Spoiler alert: Bill Hader is part of The Force Awakens.

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MoragaBear;842617670 said:

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Wow, mind officially blown...

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Me too. I have a new found respect for idiots.

Butte legend declares Return of the Jedi the best Star Wars film (scroll to last minute).

http://www.packers.com/media-center/videos/Rodgers-not-surprised-by-Woodsons-play/e13fb779-4da1-44f3-a078-3c3ef790719e?campaign=sf17122107

Sebastabear;842617619 said:

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Wow. I hadn't heard this, but I just watched the video. Amazing. I never would have guessed, but I'm a believer now.

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thanks for the posting this. My sides still hurt..

LudwigsFountain;842617577 said:

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Honest Question -- I'm and old fart and have never seen any of the Star War movies. This doesn't come up often, but when I mention this people can't believe it; they seem to think I'm an alien who's only just recently arrived and taken on human form.

My question: Are these worth watching if you don't have the nostalgia of seeing them when you were young going for you? If so, which ones and in what order? Are there any you should avoid?

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I saw the first one (I'm sorry, but it's called "Star Wars") the third night it came out at the Coronet in SF. Guys in my college house had gone the previous night and came back raving. Very good, broke new ground in many ways, but maybe a tad overrated and simplistic.

The Empire Strikes Back remains one of my all-time favorite movies. Great scenes, great lines and lots to talk about afterwards, especially in relation to to the first one. "Good", "evil", "black", "white": May not always be what you think. Curiously, Mick LaSalle, a film critic whom I really respect, didn't like this one. That guy writes ten times better than me, and knows film a thousand times better, but, sorry, he's wrong and I'm right, in this one case.

As Dajo9 said, Return of the Jedi made me realize that the main focus was rapidly becoming selling product.

I saw the 5th one, then passed on the two most recent ones.

Mick Lasalle says this one's great, so who knows? I'm not rooting against it, or anything. One thing I do know, I'm already sick of all the product marketing. Guess what EVERY little boy is getting for Christmas this year? I wish I had a piece of that action...

Big C_Cal;842617699 said:

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One thing I do know, I'm already sick of all the product marketing.

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Huh? What are you talking about?

okaydo;842617702 said:

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Huh? What are you talking about?

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If you thought Lucas marketed the heck outta Star Wars, wait until you see what Disney's gonna do. Star Wars On Ice?...

HaasBear04;842617697 said:

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thanks for the posting this. My sides still hurt..

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I'm not so sure it's not true. I have a theory that I won't share because I think it will end up being right and a big spoiler.

okaydo;842617568 said:

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Is it true that Han Sulu is ...?

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Thanks a lot for the spoiler. Please read the title of this thread. Did you fail reading comprehension or what?

:headbang:headbang:headbang

Bear_Elegance;842617863 said:

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Thanks a lot for the spoiler. Please read the title of this thread. Did you fail reading comprehension or what?

:headbang:headbang:headbang

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Oh, common. You didn't actually think I was spoiling anything, did you?

dajo9;842617597 said:

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I grade ROTJ down for this reason. Ewoks were created solely to sell product. That was evident even back in the 1980s.

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Yep. Lucas lost his touch, or his grip on reality, sometime around 1982-83. Went from American Graffiti(1973), Star Wars(1977), Empire Strikes Back(1980), Raiders of the Lost Ark(1981) to Return of the Jedi(1983), Temple of Doom(1984), multiple Ewok spin-offs(1985-86), and Captain EO(1986). That is quite a fall from grace. Those before 1982 = American classics. Those after = confessions of a troubled mind. My guess is cocaine was the culprit, and that he got sober sometime in the late 80s, and managed to churn out a few more American classics in Willow(1988) and Last Crusade(1989), before falling off the wagon for good, with Beverly Hills Cop III(1996?) as his high-point since before the beginning of the Clinton presidency until now. His greatest achievement later in his life has been to hand the reigns to someone capable. Still, whoever above said Attack of the Clones is superior to Return of the Jedi is out of their mind.

ShareBear;842617895 said:

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Yep. Lucas lost his touch, or his grip on reality, sometime around 1982-83. Went from American Graffiti(1973), Star Wars(1977), Empire Strikes Back(1980), Raiders of the Lost Ark(1981) to Return of the Jedi(1983), Temple of Doom(1984), multiple Ewok spin-offs(1985-86), and Captain EO(1986). That is quite a fall from grace. Those before 1982 = American classics. Those after = confessions of a troubled mind. My guess is cocaine was the culprit, and that he got sober sometime in the late 80s, and managed to churn out a few more American classics in Willow(1988) and Last Crusade(1989), before falling off the wagon for good, with Beverly Hills Cop III(1996?) as his high-point since before the beginning of the Clinton presidency until now. His greatest achievement later in his life has been to hand the reigns to someone capable. Still, whoever above said Attack of the Clones is superior to Return of the Jedi is out of their mind.

