Livestream: Kyle Kyle Rittenhouse trial opening statements

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He is probably not vaxxed either since that is on his "bundled belief system" checklist. He looks like he has a good head start to eating himself into Covid roadkill status.
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Once again the Onion says it best.



Meanwhile a conservative in congress wants us all to be less safe.

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This sets a very bad Precedence.
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going4roses said:

Are you ok?

All bs aside?

Is everything ok ?
I am genuinely interested in what facts you have to support that Rittenhouse is racist. Please don't answer in a TikTok video. I think you can write clear coherent thoughts without a crutch.
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oski003 said:

going4roses said:

Kyle is going to find plenty work at KKK events /Gun rallies
When he was freed on bail, it was his 18th birthday. He is in a picture with some Proud Boys at a bar. Is there other evidence that he is actually racist? Why would you even bring up the KKK? He is white and supports and wants to be a police officer. Does that make him racist?

Both doctors and strippers get paid to touch your junk and make more per hour than you do all day. Are they the same?


I don't think that having drinks with proud boys is what made him racist but it's a pretty strong indication that he's racist. Intentionally hanging out with proud boys, flashing the white power sign for photos certainly tell a story. Do you need a video of him telling you he is a white supremacist? What other evidence would suffice?

He beats up girls, talks about shooting protestors and seems to be all around deplorable. Why are you so keen on defending him? Other than your apparently unending desire to be a contrarian here.




I wasn't that knowledgeable about the proud boys but they seem like run of the mill white supremacists to me.

Here's what the SPLC says:

Quote:

White nationalists and neo-Nazis themselves have cited McInnes as a gateway to the alt-right. On "The Southern AF Podcast," one former Proud Boy who went on to embrace white nationalism said he was originally drawn to the group because of its "pro-white sentiment." "All his jokes, all his content when I first started listening to him," he said of McInnes, "was all freakin' alt-right stuff and racial issues and funny, comedic ways to like try to point out that white civilization has been superior." Many Proud Boys like him have moved on to more extreme groups and ideologies.

Other hardcore members of the alt-right have argued that the "Western chauvinist" label is just a "PR cuck term" McInnes crafted to gain mainstream acceptance. "Let's not bull****," Brian Brathovd, aka Caerulus Rex, told his co-hosts on "The Daily Shoah," an antisemitic podcast popular with the alt-right. If the Proud Boys "were pressed on the issue, I guarantee you that like 90% of them would tell you something along the lines of 'Hitler was right. Gas the Jews.'"



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Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

going4roses said:

Kyle is going to find plenty work at KKK events /Gun rallies
When he was freed on bail, it was his 18th birthday. He is in a picture with some Proud Boys at a bar. Is there other evidence that he is actually racist? Why would you even bring up the KKK? He is white and supports and wants to be a police officer. Does that make him racist?

Both doctors and strippers get paid to touch your junk and make more per hour than you do all day. Are they the same?


I don't think that having drinks with proud boys is what made him racist but it's a pretty strong indication that he's racist. Intentionally hanging out with proud boys, flashing the white power sign for photos certainly tell a story. Do you need a video of him telling you he is a white supremacist? What other evidence would suffice?

He beats up girls, talks about shooting protestors and seems to be all around deplorable. Why are you so keen on defending him? Other than your apparently unending desire to be a contrarian here.




I wasn't that knowledgeable about the proud boys but they seem like run of the mill white supremacists to me.

Here's what the SPLC says:

Quote:

White nationalists and neo-Nazis themselves have cited McInnes as a gateway to the alt-right. On "The Southern AF Podcast," one former Proud Boy who went on to embrace white nationalism said he was originally drawn to the group because of its "pro-white sentiment." "All his jokes, all his content when I first started listening to him," he said of McInnes, "was all freakin' alt-right stuff and racial issues and funny, comedic ways to like try to point out that white civilization has been superior." Many Proud Boys like him have moved on to more extreme groups and ideologies.

