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Can you imagine living in her district, where pretty much most of the people you run into in public support her?

I'll be staying in the East Bay, thank you very much.

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She can introduce all the crazy bills she wants. They will never even make it out of committee. This woman is a wannabe AOC except she's not educated nor compassionate.

Edit: Now that I think of it she's like Colorado's Sarah Palin

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And Rap sheet long as the day

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Ted Cruz gave this crazy lady $70K. Now that The Donald is out of office we can focus attention on who is really destroying this country. Don the Con was a danger but he had a lot of enablers and many of them are still in office.

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Can you imagine living in her district, where pretty much most of the people you run into in public support her?

I'll be staying in the East Bay, thank you very much.

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Eric Swalwell who serves on the Intelligence Committee was compromised by a Chinese spy. Can you imagine living in his district?

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I'll take Blind Ambition over Nut Job any day of the week.

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I heard him say that last night and it was refreshing. Politics does have a way of changing ones plans however.

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If Biden was president the last 4 years, there would be no vaccine.

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If Biden was president the last 4 years, there would be no vaccine.

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What are you basing that on?

sycasey said:

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If Biden was president the last 4 years, there would be no vaccine.

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What are you basing that on?

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Biden's 47 year record in politics.

BearForce2 said:

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If Biden was president the last 4 years, there would be no vaccine.

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Great take! Yeah, scientists and pharmaceutical companies would have sat on their butts and not noticed the pandemic and not really cared about curing it...unless the president said in such clear terms "Hey guys, go invent something."

Biden would have never thought of that. And of course the scientific community had tremendous respect for Trump and his deep knowledge.

You will say and believe anything. Did you hear that babies stopped crying during the Trump presidency? Did you know that God has stopped caring now that Biden is president?

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If Biden was president the last 4 years, there would be no vaccine.

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What are you basing that on?

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Biden's 47 year record in politics.

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Terrible answer.

Wouldn't Biden have demanded that the vaccine be provided by a company whose board is comprised mainly of persons of color, LGBTQ, and transgender folks? How would he be able to justify billions finding their way into the pockets of white people?

You are a moron.

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Wouldn't Biden have demanded that the vaccine be provided by a company whose board is comprised mainly of persons of color, LGBTQ, and transgender folks?

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No.

sycasey said:

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LMK5 said:

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Wouldn't Biden have demanded that the vaccine be provided by a company whose board is comprised mainly of persons of color, LGBTQ, and transgender folks?

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No.

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Even if Liz Warren had a say in the matter?

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Wouldn't Biden have demanded that the vaccine be provided by a company whose board is comprised mainly of persons of color, LGBTQ, and transgender folks?

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No.

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Even if Liz Warren had a say in the matter?

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What does she have to do with it? You think Elizabeth Warren would be in charge of vaccine development?

Are we just playing right-wing Mad Libs here? I'll go next: AOC!

sycasey said:

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Wouldn't Biden have demanded that the vaccine be provided by a company whose board is comprised mainly of persons of color, LGBTQ, and transgender folks?

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No.

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Even if Liz Warren had a say in the matter?

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What does she have to do with it? You think Elizabeth Warren would be in charge of vaccine development?

Are we just playing right-wing Mad Libs here? I'll go next: AOC!

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I'll play too! Rashida Tlaib!

ANTIFA. Socialist fascism.

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If Biden was president the last 4 years, there would be no vaccine.

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Utterly ridiculous.

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Wouldn't Biden have demanded that the vaccine be provided by a company whose board is comprised mainly of persons of color, LGBTQ, and transgender folks? How would he be able to justify billions finding their way into the pockets of white people?

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That's just silly. The "Liz Warren" part, too.

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Wouldn't Biden have demanded that the vaccine be provided by a company whose board is comprised mainly of persons of color, LGBTQ, and transgender folks?

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No.

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Even if Liz Warren had a say in the matter?

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What does she have to do with it? You think Elizabeth Warren would be in charge of vaccine development?

Are we just playing right-wing Mad Libs here? I'll go next: AOC!

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I bring up Warren because she has been very vocal about forcing boards of directors to be comprised of certain factions, especially workers. Actually it was California that just passed a law that requires corporations to comprise their board of certain ethnic groups: https://ogletree.com/insights/new-california-law-requires-diversity-on-corporate-boards-of-directors/

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If Biden was president the last 4 years, there would be no vaccine.

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What are you basing that on?

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Biden's 47 year record in politics.

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Terrible answer.

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It's a great answer. You see, the Biden administration "follows the science", it takes years of testing to get something approved, testing is scientific after all. We'd have to wait at least 2 more years if Biden was president plus an extra year to address concerns that LMK5 brought up.

