Boston Univ creates a COVID variant that kills 80% it infects...meaning we just don't learn. This exactly the garbage the CCP was doing. I don't care how safe these labs think they are..it only takes one accident.
MinotStateBeav said:
Boston Univ creates a COVID variant that kills 80% it infects...meaning we just don't learn. This exactly the garbage the CCP was doing. I don't care how safe these labs think they are..it only takes one accident.
None of them will be sued for $965 Million. Internalize this https://t.co/PVFKMT4H15
— Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) October 18, 2022
#Pfizer #1A #censorship
— Asher Press (@AsherPress) August 1, 2022
Twitter was on the wrong side of history yesterday, and is on the wrong side of history today. pic.twitter.com/fGRDJfCXW3
Except you and others are making it up.Zippergate said:
You can't make this stuff up.
Zippergate said:
Here's the Thursday agenda for the ACIP committee meeting that starts on Wednesday, Oct 19:
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It's too ambiguous to figure out so we should assume the worst.
They aren't supposed to put an EUA vaccine on the Immunization Schedule, but since when has that stopped them?
This is the big prize for a vaccine manufacturer.
If you get put on the CDC childhood vaccine schedule, it means:
[ol]Liability protection forever for not just the vaccine for kids, but for the adult vaccine as well All states require vaccination in order to attend public school. Many tie their list to the CDC list or a subset thereof. So getting on the list is a key step to being mandated in many states. [/ol]That's why they've targeted the kids with a vaccine that they don't need.
Do you know any child who died from COVID? I'm a professional misinformation spreader and I've never heard of a single case where a healthy child died from COVID. That we should recommend a vaccine which is nearly 100 times more harmful than helpful is ridiculous (see this paper from Harvard, Johns Hopkins, UCSF, …).
But this isn't going to change anything because it's not about the science.
It's highly likely that on Thursday, the ACIP committee will vote to put the EUA COVID vaccines on the childhood vaccine schedule.
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This is another right wing outrage event but not a scandal. The article you posted does a good job of laying all of this out.MinotStateBeav said:
Follow up to Boston U researchers creating deadly Covid variant.
Top NIH director admits Boston lab that created new COVID strain did NOT clear research with agency.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11327741/Top-NIH-director-admits-Boston-lab-created-new-Covid-strain-did-NOT-clear-research-agency.html
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Boston University insisted it was not technically gain-of-function research because its chimeric virus only killed 80 per cent of mice. The original Wuhan strain, for comparison, killed 100 per cent of the rodents.
A spokesperson for the university told DailMail.com: 'In fact, this research made the virus less dangerous.'
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A spokesman for Boston University today told DailyMail.com they 'did not have an obligation to disclose this research'.
They said the experiments were carried out with funds from Boston University.
'NIAID funding was acknowledged as a courtesy because it was used to help develop the tools and platforms that were used in this research, they did not fund this research directly,' they said.
This left them with no obligation to report the research to the agency, they added.
Welcome back, Mr. Straw Man. Sorry but if we are to judge every idea by the looniest person and their ideas who share that idea, your side ain't gonna come out of this looking good either. What purebloods and 5G have to do with whether the vaccinated transmit the virus is beyond me and the fact that you would think that that's a clever rebuttal just goes to show how tragically detached from reality you are.Unit2Sucks said:Except you and others are making it up.Zippergate said:
You can't make this stuff up.
The whole "controversy" around the bogus claims made by a bunch of idiots was that just by virtue of getting the vaccine, people could "shed" virus and spread COVID. Not because they were infected with COVID, just by virtue of being vaccinated. That's why a bunch of these braindead zombies were running around calling themselves purebloods and proclaiming far and wide that they didn't want to be exposed to vaccinated people.
No one has ever shown any evidence to support a claim that vaccinated people (who are not infected with COVID) somehow still spread COVID. There is a secondary question which is whether vaccinated people who suffer breakthrough infections can still spread COVID. We obviously know now that they can and that the reduction in transmission isn't very significant with Omicron. But that doesn't change the fact that early on, vaccines did significantly reduce infection (and non-infected people don't spread COVID) and that there was some reduction in transmission for breakthrough infections vs infections of unvaccinated people. There have been a few studies about this (here's just one) showing various levels in reduction of transmission. I'm not sure there is much point to dealing with them now since Omicron is so transmissive and there are no other variants of interest that matter.