Other hardcore members of the alt-right have argued that the "Western chauvinist" label is just a "PR cuck term" McInnes crafted to gain mainstream acceptance. "Let's not bull****," Brian Brathovd, aka Caerulus Rex, told his co-hosts on "The Daily Shoah," an antisemitic podcast popular with the alt-right. If the Proud Boys "were pressed on the issue, I guarantee you that like 90% of them would tell you something along the lines of 'Hitler was right. Gas the Jews.'"





What you just posted is a bunch of garbage. Did you major in deflection? Besides the event I mentioned, what evidence exists that he is a racist? I was asking G4R. Regardless, if you have the ability to directly answer a question, now would be a good time to demonstrate it.
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oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

going4roses said:

Kyle is going to find plenty work at KKK events /Gun rallies
When he was freed on bail, it was his 18th birthday. He is in a picture with some Proud Boys at a bar. Is there other evidence that he is actually racist? Why would you even bring up the KKK? He is white and supports and wants to be a police officer. Does that make him racist?

Both doctors and strippers get paid to touch your junk and make more per hour than you do all day. Are they the same?


I don't think that having drinks with proud boys is what made him racist but it's a pretty strong indication that he's racist. Intentionally hanging out with proud boys, flashing the white power sign for photos certainly tell a story. Do you need a video of him telling you he is a white supremacist? What other evidence would suffice?

He beats up girls, talks about shooting protestors and seems to be all around deplorable. Why are you so keen on defending him? Other than your apparently unending desire to be a contrarian here.




I wasn't that knowledgeable about the proud boys but they seem like run of the mill white supremacists to me.

Here's what the SPLC says:

Quote:

White nationalists and neo-Nazis themselves have cited McInnes as a gateway to the alt-right. On "The Southern AF Podcast," one former Proud Boy who went on to embrace white nationalism said he was originally drawn to the group because of its "pro-white sentiment." "All his jokes, all his content when I first started listening to him," he said of McInnes, "was all freakin' alt-right stuff and racial issues and funny, comedic ways to like try to point out that white civilization has been superior." Many Proud Boys like him have moved on to more extreme groups and ideologies.

Other hardcore members of the alt-right have argued that the "Western chauvinist" label is just a "PR cuck term" McInnes crafted to gain mainstream acceptance. "Let's not bull****," Brian Brathovd, aka Caerulus Rex, told his co-hosts on "The Daily Shoah," an antisemitic podcast popular with the alt-right. If the Proud Boys "were pressed on the issue, I guarantee you that like 90% of them would tell you something along the lines of 'Hitler was right. Gas the Jews.'"





What you just posted is a bunch of garbage. Did you major in deflection? Besides the event I mentioned, what evidence exists that he is a racist? I was asking G4R. Regardless, if you have the ability to directly answer a question, now would be a good time to demonstrate it.
I literally answered the question "does that make him racist?"

Are you capable of reading English? That's rhetorical by the any, we all know you can read whatever you need in order to make some half baked contrarian argument.
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Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

going4roses said:

Kyle is going to find plenty work at KKK events /Gun rallies
When he was freed on bail, it was his 18th birthday. He is in a picture with some Proud Boys at a bar. Is there other evidence that he is actually racist? Why would you even bring up the KKK? He is white and supports and wants to be a police officer. Does that make him racist?

Both doctors and strippers get paid to touch your junk and make more per hour than you do all day. Are they the same?


I don't think that having drinks with proud boys is what made him racist but it's a pretty strong indication that he's racist. Intentionally hanging out with proud boys, flashing the white power sign for photos certainly tell a story. Do you need a video of him telling you he is a white supremacist? What other evidence would suffice?

He beats up girls, talks about shooting protestors and seems to be all around deplorable. Why are you so keen on defending him? Other than your apparently unending desire to be a contrarian here.




I wasn't that knowledgeable about the proud boys but they seem like run of the mill white supremacists to me.

Here's what the SPLC says:

Quote:

White nationalists and neo-Nazis themselves have cited McInnes as a gateway to the alt-right. On "The Southern AF Podcast," one former Proud Boy who went on to embrace white nationalism said he was originally drawn to the group because of its "pro-white sentiment." "All his jokes, all his content when I first started listening to him," he said of McInnes, "was all freakin' alt-right stuff and racial issues and funny, comedic ways to like try to point out that white civilization has been superior." Many Proud Boys like him have moved on to more extreme groups and ideologies.

