It's really bizarre to see all these right wing nut jobs cheer on Russia. Ronald Reagan is rolling over in his grave.
True: “Russia pursued diplomatic options in 2021 to avoid war, while Biden rejected diplomacy, insisting that Russia had no say on NATO enlargement. And Russia pushed diplomacy in March 2022, while the Biden team again blocked a diplomatic end to the war.”https://t.co/uVLcToo0E3
— Tarik Cyril Amar (@TarikCyrilAmar) May 25, 2023
And they are offering expedited citizenship to Cuban military and their families if the Cuban fights in Ukraine for a year.dimitrig said:Cal88 said:
Ukraine Sent Poor, Untrained Men Into Bakhmut Meat Grinder
Authored by Dave DeCamp via Antiwar.com
The Journal spoke with men who were part of a small group that was sent into Bakhmut, which became known as the meat grinder, just a few days after being mobilized.
Out of 16 men in the group of draftees, 11 were either killed or captured. The Journal described them as "mostly poor men from villages in the northeastern Kharkiv region, many of them unemployed, doing odd jobs as handymen or shift work at factories in the regional capital."
Some of the men had military training years or decades ago, but none had combat experience. A few of them threatened to refuse orders when they were told they were being sent to the frontlines on February 21, citing a lack of training, but they ultimately went.
One man, Vladyslav Yudin, told the Journal that he told a sergeant major that he had never fired or even held a gun before. "Bakhmut will teach you," Yudin was told.
The men participated in brutal house-to-house combat in Bakhmut. Many of them are presumed dead, but their families are still holding out hope that they were captured by the Russians and are still alive.
The men's accounts match what Ukrainians fighting on the frontlines had been telling the media while the battle was still raging. They told stories of troops being sent in with little support, training, or ammunition.
The Washington Post spoke to a Ukrainian battalion commander in March who said he was being sent fresh recruits who didn't want to fire their guns because they were afraid of the sound.
Despite Kyiv's Western backers advising against expending resources on Bakhmut, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky tried to hold onto the city for as long as he could, but it was fully captured by the Wagner Group and Russian forces this past weekend.
Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin estimated that 50,000 Ukrainians lost their lives fighting for the city, but the number is not confirmed. Prigozhin also said that he recruited 50,000 people from prison to fight in Bakhmut and about 20% of them were killed.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-sent-poor-untrained-men-bakhmut-meat-grinde
Russia admits to sending 50,000 untrained prisoners into battle in this same article and that at least 10,000 of them died.
What a stupid article. Germany was officially two countries at that point. Ukraine is a single country under siege from an oppressor.BearHunter said:NYT seems to think Ukraine is about to lose half its territory pic.twitter.com/tbOy1cjLu3
— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) May 27, 2023
Looks like the NYT is transitioning from denial to acceptance.
tequila4kapp said:And they are offering expedited citizenship to Cuban military and their families if the Cuban fights in Ukraine for a year.dimitrig said:Cal88 said:
Ukraine Sent Poor, Untrained Men Into Bakhmut Meat Grinder
Authored by Dave DeCamp via Antiwar.com
The Journal spoke with men who were part of a small group that was sent into Bakhmut, which became known as the meat grinder, just a few days after being mobilized.
Out of 16 men in the group of draftees, 11 were either killed or captured. The Journal described them as "mostly poor men from villages in the northeastern Kharkiv region, many of them unemployed, doing odd jobs as handymen or shift work at factories in the regional capital."
Some of the men had military training years or decades ago, but none had combat experience. A few of them threatened to refuse orders when they were told they were being sent to the frontlines on February 21, citing a lack of training, but they ultimately went.
One man, Vladyslav Yudin, told the Journal that he told a sergeant major that he had never fired or even held a gun before. "Bakhmut will teach you," Yudin was told.
The men participated in brutal house-to-house combat in Bakhmut. Many of them are presumed dead, but their families are still holding out hope that they were captured by the Russians and are still alive.
The men's accounts match what Ukrainians fighting on the frontlines had been telling the media while the battle was still raging. They told stories of troops being sent in with little support, training, or ammunition.
The Washington Post spoke to a Ukrainian battalion commander in March who said he was being sent fresh recruits who didn't want to fire their guns because they were afraid of the sound.
Despite Kyiv's Western backers advising against expending resources on Bakhmut, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky tried to hold onto the city for as long as he could, but it was fully captured by the Wagner Group and Russian forces this past weekend.
Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin estimated that 50,000 Ukrainians lost their lives fighting for the city, but the number is not confirmed. Prigozhin also said that he recruited 50,000 people from prison to fight in Bakhmut and about 20% of them were killed.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-sent-poor-untrained-men-bakhmut-meat-grinde
Russia admits to sending 50,000 untrained prisoners into battle in this same article and that at least 10,000 of them died.
dimitrig said:
It's really bizarre to see all these right wing nut jobs cheer on Russia. Ronald Reagan is rolling over in his grave.
