Vaccine Redux - Vax up and go to Class

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"It's clear that some individuals are experiencing significant challenges after vaccination. Our responsibility as scientists and clinicians is to listen to their experiences, rigorously investigate the underlying causes, and seek ways to help," said Harlan Krumholz, the Harold H. Hines, Jr. Professor of Medicine (Cardiology) at YSM and co-senior author of the study.

When the researchers measured levels of SARS-CoV-2 spike protein the part of the virus that enables it to penetrate and infect host cells and what COVID-19 vaccines use to trigger immune responses against the virus they found that some individuals with PVS, even those without evidence for infection, had higher levels of spike protein than controls. Typically spike protein can be detected for a few days after vaccination, but some participants with PVS had detectable levels more than 700 days after their last vaccination. Persistent spike protein has been associated with long COVID as well.

"That was surprising, to find spike protein in circulation at such a late time point," said Iwasaki. "We don't know if the level of spike protein is causing the chronic symptoms, because there were other participants with PVS who didn't have any measurable spike protein. But it could be one mechanism underlying this syndrome."

We're only just starting to make headway in understanding PVS," said Krumholz. "Every medical intervention carries some risk, and it's important to acknowledge that adverse events can occur with vaccines. Our focus must remain on understanding what these people are experiencing through rigorous science and addressing the needs of those affected with compassion and an open mind."

https://news.yale.edu/2025/02/19/immune-markers-post-vaccination-syndrome-indicate-future-research-directions
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Zippergate
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Just about every tinfoil hat Covid conspiracy has either been proven true or highly likely so.
I'm still on the fence about whether the virus was intentionally released. But once it was out there, they used it for all it was worth. Crisis=opportunity as the authoritarians like to say. The world's greatest psyop.

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Yale scientists : the mRNA shots can cause a previously unknown condition known as 'post-vaccination syndrome.'

The syndrome appears to cause brain fog, dizziness, tinnitus, extreme fatigue and biological changes to patients' immune systems.

Dr Akiko Iwasaki, the lead researcher behind the paper, told DailyMail.com she understands her findings could be seen as controversial. But she wants patients to know her team will keep studying to bring them 'better transparency and safer vaccines.'



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14421799/yale-scientists-covid-vaccine-study-message-victims.html

Yale scientists link Covid vaccines to alarming new syndrome causing 'distinct biological changes' to body

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14414367/covid-vaccines-new-syndrome-biological-changes-yale.html

sycasey
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bear2034
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Dr. Francis Collins is also a nutjob activist.
Zippergate
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Probably just a coincidence that this ruling came after all the recent talk about how unvaccinated Amish children have much lower incidence of many diseases including autism. Reminds me of when Pfizer vaxxed the control group of their long-term Covid trial.

https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/amish-children-facing-forced-vaccinations-in-ny-as-court-ruling-crushes-religious-freedom/
movielover
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I bet their literacy rate is over 30%.
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Eastern Oregon Bear
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Trump administration sees no need for testing for Covid-19, stops handling out Covid-19 home tests.

https://covidtests.gov
Fauci Lied People Died
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Since scientists began playing around with dangerous pathogens in laboratories, the world has experienced four or five pandemics, depending on how you count. One of them, the 1977 Russian flu, was almost certainly sparked by a research mishap. Some Western scientists quickly suspected the odd virus had resided in a lab freezer for a couple of decades, but they kept mostly quiet for fear of ruffling feathers.

Yet in 2020, when people started speculating that a laboratory accident might have been the spark that started the Covid-19 pandemic, they were treated like kooks and cranks. Many public health officials and prominent scientists dismissed the idea as a conspiracy theory, insisting that the virus had emerged from animals in a seafood market in Wuhan, China. And when a nonprofit called EcoHealth Alliance lost a grant because it was planning to conduct risky research into bat viruses with the Wuhan Institute of Virology research that, if conducted with lax safety standards, could have resulted in a dangerous pathogen leaking out into the world no fewer than 77 Nobel laureates and 31 scientific societies lined up to defend the organization.