Other hardcore members of the alt-right have argued that the "Western chauvinist" label is just a "PR cuck term" McInnes crafted to gain mainstream acceptance. "Let's not bull****," Brian Brathovd, aka Caerulus Rex, told his co-hosts on "The Daily Shoah," an antisemitic podcast popular with the alt-right. If the Proud Boys "were pressed on the issue, I guarantee you that like 90% of them would tell you something along the lines of 'Hitler was right. Gas the Jews.'"





What you just posted is a bunch of garbage. Did you major in deflection? Besides the event I mentioned, what evidence exists that he is a racist? I was asking G4R. Regardless, if you have the ability to directly answer a question, now would be a good time to demonstrate it.
I literally answered the question "does that make him racist?"

Are you capable of reading English? That's rhetorical by the any, we all know you can read whatever you need in order to make some half baked contrarian argument.
My question was: despite the photo with the Proud Boys AFTER arraignment, what evidence do you have that makes him a racist.

Your answer, when removing the other BS:

I believe the photos taken in a bar on his 18th birthday, after being arraigned, in which he posed with Proud Boys members and flashed the "OK" sign, is enough evidence to call him racist.





oski003
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oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

going4roses said:

Kyle is going to find plenty work at KKK events /Gun rallies
When he was freed on bail, it was his 18th birthday. He is in a picture with some Proud Boys at a bar. Is there other evidence that he is actually racist? Why would you even bring up the KKK? He is white and supports and wants to be a police officer. Does that make him racist?

Both doctors and strippers get paid to touch your junk and make more per hour than you do all day. Are they the same?


I don't think that having drinks with proud boys is what made him racist but it's a pretty strong indication that he's racist. Intentionally hanging out with proud boys, flashing the white power sign for photos certainly tell a story. Do you need a video of him telling you he is a white supremacist? What other evidence would suffice?

He beats up girls, talks about shooting protestors and seems to be all around deplorable. Why are you so keen on defending him? Other than your apparently unending desire to be a contrarian here.




I wasn't that knowledgeable about the proud boys but they seem like run of the mill white supremacists to me.

Here's what the SPLC says:

Quote:

White nationalists and neo-Nazis themselves have cited McInnes as a gateway to the alt-right. On "The Southern AF Podcast," one former Proud Boy who went on to embrace white nationalism said he was originally drawn to the group because of its "pro-white sentiment." "All his jokes, all his content when I first started listening to him," he said of McInnes, "was all freakin' alt-right stuff and racial issues and funny, comedic ways to like try to point out that white civilization has been superior." Many Proud Boys like him have moved on to more extreme groups and ideologies.

Other hardcore members of the alt-right have argued that the "Western chauvinist" label is just a "PR cuck term" McInnes crafted to gain mainstream acceptance. "Let's not bull****," Brian Brathovd, aka Caerulus Rex, told his co-hosts on "The Daily Shoah," an antisemitic podcast popular with the alt-right. If the Proud Boys "were pressed on the issue, I guarantee you that like 90% of them would tell you something along the lines of 'Hitler was right. Gas the Jews.'"





What you just posted is a bunch of garbage. Did you major in deflection? Besides the event I mentioned, what evidence exists that he is a racist? I was asking G4R. Regardless, if you have the ability to directly answer a question, now would be a good time to demonstrate it.
I literally answered the question "does that make him racist?"

Are you capable of reading English? That's rhetorical by the any, we all know you can read whatever you need in order to make some half baked contrarian argument.
My question was: despite the photo with the Proud Boys AFTER arraignment, what evidence do you have that makes him a racist.

Your answer, when removing the other BS:

I believe the photos taken in a bar on his 18th birthday, after being arraigned, in which he posed with Proud Boys members and flashed the "OK" sign, is enough evidence to call him racist.
Unit2Sucks
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oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

going4roses said:

Kyle is going to find plenty work at KKK events /Gun rallies
When he was freed on bail, it was his 18th birthday. He is in a picture with some Proud Boys at a bar. Is there other evidence that he is actually racist? Why would you even bring up the KKK? He is white and supports and wants to be a police officer. Does that make him racist?