Twitter's policy on misleading information specifically references two relevant false claims: (1) "The vaccines will cause you to be sick, spread the virus, or would be more harmful than getting COVID-19" and (2) "False or misleading claims that people who have received the vaccine can spread or shed the vaccine (or symptoms, or immunity) to unvaccinated people." No one has ever shown anything to dispute the notion that those are wildly false claims to make yet so many idiots were saying them last year (and maybe still are, I have no idea). I know an idiot who was home-schooled and believed that the COVID test gave her boyfriend COVID. She also believes that there are 5G chips implanted in the vaccine and she was afraid of vaccinated people getting her sick. This is looney tunes level thinking and that's what Twitter attempted to address. I also believe this level of thinking is consistent with what Zipperhate has spread on BI.
Unit2Sucks said:This is another right wing outrage event but not a scandal. The article you posted does a good job of laying all of this out.MinotStateBeav said:
Follow up to Boston U researchers creating deadly Covid variant.
Top NIH director admits Boston lab that created new COVID strain did NOT clear research with agency.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11327741/Top-NIH-director-admits-Boston-lab-created-new-Covid-strain-did-NOT-clear-research-agency.htmlQuote:
Boston University insisted it was not technically gain-of-function research because its chimeric virus only killed 80 per cent of mice. The original Wuhan strain, for comparison, killed 100 per cent of the rodents.
A spokesperson for the university told DailMail.com: 'In fact, this research made the virus less dangerous.'
...
A spokesman for Boston University today told DailyMail.com they 'did not have an obligation to disclose this research'.
They said the experiments were carried out with funds from Boston University.
'NIAID funding was acknowledged as a courtesy because it was used to help develop the tools and platforms that were used in this research, they did not fund this research directly,' they said.
This left them with no obligation to report the research to the agency, they added.
I understand there are argument as to whether this is gain of function research, but in any event it was not funded or in any way approved by the government.
I'm not going to defend the research - I have no idea what they were trying to accomplish here or what the real risks are, but I think it's incredibly disingenuous for anyone to equate what happened here with the gain of function research that people have speculated happened at WIV and to COVID. All of which is still speculation, of course.
Zippergate said:
A new study on Covid-19's infection fatality rate (IFR) by age from a team led by Dr. John Ioannidis, the world's most-cited physician, estimates that Covid's IFR in the pre-vaccine era was under 0.1% for those under 70even lower than previously believed.
Dr. Ioannidis et. al. found that across 31 national seroprevalence studies in the pre-vaccine era, the median IFR was 0.0003% at 0-19 years, 0.003% at 20-29 years, 0.011% at 30-39 years, 0.035% at 40-49 years, 0.129% at 50-59 years, and 0.501% at 60-69 years. This comes out to 0.035% for those aged 0-59 and 0.095% for those aged 0-69.
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Wow, so glad we destroyed the economy, permanently impaired the learning of a generation of children, and forced them to take experimental therapies that have side effects and have no long term safety data. Brilliant
Unit2Sucks said:This is another right wing outrage event but not a scandal. The article you posted does a good job of laying all of this out.MinotStateBeav said:
Follow up to Boston U researchers creating deadly Covid variant.
Top NIH director admits Boston lab that created new COVID strain did NOT clear research with agency.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11327741/Top-NIH-director-admits-Boston-lab-created-new-Covid-strain-did-NOT-clear-research-agency.htmlQuote:
Boston University insisted it was not technically gain-of-function research because its chimeric virus only killed 80 per cent of mice. The original Wuhan strain, for comparison, killed 100 per cent of the rodents.
A spokesperson for the university told DailMail.com: 'In fact, this research made the virus less dangerous.'
...
A spokesman for Boston University today told DailyMail.com they 'did not have an obligation to disclose this research'.
They said the experiments were carried out with funds from Boston University.
'NIAID funding was acknowledged as a courtesy because it was used to help develop the tools and platforms that were used in this research, they did not fund this research directly,' they said.
This left them with no obligation to report the research to the agency, they added.
I understand there are argument as to whether this is gain of function research, but in any event it was not funded or in any way approved by the government.
I'm not going to defend the research - I have no idea what they were trying to accomplish here or what the real risks are, but I think it's incredibly disingenuous for anyone to equate what happened here with the gain of function research that people have speculated happened at WIV and to COVID. All of which is still speculation, of course.