So the Wuhan research was totally safe, and the pandemic was definitely caused by natural transmission it certainly seemed like consensus.

We have since learned, however, that to promote the appearance of consensus, some officials and scientists hid or understated crucial facts, misled at least one reporter, orchestrated campaigns of supposedly independent voices and even compared notes about how to hide their communications in order to keep the public from hearing the whole story. And as for that Wuhan laboratory's research, the details that have since emerged show that safety precautions might have been terrifyingly lax.

Five years after the onset of the Covid pandemic, it's tempting to think of all that as ancient history. We learned our lesson about lab safety and about the need to be straight with the public and now we can move on to new crises, like measles and the evolving bird flu, right?

Wrong. If anyone needs convincing that the next pandemic is only an accident away, check out a recent paper in Cell, a prestigious scientific journal. Researchers, many of whom work or have worked at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (yes, the same institution), describe taking samples of viruses found in bats (yes, the same animal) and experimenting to see if they could infect human cells and pose a pandemic risk.

Zippergate
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Yes, but they were telling the truth about everything else.
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In March 2020 MI6 submitted a dossier to Boris Johnson indicating with certainty that COVID was man made:
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The report, compiled by intelligence experts and top academics, found that Beijing had altered samples of the virus to further the claim that COVID-19 was a naturally occurring disease rather than one developed by man.

Yet the document, seen by The Mail on Sunday, stated that "it is now beyond reasonable doubt that COVID-19 was engineered in the Wuhan Institute of Virology".

Earlier this month German media reported that Berlin's BND foreign spy service had concluded in 2020, with an 80 to 95 per cent certainty, that the virus had emerged from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

Commenting on the government's response to his dossier, Sir Richard said: "Boris [Johnson] himself was persuaded by its argument. But the weight of the Government's scientific establishment, already signed up to the Chinese narrative, prevailed."

Speaking to the paper, a source said to be close to former PM Johnson, who writes for the sister paper Daily Mail, claimed that the British scientific establishment publicly rejected the lab leak theory as to not draw the ire of Anthony Fauci, who then served as the head of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, which was a major funder of the Wuhan laboratory including for "gain-of-function" research on coronaviruses.

"The truth is that the Covid-19 virus was not just Chinese but also partly American. It was a Chimerican chimera. So Vallance and the others clung to the wet market/bat/pangolin theory long after it had begun to look ridiculous," the source said.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2025/03/17/uk-govt-told-by-intelligence-officials-in-2020-that-covid-19-was-engineered-in-wuhan-laboratory/
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tequila4kapp said:

In March 2020 MI6 submitted a dossier to Boris Johnson indicating with certainty that COVID was man made:
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The report, compiled by intelligence experts and top academics, found that Beijing had altered samples of the virus to further the claim that COVID-19 was a naturally occurring disease rather than one developed by man.

Yet the document, seen by The Mail on Sunday, stated that "it is now beyond reasonable doubt that COVID-19 was engineered in the Wuhan Institute of Virology".

Earlier this month German media reported that Berlin's BND foreign spy service had concluded in 2020, with an 80 to 95 per cent certainty, that the virus had emerged from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

Commenting on the government's response to his dossier, Sir Richard said: "Boris [Johnson] himself was persuaded by its argument. But the weight of the Government's scientific establishment, already signed up to the Chinese narrative, prevailed."

Speaking to the paper, a source said to be close to former PM Johnson, who writes for the sister paper Daily Mail, claimed that the British scientific establishment publicly rejected the lab leak theory as to not draw the ire of Anthony Fauci, who then served as the head of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, which was a major funder of the Wuhan laboratory including for "gain-of-function" research on coronaviruses.