Both doctors and strippers get paid to touch your junk and make more per hour than you do all day. Are they the same?


I don't think that having drinks with proud boys is what made him racist but it's a pretty strong indication that he's racist. Intentionally hanging out with proud boys, flashing the white power sign for photos certainly tell a story. Do you need a video of him telling you he is a white supremacist? What other evidence would suffice?

He beats up girls, talks about shooting protestors and seems to be all around deplorable. Why are you so keen on defending him? Other than your apparently unending desire to be a contrarian here.




I wasn't that knowledgeable about the proud boys but they seem like run of the mill white supremacists to me.

Here's what the SPLC says:

Quote:

White nationalists and neo-Nazis themselves have cited McInnes as a gateway to the alt-right. On "The Southern AF Podcast," one former Proud Boy who went on to embrace white nationalism said he was originally drawn to the group because of its "pro-white sentiment." "All his jokes, all his content when I first started listening to him," he said of McInnes, "was all freakin' alt-right stuff and racial issues and funny, comedic ways to like try to point out that white civilization has been superior." Many Proud Boys like him have moved on to more extreme groups and ideologies.

Other hardcore members of the alt-right have argued that the "Western chauvinist" label is just a "PR cuck term" McInnes crafted to gain mainstream acceptance. "Let's not bull****," Brian Brathovd, aka Caerulus Rex, told his co-hosts on "The Daily Shoah," an antisemitic podcast popular with the alt-right. If the Proud Boys "were pressed on the issue, I guarantee you that like 90% of them would tell you something along the lines of 'Hitler was right. Gas the Jews.'"





What you just posted is a bunch of garbage. Did you major in deflection? Besides the event I mentioned, what evidence exists that he is a racist? I was asking G4R. Regardless, if you have the ability to directly answer a question, now would be a good time to demonstrate it.
I literally answered the question "does that make him racist?"

Are you capable of reading English? That's rhetorical by the any, we all know you can read whatever you need in order to make some half baked contrarian argument.
My question was: despite the photo with the Proud Boys AFTER arraignment, what evidence do you have that makes him a racist.

Your answer, when removing the other BS:

I believe the photos taken in a bar on his 18th birthday, after being arraigned, in which he posed with Proud Boys members and flashed the "OK" sign, is enough evidence to call him racist.
You're right, other than flashing a white power symbol in a photograph with members of a known white supremacist organization, and being a trump 2020 and bluelivesmatter anti-woke activist, I don't have much evidence that 4doorsmore*****s is a racist.

That's enough for me. What evidence do you have that he's not a racist?
oski003
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Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

going4roses said:

Kyle is going to find plenty work at KKK events /Gun rallies
When he was freed on bail, it was his 18th birthday. He is in a picture with some Proud Boys at a bar. Is there other evidence that he is actually racist? Why would you even bring up the KKK? He is white and supports and wants to be a police officer. Does that make him racist?

Both doctors and strippers get paid to touch your junk and make more per hour than you do all day. Are they the same?


I don't think that having drinks with proud boys is what made him racist but it's a pretty strong indication that he's racist. Intentionally hanging out with proud boys, flashing the white power sign for photos certainly tell a story. Do you need a video of him telling you he is a white supremacist? What other evidence would suffice?

He beats up girls, talks about shooting protestors and seems to be all around deplorable. Why are you so keen on defending him? Other than your apparently unending desire to be a contrarian here.




I wasn't that knowledgeable about the proud boys but they seem like run of the mill white supremacists to me.

Here's what the SPLC says:

Quote:

White nationalists and neo-Nazis themselves have cited McInnes as a gateway to the alt-right. On "The Southern AF Podcast," one former Proud Boy who went on to embrace white nationalism said he was originally drawn to the group because of its "pro-white sentiment." "All his jokes, all his content when I first started listening to him," he said of McInnes, "was all freakin' alt-right stuff and racial issues and funny, comedic ways to like try to point out that white civilization has been superior." Many Proud Boys like him have moved on to more extreme groups and ideologies.