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Wouldn't Biden have demanded that the vaccine be provided by a company whose board is comprised mainly of persons of color, LGBTQ, and transgender folks?

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No.

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Even if Liz Warren had a say in the matter?

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What does she have to do with it? You think Elizabeth Warren would be in charge of vaccine development?

Are we just playing right-wing Mad Libs here? I'll go next: AOC!

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I bring up Warren because she has been very vocal about forcing boards of directors to be comprised of certain factions, especially workers. Actually it was California that just passed a law that requires corporations to comprise their board of certain ethnic groups: https://ogletree.com/insights/new-california-law-requires-diversity-on-corporate-boards-of-directors/

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We could have a well-informed and interesting debate about the desire to increase diversity in board rooms across America, but it doesn't seem like you are willing or capable of having that discussion.

But if we needed to represent the knee jerk Tucker Carlson trained culture warrior population - you seem to be just the guy.

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Wouldn't Biden have demanded that the vaccine be provided by a company whose board is comprised mainly of persons of color, LGBTQ, and transgender folks?

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No.

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Even if Liz Warren had a say in the matter?

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What does she have to do with it? You think Elizabeth Warren would be in charge of vaccine development?

Are we just playing right-wing Mad Libs here? I'll go next: AOC!

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I bring up Warren because she has been very vocal about forcing boards of directors to be comprised of certain factions, especially workers. Actually it was California that just passed a law that requires corporations to comprise their board of certain ethnic groups: https://ogletree.com/insights/new-california-law-requires-diversity-on-corporate-boards-of-directors/

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We could have a well-informed and interesting debate about the desire to increase diversity in board rooms across America, but it doesn't seem like you are willing or capable of having that discussion.

But if we needed to represent the knee jerk Tucker Carlson trained culture warrior population - you seem to be just the guy.

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I agree. Start your own thread.

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Wouldn't Biden have demanded that the vaccine be provided by a company whose board is comprised mainly of persons of color, LGBTQ, and transgender folks?

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No.

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Even if Liz Warren had a say in the matter?

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What does she have to do with it? You think Elizabeth Warren would be in charge of vaccine development?

Are we just playing right-wing Mad Libs here? I'll go next: AOC!

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I bring up Warren because she has been very vocal about forcing boards of directors to be comprised of certain factions, especially workers. Actually it was California that just passed a law that requires corporations to comprise their board of certain ethnic groups: https://ogletree.com/insights/new-california-law-requires-diversity-on-corporate-boards-of-directors/

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And what does this have to do with making vaccines?

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Wouldn't Biden have demanded that the vaccine be provided by a company whose board is comprised mainly of persons of color, LGBTQ, and transgender folks?

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No.

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Even if Liz Warren had a say in the matter?

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What does she have to do with it? You think Elizabeth Warren would be in charge of vaccine development?

Are we just playing right-wing Mad Libs here? I'll go next: AOC!

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I bring up Warren because she has been very vocal about forcing boards of directors to be comprised of certain factions, especially workers. Actually it was California that just passed a law that requires corporations to comprise their board of certain ethnic groups: https://ogletree.com/insights/new-california-law-requires-diversity-on-corporate-boards-of-directors/

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And what does this have to do with making vaccines?

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Circling back, the idea is that if we got all caught up in identity politics it's fair to say that developing the vaccine would have taken longer than it did. I'm not sure who the point person was, but whomever in the administration got it done will certainly go down in history as something of a hero. I'm sure the story of cutting through all the red tape and the groundbreaking success of Operation Warp Speed will be told in the near future. It is also possible that future vaccines will benefit from the Covid development model.

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Circling back, the idea is that if we got all caught up in identity politics it's fair to say that developing the vaccine would have taken longer than it did.

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Sure, if. That word "if" is doing a lot of work there. I don't see the evidence that Joe Biden is particularly caught up with identity politics (at least not when it comes to something like this).

Elizabeth Warren has nothing to do with any of it, since she was never in line to be a leader in the COVID response. Including her in your point was tangential at best.

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Wouldn't Biden have demanded that the vaccine be provided by a company whose board is comprised mainly of persons of color, LGBTQ, and transgender folks?

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No.

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Even if Liz Warren had a say in the matter?

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What does she have to do with it? You think Elizabeth Warren would be in charge of vaccine development?

Are we just playing right-wing Mad Libs here? I'll go next: AOC!

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I bring up Warren because she has been very vocal about forcing boards of directors to be comprised of certain factions, especially workers. Actually it was California that just passed a law that requires corporations to comprise their board of certain ethnic groups: https://ogletree.com/insights/new-california-law-requires-diversity-on-corporate-boards-of-directors/

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And what does this have to do with making vaccines?