We've been thinking that the Omicron variant evolved from an immunocompromised individual with accelerated in vivo mutations. A new report @PNASNews raises the potential that it emanated from mice -> humanshttps://t.co/3E9Jd5t3JK pic.twitter.com/JURH76xR4L
— Eric Topol (@EricTopol) October 18, 2022
oski003 said:Unit2Sucks said:This is another right wing outrage event but not a scandal. The article you posted does a good job of laying all of this out.MinotStateBeav said:
Follow up to Boston U researchers creating deadly Covid variant.
Top NIH director admits Boston lab that created new COVID strain did NOT clear research with agency.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11327741/Top-NIH-director-admits-Boston-lab-created-new-Covid-strain-did-NOT-clear-research-agency.htmlQuote:
Boston University insisted it was not technically gain-of-function research because its chimeric virus only killed 80 per cent of mice. The original Wuhan strain, for comparison, killed 100 per cent of the rodents.
A spokesperson for the university told DailMail.com: 'In fact, this research made the virus less dangerous.'
...
A spokesman for Boston University today told DailyMail.com they 'did not have an obligation to disclose this research'.
They said the experiments were carried out with funds from Boston University.
'NIAID funding was acknowledged as a courtesy because it was used to help develop the tools and platforms that were used in this research, they did not fund this research directly,' they said.
This left them with no obligation to report the research to the agency, they added.
I understand there are argument as to whether this is gain of function research, but in any event it was not funded or in any way approved by the government.
I'm not going to defend the research - I have no idea what they were trying to accomplish here or what the real risks are, but I think it's incredibly disingenuous for anyone to equate what happened here with the gain of function research that people have speculated happened at WIV and to COVID. All of which is still speculation, of course.
Omicron could very well have been man made by, you guessed it, experiments with mice.We've been thinking that the Omicron variant evolved from an immunocompromised individual with accelerated in vivo mutations. A new report @PNASNews raises the potential that it emanated from mice -> humanshttps://t.co/3E9Jd5t3JK pic.twitter.com/JURH76xR4L
— Eric Topol (@EricTopol) October 18, 2022
oski003 said:Zippergate said:
A new study on Covid-19's infection fatality rate (IFR) by age from a team led by Dr. John Ioannidis, the world's most-cited physician, estimates that Covid's IFR in the pre-vaccine era was under 0.1% for those under 70even lower than previously believed.
Dr. Ioannidis et. al. found that across 31 national seroprevalence studies in the pre-vaccine era, the median IFR was 0.0003% at 0-19 years, 0.003% at 20-29 years, 0.011% at 30-39 years, 0.035% at 40-49 years, 0.129% at 50-59 years, and 0.501% at 60-69 years. This comes out to 0.035% for those aged 0-59 and 0.095% for those aged 0-69.
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Wow, so glad we destroyed the economy, permanently impaired the learning of a generation of children, and forced them to take experimental therapies that have side effects and have no long term safety data. Brilliant
I think it is still pretty high for those above 39. 1/2500 or so is still a decent fatality rate for such an infectious disease. 30-39 is borderline but under 30 is extremely rare. It was a deadly disease.
Ioannidis is a crank who was incredibly wrong about COVID and has never acknowledged it. I have no idea whether his new study is reasonable or not but back of the envelope math says that about 0.3% of all Americans have died of COVID in the last 2.5 years and some number less than 100% of Americans have had COVID. I suppose that a number of people have had COVID more than once but to my knowledge no one has died more than once.oski003 said:Zippergate said:
A new study on Covid-19's infection fatality rate (IFR) by age from a team led by Dr. John Ioannidis, the world's most-cited physician, estimates that Covid's IFR in the pre-vaccine era was under 0.1% for those under 70even lower than previously believed.
Dr. Ioannidis et. al. found that across 31 national seroprevalence studies in the pre-vaccine era, the median IFR was 0.0003% at 0-19 years, 0.003% at 20-29 years, 0.011% at 30-39 years, 0.035% at 40-49 years, 0.129% at 50-59 years, and 0.501% at 60-69 years. This comes out to 0.035% for those aged 0-59 and 0.095% for those aged 0-69.
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Wow, so glad we destroyed the economy, permanently impaired the learning of a generation of children, and forced them to take experimental therapies that have side effects and have no long term safety data. Brilliant
I think it is still pretty high for those above 39. 1/2500 or so is still a decent fatality rate for such an infectious disease. 30-39 is borderline but under 30 is extremely rare. It was a deadly disease.