Other hardcore members of the alt-right have argued that the "Western chauvinist" label is just a "PR cuck term" McInnes crafted to gain mainstream acceptance. "Let's not bull****," Brian Brathovd, aka Caerulus Rex, told his co-hosts on "The Daily Shoah," an antisemitic podcast popular with the alt-right. If the Proud Boys "were pressed on the issue, I guarantee you that like 90% of them would tell you something along the lines of 'Hitler was right. Gas the Jews.'"





What you just posted is a bunch of garbage. Did you major in deflection? Besides the event I mentioned, what evidence exists that he is a racist? I was asking G4R. Regardless, if you have the ability to directly answer a question, now would be a good time to demonstrate it.
I literally answered the question "does that make him racist?"

Are you capable of reading English? That's rhetorical by the any, we all know you can read whatever you need in order to make some half baked contrarian argument.
My question was: despite the photo with the Proud Boys AFTER arraignment, what evidence do you have that makes him a racist.

Your answer, when removing the other BS:

I believe the photos taken in a bar on his 18th birthday, after being arraigned, in which he posed with Proud Boys members and flashed the "OK" sign, is enough evidence to call him racist.
You're right, other than flashing a white power symbol in a photograph with members of a known white supremacist organization, and being a trump 2020 and bluelivesmatter anti-woke activist, I don't have much evidence that 4doorsmore*****s is a racist.

That's enough for me. What evidence do you have that he's not a racist?
Your lack of evidence that he is a racist is enough at least make it a debatable issue. The woke looters and rioters he shot were where he and his family lived, contrary to how the media portrays it. Defending police officers is not racist. All you have are photos on his birthday, after his arraignment. Is he a proud boy? This may be the type of life-changing event that pushes him in that direction, but I have not seen any evidence that he is racist, prior to the shooting. The vilification surely doesn't help him.

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oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

going4roses said:

Kyle is going to find plenty work at KKK events /Gun rallies
When he was freed on bail, it was his 18th birthday. He is in a picture with some Proud Boys at a bar. Is there other evidence that he is actually racist? Why would you even bring up the KKK? He is white and supports and wants to be a police officer. Does that make him racist?

Both doctors and strippers get paid to touch your junk and make more per hour than you do all day. Are they the same?


I don't think that having drinks with proud boys is what made him racist but it's a pretty strong indication that he's racist. Intentionally hanging out with proud boys, flashing the white power sign for photos certainly tell a story. Do you need a video of him telling you he is a white supremacist? What other evidence would suffice?

He beats up girls, talks about shooting protestors and seems to be all around deplorable. Why are you so keen on defending him? Other than your apparently unending desire to be a contrarian here.




I wasn't that knowledgeable about the proud boys but they seem like run of the mill white supremacists to me.

Here's what the SPLC says:

Quote:

White nationalists and neo-Nazis themselves have cited McInnes as a gateway to the alt-right. On "The Southern AF Podcast," one former Proud Boy who went on to embrace white nationalism said he was originally drawn to the group because of its "pro-white sentiment." "All his jokes, all his content when I first started listening to him," he said of McInnes, "was all freakin' alt-right stuff and racial issues and funny, comedic ways to like try to point out that white civilization has been superior." Many Proud Boys like him have moved on to more extreme groups and ideologies.

Other hardcore members of the alt-right have argued that the "Western chauvinist" label is just a "PR cuck term" McInnes crafted to gain mainstream acceptance. "Let's not bull****," Brian Brathovd, aka Caerulus Rex, told his co-hosts on "The Daily Shoah," an antisemitic podcast popular with the alt-right. If the Proud Boys "were pressed on the issue, I guarantee you that like 90% of them would tell you something along the lines of 'Hitler was right. Gas the Jews.'"





What you just posted is a bunch of garbage. Did you major in deflection? Besides the event I mentioned, what evidence exists that he is a racist? I was asking G4R. Regardless, if you have the ability to directly answer a question, now would be a good time to demonstrate it.
I literally answered the question "does that make him racist?"

Are you capable of reading English? That's rhetorical by the any, we all know you can read whatever you need in order to make some half baked contrarian argument.
My question was: despite the photo with the Proud Boys AFTER arraignment, what evidence do you have that makes him a racist.

