Coach Jones' agent ...

Cal interest in RJ Davis ...

socaltownie;842833119 said:

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Do transfering redshirts count against the limit? There is a strong upside of essentially writing off next year and stockpiling with kids like Ryan and the Dukester and then try to get some impact 2018 Frosh. Solid transfer wins will make be happy (and could be part of the Jone's secret plan laid out in the interview to make Cal Successful in the current environment)

(BTW - which could absolutely work if you believe that some of the kids most likely to transfer have proved, with a year under their belt, that they can handle the load. Here is an interesting question - for a kid with say 2 years done who transfers - will admissions look at JUST the college grades (aka like they do with CC transfers) and thus they could have UNDER a 3.0 in HS but OVER a 3.0 from another university and thus get the green light. Moreover, those kids will be older and more mature than the Frosh of the world - we saw how Ball wore down a bit and how it "hurt" UCLA in the tournie....and of course continuty cause the red shirt got a year of practice prior to even hitting the course....and a year to get used to CAL without the grind of travel if they need to stay back in Berkeley/slack off in practice).

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SCT - I'm interested in the potential strategy of somewhat writing off next year, and building towards 2018. My worry is that if we have a REALLY bad year, would that potentially scare away important targets like Jordan Brown? I guess both USC and Utah had horrible first seasons with their last coaching changes, and both Enfield and Krystkowiak were able to recruit off those seasons.

LOUMFSG2;842833232 said:

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SCT - I'm interested in the potential strategy of somewhat writing off next year, and building towards 2018. My worry is that if we have a REALLY bad year, would that potentially scare away important targets like Jordan Brown? I guess both USC and Utah had horrible first seasons with their last coaching changes, and both Enfield and Krystkowiak were able to recruit off those seasons.

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Neither Enfield nor Larry K were going after a Top 10 prospect like Brown. If Wyking misses on primary targets, his ability to evaluate talent will come to the forefront. Larry K is a shrewd evaluator and Enfield isn't too bad, either.

Maka Ellis 6-5 2018 PG from Las Vegas Sierra Vista HS ...

6-5 2018 Maka Ellis (Sierra Vista/Las Vegas NV) has 1 of the purest 3 point strokes in West. 1 of the top prospects at Pangos Spring 16

first mentioned him here ...

http://bearinsider.com/forums/showthread.php?62260-cal-s-monster-class-thread-CLOSED-PLEASE-do-not-post-here&p=842648268&viewfull=1#post842648268

Kyree Walker 2020 guard named California Freshman of the Year. One of the first prospects Jones went to see (at the state finals) after being named HC.

more on Smith ...

In addition to posting a .375 mark from 3-point range, Smith averaged 4.8 assists this season. Overall, Smith averaged 4.1 assists over 51 games in two years at Cal State-Northridge. During those two seasons Smith posted an assist-to-turnover rate of 1.6.

http://www.buffzone.com/ci_30927486/cal-state-northridge-graduate-transfer-kendall-smith-visit

tsubamoto2001;842833127 said:

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Kendall Smith update:

Apparently, Cal is "in the mix."

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BearBackerinLA;842833344 said:

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more on Smith ...

In addition to posting a .375 mark from 3-point range, Smith averaged 4.8 assists this season. Overall, Smith averaged 4.1 assists over 51 games in two years at Cal State-Northridge. During those two seasons Smith posted an assist-to-turnover rate of 1.6.

http://www.buffzone.com/ci_30927486/cal-state-northridge-graduate-transfer-kendall-smith-visit

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The Monster says he does not have the grades. Too bad, if true.

BearBackerinLA;842833189 said:

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Coach Jones' agent ...

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another TX offer ...

Quinn Slazinski, 2019 6-7 F from Westbury Christian HS in TX ...

same school as the other recruit (Charles Smith IV) offered last week.

BearBackerinLA;842833482 said:

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another TX offer ...

Quinn Slazinski, 2019 6-7 F from Westbury Christian HS in TX ...

same school as the other recruit (Charles Smith IV) offered last week.

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I wonder when they're going to start offering some Cali kids. JK.

tsubamoto2001;842833486 said:

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I wonder when they're going to start offering some Cali kids. JK.

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I got the JK part, but my guess is that the staff is just keeping all/almost all of Martin's existing offers open and it seems that Martin did not cover Texas well.

CalEnviroLaw;842833493 said:

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I got the JK part, but my guess is that the staff is just keeping all/almost all of Martin's existing offers open and it seems that Martin did not cover Texas well.

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Why would Martin cover Texas? It remains to be seen if Cal can even land any players from there.

tsubamoto2001;842833496 said:

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Why would Martin cover Texas? It remains to be seen if Cal can even land any players from there.

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I find tsubamoto to be one of the most rational people on this board

tsubamoto2001;842833496 said:

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Why would Martin cover Texas? It remains to be seen if Cal can even land any players from there.