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But instead of evolving their position based on new data, some, instead, keep trying to show how they were still right in early 2020, digging themselves an even deeper hole. A case in point is Stanford professor John Ioannidis, who, in March 2020, argued that governments were overreacting to the threat of Covid. He mocked those who worried that the "68 deaths from Covid-19 in the US as of 16 March will increase exponentially to 680, 6,800, 68,000, 680,000". He estimated that the US might suffer only 10,000 deaths. He also was cynical that vaccines or treatments could be developed in any timeframe that would affect the trajectory of the pandemic.
Two years later, the current US death toll stands at 969,000, with almost 250,000 of those being people under 65. These numbers would have once been seen as outlandish. In addition, in less than a year we had developed safe and effective vaccines and a year after that, safe and effective antivirals. One would expect these facts to prompt an academic to reconsider their initial assumptions but instead, Ioannidis has continued to publish articles solidifying his starting position.
Why is this the case? Why can't academics just admit that they might have got their assumptions wrong at the start, or reassess their positions? I think it's a mix of playing to a fanbase that has formed over two years (in this case, an anti-lockdown, "Covid-as-flu" base), and the idea that moving with new data is a sign of backtracking and weakness, instead of the basic scientific virtue of reflection and re-analysis. The overall need is to be proven "right" for oneself and a small group of followers, rather than right for society.
movielover said:oski003 said:Zippergate said:
A new study on Covid-19's infection fatality rate (IFR) by age from a team led by Dr. John Ioannidis, the world's most-cited physician, estimates that Covid's IFR in the pre-vaccine era was under 0.1% for those under 70even lower than previously believed.
Dr. Ioannidis et. al. found that across 31 national seroprevalence studies in the pre-vaccine era, the median IFR was 0.0003% at 0-19 years, 0.003% at 20-29 years, 0.011% at 30-39 years, 0.035% at 40-49 years, 0.129% at 50-59 years, and 0.501% at 60-69 years. This comes out to 0.035% for those aged 0-59 and 0.095% for those aged 0-69.
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Wow, so glad we destroyed the economy, permanently impaired the learning of a generation of children, and forced them to take experimental therapies that have side effects and have no long term safety data. Brilliant
I think it is still pretty high for those above 39. 1/2500 or so is still a decent fatality rate for such an infectious disease. 30-39 is borderline but under 30 is extremely rare. It was a deadly disease.
It was generally a deadly disease for those who typically were older, and had multiple co morbidities. Diabetes, pneumonia, high blood pressure, and morbid obesity - with Covid on top. Often over 70 or 80. As one doctor said at the time, "They weren't at deaths door, they had one foot through the threshold."
That was in 2020. I believe there are now reports that there are an increased number of young people dying from or with Covid, which is counter intuitive. Herd immunity up; as the virus mutates, it weakens; the most sick and elderly have already died; what, over 100M vaccinated; and doctors and hospitals knowledgeable and with tools. The deaths should have dropped.
bearister said:
No mention of healthcare workers worldwide who had to staff overflowing ER's and got burned out, got sick and died.
If you don't take the safety precautions recommended by Mayo Clinic, Harvard Medical School, Stanford Medical School and UCSF, and least have the common courtesy to go into an alley way and die like a dog and not overtax the healthcare system. Make your choice. Don't be a p@ussy. You gotta commit….and if you get Long Covid and blew off precautions, quit whining and go f@uck yourself.
*Also you need to lay out in detail why you guys are so much smarter than the people in Asia that take Covid precautions seriously.
bearister said:
No mention of healthcare workers worldwide who had to staff overflowing ER's and got burned out, got sick and died.
If you don't take the safety precautions recommended by Mayo Clinic, Harvard Medical School, Stanford Medical School and UCSF, and least have the common courtesy to go into an alley way and die like a dog and not overtax the healthcare system. Make your choice. Don't be a p@ussy. You gotta commit….and if you get Long Covid and blew off precautions, quit whining and go f@uck yourself.
*Also you need to lay out in detail why you guys are so much smarter than the people in Asia that take Covid precautions seriously.