Your answer, when removing the other BS:

I believe the photos taken in a bar on his 18th birthday, after being arraigned, in which he posed with Proud Boys members and flashed the "OK" sign, is enough evidence to call him racist.








I think you just asked and answered the question affirmatively right there.
We all know white supremacists sometimes use the ok symbol as a white power symbol.
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This case is only going to encourage the corporate media to generate more fake narratives of racism. Even if they looked dumb during the entire trial, they have successfully stirred up division and diverted attention away from Biden's failing presidency. It's a win-win for them.
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oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

going4roses said:

Kyle is going to find plenty work at KKK events /Gun rallies
When he was freed on bail, it was his 18th birthday. He is in a picture with some Proud Boys at a bar. Is there other evidence that he is actually racist? Why would you even bring up the KKK? He is white and supports and wants to be a police officer. Does that make him racist?

Both doctors and strippers get paid to touch your junk and make more per hour than you do all day. Are they the same?


I don't think that having drinks with proud boys is what made him racist but it's a pretty strong indication that he's racist. Intentionally hanging out with proud boys, flashing the white power sign for photos certainly tell a story. Do you need a video of him telling you he is a white supremacist? What other evidence would suffice?

He beats up girls, talks about shooting protestors and seems to be all around deplorable. Why are you so keen on defending him? Other than your apparently unending desire to be a contrarian here.




I wasn't that knowledgeable about the proud boys but they seem like run of the mill white supremacists to me.

Here's what the SPLC says:

Quote:

White nationalists and neo-Nazis themselves have cited McInnes as a gateway to the alt-right. On "The Southern AF Podcast," one former Proud Boy who went on to embrace white nationalism said he was originally drawn to the group because of its "pro-white sentiment." "All his jokes, all his content when I first started listening to him," he said of McInnes, "was all freakin' alt-right stuff and racial issues and funny, comedic ways to like try to point out that white civilization has been superior." Many Proud Boys like him have moved on to more extreme groups and ideologies.

Other hardcore members of the alt-right have argued that the "Western chauvinist" label is just a "PR cuck term" McInnes crafted to gain mainstream acceptance. "Let's not bull****," Brian Brathovd, aka Caerulus Rex, told his co-hosts on "The Daily Shoah," an antisemitic podcast popular with the alt-right. If the Proud Boys "were pressed on the issue, I guarantee you that like 90% of them would tell you something along the lines of 'Hitler was right. Gas the Jews.'"





What you just posted is a bunch of garbage. Did you major in deflection? Besides the event I mentioned, what evidence exists that he is a racist? I was asking G4R. Regardless, if you have the ability to directly answer a question, now would be a good time to demonstrate it.
I literally answered the question "does that make him racist?"

Are you capable of reading English? That's rhetorical by the any, we all know you can read whatever you need in order to make some half baked contrarian argument.
My question was: despite the photo with the Proud Boys AFTER arraignment, what evidence do you have that makes him a racist.

Your answer, when removing the other BS:

I believe the photos taken in a bar on his 18th birthday, after being arraigned, in which he posed with Proud Boys members and flashed the "OK" sign, is enough evidence to call him racist.
You're right, other than flashing a white power symbol in a photograph with members of a known white supremacist organization, and being a trump 2020 and bluelivesmatter anti-woke activist, I don't have much evidence that 4doorsmore*****s is a racist.

That's enough for me. What evidence do you have that he's not a racist?
Your lack of evidence that he is a racist is enough at least make it a debatable issue. The woke looters and rioters he shot were where he and his family lived, contrary to how the media portrays it. Defending police officers is not racist. All you have are photos on his birthday, after his arraignment. Is he a proud boy? This may be the type of life-changing event that pushes him in that direction, but I have not seen any evidence that he is racist, prior to the shooting. The vilification surely doesn't help him.




So your argument is that he became a racist on his 18th birthday lol?

Defending police officers isn't generally racist but the pretend blue lives matter movement is rooted in racism and is a reaction to anti racist activism.

This kid is the type of racist who is most easily recruited into the WS movement because the warm embrace of WS gives losers like him an excuse for their failures. He's had a pretty ****ty life up until he killed people which ironically may be the very thing to lift him out of poverty and the path he was on.

