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burritos said:

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Sorry, quarterly bump. Keep throwing money into this thing? Allocation is skewed and rebalancing model is having me put all new contributions into bonds/even sell equity positions to bring the balance in alignment. Hate it when I can't do equities. Ignore and be greedy?

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stay away from bonds.....unless less than 2 years...

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I'm about 20 years away. No bonds really?

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Posting OT on regular boards led to my 8 month exile.

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Post away here, no one will discourage you or move them.

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Anytime you want to move this to the OT board would be just fine.

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Yogi, you are such a purist. I consider the OT board my private playground because as NYCB pointed out, "No one reads that board."

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Curmudgeon would be more apt. The arguably off topic threads do yogi no harm, yet he harps on moving them. Unless its an off topic thread he likes, in which case, he posts in it and say nothing.

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I could always ask the mods to move every single OT thread if that would make you happier.

Coincidentally, the market continues to do so well that I have been selling equities too (and putting the proceeds into a money market fund. Can't buy bonds just yet.) just to stay at my allocation. I think I have enough money set aside (along with dividends and small pension) to survive a very long bear market.
It wasn't that long ago, 2009, that I thought I'd never be able to retire. Keep investing if you are still working. You never know.

Great lesson from this thread. Don't try to time the market!

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Yogi Bear said:

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Anytime you want to move this to the OT board would be just fine.

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Yogi, you are such a purist. I consider the OT board my private playground because as NYCB pointed out, "No one reads that board."

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Curmudgeon would be more apt. The arguably off topic threads do yogi no harm, yet he harps on moving them. Unless its an off topic thread he likes, in which case, he posts in it and say nothing.

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I could always ask the mods to move every single OT thread if that would make you happier.

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I vote do the opposite. Of course if you can't help it, then do the opposite of that.

Who here is buying LiteCoin by the way?

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Great lesson from this thread. Don't try to time the market!

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I literally thought of this thread in response to a news story this week about the market breaking another threshold.

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Yogi Bear said:

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Anytime you want to move this to the OT board would be just fine.

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Yogi, you are such a purist. I consider the OT board my private playground because as NYCB pointed out, "No one reads that board."

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Curmudgeon would be more apt. The arguably off topic threads do yogi no harm, yet he harps on moving them. Unless its an off topic thread he likes, in which case, he posts in it and say nothing.

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I could always ask the mods to move every single OT thread if that would make you happier.

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I vote do the opposite. Of course if you can't help it, then do the opposite of that.

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I thought about telling BearGoggles how good of a post he made, but then I couldn't help it and did the opposite of that.

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Anytime you want to move this to the OT board would be just fine.

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Yogi, you are such a purist. I consider the OT board my private playground because as NYCB pointed out, "No one reads that board."

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Curmudgeon would be more apt. The arguably off topic threads do yogi no harm, yet he harps on moving them. Unless its an off topic thread he likes, in which case, he posts in it and say nothing.

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I could always ask the mods to move every single OT thread if that would make you happier.

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Actually, if you did, I would at least respect you as being intellectually honest. Instead, you come across as a sniveller who can't tolerate discussions/viewpoints he disagrees with or that don't interest you. All while hypocritically participating in OT threads that do interest you.

Rather than lobbying for OT discussion to be moved, why don't you just ignore them? There are plenty of threads - both on topic and off - I chose not to read (or read once and don't revisit).

Crypto is where the money is going. I've been dabbling there and so far have about a 300% return in two weeks. I wouldn't recommend it for the front of heart but there is massive money to be made before the crypto bubble bursts.

Honestly your best bet is real estate and renting out duplex's and triplexs for the best rate of return.

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Great lesson from this thread. Don't try to time the market!

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I literally thought of this thread in response to a news story this week about the market breaking another threshold.

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If Drump and Kimmy manage to pop a few off, that's when it's time to in. It'll make your grandchildren rich.

