Cal to Play Presbyterian Blue Hose in 2011

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Cal84
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boredom;476161 said:

there are seriously people upset with this because of the implications it might have if we go undefeated? That's like being concerned that the Warriors' lack of backcourt depth will hurt them in the NBA Finals.


+1
BellottiBold
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For the record, Oregon was supposed to play Central Michigan, rather than Portland State, but CMU bailed.

New Mexico was also scheduled when they were pretty decent under Rocky Long.
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boredom;476161 said:

there are seriously people upset with this because of the implications it might have if we go undefeated? That's like being concerned that the Warriors' lack of backcourt depth will hurt them in the NBA Finals.


you misunderstand. i have no expectation Cal will go undefeated with or without the blue hose on the schedule....the comparision with Auburn in 2004 was for those folks that seem to think a weak schedule doesnt matter (apparently as evidenced by Oregon this past season). I was pointing out Oregon put themselves in a situation where they could have gotten "jobbed" like auburn was in 2004 BECAUSE they scheduled weakly.

the only upside to a game like this is that the 2nd/3rd stringers might actually see the field which isnt something that seems to happen often enough recently

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CalBearinLA
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GET PUMPED!!!!!!


southseasbear
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316008;476169 said:

the only upside to a game like this is that the 2nd/3rd stringers might actually see the field which isnt something that seems to happen often enough recently...


This is a big advantage, one that we need. We have a young team and need to give 2nd/3rd stringers (many of whom may be our new recruits) some serious playing time to be prepared for the future. Most likely the competition for QB will be Maynard, Bridgford, Hinder; a game such as this makes sure that the two who do not win get valuable playing time. Maybe Boehm will get a series that can bolster confidence in the future.
TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Do they have a forum where we can go talk smack?

Too bad they aren't the "Red Hose," that way we'd be able to generate some actual animosity towards them.

:bluecarrot:
MinotStateBeav
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We shoulda scheduled Minot State
oobay
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CalBearinLA;476171 said:

GET PUMPED!!!!!!





Well, if this were the Squat Bowl, it might be a close game. Otherwise, this really sucks to have 1 of our 5 home games wasted on this.
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oobay;476178 said:

Well, if this were the Squat Bowl, it might be a close game. Otherwise, this really sucks to have 1 of our 5 home games wasted on this.


1 of our 5 games was going to be "wasted" on an FCS opponent. Chill out.
MinotStateBeav
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they should have a promotion for this game...Bring a Canned food, get in free. lol.
2ndQtrBear
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Senior laden team, returning starting QB, a dynamic Big South offense, they'll be fired up to play an FBS team across the country... this one should be a barn burner. Game will probably come down to Cal's QB play. I just hope Cal doesn't take the 'Hose lightly; last year Gardner-Webb thought they could walk all over Presbyterian and the result was predictable: 26-24, Blue Hose in a rout.
WarTime Consigliere
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what a joke, this is what happens when you put it off for so long. so much incompetence in the athletic department, its embarrasing.
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boredom;476161 said:

there are seriously people upset with this because of the implications it might have if we go undefeated? That's like being concerned that the Warriors' lack of backcourt depth will hurt them in the NBA Finals.


+1 what is 316008 smoking?
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boredom;476161 said:

there are seriously people upset with this because of the implications it might have if we go undefeated? That's like being concerned that the Warriors' lack of backcourt depth will hurt them in the NBA Finals.


/Thread.

There's your C- team. Deal with it people.
AunBear89
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And there is the root cause of many of these FCS games - and all of them on recent Cal schedules: they are often made of necessity rather than free will.

Schedules are typically made several years in advance, yet Cal has now scheduled two games in the off-season for the coming season - unheard of!

And holes remain on future schedules. I hope we aren't expecting home and homes with top 20 teams in every open slot....
howcanilose
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Alright I've been meaning to see those Blue Hoses taken down a peg a looonnnggg time.. yessss.



No real complaints about scheduling FCS teams. Esp. if cheap tickets pop up.
calgo430
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1. they are bringing their band
2. vegas has us as a 4 1/2 point favorite
3. are we playing the church or the college ?
4. what will be the ticket price for this game ?
gobeers2324
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The whining and bitch*ng on this board gets goddamn ridiculous sometimes... no wonder every other teams site has such an easy time making fun of it. Buncha 45 year old nerds whining about everything possible.

Why not get a win, we sure as hell are likely going to have a hard time according to all you experts, as well as getting a new qb and the young guys playing time?
Golden One
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Sounds like an out of conference opponent the University of Texas would have on their schedule.
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MinotStateBeav;476189 said:

they should have a promotion for this game...Bring a Canned food, get in free. lol.


