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Ron Rivera. He must have learned something about offense while coaching in the NFL all those years, right?

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He got fired because he lost three games where he couldn't get his team to score a go ahead TD from 10 yards or closer with time running out.

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I'd still take him as OC without hesitation. I think at Ron's level of coaching the knowledge barrier between offense and defense get proportionately smaller. Ron has had a chance to learn from competent NFL OCs for 9 seasons. There is definitely a character to the Panthers offense that has survived through the OC regimes. Ron knows how to coach an offense, even if he's not as good at it as he is coaching defense. I have a high level of respect for the ability level of NFL head coaches. They survive far more at being good at coaching football than college coaches, who succeed far more with being likable than NFL coaches can.

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I can't shake the idea that an OC ought to come in with an offensive system - plays, blocking schemes, pass routes, timing, adjustments to defenses, etc. Ought to be experienced in designing offensive game plans from that system. Ought to be experienced in play calling from that system and making adjustments - half time and on the fly.

I don't see how someone who hasn't done this as a career (even a recent one) can put this all together in a matter of weeks before spring. A great coach may be able to lead, to motivate players and assistants, manage their side of the team, recruit, but have no foundation to work from.

We need an OC who has an O and can coach it and relate it to the hc, assistants and players and recruits.

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Do we really need to debate whether Ron Rivera should be our next OC?

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Nope.

Of course, this discussion reminds me of the fabled Denny Schuler. He was the DC at Oregon in 1992. In '93, Cal hired him as an OC. Following a particularly miserable offensive performance v. ASU in his first season, the word was "As an OC, Schuler coaches like a great DC".

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Denny Schuler was a rising star, highly respected coordinator who seemed to be on the fast track to an HC position . . . until he came to Cal.

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How many guys have been a position coach for a guy who played in the NFL as a QB and another who played in the NFL as a LB? It is certainly unusual...

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My guess of the today is Kellen Moore. There's the Boise State connection to JW. Moore has an odd resume that seems to make him a reasonable candidate....he has OC experience (checks the box) but only 1 year, in the pros and under the HC who really runs the O (so going to college where he can actually be in charge could make some sense). Plus it seems pretty likely the Cowboys are going to have changes in the coaching staff so Moore will likely be available.

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Good guess... My guess would be Helfrich or Moore. Both have ties to Wilcox and college football in the west and both have an offensive coaching background and, of course, both are potential coaching casualties at the pro level.

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If not one of these two, someone with similar background. I'm in lockstep with '71.

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My guess is we're going to be underwhelmed with Wilcox's OC hire, but we'll be pleasantly surprised with the results. Sort of like the DeRuyter hire. Wilcox's first OC hire was splashy and didn't pan out, so I'm thinking Wilcox goes with an out of work veteran OC this time around. Someone who hasn't impressed of late but was successful in the past.

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I think that if the OC hire was not currently employed he would be with the team right now and Baldwin would be at Cal Poly hiring, recruiting, getting to know the team, buying a house, etc.

The practices before the bowl game are largely seen as developmental for next year. The new OC could have met with recruits to reassure them before signing day. The new OC could be assessing the talent and start strategizing for next year. As for the Red Box Bowl, Baldwin's playbook was vanilla enough that, working with the other assistants, putting together a game plan and calling plays shouldn't be a stretch for someone in the profession unless they only have experience with a arcane offense, which I very much doubt would be Wilcox's choice.

No, my bet is the OC is employed elsewhere and will be announced after whatever bowl game or final NFL season game he is coaching is played.

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Could be, or could be that the recruits (at least the key offensive ones) already know who the new OC will be as he's been tentatively hired for a couple weeks and we're just waiting on the state employee hiring bureaucracy (paperwork passing through and sitting on several different desks for sign off, candidates from every major race needing to be interviewed, budgets needing to be amended, etc.)

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Could it also be that the new OC is already on the staff (internal promotion)?

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Then why wait 10 days to announce? Why not let the new OC take the reigns for the bowl game and let Baldwin move on?

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Because the official paperwork has not been approved. Best to have BB continue for the continuity sake.

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We completed interview, negotiations and contract signing with our men's basketball HC in two or three days.