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FWIW: A lot of Cal football players came from there

mikecohen;842833520 said:

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FWIW: A lot of Cal football players came from there

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Football isn't hoops. Posters here often use football to make some sort of equivalency as to how things are done in hoops, but there are nuances that make certain comparisons inaccurate.

tsubamoto2001;842833529 said:

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Football isn't hoops.

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Damn, that's rational personified.

HoopDreams;842833505 said:

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I find tsubamoto to be one of the most rational people on this board

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Agreed, but there are only about 3 rational and intelligent people on this board.

SFBearz;842833545 said:

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Agreed, but there are only about 3 rational and intelligent people on this board.

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But that is what makes things fun. Who wants to argue with someone rational? You want to argue with the unstable...

SFBearz;842833545 said:

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Agreed, but there are only about 3 rational and intelligent people on this board.

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Are you one of the 3?

HoopDreams;842833575 said:

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Are you one of the 3?

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I just assumed I was.:p

tsubamoto2001;842833496 said:

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Why would Martin cover Texas? It remains to be seen if Cal can even land any players from there.

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Coach Walker gives Cal a Texas connection. Cannot link it, but it is easy to confirm from various sources.

Not supposed to link from a direct competitor.

SoCal top HS freshmen recruits from Frank Burlison ...

http://www.burlisononbasketball.com/2017/04/burlisononbasketball-all-socal-freshmen-selections/

BearBackerinLA;842832211 said:

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Jaedon LeDee 2018 6-8 SF from Houston TX ...

http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/jaedon-ledee

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LeDee apparently has a 3.5 GPA and has relatives in the Bay Area.

CalEnviroLaw;842833599 said:

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That is a Twitter link.

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I think BBinLA meant HIS Twitter competitors. You're only supposed to follow his tweets :p

No linking, referencing or quoting from competing Cal scout and rivals posts, stories or tweets are allowed. This has been repeated often enough that we shouldn't continue to see violations.

http://bearinsider.com/forums/showthread.php?54803-***Rules-reminder***

BearBackerinLA;842833617 said:

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No linking, referencing or quoting from competing Cal scout and rivals posts, stories or tweets are allowed. This has been repeated often enough that we shouldn't continue to see violations.

http://bearinsider.com/forums/showthread.php?54803-***Rules-reminder***

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OK. Twitter link deleted.

Riley Battin update ...

CalEnviroLaw;842833593 said:

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Coach Walker gives Cal a Texas connection. Cannot link it, but it is easy to confirm from various sources.

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I'm aware of that. I pointed that out when he was hired. But you stated that Martin "did not cover Texas well". California and the West Coast is obviously the main feeder to our program. If Walker is able to get a pipeline to Texas, then that would be good, but I find it unlikely that he consistently beats out the in-state schools and other Big XII and SEC schools for the best players in that state. It would be great if he did.

coming up in Vegas ...

tsubamoto2001;842833622 said:

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I'm aware of that. I pointed that out when he was hired. But you stated that Martin "did not cover Texas well". California and the West Coast is obviously the main feeder to our program. If Walker is able to get a pipeline to Texas, then that would be good, but I find it unlikely that he consistently beats out the in-state schools and other Big XII and SEC schools for the best players in that state. It would be great if he did.

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I agree. Even if Cal could get only one top recruit from there, it would be great. We shall see.

At this point, Cal is on the current lists of at least 6 or 7 top 40 recruits for 2018, including at least one from Texas. I hope that ends in a couple of signees from that group.

Up-and-comer. has UC experience.

http://ucirvinesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/2016-17/releases/20170418mc7bv1

others on the list ...

2016-17 National Association of Basketball Coaches (NABC) UNDER ARMOUR 30-UNDER-30

Michael Wilder, University of California, Irvine; Tim Bergstraser, Minnesota State University Moorhead; Kyle Church, University of Florida; Luke DallaRiva, Grand Canyon University; TJ Dekmar, Goldey-Beacom College; Skye Ettin, Princeton University; Kevin Gant, University of Southern Indiana; Zane Gibson, University of Arkansas-Fort Smith; Andrew Habermehl, Babson College; Ryan Hamm, Lindenwood University; Jase Herl, Colorado State University; Trevor Hook, Upper Iowa University; Christopher Klimchock, Penn State Behrend College; Preston Laird, University of Nevada; Las Vegas; Joe Meehan, Bucknell University; Adam Notteboom, Quincy University; Connor O'Brien, St. John's University; Brett Putz, University of Nebraska Omaha; Steve Raisfeld, Farmingdale State College; Chase Richardson, Jacksonville State University; David Riley, Eastern Washington University; Max Sass, Wesleyan University; Daniel Steffensen, Fort Lewis College; Sean Stout, Southern Methodist University; Chris Sullivan, Denison University; Ronnie Thomas, Guilford College; Drew Valentine, Oakland University; Ryan Van Zelst, The University of Scranton; Katherine Vosters, University of Wisconsin; Christian Webster, Virginia Tech.