It's always sad to see patients in the ICU who have not been vaccinated and now suffer the consequences of the lack of action as they struggle to breathe with that wide-eyed look of terror but that time it's too late, it's up to a higher power as to whether you survive. The staff will try their best but resources at a hospital are finite as we saw in the early stages of the pandemic. The biggest issue is the staff that spends the most time with the patients trying to keep them alive long enough so that the patient might recover. Nurses are quitting in droves and you can't create them out of thin air. It takes time to educate and get experience in order for a nurse to be competent enough to handle the type of issues that arise when caring for COVID patients. They will never say this but the staff works harder trying to save those who at least made some sort of effort to protect themselves.bearister said:
No mention of healthcare workers worldwide who had to staff overflowing ER's and got burned out, got sick and died.
If you don't take the safety precautions recommended by Mayo Clinic, Harvard Medical School, Stanford Medical School and UCSF, and least have the common courtesy to go into an alley way and die like a dog and not overtax the healthcare system. Make your choice. Don't be a p@ussy. You gotta commit….and if you get Long Covid and blew off precautions, quit whining and go f@uck yourself.
*Also you need to lay out in detail why you guys are so much smarter than the people in Asia that take Covid precautions seriously.
Zippergate said:
A reminder that to my knowledge, not a single American has received a dose of an FDA-approved vaccine.
SCIENCE in 2022
You are, of course, correct. I meant to say that no American has received an FDA-approved COVID vaccine. Actually, I'm glad you noted that because it reminded me to make an important point.Eastern Oregon Bear said:Zippergate said:
A reminder that to my knowledge, not a single American has received a dose of an FDA-approved vaccine.
SCIENCE in 2022
Nonsense. Millions of people receive an FDA approved vaccine each year.
Zipperhate thinks this is his checkmate move but, once again, this is all a fantasy. He has predictably fallen for laughably false misinformation. Even Robert Malone, his sainted genius, who was one of the first people to spread this idiotic rumor has acknowledged that it was false and based on a misunderstanding.Zippergate said:You are, of course, correct. I meant to say that no American has received an FDA-approved COVID vaccine. Actually, I'm glad you noted that because it reminded me to make an important point.Eastern Oregon Bear said:Zippergate said:
A reminder that to my knowledge, not a single American has received a dose of an FDA-approved vaccine.
SCIENCE in 2022
Nonsense. Millions of people receive an FDA approved vaccine each year.
The FDA approved Comirnaty which is supposedly the same as the BioNtech Pfizer gene therapy, but Pfizer only sells the EUA version. Why is that? The "approval" was just a cynical ploy to give the Pharma Industrial Complex cover to force the vaxxine on everyone while at the same time shielding manufacturers from liability under the protection of the EUA. Now that the vaxxines are on the child vaccine schedule, that is no longer important. Pfizer will have full immunity from liability. That's why this decision was made today. Well, that and the mega profits Pfizer will make selling vaccines year after year to the government for every child who attends public school. And all medical experts who made this possible, the pigs at the pharma grant trough, will be swimming in grant money.
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Malone quickly conceded his statement on the Bannon show was wrong. "When one is doing rapid analysis on the fly, one does not always get everything right," he told The Fact Checker. "On this particular legal liability issue I did not hunt down the details myself, and relied on comments from a third party lawyer which were not fully correct." He said the statements we received from Pfizer and HHS "are consistent with my current understanding."
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Indeed, contrary to the claims of Malone and others, the Comirnaty vaccine has the same liability protection as the vaccine approved under the EUA. That's because of a law known as the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act (PREP Act).
In early 2020, after the coronavirus emerged, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar invoked the PREP Act to "provide liability immunity for activities related to medical countermeasures against covid-19." So that covers all vaccines that might be produced to combat the coronavirus, whether fully authorized or not.
The PREP Act designation means that claims related to coronavirus vaccines are covered by the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program (CICP), not the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP), which was set up to handle vaccine lawsuits.
Unit2Sucks said:Zipperhate thinks this is his checkmate move but, once again, this is all a fantasy. He has predictably fallen for laughably false misinformation. Even Robert Malone, his sainted genius, who was one of the first people to spread this idiotic rumor has acknowledged that it was false and based on a misunderstanding.Zippergate said:You are, of course, correct. I meant to say that no American has received an FDA-approved COVID vaccine. Actually, I'm glad you noted that because it reminded me to make an important point.Eastern Oregon Bear said:Zippergate said:
A reminder that to my knowledge, not a single American has received a dose of an FDA-approved vaccine.
SCIENCE in 2022
Nonsense. Millions of people receive an FDA approved vaccine each year.