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Circling back, the idea is that if we got all caught up in identity politics it's fair to say that developing the vaccine would have taken longer than it did. I'm not sure who the point person was, but whomever in the administration got it done will certainly go down in history as something of a hero. I'm sure the story of cutting through all the red tape and the groundbreaking success of Operation Warp Speed will be told in the near future. It is also possible that future vaccines will benefit from the Covid development model.

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You are the only one bringing identity politics up. Maybe if people like you didn't get caught up in identity politics, the Republican government you elected would have actually created a vaccine distribution plan. But of course, the very fine people you elected only cared about creating a false impression of accomplishment prior to Nov. 4.

They always knew the rollout would be after the election at which point the Trump administration wouldn't have any reason to concern itself with actually administering vaccines. They barely concealed their disinterest in helping the nation through the pandemic. This was all quite obvious about the time that Trump focused 100% of his energy on stealing the election rather than actually addressing the pandemic. 232k people died before the election and 200k have died since. How many could we have saved if the Trump administration spent its energy trying to help the country rather than incite insurrection? Maybe that's a question you should be asking.

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Wouldn't Biden have demanded that the vaccine be provided by a company whose board is comprised mainly of persons of color, LGBTQ, and transgender folks?

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No.

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Even if Liz Warren had a say in the matter?

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What does she have to do with it? You think Elizabeth Warren would be in charge of vaccine development?

Are we just playing right-wing Mad Libs here? I'll go next: AOC!

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I bring up Warren because she has been very vocal about forcing boards of directors to be comprised of certain factions, especially workers. Actually it was California that just passed a law that requires corporations to comprise their board of certain ethnic groups: https://ogletree.com/insights/new-california-law-requires-diversity-on-corporate-boards-of-directors/

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And what does this have to do with making vaccines?

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Circling back, the idea is that if we got all caught up in identity politics it's fair to say that developing the vaccine would have taken longer than it did. I'm not sure who the point person was, but whomever in the administration got it done will certainly go down in history as something of a hero. I'm sure the story of cutting through all the red tape and the groundbreaking success of Operation Warp Speed will be told in the near future. It is also possible that future vaccines will benefit from the Covid development model.

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You are the only one bringing identity politics up. Maybe if people like you didn't get caught up in identity politics, the Republican government you elected would have actually created a vaccine distribution plan. But of course, the very fine people you elected only cared about creating a false impression of accomplishment prior to Nov. 4.

They always knew the rollout would be after the election at which point the Trump administration wouldn't have any reason to concern itself with actually administering vaccines. They barely concealed their disinterest in helping the nation through the pandemic. This was all quite obvious about the time that Trump focused 100% of his energy on stealing the election rather than actually addressing the pandemic. 232k people died before the election and 200k have died since. How many could we have saved if the Trump administration spent its energy trying to help the country rather than incite insurrection? Maybe that's a question you should be asking.

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Your question doesn't make any sense. Try tackle this:

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Circling back, the idea is that if we got all caught up in identity politics it's fair to say that developing the vaccine would have taken longer than it did.

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Sure, if. That word "if" is doing a lot of work there. I don't see the evidence that Joe Biden is particularly caught up with identity politics (at least not when it comes to something like this).

Elizabeth Warren has nothing to do with any of it, since she was never in line to be a leader in the COVID response. Including her in your point was tangential at best.

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I agree that Biden has made an attempt to resist getting caught up in the woke nonsense that some of his colleagues have hitched their futures to. I hope he continues to be successful.

Banning all Muslim countries just because they are Muslim = xenophobia. Banning travel from countries with certain levels of infection is not.

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Banning all Muslim countries just because they are Muslim = xenophobia. Banning travel from countries with certain levels of infection is not.

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There was no ban on all "Muslim countries" Check again.

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How does anyone read this statement as "throwing in the towel?" He's literally saying things will get worse before they get better. But he is also saying they will get better.

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Trump: things will get worse before they get better

Biden: things will get worse before they get better

One is a murder and the other one is just being reasonable?

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How does anyone read this statement as "throwing in the towel?" He's literally saying things will get worse before they get better. But he is also saying they will get better.

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Trump: things will get worse before they get better

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Oh, is that what Trump originally said about COVID? I remember this:

He never wanted to tell us things would get worse. He tried to downplay the disease from the start. Then he called it a hoax. I think I know which President is being more honest with us.

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How does anyone read this statement as "throwing in the towel?" He's literally saying things will get worse before they get better. But he is also saying they will get better.

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Trump: things will get worse before they get better

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Oh, is that what Trump originally said about COVID? I remember this:

He never wanted to tell us things would get worse. He tried to downplay the disease from the start. Then he called it a hoax. I think I know which President is being more honest with us.

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Biden has the benefit of sitting on the bench while this was being played out. When did Trump call the pandemic a hoax?