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Cool, another season of not watching any games.

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I will continue to support the fine student athletes who wear a Cal jersey, regardless of who the coach is.

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Support how? Purchase season tickets? Donate to the program?

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Why don't you reread what I wrote?

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OK, just did. Questions still stand.

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DIdn't you read what he wrote? He said that he'll continue to support the students by supporting them.

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I did read what he said and my question was how would he support them. It's not a difficult or loaded question. I'm genuinely curious what he means by support.

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I will go to games when I can, as I have for many years and yes, I donate.

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I will continue to support the fine student athletes who wear a Cal jersey, regardless of who the coach is.

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Support how? Purchase season tickets? Donate to the program?

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Why don't you reread what I wrote?

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OK, just did. Questions still stand.

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DIdn't you read what he wrote? He said that he'll continue to support the students by supporting them.

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Which will make him the bestest fan because he's all about supporting students.

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Don't fall off of your high horse, Yogi. It's a long way down. My dissatisfaction with WJ's tenure is just as deep as most.

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I will continue to support the fine student athletes who wear a Cal jersey, regardless of who the coach is.

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Support how? Purchase season tickets? Donate to the program?

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Why don't you reread what I wrote?

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OK, just did. Questions still stand.

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DIdn't you read what he wrote? He said that he'll continue to support the students by supporting them.

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Which will make him the bestest fan because he's all about supporting students.

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Don't fall off of your high horse, Yogi. It's a long way down. My dissatisfaction with WJ's tenure is just as deep as most.

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Not deep enough apparently.

I'm sure the students will probably thank you in person for your support next year, as you'll be easy to find in the stands.

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UCBerkGrad said:

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I will continue to support the fine student athletes who wear a Cal jersey, regardless of who the coach is.

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Support how? Purchase season tickets? Donate to the program?

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Why don't you reread what I wrote?

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OK, just did. Questions still stand.

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DIdn't you read what he wrote? He said that he'll continue to support the students by supporting them.

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Which will make him the bestest fan because he's all about supporting students.

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Don't fall off of your high horse, Yogi. It's a long way down. My dissatisfaction with WJ's tenure is just as deep as most.

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Not deep enough apparently.

I'm sure the students will probably thank you in person for your support next year, as you'll be easy to find in the stands.

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So I guess I can look forward to missing you? Wonderful.

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Don't fall off of your high horse, Yogi. It's a long way down. My dissatisfaction with WJ's tenure is just as deep as most.

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Not deep enough apparently.

I'm sure the students will probably thank you in person for your support next year, as you'll be easy to find in the stands.

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So I guess I can look forward to missing you? Wonderful.

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I'm surprised you didn't look forward to it this year or the year before. But at least you can bask in the knowledge that you're a better fan than the rest of us.

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Not deep enough apparently.

I'm sure the students will probably thank you in person for your support next year, as you'll be easy to find in the stands.

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So I guess I can look forward to missing you? Wonderful.

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I'm surprised you didn't look forward to it this year or the year before. But at least you can bask in the knowledge that you're a better fan than the rest of us.

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So Yogi, I guess you don't attend, buy tickets or donate? You're just her to ***** about it and call our people who do?

whatever gets you through the night.

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So I guess I can look forward to missing you? Wonderful.

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I'm surprised you didn't look forward to it this year or the year before. But at least you can bask in the knowledge that you're a better fan than the rest of us.

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So Yogi, I guess you don't attend, but tickets or donate? You're just her to *****?

Sorry life, but whatever gets you through the night.

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You're the best of all of us. Knowlton' thanks you.

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He will need a decade before we can fairly measure the results. Team is too young. Freshmen can't even tie their shoes!! Next year might have some speed bumps as a young team learns the speed of the college game, but the year after that I can EASILY see this team almost making the NIT.

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I share your same optimism! My only fear is the NIT may not be around in 10 years

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sycasey said:

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Cool, another season of not watching any games.

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I will continue to support the fine student athletes who wear a Cal jersey, regardless of who the coach is.

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Support how? Purchase season tickets? Donate to the program?

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Why don't you reread what I wrote?

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OK, just did. Questions still stand.

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DIdn't you read what he wrote? He said that he'll continue to support the students by supporting them.

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I did read what he said and my question was how would he support them. It's not a difficult or loaded question. I'm genuinely curious what he means by support.

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I will go to games when I can, as I have for many years and yes, I donate.

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Thanks for your response. I feel different than you. I have been going to games for years, but for now I have no desire to support this program. I will continue to donate to football, but no longer basketball.

Cal should have higher standards. If the Econ Department suddenly became one of the worst programs in the nation, I wouldn't donate to them anymore either. Money talks.

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sycasey said:

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Cool, another season of not watching any games.

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I will continue to support the fine student athletes who wear a Cal jersey, regardless of who the coach is.

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Support how? Purchase season tickets? Donate to the program?

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Why don't you reread what I wrote?

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OK, just did. Questions still stand.