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What about his buddy Francis Ford Coppolla's downfall?

(Speaking of which, I finally saw Godfather III in the past year or so, and it wasn't that bad. Though, as some have said, Al Pacino is playing Al Pacino as Michael Corleone.)

Too bad a Bay Area guy like Lucas, who grew up watching KRON, is a USC alum. Hopefully the Trojans won't get a big chunk of his fortune.

Lucas handed off the Star Wars franchise, yes. But it was more in a passive aggressive way.

Read this to see what I'm talking about:
http://www.vox.com/2015/12/15/10218908/george-lucas-star-wars-force-awakens


(Also, a recent Washington Post article quoted him as saying he hasn't used the Internet since 2000....)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/george-lucas-to-feel-the-true-force-of-star-wars-he-had-to-learn-to-let-it-go/2015/11/27/d752067a-8b1f-11e5-be8b-1ae2e4f50f76_story.html

MiZery;842617515 said:

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Anyone watching tonight? Been getting awesome reviews...

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When Darth Vader says "Luke, I am your father". I was totally blown away.

GivemTheAxe;842617923 said:

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When Darth Vader says "Luke, I am your father". I was totally blown away.

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The Trade Federation stuff really bored me

GivemTheAxe;842617923 said:

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When Darth Vader says "Luke, I am your father". I was totally blown away.

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When he said, "Luke, go back to playing quarterback," I was even more blown away.

I highly recommend the Star Wars fan film series "Pink Five" (found somewhere on the Internet) about a valley girl pilot/Jedi whose story hilariously parallels the original trilogy (and is the true hero of the epic).

ShareBear;842617895 said:

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Still, whoever above said Attack of the Clones is superior to Return of the Jedi is out of their mind.

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That was me. I'm down on the Ewok's, and there's not a whole lot else in that movie. Luke's crowning Jedi achievement is defeating Jabba the Hut's crew. meh.

With AOTC, there's something about a movie with the courage to have its central character that you are rooting for, commit genocide. It's sort of like Breaking Bad to me. Anyway, I enjoyed that movie.

It's odd that Asia and the UK would get it a full 24 hours or more than the United States.

A lot of people tweeting about it last night and early this morning.

dajo9;842618036 said:

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That was me. I'm down on the Ewok's, and there's not a whole lot else in that movie. Luke's crowning Jedi achievement is defeating Jabba the Hut's crew. meh.

With AOTC, there's something about a movie with the courage to have its central character that you are rooting for, commit genocide. It's sort of like Breaking Bad to me. Anyway, I enjoyed that movie.

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I was re-watching parts of Return of the Jedi last night and man, aside from the space battle stuff, a lot of that movie was Ewok fluff and father-son crap. The conclusion is satisfying but a lot leading up to it is actually kind of disappointing. Attack of the Clones though, good Lord that had some horrid writing but does drown you in some decent special effects, so it's a push.

NYCGOBEARS;842617722 said:

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If you thought Lucas marketed the heck outta Star Wars, wait until you see what Disney's gonna do. Star Wars On Ice?...

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Robot Chicken has done a great send up of "Star Wars on Ice".

[video=youtube;IXdRga6mzcw][/video]

who's lining up already?

[video=youtube;1RGohIKxc9M][/video]

I'm sitting in a theater for a 7:15 showing.

CalAlumnus13;842618327 said:

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I'm sitting in a theater for a 7:15 showing.

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NO spoilers! I have to wait til Sunday.

I just got in line for the 10:45 showing ... Excited to say the least

I am in the theatre and got great seats. So pumped

I heard that the dude from Corvette Summer, the greatest movie ever, is in it. True?

[video=youtube;4W9pmT6JTO4][/video]

NVGolfingBear;842618332 said:

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NO spoilers! I have to wait til Sunday.

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It's good.

Didn't quite feel like Star Wars to me at first because of the camera work, but I thought the dialogue was reminiscent of the original trilogy.

It was good. Very entertaining. Not saying anymore to avoid any spoilers ....

Anybody watch J.J. Abrams' other hit movie of 2015: Mission Impossible: Rogue Nation?

That was pretty awesome.

okaydo;842618494 said:

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Anybody watch J.J. Abrams' other hit movie of 2015: Mission Impossible: Rogue Nation?

That was pretty awesome.

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He hasn't directed either of the last two MI films.

HaloBear;842618498 said:

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He hasn't directed either of the last two MI films.

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But he has produced the last two MI films.