"The truth is that the Covid-19 virus was not just Chinese but also partly American. It was a Chimerican chimera. So Vallance and the others clung to the wet market/bat/pangolin theory long after it had begun to look ridiculous," the source said.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2025/03/17/uk-govt-told-by-intelligence-officials-in-2020-that-covid-19-was-engineered-in-wuhan-laboratory/


Fauci didn't want anyone to know the virus was manmade until he was pardoned by the auto pen. No longer will our taxpayer money be funnelled to USAID to bribe the media to broadcast and manipulate us into believing Fauci's lies.
movielover
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When Dems get back into power they'll redo it under a different title.
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Blockbuster opinion piece dropped by the NYTimes yesterday when they had an a-ha moment regarding the Covid pandemic. They've finally realized they've been "misled" or lied to after all these years.

This isn't an apology piece, however, as they didn't acknowledge the efforts from independent media sources during the pandemic to question mainstream narratives Instead, they still seem to associate them with having bad motives even though they were in many cases, right.
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bear2034 said:


Blockbuster opinion piece dropped by the NYTimes yesterday when they had an a-ha moment regarding the Covid pandemic. They've finally realized they've been "misled" or lied to after all these years.

This isn't an apology piece, however, as they didn't acknowledge the efforts from independent media sources during the pandemic to question mainstream narratives Instead, they still seem to associate them with having bad motives even though they were in many cases, right.

"We Were Badly Mislead About the Event that Changed Our Lives"

That could be about COVID origins... or it also sounds like Biden not dropping out 6-12 months before he did. Two of the Dems' bigger mistakes this century: not taking a pause to think things through. Or believing that the people in the smoke-filled room actually had all the answers.

Let's not kid ourselves, though, both parties do it. Or are we forgetting about the pretext for the Iraq war?
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Cal88 said:


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Yale scientists : the mRNA shots can cause a previously unknown condition known as 'post-vaccination syndrome.'

The syndrome appears to cause brain fog, dizziness, tinnitus, extreme fatigue and biological changes to patients' immune systems.

Dr Akiko Iwasaki, the lead researcher behind the paper, told DailyMail.com she understands her findings could be seen as controversial. But she wants patients to know her team will keep studying to bring them 'better transparency and safer vaccines.'



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14421799/yale-scientists-covid-vaccine-study-message-victims.html

Yale scientists link Covid vaccines to alarming new syndrome causing 'distinct biological changes' to body

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14414367/covid-vaccines-new-syndrome-biological-changes-yale.html


I have tinnitus since I received the vaccine. Obviously not a scientifically rigorous study, but from my personal experience I have met many who experienced the same thing along with being told by physicians and acupuncturists that have patients coming to them for tinnitus appearing post their vaccine.
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All those people "dying suddenly" and none of the medical authorities wanted autopsies to get to the bottom of it. I wonder why.

https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/major-autopsy-study-finds-scars-in