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Fox was hired five days after Jones' termination was announced. Given that Knowlton used a search firm, and more than one person was part of process, I'm going out on a limb and say vetting, contacting coaches, interviews, and a contract took longer 2 to 3 days, longer than 5 days and started way before Jones was terminated. Think about how many folks have to approve the contract: the AD, Campus Legal, the Chancellor, UC VP-Legal, UC President, and Board of Regents (absent prior delegation), and that is just the Cal side, also Fox. Fox's attorney. and Fox's agent.

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Knowlton was originally going to keep Jones and only fired him after massive pushback:
https://www.sfchronicle.com/collegesports/article/Cal-reverses-field-fires-basketball-coach-Wyking-13712829.php

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A clear case of don't believe everything you read.

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And a clear case of "believe what you want to believe..."

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Agreed, but perhaps not in the way you intended.

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Yogi go home.

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Joker said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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My guess is we're going to be underwhelmed with Wilcox's OC hire, but we'll be pleasantly surprised with the results. Sort of like the DeRuyter hire. Wilcox's first OC hire was splashy and didn't pan out, so I'm thinking Wilcox goes with an out of work veteran OC this time around. Someone who hasn't impressed of late but was successful in the past.

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I think that if the OC hire was not currently employed he would be with the team right now and Baldwin would be at Cal Poly hiring, recruiting, getting to know the team, buying a house, etc.

The practices before the bowl game are largely seen as developmental for next year. The new OC could have met with recruits to reassure them before signing day. The new OC could be assessing the talent and start strategizing for next year. As for the Red Box Bowl, Baldwin's playbook was vanilla enough that, working with the other assistants, putting together a game plan and calling plays shouldn't be a stretch for someone in the profession unless they only have experience with a arcane offense, which I very much doubt would be Wilcox's choice.

No, my bet is the OC is employed elsewhere and will be announced after whatever bowl game or final NFL season game he is coaching is played.

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Could be, or could be that the recruits (at least the key offensive ones) already know who the new OC will be as he's been tentatively hired for a couple weeks and we're just waiting on the state employee hiring bureaucracy (paperwork passing through and sitting on several different desks for sign off, candidates from every major race needing to be interviewed, budgets needing to be amended, etc.)

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Could it also be that the new OC is already on the staff (internal promotion)?

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Then why wait 10 days to announce? Why not let the new OC take the reigns for the bowl game and let Baldwin move on?

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Because the official paperwork has not been approved. Best to have BB continue for the continuity sake.

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We completed interview, negotiations and contract signing with our men's basketball HC in two or three days.

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Fox was hired five days after Jones' termination was announced. Given that Knowlton used a search firm, and more than one person was part of process, I'm going out on a limb and say vetting, contacting coaches, interviews, and a contract took longer 2 to 3 days, longer than 5 days and started way before Jones was terminated. Think about how many folks have to approve the contract: the AD, Campus Legal, the Chancellor, UC VP-Legal, UC President, and Board of Regents (absent prior delegation), and that is just the Cal side, also Fox. Fox's attorney. and Fox's agent.

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Knowlton was originally going to keep Jones and only fired him after massive pushback:
https://www.sfchronicle.com/collegesports/article/Cal-reverses-field-fires-basketball-coach-Wyking-13712829.php

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A clear case of don't believe everything you read.

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And a clear case of "believe what you want to believe..."

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Agreed, but perhaps not in the way you intended.

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Yogi go home.

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This really doesn't matter how Knowlton fired or hired the basketball coach. This is an assistant coach being hired by a head coach, and I assume with oversight of the AD and his department. That is different than a head coach selection. To the extent of the many hypotheticals about rehiring Jones and firing of Jones; to wit, Knowlton changed his mind because of donors, no actually it was due to player parents making calls, no ti was due the moon being in the wrong zodiac or whatever, it was fairly obvious that a new coach has to be considered and the search firm which everyone agrees was used, didn't vet and provide guys overnight. It just doesn't work that way. They call agents, look at salary structures, fit, talk to certain alums, etc. As for what Eric purportedly said, maybe you should leave that to Eric, instead of misquoting him.

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My guess is we're going to be underwhelmed with Wilcox's OC hire, but we'll be pleasantly surprised with the results. Sort of like the DeRuyter hire. Wilcox's first OC hire was splashy and didn't pan out, so I'm thinking Wilcox goes with an out of work veteran OC this time around. Someone who hasn't impressed of late but was successful in the past.