But please continue your contrarian drivel about how flashing white power signs while being serenaded by white supremacists is totally ordinary things that non racists do.
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Does it matter? He's either a good person or not. Racist or not. White supremicist or not. The facts of the trial remain unchanged. He didn't deserve to be convicted or acquitted because of any of that, just like the dead didn't deserve to die because of their criminal pasts.

To me the bigger go forward issues are:
- parents, WTH, how about being present enough in your kids' lives that they don't put themselves in these situations?
- leadership that failed us by defunding police and refusing to use the national guard enabled and allowed riots to happen.
- the MSM that misrepresented the facts to support a particular narrative
bearister
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BearForce2 said:

This case is only going to encourage the corporate media to generate more fake narratives of racism. Even if they looked dumb during the entire trial, they have successfully stirred up division and diverted attention away from Biden's failing presidency. It's a win-win for them.


Two questions:

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2. Question for BI Conservatives about Rep. Gosar | Bear Insider


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bearister said:

BearForce2 said:

This case is only going to encourage the corporate media to generate more fake narratives of racism. Even if they looked dumb during the entire trial, they have successfully stirred up division and diverted attention away from Biden's failing presidency. It's a win-win for them.


Two questions:

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1. No.
2. please summarize, is this worth reading? if the media isn't blowing this up, then even they don't care.
going4roses
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Ooooo the receipts
tequila4kapp
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More go forward considerations:

- is Ziminski prosecuted for arson (if not the charges would appear to be a prosecution ploy to prevent him from testifying)?
- does Grosskreutz get prosecuted for being a felon in possession of a firearm or a concealed weapon w/out a permit?
- what kind of sentence does Rittenhouses' friend in WI who straw purchased the AR15 get (I'm assuming that's a slam dunk conviction)?
- does Rittenhouse have and pursue defamation cases against MSM and others? Side note - if yes, and if he is a WS, it all comes out in discovery.
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This was up on ESPN's front page:

Milwaukee Bucks to 'continue to fight for better' after Kyle Rittenhouse found not guilty in Kenosha protest shootings. "Fight for better"?

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32669284/milwaukee-bucks-continue-fight-better-kyle-rittenhouse-found-not-guilty-kenosha-protest-shootings

The writer makes it a point to state Rittenhouse's race and assumed the jurors were mostly white but didn't say anything about the attackers race for some apparent reason.
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dajo9 said:


Quote:

Your answer, when removing the other BS:

I believe the photos taken in a bar on his 18th birthday, after being arraigned, in which he posed with Proud Boys members and flashed the "OK" sign, is enough evidence to call him racist.
I think you just asked and answered the question affirmatively right there.
We all know white supremacists sometimes use the ok symbol as a white power symbol.
https://img.rt.com/files/news/2e/2e/c0/00/biden-gaffe-packwood-women.jpg
going4roses
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He is clearly
Anti Black
Anti BLM
Pro blue/all lives matter/proud boys

Which means he is a racist /proud white Supremacist Period. own it

He viciously murdered two people that were pro BLM …
tequila4kapp
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going4roses said:

He is clearly
Anti Black
Anti BLM
Pro blue/all lives matter/proud boys

Which means he is a racist /proud white Supremacist Period. own it

He viciously murdered two people that were pro BLM …

I don't have a dog in this fight. But to be fair, the prosecution was given access to his phone. It's reasonable to assume they found zero evidence there or on his social media to support the premise otherwise they would have tried to get some of it into evidence. It's also likely there would have been an evidentiary battle over the phone if the defense knew there was that type of material on it. The Proud Boys beer obviously isn't a good look by a long shot, but just sayin.
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going4roses said:

He is clearly
Anti Black
Anti BLM
Pro blue/all lives matter/proud boys

Which means he is a racist /proud white Supremacist Period. own it

He viciously murdered two people that were pro BLM …



He is one of those things which doesn't make him the other things. Hence my similarities between doctors and strippers.
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BearGoggles said:

sycasey said:

concordtom said:

MinotStateBeav said:

concordtom said:

So, this means that all anyone needs to do is display a fear and we get to start shooting?
12 strangers spent 4 days going over evidence and found him not guilty. You have to accept that. They found he had a right to self defense.


