibilities and let Harsin focus on what he (apparently) does best, Xs and Os.

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Checks out. From the Pacific Northwest (Boise, Idaho) and played for Boise. Was the OC at Boise the entire time Wilcox was the DC. Has coached in Texas. They are the exact same age (born 11 days apart). I am sure they are buddies. He's been unemployed for 3 years after getting fired after a brief stint at Auburn with a big buyout.

Anyone have an option on his offense? I assume "multiple"?

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"Multiple," lol. Full circle with Beau Baldwin?

I hope this is not another buddy hire disaster. Even thought he is signed through 2027, JW is running out of time to have any real success at Cal -- this might be the last chance.

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The more I look the more horrible it gets. Just the opposite of what we need:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/sec/2022/02/04/bryan-harsin-auburn-football-toxic-dysfunctional-program/6670942001/

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Did you find anything from his 7 years at Boise St. or when he was an OC? I'm not being a smart ass, truly curious...
I do know from someone who is a big Auburn fan and close to Auburn boosters that there were people who had it in for him from the beginning; he wasn't regional, and there were other "hot candidates."
IF your OC is able to affect the culture of the program, then that's saying a lot about the HC....
Me personally, don't care about his time away as the game hasn't changed much, and he had a big buyout...hell, seeing it's a nice done deal, maybe it was a good thing to get his head back to where it was?

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Checks out. From the Pacific Northwest (Boise, Idaho) and played for Boise. Was the OC at Boise the entire time Wilcox was the DC. Has coached in Texas. They are the exact same age (born 11 days apart). I am sure they are buddies. He's been unemployed for 3 years after getting fired after a brief stint at Auburn with a big buyout.

Anyone have an option on his offense? I assume "multiple"?

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"Multiple," lol. Full circle with Beau Baldwin?

I hope this is not another buddy hire disaster. Even thought he is signed through 2027, JW is running out of time to have any real success at Cal -- this might be the last chance.

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The more I look the more horrible it gets. Just the opposite of what we need:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/sec/2022/02/04/bryan-harsin-auburn-football-toxic-dysfunctional-program/6670942001/

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Did you find anything from his 7 years at Boise St. or when he was an OC? I'm not being a smart ass, truly curious...
I do know from someone who is a big Auburn fan and close to Auburn boosters that there were people who had it in for him from the beginning; he wasn't regional, and there were other "hot candidates."
IF your OC is able to affect the culture of the program, then that's saying a lot about the HC....
Me personally, don't care about his time away as the game hasn't changed much, and he had a big buyout...hell, seeing it's a nice done deal, maybe it was a good thing to get his head back to where it was?

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What I'm observing as an outsider is that Auburn has fired its last 5 head coaches with a payout of 45 million dollars. Before we played Auburn, I read their message boards and saw that Hugh Freeze was getting absolutely roasted. I'm taking away that Auburn has a toxic and delusional fan base and boosters. I'd read anything about Harsin coming out of Auburn with a some healthy skepticism.

Imagine your school cares about football A LOT and your hated rival is Alabama, then Nick Saban comes along and has his run. Yes Auburn is delusional. Yes they have boosters and fans who are desperate. Yes they have PTSD from Alabama's dominance. But there's no way they wanted these coaches to lose games and 9-12 is 9-12 and Bo Nix really did transfer along with a bunch of other players.

What does Chris Peterson say about him?

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mbBear said:

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Checks out. From the Pacific Northwest (Boise, Idaho) and played for Boise. Was the OC at Boise the entire time Wilcox was the DC. Has coached in Texas. They are the exact same age (born 11 days apart). I am sure they are buddies. He's been unemployed for 3 years after getting fired after a brief stint at Auburn with a big buyout.

Anyone have an option on his offense? I assume "multiple"?

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"Multiple," lol. Full circle with Beau Baldwin?

I hope this is not another buddy hire disaster. Even thought he is signed through 2027, JW is running out of time to have any real success at Cal -- this might be the last chance.