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I think that if the OC hire was not currently employed he would be with the team right now and Baldwin would be at Cal Poly hiring, recruiting, getting to know the team, buying a house, etc.

The practices before the bowl game are largely seen as developmental for next year. The new OC could have met with recruits to reassure them before signing day. The new OC could be assessing the talent and start strategizing for next year. As for the Red Box Bowl, Baldwin's playbook was vanilla enough that, working with the other assistants, putting together a game plan and calling plays shouldn't be a stretch for someone in the profession unless they only have experience with a arcane offense, which I very much doubt would be Wilcox's choice.

No, my bet is the OC is employed elsewhere and will be announced after whatever bowl game or final NFL season game he is coaching is played.

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Could be, or could be that the recruits (at least the key offensive ones) already know who the new OC will be as he's been tentatively hired for a couple weeks and we're just waiting on the state employee hiring bureaucracy (paperwork passing through and sitting on several different desks for sign off, candidates from every major race needing to be interviewed, budgets needing to be amended, etc.)

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Could it also be that the new OC is already on the staff (internal promotion)?

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Then why wait 10 days to announce? Why not let the new OC take the reigns for the bowl game and let Baldwin move on?

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Because the official paperwork has not been approved. Best to have BB continue for the continuity sake.

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We completed interview, negotiations and contract signing with our men's basketball HC in two or three days.

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Fox was hired five days after Jones' termination was announced. Given that Knowlton used a search firm, and more than one person was part of process, I'm going out on a limb and say vetting, contacting coaches, interviews, and a contract took longer 2 to 3 days, longer than 5 days and started way before Jones was terminated. Think about how many folks have to approve the contract: the AD, Campus Legal, the Chancellor, UC VP-Legal, UC President, and Board of Regents (absent prior delegation), and that is just the Cal side, also Fox. Fox's attorney. and Fox's agent.

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Knowlton was originally going to keep Jones and only fired him after massive pushback:
https://www.sfchronicle.com/collegesports/article/Cal-reverses-field-fires-basketball-coach-Wyking-13712829.php

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A clear case of don't believe everything you read.

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And a clear case of "believe what you want to believe..."

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Agreed, but perhaps not in the way you intended.

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Yogi go home.

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This really doesn't matter how Knowlton fired or hired the basketball coach. This is an assistant coach being hired by a head coach, and I assume with oversight of the AD and his department. That is different than a head coach selection. To the extent of the many hypotheticals about rehiring Jones and firing of Jones; to wit, Knowlton changed his mind because of donors, no actually it was due to player parents making calls, no ti was due the moon being in the wrong zodiac or whatever, it was fairly obvious that a new coach has to be considered and the search firm which everyone agrees was used, didn't vet and provide guys overnight. It just doesn't work that way. They call agents, look at salary structures, fit, talk to certain alums, etc. As for what Eric purportedly said, maybe you should leave that to Eric, instead of misquoting him.

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The reason I brought up Fox's hiring is that by all accounts he was named within a few days after Knowlton interviewed and selected him. This was to refute the suggestion that Wilcox has selected an OC and the reason it would take 10 days to name him is "Cal bureaucracy."

I do think Wilcox has selected an OC but I think he is waiting until the OC (and/or Baldwin) has played out their current season before naming them.

Interesting stuff. A lot of substantive action behind the scenes is how I read this.

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Interesting stuff. A lot of substantive action behind the scenes is how I read this.

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So Helfrich is available, and Kellen Moore should be soon.

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Harry HIESTAND:

@ Missouri (OL 1994-96): "After a five-year stint at Cincinnati, went to the University of Missouri. With the Tigers, Hiestand helped MU to a No. 9 national ranking in rushing at 250.7 yards per game in 1996. In that same year, three of Hiestand's offensive lineman garnered All-Big 12 honors."

@ Illinois: "From 1997-2004, Hiestand served as offensive line coach in Ron Turner's system and also was assistant head coach from 2000 until his departure.

During his tenure at Illinois, Hiestand tutored 12 all-Big Ten selections on the offensive line. Every senior starting offensive lineman in Hiestand's first seven years with the Illini was signed to an NFL contract:
* Ryan Schau (1995-98),
* J. P. Machado (1995-98),
* Marques Sullivan (1997-2000),
* Ray Redziniak (1997-2000),
* Luke Butkus (1998-2001),
* Dave Diehl (1999-2002),
* Tony Pashos (1999-2002)."