Nah. To get in free, you have to bring...



or



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Tree Cutter
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Cryin' out loud, another FCS school to play early in the season:headbang


I get the fact that playing patsies helps pad the schedule and gets some PT for the bench guys but, comon' at least get a patsy FBS school.

Fine, get San Jose St. Of all the years, that this could've been the opportunity to tell them: no, on playing down there but, we've got a train from your door step's-to-our's. Easy for them, their students can come up without too much coordinating, the gate ain't gonna be that big and everyone goes home happy. Plus, they're a FBS school.

...and, they put UC Berkeley on the schedule, instead of California.

PhUC!!!

rant off.
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gobeers2324;476227 said:

The whining and bitch*ng on this board gets goddamn ridiculous sometimes... no wonder every other teams site has such an easy time making fun of it. Buncha 45 year old nerds whining about everything possible.

Why not get a win, we sure as hell are likely going to have a hard time according to all you experts, as well as getting a new qb and the young guys playing time?


You got that right.....a one time deal because of renovation etc and we get all the hand wringing Nancys come out of the wood work.... boo hoo hoo.. cry me a river..if we did this every year and yea, I'd complain, but an aberration caused by a confluence of outside variables and a bunch of you are weeping and wailing and gnashing your teeth ......have some Nyquil and call it a night for God's sake
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I fear the Presbyterians; far tougher than the Unitarians plus their cheerleaders are hot.

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CalGrad95;476144 said:

To quote John McEnroe: "You can NOT be SERIOUS!!!"

WTF is this?? Were the Little Sisters of the Poor and Blind already booked?

Absolute joke to schedule a team of this caliber.


Pretty much yeah
maxer
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Interesting that so many occasional posters are so OUTRAGED about this scheduling.

Next year is a weird year -- Memorial is under construction and the conference is expanding.

This is a smart way to schedule -- especially when there are 9 conf games.

For comparison's sake, here are some other Pac-10 OOC games next season:

9/17/2011 - Oregon vs. Missouri State Bears (FCS school)
9/17/2011 - Oregon State vs. TBA (I assume then that their entire Athletic Department are also morons?)
9/3/2011 - Washington vs. Eastern Washington (same school so many of you were bemoaning was part of this "trend", so I assume you remember them)
9/3/2011 - Washington State vs. Idaho State Bengals (FCS school)
9/24/2011 - Stanford vs TBA (is Bowlsby also an idiot?)
9/3/2011 - Arizona vs. Northern Arizona Lumberjacks (FCS school)
9/3/2011 - Arizona St. vs UC Davis (FCS - this one also rings a bell)

In conclusion -- gimme a break. An FCS school is an FCS school - what makes Presbyterian any better or worse than any of these others?
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TouchedTheAxeIn82;476173 said:

Do they have a forum where we can go talk smack?

Too bad they aren't the "Red Hose," that way we'd be able to generate some actual animosity towards them.

:bluecarrot:


I found a Blue Hose football board!

http://s9.zetaboards.com/PC_Blue_Hose/forum/49252/

All right, who's gonna be first to sign-up and ask them why their mascot is:

BearyWhite
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Couldn't help it...
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Five games against in-state opponents and a road trip to [COLOR="Red"][SIZE=1]California[/SIZE][/COLOR] [COLOR="SeaGreen"]UC[/COLOR] Berkeley highlight the 2011 Presbyterian College football schedule, it was announced today.

"I am excited about the 2011 schedule," said head coach Harold Nichols, who just finished his second year with the Blue Hose. "We play a very demanding schedule. We face three strong teams from the Southern Conference, and our conference slate which includes Liberty and Coastal Carolina[COLOR="Red"][SIZE=1],[/SIZE][/COLOR] will be challenging for us as well. Cal will be a great trip for us. Coach (Jeff) Tedford is doing great things out there and it'll be a fun game and a great experience for our guys.[COLOR="SeaGreen"]"[/COLOR]

Presbyterian College opens Saturday, Sept. 3 against Wofford. PC owns a 40-38-3 record against the Terriers and last faced them in 2008, coming away with the 21-38 loss. That game renewed a rivalry that [COLOR="Red"][SIZE=1]had[/SIZE][/COLOR] had been dormant since 1995, [COLOR="Red"][SIZE=1]the last time the two teams had met annually since 1946[/SIZE][/COLOR] [COLOR="SeaGreen"]after fifty years of annual meetings[/COLOR]. The last time the Blue Hose defeated the Terriers at home was in 1989, [COLOR="SeaGreen"]winning[/COLOR] 24-22 behind the arm of [COLOR="SeaGreen"]Coach[/COLOR] Nichols, [COLOR="Red"][SIZE=1]who was[/SIZE][/COLOR] the PC quarterback at the time.