I work in an industry that feels economic pain before almost any other. We are the first ones to experience the slowdowns of a recession, but are also usually the first ones to recover from it.

I can tell you right now, with 90% certainty, that there will be no slowdown for Q1 of 2018.

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I work in an industry that feels economic pain before almost any other. We are the first ones to experience the slowdowns of a recession, but are also usually the first ones to recover from it.

I can tell you right now, with 90% certainty, that there will be no slowdown for Q1 of 2018.

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More details please so that we an learn something for the day.

Plus would a couple of nukes going off in the world affect the industry?

Sells corrugated boxes

A friend thinks snap chat is a good investment. Comments?

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A friend thinks snap chat is a good investment. Comments?

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My friend thinks Red is a good investment. Comments?

I know you folks are worried about me and my bad call in this thread. Please don't worry for me - 2017 was the best year for me ever financially. Certainly I left a good amount of money on the table but my bond investments made money, my portfolio is greatly de-risked from an equity standpoint, and I comfortably achieved my financial goals for the year. The one thing that could really hurt me (and this has been true all of the past year) is a rise in long term treasury rates - which has not happened and I don't see happening in this cycle, unless maybe for a temporary spike.

I'm standing pat with a lower than recommended allocation in equities, as I'm averse to buying in at these levels - so I wait and console myself with the words of Bernard Baruch:

"I made my money by selling too soon"

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I know you folks are worried about me and my bad call in this thread. Please don't worry for me - 2017 was the best year for me ever financially. Certainly I left a good amount of money on the table but my bond investments made money, my portfolio is greatly de-risked from an equity standpoint, and I comfortably achieved my financial goals for the year. The one thing that could really hurt me (and this has been true all of the past year) is a rise in long term treasury rates - which has not happened and I don't see happening in this cycle, unless maybe for a temporary spike.

I'm standing pat with a lower than recommended allocation in equities, as I'm averse to buying in at these levels - so I wait and console myself with the words of Bernard Baruch:

"I made my money by selling too soon"

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Nice work, and I couldn't agree with your philosophy more. Staying more risk averse and making money is not all bad. Greed can be.

I would suggest you may have had the best week in the last 53 last week too, with bonds and stocks going crazy.

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I know you folks are worried about me and my bad call in this thread. Please don't worry for me - 2017 was the best year for me ever financially. Certainly I left a good amount of money on the table but my bond investments made money, my portfolio is greatly de-risked from an equity standpoint, and I comfortably achieved my financial goals for the year. The one thing that could really hurt me (and this has been true all of the past year) is a rise in long term treasury rates - which has not happened and I don't see happening in this cycle, unless maybe for a temporary spike.

I'm standing pat with a lower than recommended allocation in equities, as I'm averse to buying in at these levels - so I wait and console myself with the words of Bernard Baruch:

"I made my money by selling too soon"

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Way to be positive. My money market fund made money too just not as much as my stocks.

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I know you folks are worried about me and my bad call in this thread. Please don't worry for me - 2017 was the best year for me ever financially. Certainly I left a good amount of money on the table but my bond investments made money, my portfolio is greatly de-risked from an equity standpoint, and I comfortably achieved my financial goals for the year. The one thing that could really hurt me (and this has been true all of the past year) is a rise in long term treasury rates - which has not happened and I don't see happening in this cycle, unless maybe for a temporary spike.

I'm standing pat with a lower than recommended allocation in equities, as I'm averse to buying in at these levels - so I wait and console myself with the words of Bernard Baruch:

"I made my money by selling too soon"

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Not worried about you. You know what you're doing. However, when the market tanks, this thread is going to be hilariously prescient and we can collectively commiserate, including the bondholders, cause nothing will go unscathed.

I haven't been able to frequent this forum all that much lately, but I'm somewhat surprised this thread wasn't at least on page 1...

I pretty much went all cash a little over a week back in both college accounts for our children, my roth ira, my individual account, and most of my 401K. Liquidated were heavy positions in the SPY, QQQ and AAPL.