@ Notre Dame (OL 2012-17): "After spending two years coaching the offensive line at the University of Tennessee from 2010-2012, Hiestand was hired to the same post at the University of Notre Dame under head coach Brian Kelly. Since reaching the BCS National Championship Game during his first season at Notre Dame, Hiestand has developed a number of current NFL offensive linemen with the Fighting Irish, including:
* Zack Martin, Dallas Cowboys offensive guard
* Chris Watt, Former New Orleans Saints offensive guard
* Ronnie Stanley, Baltimore Ravens offensive tackle
* Nick Martin, Houston Texans offensive guard
* Quenton Nelson, Indianapolis Colts offensive guard
* Mike McGlinchey, San Francisco 49ers offensive tackle"

Not impressed with helfrich as an OC. He's only had success when the HC was the prime offense mind. Chip Kelly, dirk koetter etc. Nice guy, good man, but underwhelming results

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Not impressed with helfrich as an OC. He's only had success when the HC was the prime offense mind. Chip Kelly, dirk koetter etc. Nice guy, good man, but underwhelming results

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When your resume includes "OC of the 2019 Chicago Bears," that would make you the last person on earth that should be considered for an OC job. Which means he's probably already been hired by Wilcox

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Harry HIESTAND:

@ Missouri (OL 1994-96): "After a five-year stint at Cincinnati, went to the University of Missouri. With the Tigers, Hiestand helped MU to a No. 9 national ranking in rushing at 250.7 yards per game in 1996. In that same year, three of Hiestand's offensive lineman garnered All-Big 12 honors."

@ Illinois: "From 1997-2004, Hiestand served as offensive line coach in Ron Turner's system and also was assistant head coach from 2000 until his departure.

During his tenure at Illinois, Hiestand tutored 12 all-Big Ten selections on the offensive line. Every senior starting offensive lineman in Hiestand's first seven years with the Illini was signed to an NFL contract:
* Ryan Schau (1995-98),
* J. P. Machado (1995-98),
* Marques Sullivan (1997-2000),
* Ray Redziniak (1997-2000),
* Luke Butkus (1998-2001),
* Dave Diehl (1999-2002),
* Tony Pashos (1999-2002)."

@ Notre Dame (OL 2012-17): "After spending two years coaching the offensive line at the University of Tennessee from 2010-2012, Hiestand was hired to the same post at the University of Notre Dame under head coach Brian Kelly. Since reaching the BCS National Championship Game during his first season at Notre Dame, Hiestand has developed a number of current NFL offensive linemen with the Fighting Irish, including:
* Zack Martin, Dallas Cowboys offensive guard
* Chris Watt, Former New Orleans Saints offensive guard
* Ronnie Stanley, Baltimore Ravens offensive tackle
* Nick Martin, Houston Texans offensive guard
* Quenton Nelson, Indianapolis Colts offensive guard
* Mike McGlinchey, San Francisco 49ers offensive tackle"

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If he wanted Greatwood's job, I'd take him. But not for OC.

Again, the 2019 Chicago Bears offensive staff are right up there with Jeff Fisher's offensive staff when he coached the Rams on the "NEVER HIRE THESE PEOPLE" list for OC.

A quick search indicates those are some damn well qualified coaches we are moving on from.

Some folks on this list have really done their homework. To folks who don't follow Cal you'd think anyone who could come in and coach us to good offensive production must be great. And that would lead to a bigger, better job. But those close to the program know that the new OC is walking into a great situation regardless of this year's statistics.

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A quick search indicates those are some damn well qualified coaches we are moving on from.

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Kevin Gilbride would be fun. He and Buddy Ryan came to blows on the sidelines years ago.

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Not impressed with helfrich as an OC. He's only had success when the HC was the prime offense mind. Chip Kelly, dirk koetter etc. Nice guy, good man, but underwhelming results

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When your resume includes "OC of the 2019 Chicago Bears," that would make you the last person on earth that should be considered for an OC job. Which means he's probably already been hired by Wilcox

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Well he was the prime offensive mind after Chip left and he still got Oregon to the national championship game. I think that's pretty good.