Two of Japan's leading medical researchers have issued a warning after their major autopsy study found that people who died from a sudden cardiac arrest had multiple scars in their hearts caused by Covid mRNA "vaccines."
The study was conducted by cardiologist Dr. Tomomi Koizumi and pathologist Dr. Masao Ono of the Mito Medical Center in Higashi-Ibarakigun, Japan.
They sought to identify the cause of spikes in "unexplained cardiac arrest."
The study's paper was published in the journal JACC: Case Reports.
Alarmingly, the researchers discovered that people who died suddenly after receiving an mRNA injection had "multiple micro-scars" (MMS) in and around their hearts.
The enigmatic pathological phenomenon was only found in the myocardium of Covid-vaccinated patients who succumbed to unexplained cardiac arrest.
The researchers note that these microscopic scars are undetectable by conventional imaging.
However, the scarring was evident in post-mortem histopathological examinations.
They hypothesize that the scars could serve as a novel marker for vaccine-induced heart damage leading to sudden cardiac events.
They explain that MMS is likely linked to microvascular inflammation and thrombotic microangiopathy, potentially influenced by contemporary health interventions such as Covid mRNA "vaccinations."
In the study's paper, Koizumi and Ono present the autopsy findings from three patients two elderly women and a middle-aged man.
The patients exhibited unexplained cardiac arrest with arrhythmias preceding death.
The study meticulously examines their myocardial tissue using hematoxylin and eosin staining, complemented by elastic-Goldner staining to delineate micro-scarring.
Additional diagnostic techniques, including CD42b staining for platelet activity, were employed to investigate thrombotic activity.
Comparative analysis was performed on other major organs (lungs, kidneys, liver, and skeletal muscle) to ascertain whether the micro-scarring was exclusive to cardiac tissue.
Each patient underwent post-mortem histological examination with a focus on myocardial microvascular architecture.
Scar dimensions, spatial distribution, and associated vascular pathology were quantified.
Notably, all patients with the scarring had a history of multiple Covid vaccinations.
However, only one patient had a documented COVID-19 infection.
The study raises the possibility of a direct link between Covid "vaccination" and MMS.
On Covid injections, the authors report:
"An association between arrhythmia and COVID-19 vaccination has been reported recently.
"A global survey showed that any type of COVID-19 vaccine appears to instigate cardiac arrhythmias, and COVID-19 vaccines may lead to cardiac conduction abnormalities.
"These mechanisms are speculated to arise from molecular mimicry or spike protein production, an escalated inflammatory response, and the eventual scar and fibrosis.
"Interestingly, in the present pathologic case study, micro-scarring was also observed at the junction of the left atrium with the pulmonary artery and high right atrium, which is also a common site of catheter ablation for atrial fibrillation.
"In the future, we hope to see research that will make it possible to diagnose the pathophysiology of cardiac MMS through cardiac imaging and/or blood tests prior to death."
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HKBear97! said:

Cal88 said:


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Yale scientists : the mRNA shots can cause a previously unknown condition known as 'post-vaccination syndrome.'

The syndrome appears to cause brain fog, dizziness, tinnitus, extreme fatigue and biological changes to patients' immune systems.

Dr Akiko Iwasaki, the lead researcher behind the paper, told DailyMail.com she understands her findings could be seen as controversial. But she wants patients to know her team will keep studying to bring them 'better transparency and safer vaccines.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14421799/yale-scientists-covid-vaccine-study-message-victims.html

Yale scientists link Covid vaccines to alarming new syndrome causing 'distinct biological changes' to body

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14414367/covid-vaccines-new-syndrome-biological-changes-yale.html


I have tinnitus since I received the vaccine. Obviously not a scientifically rigorous study, but from my personal experience I have met many who experienced the same thing along with being told by physicians and acupuncturists that have patients coming to them for tinnitus appearing post their vaccine.
I legitimately cannot tell if this little mini-thread is serious or sarcasm. Please enlighten me. Thank you.
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tequila4kapp said:

HKBear97! said:

Cal88 said:


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Yale scientists : the mRNA shots can cause a previously unknown condition known as 'post-vaccination syndrome.'

The syndrome appears to cause brain fog, dizziness, tinnitus, extreme fatigue and biological changes to patients' immune systems.

Dr Akiko Iwasaki, the lead researcher behind the paper, told DailyMail.com she understands her findings could be seen as controversial. But she wants patients to know her team will keep studying to bring them 'better transparency and safer vaccines.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14421799/yale-scientists-covid-vaccine-study-message-victims.html

Yale scientists link Covid vaccines to alarming new syndrome causing 'distinct biological changes' to body

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14414367/covid-vaccines-new-syndrome-biological-changes-yale.html


I have tinnitus since I received the vaccine. Obviously not a scientifically rigorous study, but from my personal experience I have met many who experienced the same thing along with being told by physicians and acupuncturists that have patients coming to them for tinnitus appearing post their vaccine.
I legitimately cannot tell if this little mini-thread is serious or sarcasm. Please enlighten me. Thank you.
Just giving my personal experience. Of course now there are studies showing COVID-19 increases the risk of tinnitus, but it wasn't taken seriously at the time. I recall when a third shot was being recommended one of my clients who was an elderly gentleman told me he was not going to get it. When I asked him why, he told me he was starting to hear about issues with tinnitus post the vaccine and as he was also a musician, he didn't want to risk it. When I asked my doctor at the time about this risk, they dismissed it. Sure enough, my ears started ringing after the third shot. Since then I've sought treatment and have been told of many similar cases.