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The more I look the more horrible it gets. Just the opposite of what we need:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/sec/2022/02/04/bryan-harsin-auburn-football-toxic-dysfunctional-program/6670942001/

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Did you find anything from his 7 years at Boise St. or when he was an OC? I'm not being a smart ass, truly curious...
I do know from someone who is a big Auburn fan and close to Auburn boosters that there were people who had it in for him from the beginning; he wasn't regional, and there were other "hot candidates."
IF your OC is able to affect the culture of the program, then that's saying a lot about the HC....
Me personally, don't care about his time away as the game hasn't changed much, and he had a big buyout...hell, seeing it's a nice done deal, maybe it was a good thing to get his head back to where it was?

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What I'm observing as an outsider is that Auburn has fired its last 5 head coaches with a payout of 45 million dollars. Before we played Auburn, I read their message boards and saw that Hugh Freeze was getting absolutely roasted. I'm taking away that Auburn has a toxic and delusional fan base and boosters. I'd read anything about Harsin coming out of Auburn with a some healthy skepticism.

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Very fair.

In today's game, recruiting is everything and JW especially espouses finding OKG players.

I know the rules state that only a limited number of coaches can recruit. Is Harsin going to be excluded from this group? Cuz if he's not expected to perform in this area, then he shouldn't be hired...he's free to be a consultant or other type of offensive coach.

Imagine a staff where every coach went balls out in coaching their assignments and went balls out recruiting!

The only thing I can think is maybe this is how we justify paying below market rates -- by saying "OK we'll keep your recruiting duties to a minimum..."

Anyone remember when Holmoe hired Borges as our OC? It pretty much sealed his fate...and this smells an awful lot like that...

https://calbears.com/news/2013/4/17/208198434.aspx

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Imagine your school cares about football A LOT and your hated rival is Alabama, then Nick Saban comes along and has his run. Yes Auburn is delusional. Yes they have boosters and fans who are desperate. Yes they have PTSD from Alabama's dominance. But there's no way they wanted these coaches to lose games and 9-12 is 9-12 and Bo Nix really did transfer along with a bunch of other players.

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According to everything I've read, the Auburn fan base didn't want Harsin and had their knives out before he even coached a game.

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WalterSobchak said:

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Imagine your school cares about football A LOT and your hated rival is Alabama, then Nick Saban comes along and has his run. Yes Auburn is delusional. Yes they have boosters and fans who are desperate. Yes they have PTSD from Alabama's dominance. But there's no way they wanted these coaches to lose games and 9-12 is 9-12 and Bo Nix really did transfer along with a bunch of other players.

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According to everything I've read, the Auburn fan base didn't want Harsin and had their knives out before he even coached a game.

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So he went 9-12 just to stick it to 'em?

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WalterSobchak said:

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Imagine your school cares about football A LOT and your hated rival is Alabama, then Nick Saban comes along and has his run. Yes Auburn is delusional. Yes they have boosters and fans who are desperate. Yes they have PTSD from Alabama's dominance. But there's no way they wanted these coaches to lose games and 9-12 is 9-12 and Bo Nix really did transfer along with a bunch of other players.

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According to everything I've read, the Auburn fan base didn't want Harsin and had their knives out before he even coached a game.

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So he went 9-12 just to stick it to 'em?

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You don't know the damage Gus Malzahn did to that program!

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WalterSobchak said:

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Imagine your school cares about football A LOT and your hated rival is Alabama, then Nick Saban comes along and has his run. Yes Auburn is delusional. Yes they have boosters and fans who are desperate. Yes they have PTSD from Alabama's dominance. But there's no way they wanted these coaches to lose games and 9-12 is 9-12 and Bo Nix really did transfer along with a bunch of other players.

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According to everything I've read, the Auburn fan base didn't want Harsin and had their knives out before he even coached a game.

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So he went 9-12 just to stick it to 'em?

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You don't know the damage Gus Malzahn did to that program!

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When was the last head coach to leave Auburn under decent circumstances, Pat Dye?