I had already inputted buy orders to peel back into AAPL, in all of those accounts, except my 401k, which I forgot to do. Got fills today in the 156s. Additional buy orders sit lower, just below 150 and in the 142s. Starting to look for entry points for the SPY and QQQ. For the SPY, I'm eyeballing:

250
218
182

For QQQ:

156
145
136
115

Get that shopping list ready, if you haven't already....

When I jump it will be as a pistolero.

Cal89stradamus how low do you think it will go?

Is there blood in the streets yet?

strange day indeed when my weed stocks are more 'stable' than the FAANGs (or whatever they're called).

while i have been nibbling on spxu over the last few months (which, if memory serves, is a leveraged short etf... just a dumb engineer/mba so someone else can probably tell me i'm wrong), i tend to think today was just an overdue adjustment. fundamentals of the economy are strong (employment, housing, no real scary indicators that i know of, earnings, and all of this with interest rates getting nudged up).

and in my eyes, since Trump is basically a daily disaster it seems like people don't freak out when the next bit of wonderful news comes out on that front. Whereas in a more sane world I think things like indictments of campaign personnel / cabinet members and possible federal charges against the executive branch might cause an investor freakout, it seems we're deaf to such news. Yay?

good timing if you went cash though a few weeks ago, should be able to grab some stuff cheap(ish) in the coming weeks as this settles out

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Is there blood in the streets yet?

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in philly, almost assuredly

Have no idea how low. Usually lower than most think or hope though... Finding support and resistance spots, that I've gotten pretty good at. My pop emailed me at mkt close knowing that my 156s on AAPL were likely filled, and played very well. Hoping it goes down more though...

I layer-in, for that reason. I now have about 6 entry points for each the SPY and QQQ to consider. Once I decide how much I want to allocate into each, and for my various accounts, then I'll input the orders, usually going a bit heavy on the first purchase, then lighter in the middle prices, then a little heavier for what I think might be the low. So, if I've decided upon three desirable entry prices for an equity, and have let's say $100k for it, I'll go 50% on the first one, then something like 20%, and the third 30% (50k, 20k and 30k)...

I also have funds in savings too, earning a little something, just for this purpose, and I'm willing to move those over for any addtional opportunities. I've only needed to do that twice in my life though, but I'm ready. I will gladly go on margin for a couple days until the funds clear. Usually just one day...

Today's volume was pretty dang healthy. Not sure if it's capitulation type of volume, or "blood on the streets" though. It didn't quite feel that way to me... Would love to see massive volume on a huge down day, then the market roar back off the bottom, closing well above the lows. That has often marked bottoms.

Until then, setting-up my shopping lists...

Well guess what, prior to re-balancing last Friday, noticed that international stocks have gone up 25% in the last year, know inflation is coming and long-term and short-term treasuries are not diverging yet which means there is going to be a blood bath in treasuries and hikes in short-term fixed-income, so I dove into short-term fixed-income and international equities, shrank my large-cap and am going mostly domestic small and mid-cap. I knew a correction was coming, but not this much this early.

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Have no idea how low. Usually lower than most think or hope though... Finding support and resistance spots, that I've gotten pretty good at. My pop emailed me at mkt close knowing that my 156s on AAPL were likely filled, and played very well. Hoping it goes down more though...

I layer-in, for that reason. I now have about 6 entry points for each the SPY and QQQ to consider. Once I decide how much I want to allocate into each, and for my various accounts, then I'll input the orders, usually going a bit heavy on the first purchase, then lighter in the middle prices, then a little heavier for what I think might be the low. So, if I've decided upon three desirable entry prices for an equity, and have let's say $100k for it, I'll go 50% on the first one, then something like 20%, and the third 30% (50k, 20k and 30k)...

I also have funds in savings too, earning a little something, just for this purpose, and I'm willing to move those over for any addtional opportunities. I've only needed to do that twice in my life though, but I'm ready. I will gladly go on margin for a couple days until the funds clear. Usually just one day...