I accept it.
The first guy was chasing him. That was stupid.
The 2nd and 3rd guys were chasing and hitting. Stupid. Tackle the ****er and wrestle him if he has a long gun, don't allow distance for shooting. All 3 victims were stupid.

But what I don't accept is that people can roam the streets with guns.
Whatever. I suppose I have the good sense to stay away from those people.

Hoping for guilty in Georgia. That's more clear cut!!!
That's just it. The laws as written support a self-defense case here. Maybe the laws should be re-written, but that's an argument for the legislature and/or the governor. They weren't going to convict Rittenhouse with current laws.
I find some of the framing in this thread interesting. Lots of focus on the actors, not any focus on a police force and government officials who allowed anarchy and property damage. None of this happens if there are police and/or national guard in place, as there should have been. Remember, this was not the first day or protests/riots.

And the prosecutors should never have brought this case.


To speak to your points....
I am not clear on details of what protests and police were doing in Kenosha back then. It would be an interesting case study there just the same.
So would the issue that ignited all that: James Blake shooting. But let's not get into all that now.

2) they absolutely should have brought the case! It's insane that this kid was roaming with a gun. Don't even try to justify that, cause look what happened.
The prosecutor should be demoted for not getting a single guilty conviction - not even on any gun charge.


Something was very wrong with what happened.
Lots of bad actors all the way around. Nothing good happened.

James Blake
Ensuing riots
Ritter house killings
Off Scott free.
......Nothing good.
going4roses
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Our individual understandings of
what racism is
Who is a racist
What white supremacy is and how it works

are different.
And so it is.
BearForce2
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going4roses said:

He is clearly
Anti Black
Anti BLM
Pro blue/all lives matter/proud boys

Which means he is a racist /proud white Supremacist Period. own it

He viciously murdered two people that were pro BLM …


You might be onto something if you believe the media's account that Kyle Rittenhouse took to the streets to kill BLM supporters and indiscriminately fired his rifle at innocent people.
dajo9
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oski003
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BearForce2 said:

going4roses said:

He is clearly
Anti Black
Anti BLM
Pro blue/all lives matter/proud boys

Which means he is a racist /proud white Supremacist Period. own it

He viciously murdered two people that were pro BLM …


You might be onto something if you believe the media's account that Kyle Rittenhouse took to the streets to kill BLM supporters and indiscriminately fired his rifle at innocent people.


He didn't viciously murder anyone. He did, however, kill a male. He actually therefore hates men. He is a man-hater, a woman supremist.
BearForce2
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oski003 said:

BearForce2 said:

going4roses said:

He is clearly
Anti Black
Anti BLM
Pro blue/all lives matter/proud boys

Which means he is a racist /proud white Supremacist Period. own it

He viciously murdered two people that were pro BLM …


You might be onto something if you believe the media's account that Kyle Rittenhouse took to the streets to kill BLM supporters and indiscriminately fired his rifle at innocent people.


He didn't viciously murder anyone. He did, however, kill a male. He actually therefore hates men. He is a man-hater, a woman supremist.

That is a big one that the media missed, he is truly a man hater.
tequila4kapp
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going4roses said:

Our individual understandings of
what racism is
Who is a racist
What white supremacy is and it works

are different.
And so it is.
I didn't follow the situation / case closely until about 1/2 through the trial. I literally don't know what Rittenhouse believes or doesn't believe, what he is or isn't. I'm making an inference about evidence of him being a racist based on what I saw and didn't see at the trial, specifically info off his phone and social media. That's all I was saying.

I'm pretty familiar with more modern criteria used to define racism (and mostly disagree with what I think I understand of it, FWIW). The proud boy beer doesn't look good under any criteria.
dajo9
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tequila4kapp
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dajo9 said:


I can't imagine the pain they are feeling. No parent should see a child die before them, much less the way it happened. I wish them peace.
going4roses
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This is the problem/precedent being set

https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPd2h5rqg/
MinotStateBeav
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Matt Taibbi nails it

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/the-rittenhouse-verdict-is-only-shocking
 
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