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So we ARE looking for a TE coach

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Not impressed with helfrich as an OC. He's only had success when the HC was the prime offense mind. Chip Kelly, dirk koetter etc. Nice guy, good man, but underwhelming results

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When your resume includes "OC of the 2019 Chicago Bears," that would make you the last person on earth that should be considered for an OC job. Which means he's probably already been hired by Wilcox

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Well he was the prime offensive mind after Chip left and he still got Oregon to the national championship game. I think that's pretty good.

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I'm still shaking my head about all this speculation. Maybe Kellen Moore, maybe. But, he's the only one I think of the NFL names mentioned has even a remote chance of coming here. "How you gonna keep 'im down on the farm (no pun intended), after he's seen Paree?"

I still think it's gonna be an up-and-comer from MWC or Sky team or the equiv. A name we haven't considered. Something like that.

Don't forget, we're not super-competitive on pay, we're more demanding on grades, and JW is likely to look for a balanced, clock-eating O.

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Not impressed with helfrich as an OC. He's only had success when the HC was the prime offense mind. Chip Kelly, dirk koetter etc. Nice guy, good man, but underwhelming results

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When your resume includes "OC of the 2019 Chicago Bears," that would make you the last person on earth that should be considered for an OC job. Which means he's probably already been hired by Wilcox

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Well he was the prime offensive mind after Chip left and he still got Oregon to the national championship game. I think that's pretty good.

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I'm still shaking my head about all this speculation. Maybe Kellen Moore, maybe. But, he's the only one I think of the NFL names mentioned has even a remote chance of coming here. "How you gonna keep 'im down on the farm (no pun intended), after he's seen Paree?"

I still think it's gonna be an up-and-comer from MWC or Sky team or the equiv. A name we haven't considered. Something like that.

Don't forget, we're not super-competitive on pay, we're more demanding on grades, and JW is likely to look for a balanced, clock-eating O.

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On the plus side, any OC who takes our job walks into a virtually intact 2-deep with a 3rd year starter QB. Also they get to be OC on a defensive HC team, giving them more autonomy.

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It's been four days since this thread has been up. Let's see... ten minus four is six... today is the 23rd... if we get to the 30th and still no OC hire -- even with the minor distraction of a bowl game that day -- it's going to be something special, to watch some folks here go into meltdown mode about the "delay".

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tick... tock... tick... tock...

It's now been TWELVE DAYS! I think it's safe to say that the sky is falling and we are doomed, no way around it.

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A quick search indicates those are some damn well qualified coaches we are moving on from.

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Those are "Chicago Bears" NOT Cal Bears

tequila4kapp said:

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A quick search indicates those are some damn well qualified coaches we are moving on from.

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I interpreted the tweet as to say the Chicago Bears were moving on from the coaches mentioned. nothing is said about any interest from Cal.

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Not impressed with helfrich as an OC. He's only had success when the HC was the prime offense mind. Chip Kelly, dirk koetter etc. Nice guy, good man, but underwhelming results

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When your resume includes "OC of the 2019 Chicago Bears," that would make you the last person on earth that should be considered for an OC job. Which means he's probably already been hired by Wilcox

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Well he was the prime offensive mind after Chip left and he still got Oregon to the national championship game. I think that's pretty good.

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I'm still shaking my head about all this speculation. Maybe Kellen Moore, maybe. But, he's the only one I think of the NFL names mentioned has even a remote chance of coming here. "How you gonna keep 'im down on the farm (no pun intended), after he's seen Paree?"

I still think it's gonna be an up-and-comer from MWC or Sky team or the equiv. A name we haven't considered. Something like that.

Don't forget, we're not super-competitive on pay, we're more demanding on grades, and JW is likely to look for a balanced, clock-eating O.

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Wilcox did say he was surprised there was so much interest in the job.

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Well he was the prime offensive mind after Chip left and he still got Oregon to the national championship game. I think that's pretty good.

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Agreed - we are not screwed if Helfrich is the pick, and in the best-case scenario he succeeds here and Oregon gets to stew about how we put together a winner with "their" people.

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So we ARE looking for a TE coach

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I sure hope so although this is the first I've heard of it. He's the last to go on the offense.