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DIdn't you read what he wrote? He said that he'll continue to support the students by supporting them.

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I did read what he said and my question was how would he support them. It's not a difficult or loaded question. I'm genuinely curious what he means by support.

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I will go to games when I can, as I have for many years and yes, I donate.

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Thanks for your response. I feel different than you. I have been going to games for years, but for now I have no desire to support this program. I will continue to donate to football, but no longer basketball.

Cal should have higher standards. If the Econ Department suddenly became one of the worst programs in the nation, I wouldn't donate to them anymore either. Money talks.

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Fair enough.

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Was McNeil transfer in the works before the decision to retain WJ?

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yes to the extent he wants to play point. Might have stayed with coaching change if he had that opportunity.

Frankly, I don't think a new coach would have seen him in that role with the other true points that will be on the roster next year.

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Was McNeil transfer in the works before the decision to retain WJ?

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yes to the extent he wants to play point. Might have stayed with coaching change if he had that opportunity.

Frankly, I don't think a new coach would have seen him in that role with the other true points that will be on the roster next year.

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and thus I think that is fair. Going to happen and DM really shouldn't be at point.

Bigger issue is the lack of Bigs. This is where we are SERIOUSLY missing recruiting hits and where we are going to be in deep deep ca ca for several seasons under the current regime.

You know though - I am done. Paid my 12 duckets to see if any real news on Premium. Nope. Drop it next month. Cal is what it is - a school that excels in being a BDW. Maybe it can - unlike so many schools who want the visibility of sports to drive other things. But that also means that they really can't hold me as a fan - because who wants to invest their emotions into a program which simply is incapable of doing college sports 101.

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A team that started to take two steps forward at the end of the season just took a step backwards, which it can I'll afford to do.

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What do you mean? In year three all the lessons WJ has been teaching will kick in. They will be a well-oiled machine running the Louisville defense. I am thinking like 22 wins, maybe 23. Am I too pessimistic?

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I'm not lobbying for WJ but if you watched all the games this year, I think it is an objective truth that the team improved markedly over the last 3 regular season games and in the Colorado game in the PAC 12 Tourney. Had the Bears played at that level all year they would have had a few more wins. I would have been fine with a coach upgrade although this turn of events may play into my plan to get a discounted seats upgrade.

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You seriously watched all the games? I watched three, and it was three too many. My tolerance for horrible basketball is not what it once was. I did want to see the freshmen and confirm that the coaching was as bad as last year. Check and check.

Sluggo

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A team that started to take two steps forward at the end of the season just took a step backwards, which it can I'll afford to do.

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What do you mean? In year three all the lessons WJ has been teaching will kick in. They will be a well-oiled machine running the Louisville defense. I am thinking like 22 wins, maybe 23. Am I too pessimistic?

Sluggo

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I'm not lobbying for WJ but if you watched all the games this year, I think it is an objective truth that the team improved markedly over the last 3 regular season games and in the Colorado game in the PAC 12 Tourney. Had the Bears played at that level all year they would have had a few more wins. I would have been fine with a coach upgrade although this turn of events may play into my plan to get a discounted seats upgrade.

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You seriously watched all the games? I watched three, and it was three too many. My tolerance for horrible basketball is not what it once was. I did want to see the freshmen and confirm that the coaching was as bad as last year. Check and check.

Sluggo

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I WAS a life long Raider fan and as a result I developed an extremely high pain threshold.

Self abuse is not about a high pain threshold.

viva las vegas

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Self abuse is not about a high pain threshold.

viva las vegas

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It is if you are Robert Kraft and you are wearing 6 Super Bowl rings while you're take'in care of yo bidness. That hardware can be shredding.

He SAID he was sorry.

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He SAID he was sorry.

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For the charges to which he pleaded not guilty? If not, what is he sorry for? I love ambiguous sorries like his.

Sluggo

Let he who is without sin

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Was McNeil transfer in the works before the decision to retain WJ?

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yes to the extent he wants to play point. Might have stayed with coaching change if he had that opportunity.

Frankly, I don't think a new coach would have seen him in that role with the other true points that will be on the roster next year.

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and thus I think that is fair. Going to happen and DM really shouldn't be at point.

Bigger issue is the lack of Bigs. This is where we are SERIOUSLY missing recruiting hits and where we are going to be in deep deep ca ca for several seasons under the current regime.

You know though - I am done. Paid my 12 duckets to see if any real news on Premium. Nope. Drop it next month. Cal is what it is - a school that excels in being a BDW. Maybe it can - unlike so many schools who want the visibility of sports to drive other things. But that also means that they really can't hold me as a fan - because who wants to invest their emotions into a program which simply is incapable of doing college sports 101.

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action is in chat. You would have known Jones was coming back a lot sooner and the likely reasons why.

Af for bigs. may be some help coming. We shall see. But a power forward is a (the most) serious need.

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Was McNeil transfer in the works before the decision to retain WJ?