Hopefully we never see anything like COVID-19 again, but if we do in my lifetime, I will weigh the risks of the disease versus a vaccine differently. I have not gotten any boosters for COVID post that third-dose and do not plan to.
tequila4kapp
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Part of the reason I asked was because I have pretty severe tinnitus in one of my ears. Didn't have it before the vaccines. Causal relationship or coincidence????
Cal88
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Some sources covering this:



tequila4kapp
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Well F
Cal88
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tequila4kapp said:

Well F

Sorry.

FYI - other sources mentioned taurine and magnesium being potentially helpful for this,


HKBear97!
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Cal88 said:

tequila4kapp said:

Well F

Sorry.

FYI - other sources mentioned taurine and magnesium being potentially helpful for this,



Thanks. Will try that. Looks like you do not want to exceed 350 mg per day.
Cal88
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Here's a good ressource:

https://www.ata.org/about-tinnitus/is-there-a-magic-pill/

Good luck.
tequila4kapp
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Cal88 said:

Here's a good ressource:

https://www.ata.org/about-tinnitus/is-there-a-magic-pill/

Good luck.
Thanks. My spouse works with otolaryngologists. She asked about this for me. The answer generally was in the "it is being studied, can't hurt to try for now" category.
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sycasey
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movielover said:


Wow, you guys really are going full anti-vaccine here. Not just COVID vaccines, all of it.
movielover
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Are her allegations worth exploring?
Zippergate
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Covid vaccines kill and injure otherwise healthy children. FACT. Google "Bradford Hill criteria", the foundation of epidemiology. and then read the case reports provided in this article and try to explain it away.

Multiple studies going back decades have shown that because of systematic underreporting, the actual number of vaccine injuries is 40+ times the number in VAERS. If there are 50 deaths in VAERS, then there are likely nearly 2,000 children who died from the vaccines. Why are these things still on the vaccine schedule?

https://kirschsubstack.com/p/impartial-analysis-of-vaers-death?r=aiop6&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false

"There are 58 death reports in VAERS for those over 6 and under age 18 for the COVID shots. In any sane society, that would be an immediate stopping condition for a vaccine.
I downloaded all 58 reports and had an unbiased AI chatbot analyze them.
75% of the deaths were likely related to the vaccine. 8% were unrelated. The others lacked sufficient detail to render a judgement.
The stunning conclusion of the analysis was this:
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The fact that these deaths have not triggered a comprehensive safety review and pause in childhood vaccination programs represents one of the most profound institutional failures in modern medical history.
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"Temporal Clustering


The majority of deaths occur within a specific timeframe after vaccination - many within days to weeks. This temporal clustering is a classic signal of causality in pharmacovigilance. Particularly striking are cases like:
  • VAERS ID 1242573: 15-year-old male who died of heart failure just 2 days after vaccination
  • VAERS ID 1199455: 17-year-old female who died 8 days after vaccination with chest pain and dyspnea
  • VAERS ID 2454771: 12-year-old female found unresponsive just 1 day after symptoms began, 3 days post-vaccination"
Zippergate
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That all vaccines are "safe and effective" is practically axiomatic these days, but I wonder if you have spent even five minutes engaging with the evidence presented by experts who say otherwise. Here's a good place to start.

https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/how-much-damage-have-vaccines-done
sycasey
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Zippergate said:

That all vaccines are "safe and effective" is practically axiomatic these days, but I wonder if you have spent even five minutes engaging with the evidence presented by experts who say otherwise. Here's a good place to start.

https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/how-much-damage-have-vaccines-done

Yup, going after all the vaccines. Amazing.
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