After a stint against North Greenville Sept. 10, the Blue Hose travel to [COLOR="Red"][SIZE=1]San Francisco, Calif.,[/SIZE][/COLOR] [COLOR="SeaGreen"]Berkeley[/COLOR] to take on [COLOR="SeaGreen"]the University of[/COLOR] California [COLOR="Red"][SIZE=1]Berkeley[/SIZE][/COLOR] from the PAC-[COLOR="Red"][SIZE=1]10[/SIZE][/COLOR] [COLOR="SeaGreen"]12[/COLOR] Sept. 17. The Golden Bears, who finished 5-7 last season, have played in a bowl game [COLOR="Green"]seven of[/COLOR] the last [COLOR="Red"][SIZE=1]seven of[/SIZE][/COLOR] eight years.

[COLOR="Red"][SIZE=1]Including UC Berkeley, t[/SIZE][/COLOR][COLOR="SeaGreen"]T[/COLOR]he Blue Hose are on the road for [COLOR="Red"][SIZE=1]six[/SIZE][/COLOR] [COLOR="SeaGreen"]five[/COLOR] of their next [COLOR="Red"][SIZE=1]seven[/SIZE][/COLOR] [COLOR="SeaGreen"]six[/COLOR] games, with stops at Furman (Sept. 24), Stony Brook (Oct. 8), Georgia Southern (Oct. 22), Liberty (Oct. 29) and Coastal Carolina (Nov. 5). In the middle is a home game against Big South foe Gardner Webb Oct. 15. PC defeated the Bulldogs, 26-24, in the[COLOR="SeaGreen"]ir[/COLOR] last meeting [COLOR="Red"][SIZE=1]and is 17-16 all-time[/SIZE][/COLOR] [COLOR="SeaGreen"]to take the all-time series lead, 17-16[/COLOR].
BearyWhite
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Maybe they're Watchmen fans and their mascot is actually:
mbBear
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glad you said that...it was like people out of the wood work...some of the "outrage" is almost laughable, like somehow this game has anything to do with league play. Sort of the "i've never heard of them so this can't be good" school of thinking.
Its perfect scheduling for a team that is going to be playing a fair amount of young guys. Fresno State will come with a bunch of guys who would have loved to been recruited by Cal, and then a road game to altitude for an improved Colorado team ("improved" if for no other reason they have a no coach, new attitude,etc)so this works...
OH, but what if Cal is close to making the BCS Championship game, and this one game could hold them back?????! Any of the outraged folks want me to give them odds on thatt?
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BellottiBold;476165 said:

For the record, Oregon was supposed to play Central Michigan, rather than Portland State, but CMU bailed.

New Mexico was also scheduled when they were pretty decent under Rocky Long.


Honor defended!

What's that saying about "ifs", "buts," "candy and nuts?"
Zman713
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I personally think that they are so worried about the bus drivers getting lost on their way to the new venue, they scheduled this one to take some pressure off.
brj1
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How long is this hosing going to continue ?

tequila4kapp
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drunkoski;476297 said:

Enjoying our C-D-F non conference conference schedule. we are reaching asu level's people.


The truth is this team needs a CCF or CDF schedule.

Massive staff turnover, new / young starter at QB, new starter at RB, still crappy OL, not playing any true home games, playing very few so-called home games all equals very tough year. The absolute last thing this program can endure is another losing season. In order to maintain recruiting momentum we must rebound from last year, even if it means winning three patsy OOO games.
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tequila4kapp;476299 said:

The absolute last thing this program can endure is another losing season. In order to maintain recruiting momentum we must rebound from last year, even if it means winning three patsy OOO games.


Don't you think recruits and the general public can figure out who we got those wins against? I'm just not seeing the brilliant strategy on the part of Cal and SEC schools scheduling the likes of Presbyterian - though I hardly think it's a disaster for us either.
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510Bear;476327 said:

Don't you think recruits and the general public can figure out who we got those wins against? I'm just not seeing the brilliant strategy on the part of Cal and SEC schools scheduling the likes of Presbyterian - though I hardly think it's a disaster for us either.


Any kid that we're recruiting now only knows of Cal as a winner (i.e., aside from last year a 17 year old hasn't seen Cal lose since he was about 9). Any version of winning this year merely reinforces that perception.

Lose and we have two straight losing seasons to cap a downward trend. Excuses can dismiss one bad season. I don't think it works with two.

Win this season, even against crappy opponents, and the staff has something to work with: moving back on campus, new facilities, more home games, we're on our way back, last year was the exceptions, blah, blah, blah.

And back to the main point, I don't think it matters at all that we're playing a FCS team. Everyone does it. If it wasn't an FCS team it would have been a D level FBS team that was a guaranteed W anyway. Is the average recruit going to care that you got a W over Presbyterian instead of say San Jose State? Of course not.
 
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