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yes to the extent he wants to play point. Might have stayed with coaching change if he had that opportunity.

Frankly, I don't think a new coach would have seen him in that role with the other true points that will be on the roster next year.

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and thus I think that is fair. Going to happen and DM really shouldn't be at point.

Bigger issue is the lack of Bigs. This is where we are SERIOUSLY missing recruiting hits and where we are going to be in deep deep ca ca for several seasons under the current regime.

You know though - I am done. Paid my 12 duckets to see if any real news on Premium. Nope. Drop it next month. Cal is what it is - a school that excels in being a BDW. Maybe it can - unlike so many schools who want the visibility of sports to drive other things. But that also means that they really can't hold me as a fan - because who wants to invest their emotions into a program which simply is incapable of doing college sports 101.

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action is in chat. You would have known Jones was coming back a lot sooner and the likely reasons why.

Af for bigs. may be some help coming. We shall see. But a power forward is a (the most) serious need.

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What are the reasons why?

I hold out hope that (1) our next year's coach still has a team alive in the tournament and/or (2) Our AD has his resume polished and ready to go. Accomplishments while at Cal: ....................................(?)........shook some hands... made a couple of meaningless rah rah speeches....

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action is in chat. You would have known Jones was coming back a lot sooner and the likely reasons why.

Af for bigs. may be some help coming. We shall see. But a power forward is a (the most) serious need.

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What are the reasons why?

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As far as I could tell:

• Uneasy about firing a coach without giving him at least three years to develop his own program, particularly when starting from rock bottom.
• Wanting to get finances in order, including for a practice facility before trying to lure a new coach.
• With finances in order, thinking he would be able to go after bigger targets.

All valid reasons, IMO. Just not sure if they are good enough to renew my 26 year-long season tickets.

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I would add...

+ Winning the last three conference games gave at least the HOPE that the team is headed in the right direction (obviously, this is debatable).

+ In talking to the players (and perhaps their families), he got the impression that the "core" of the team was still "with the program" and optimistic about next year w/Jones. Maybe 1-2 more transfers, but not Sueing, Vanover or Bradley.

EDIT: Looks like all the above reasons didn't add up to enough, which I totally get.

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SMH

Cal will bring back Wyking Jones for a third season, source told @stadium.

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Ooops.
Bad source evidently....

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SMH

Cal will bring back Wyking Jones for a third season, source told @stadium.

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Ooops.
Bad source evidently....

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Arizona man Goodman was the only source that I heard saying Wyking was coming back....should have considered the source....One of Shocky's favorite foils....

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action is in chat. You would have known Jones was coming back a lot sooner and the likely reasons why.

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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Came here looking for this lol!!

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Cal will bring back Wyking Jones for a third season, source told @stadium.

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Bad source evidently....

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Arizona man Goodman was the only source that I heard saying Wyking was coming back

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According to Bear Insiders on this thread, it seemed that was the original plan. Thank goodness the AD was willing to change course (to the obvious solution)

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A team that started to take two steps forward at the end of the season just took a step backwards, which it can I'll afford to do.

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What do you mean? In year three all the lessons WJ has been teaching will kick in. They will be a well-oiled machine running the Louisville defense. I am thinking like 22 wins, maybe 23. Am I too pessimistic?

Sluggo

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I'm not lobbying for WJ but if you watched all the games this year, I think it is an objective truth that the team improved markedly over the last 3 regular season games and in the Colorado game in the PAC 12 Tourney. Had the Bears played at that level all year they would have had a few more wins. I would have been fine with a coach upgrade although this turn of events may play into my plan to get a discounted seats upgrade.

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You seriously watched all the games? I watched three, and it was three too many. My tolerance for horrible basketball is not what it once was. I did want to see the freshmen and confirm that the coaching was as bad as last year. Check and check.

Sluggo

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Stuck with Raiders initially after move to LA, by THEY were winning. But once that ended and the niera soared, forget about it. Particularly when Davis started to F with Irwindale, taking their money for nothing. By the time he returned and screwed the city of Oakland with the guaranteed PSL money from the general fund, that was it!
He ruined the Coliseum as a baseball stadium, too.

Now they are going to Vegas?
Good riddance!

All Davis, Donald Trump, Hitler, Napoleon....
Any Rand.
Self interest to extreme ruins everything.

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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Thanks for the inside tip, Wife.
I was gone watching NCAA hoops (the other kind, not played by Cal) and came in here to learn that Wyking was fired. Was that in the paid portion? Or perhaps that Jason Kidd will be the new coach?

I'll go back to OT, rip on the grand narcissist for a while, then come back here to learn yes/no.

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action is in chat. You would have known Jones was coming back a lot sooner and the likely reasons why.

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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Go over to the private board. JK getting all kinds of excrement on how he handled this. Told assistants a few days ago Jones was staying, there was a transfer who pulled his notice of intent after being assured Jones was staying, etc. Something changed. And I'm okay with that.