Yogi Roth's thoughts on who Cal should pick (comments from a podcast with Kate Scott):

- Doug Nussmeier (Dallas Cowboys, TE coach)

- Jed Fisch (LA Rams, Sr. Offensive Assistant)

- Kevin O'Connell (Redskins, OC)

- Mike Sanford (Utah State, OC)

I haven't heard much about Lindgren lately. Assume because were it him he'd be named by now?

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Not impressed with helfrich as an OC. He's only had success when the HC was the prime offense mind. Chip Kelly, dirk koetter etc. Nice guy, good man, but underwhelming results

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When your resume includes "OC of the 2019 Chicago Bears," that would make you the last person on earth that should be considered for an OC job. Which means he's probably already been hired by Wilcox

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Well he was the prime offensive mind after Chip left and he still got Oregon to the national championship game. I think that's pretty good.

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I'm still shaking my head about all this speculation. Maybe Kellen Moore, maybe. But, he's the only one I think of the NFL names mentioned has even a remote chance of coming here. "How you gonna keep 'im down on the farm (no pun intended), after he's seen Paree?"

I still think it's gonna be an up-and-comer from MWC or Sky team or the equiv. A name we haven't considered. Something like that.

Don't forget, we're not super-competitive on pay, we're more demanding on grades, and JW is likely to look for a balanced, clock-eating O.

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Wilcox did say he was surprised there was so much interest in the job.

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Isn't that something coaches say to the media? Didn't Knowlton say that last March regarding hiring a basketball coach?

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Yogi Roth's thoughts on who Cal should pick (comments from a podcast with Kate Scott):

- Doug Nussmeier (Dallas Cowboys, TE coach)

- Jed Fisch (LA Rams, Sr. Offensive Assistant)

- Kevin O'Connell (Redskins, OC)

- Mike Sanford (Utah State, OC)

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Sanford is my first choice...

0% chance of Kellen Moore. He is a Jerry Jones golden-boy, and will probably be retained regardless of the new coach of the Cowboys (I'm sure JJ will make it a condition of getting the HC job).

Even if he left Dallas he would be snapped up by another NFL team.

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0% chance of Kellen Moore. He is a Jerry Jones golden-boy, and will probably be retained regardless of the new coach of the Cowboys (I'm sure JJ will make it a condition of getting the HC job).

Even if he left Dallas he would be snapped up by another NFL team.

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Agreed. Helfrich is also likely out, either staying in the NFL or going to a college team whose boosters are willing to pay $1.5 million per year for a coordinator.

tequila4kapp said:

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A quick search indicates those are some damn well qualified coaches we are moving on from.

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I read it as "Chicago Bears" that were doing the moving on

It's Mike Sanford.

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Not impressed with helfrich as an OC. He's only had success when the HC was the prime offense mind. Chip Kelly, dirk koetter etc. Nice guy, good man, but underwhelming results

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When your resume includes "OC of the 2019 Chicago Bears," that would make you the last person on earth that should be considered for an OC job. Which means he's probably already been hired by Wilcox

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Well he was the prime offensive mind after Chip left and he still got Oregon to the national championship game. I think that's pretty good.

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I'm still shaking my head about all this speculation. Maybe Kellen Moore, maybe. But, he's the only one I think of the NFL names mentioned has even a remote chance of coming here. "How you gonna keep 'im down on the farm (no pun intended), after he's seen Paree?"

I still think it's gonna be an up-and-comer from MWC or Sky team or the equiv. A name we haven't considered. Something like that.

Don't forget, we're not super-competitive on pay, we're more demanding on grades, and JW is likely to look for a balanced, clock-eating O.

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Wilcox did say he was surprised there was so much interest in the job.

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Isn't that something coaches say to the media? Didn't Knowlton say that last March regarding hiring a basketball coach?

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On its face it reflects expectations of Cal's attractiveness that were lower than reality and thus "surprise" when that reality manifested. Would he say the same about Oregon, for example? If you think it is a good job and you knew there would be a lot of interest you say that. Maybe "overwhelmed by the interest" instead?

In Wilcox's case it appears he is at least taking the time to let all these great surprise candidates make themselves known. In contrast Knowlton pulled the trigger way too fast on a guy that had no job for a year and was not mentioned as a candidate anywhere else.

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It's Mike Sanford.

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You have good reason to believe this is a fact?