The FDA approved Comirnaty which is supposedly the same as the BioNtech Pfizer gene therapy, but Pfizer only sells the EUA version. Why is that? The "approval" was just a cynical ploy to give the Pharma Industrial Complex cover to force the vaxxine on everyone while at the same time shielding manufacturers from liability under the protection of the EUA. Now that the vaxxines are on the child vaccine schedule, that is no longer important. Pfizer will have full immunity from liability. That's why this decision was made today. Well, that and the mega profits Pfizer will make selling vaccines year after year to the government for every child who attends public school. And all medical experts who made this possible, the pigs at the pharma grant trough, will be swimming in grant money.
I am not going to bother rehashing why he is wrong in detail, because he is allergic to facts and will just ignore it any way, but if anyone is interested what these idiots are talking about when they make these claims, here you go. I have no doubt that ZH and other idiots will continue to make this false claim again and again thinking that it proves something (other than their anti-vax radicalization), but this is the last time I'm going to respond to this non-issue.Quote:
Malone quickly conceded his statement on the Bannon show was wrong. "When one is doing rapid analysis on the fly, one does not always get everything right," he told The Fact Checker. "On this particular legal liability issue I did not hunt down the details myself, and relied on comments from a third party lawyer which were not fully correct." He said the statements we received from Pfizer and HHS "are consistent with my current understanding."
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Indeed, contrary to the claims of Malone and others, the Comirnaty vaccine has the same liability protection as the vaccine approved under the EUA. That's because of a law known as the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act (PREP Act).
In early 2020, after the coronavirus emerged, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar invoked the PREP Act to "provide liability immunity for activities related to medical countermeasures against covid-19." So that covers all vaccines that might be produced to combat the coronavirus, whether fully authorized or not.
The PREP Act designation means that claims related to coronavirus vaccines are covered by the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program (CICP), not the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP), which was set up to handle vaccine lawsuits.
Go ahead and take the horse de-wormer. While you are at it, please stick a laser up your a$$ and drink bleach. Then we will not have to listen to your bull**** anymore.movielover said:bearister said:
No mention of healthcare workers worldwide who had to staff overflowing ER's and got burned out, got sick and died.
If you don't take the safety precautions recommended by Mayo Clinic, Harvard Medical School, Stanford Medical School and UCSF, and least have the common courtesy to go into an alley way and die like a dog and not overtax the healthcare system. Make your choice. Don't be a p@ussy. You gotta commit….and if you get Long Covid and blew off precautions, quit whining and go f@uck yourself.
*Also you need to lay out in detail why you guys are so much smarter than the people in Asia that take Covid precautions seriously.
Please explain many countries in Africa who have low vaxx rates and very low Covid infection rates, and death rates. More specifically, those who took Ivermectin for river blindness had a very low Covid infection rate. (They also have low obesity rates, and high Vitamin D uptake (the sun).)
I recall some of the first times I heard about the "Military Industrial Complex", and now it seems we have "Big Pharma".
calpoly said:Go ahead and take the horse de-wormer. While you are at it, please stick a laser up your a$$ and drink bleach. Then we will not have to listen to your bull**** anymore.movielover said:bearister said:
No mention of healthcare workers worldwide who had to staff overflowing ER's and got burned out, got sick and died.
If you don't take the safety precautions recommended by Mayo Clinic, Harvard Medical School, Stanford Medical School and UCSF, and least have the common courtesy to go into an alley way and die like a dog and not overtax the healthcare system. Make your choice. Don't be a p@ussy. You gotta commit….and if you get Long Covid and blew off precautions, quit whining and go f@uck yourself.
*Also you need to lay out in detail why you guys are so much smarter than the people in Asia that take Covid precautions seriously.
Please explain many countries in Africa who have low vaxx rates and very low Covid infection rates, and death rates. More specifically, those who took Ivermectin for river blindness had a very low Covid infection rate. (They also have low obesity rates, and high Vitamin D uptake (the sun).)
I recall some of the first times I heard about the "Military Industrial Complex", and now it seems we have "Big Pharma".
Where did he call you a name? I just see suggestions that you use the various "folk" medications for Covid the unscrupulous have been pushing. The laser treatment is a new one for me though.movielover said:
Deflection by name calling. What flavor is your Koolaid?
It's comments like these that cause me to doubt whether the republic can continue to exist. Such ignorance expressed with absolute certainty and utter contempt for other viewpoints.Quote:
Go ahead and take the horse de-wormer. While you are at it, please stick a laser up your a$$ and drink bleach. Then we will not have to listen to your bull**** anymore.