Today's volume was pretty dang healthy. Not sure if it's capitulation type of volume, or "blood on the streets" though. It didn't quite feel that way to me... Would love to see massive volume on a huge down day, then the market roar back off the bottom, closing well above the lows. That has often marked bottoms.

Until then, setting-up my shopping lists...

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I moved about 30% of my 401k equities to cash a few weeks ago... and ALMOST did another 30% last week: Darn!

I'm a little cynical, long-term (1-2 yrs... that's not really long-term, is it...) , but I think the market will come back for most of the rest of this year. If there's a good little panic the next couple of days or so, it might be a good time to get back in for 6-9 months.

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strange day indeed when my weed stocks are more 'stable' than the FAANGs (or whatever they're called).

while i have been nibbling on spxu over the last few months (which, if memory serves, is a leveraged short etf... just a dumb engineer/mba so someone else can probably tell me i'm wrong), i tend to think today was just an overdue adjustment. fundamentals of the economy are strong (employment, housing, no real scary indicators that i know of, earnings, and all of this with interest rates getting nudged up).

and in my eyes, since Trump is basically a daily disaster it seems like people don't freak out when the next bit of wonderful news comes out on that front. Whereas in a more sane world I think things like indictments of campaign personnel / cabinet members and possible federal charges against the executive branch might cause an investor freakout, it seems we're deaf to such news. Yay?

good timing if you went cash though a few weeks ago, should be able to grab some stuff cheap(ish) in the coming weeks as this settles out

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Wait whaaat? Is there a weed ETF available?

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Have no idea how low. Usually lower than most think or hope though... Finding support and resistance spots, that I've gotten pretty good at. My pop emailed me at mkt close knowing that my 156s on AAPL were likely filled, and played very well. Hoping it goes down more though...

I layer-in, for that reason. I now have about 6 entry points for each the SPY and QQQ to consider. Once I decide how much I want to allocate into each, and for my various accounts, then I'll input the orders, usually going a bit heavy on the first purchase, then lighter in the middle prices, then a little heavier for what I think might be the low. So, if I've decided upon three desirable entry prices for an equity, and have let's say $100k for it, I'll go 50% on the first one, then something like 20%, and the third 30% (50k, 20k and 30k)...

I also have funds in savings too, earning a little something, just for this purpose, and I'm willing to move those over for any addtional opportunities. I've only needed to do that twice in my life though, but I'm ready. I will gladly go on margin for a couple days until the funds clear. Usually just one day...

Today's volume was pretty dang healthy. Not sure if it's capitulation type of volume, or "blood on the streets" though. It didn't quite feel that way to me... Would love to see massive volume on a huge down day, then the market roar back off the bottom, closing well above the lows. That has often marked bottoms.

Until then, setting-up my shopping lists...

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I moved about 30% of my 401k equities to cash a few weeks ago... and ALMOST did another 30% last week: Darn!

I'm a little cynical, long-term (1-2 yrs... that's not really long-term, is it...) , but I think the market will come back for most of the rest of this year. If there's a good little panic the next couple of days or so, it might be a good time to get back in for 6-9 months.

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Now that I look back, I actually did a pretty big chuck of my 401K in the fall. I played my Roth IRA a lot longer, as stated above. Looks like from Jan 19th to Jan 26 was my most recent, and largest liquidation, in all of my accounts. Layering back-in already, and hopefully more tomorrow and the coming days/week. An up mkt on weak volume, I might play the downside, and buy a put...

2018 might indeed still be a good one. There is a saying... As January goes, so goes the year. Either way, I'm shopping while prices are relatively low, with the understanding they might still go lower; and if wrong, at least I'm somewhat back-in already...

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There is a saying... As January goes, so goes the year.

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How'd that work out in 2016? Dow was down 5%+ in January (with the worst start to a year ever) and ended up up 13%+ for the year.