Everytime the US Government announces billions of dollars in new "aid" for Ukraine, just remember this is the man we're giving it to. pic.twitter.com/nyfrknNJOP
— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) February 27, 2023
BearHunter said:dimitrig said:
It's really bizarre to see all these right wing nut jobs cheer on Russia. Ronald Reagan is rolling over in his grave.Everytime the US Government announces billions of dollars in new "aid" for Ukraine, just remember this is the man we're giving it to. pic.twitter.com/nyfrknNJOP
— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) February 27, 2023
Would the Gipper roll over if he saw this?
dimitrig said:tequila4kapp said:
And they are offering expedited citizenship to Cuban military and their families if the Cuban fights in Ukraine for a year.
I think we found a solution to our southern border problem. Fight in Ukraine for a year and your entire family gets amnesty whether you return or not.
Cal88 said:
A few differences between these two actors, Reagan:
-was the governor or a large state before he was President
-did not dance half naked in stilleto heels and latex tights
-was not entirely created and promoted by a corrupt oligarch
-did not leverage his political position to accumulate a 9 figure fortune
BearHunter said:dimitrig said:
It's really bizarre to see all these right wing nut jobs cheer on Russia. Ronald Reagan is rolling over in his grave.Everytime the US Government announces billions of dollars in new "aid" for Ukraine, just remember this is the man we're giving it to. pic.twitter.com/nyfrknNJOP
— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) February 27, 2023
Would the Gipper roll over if he saw this?
(personal moment: queue the "I'm happy I'm not a Republican anymore" line)BearHunter said:dimitrig said:
It's really bizarre to see all these right wing nut jobs cheer on Russia. Ronald Reagan is rolling over in his grave.Everytime the US Government announces billions of dollars in new "aid" for Ukraine, just remember this is the man we're giving it to. pic.twitter.com/nyfrknNJOP
— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) February 27, 2023
Would the Gipper roll over if he saw this?
tequila4kapp said:(personal moment: queue the "I'm happy I'm not a Republican anymore" line)BearHunter said:dimitrig said:
It's really bizarre to see all these right wing nut jobs cheer on Russia. Ronald Reagan is rolling over in his grave.Everytime the US Government announces billions of dollars in new "aid" for Ukraine, just remember this is the man we're giving it to. pic.twitter.com/nyfrknNJOP
— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) February 27, 2023
Would the Gipper roll over if he saw this?
The America First crowd is really really missing the boat on this one. If you believe Putin when he says he wants to reunify the old USSR then connect the dots. We can either support Ukraine with military aid (only) now or let this go but then be legally obligated to support NATO members when they are inevitably invaded - and that obligation will likely involve American boots on the ground. So money now or money and dead Americans later…this is the easiest choice ever.
IMO that ship has sailed. This is Hitler and Chamberlain, round 2. Russia got its free pass with Crimea and took the world's turning a blind eye as a sign of weakness which emboldened them to invade Ukraine proper. NOW is the time for the World to bring the hammer…and it is being incredibly restrained in not putting boots on the ground or allowing Ukraine to attack inside Russian territory.oski003 said:tequila4kapp said:(personal moment: queue the "I'm happy I'm not a Republican anymore" line)BearHunter said:dimitrig said:
It's really bizarre to see all these right wing nut jobs cheer on Russia. Ronald Reagan is rolling over in his grave.Everytime the US Government announces billions of dollars in new "aid" for Ukraine, just remember this is the man we're giving it to. pic.twitter.com/nyfrknNJOP
— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) February 27, 2023
Would the Gipper roll over if he saw this?
The America First crowd is really really missing the boat on this one. If you believe Putin when he says he wants to reunify the old USSR then connect the dots. We can either support Ukraine with military aid (only) now or let this go but then be legally obligated to support NATO members when they are inevitably invaded - and that obligation will likely involve American boots on the ground. So money now or money and dead Americans later…this is the easiest choice ever.
Or, we help broker a peace (as opposed to preventing such) that allows Russia to keep Crimea and allow autonomy in the Donbass. If Russia violates this treaty, which you claim is inevitable, the world brings the hammer.
Goldener Bar said:BearHunter said:dimitrig said:
It's really bizarre to see all these right wing nut jobs cheer on Russia. Ronald Reagan is rolling over in his grave.Everytime the US Government announces billions of dollars in new "aid" for Ukraine, just remember this is the man we're giving it to. pic.twitter.com/nyfrknNJOP
— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) February 27, 2023
Would the Gipper roll over if he saw this?
The more modern actor was following the path that Trump also used.Cal88 said:
A few differences between these two actors, Reagan:
-was the governor or a large state before he was President
What happens in Bohemian Grove, stays in Bohemian Grove.Quote:
-did not dance half naked in stilleto heels and latex tights
Reagan was created by a group of rich and corrupt Orange County Republican oligarchs.Quote:
-was not entirely created and promoted by a corrupt oligarch
Yeah, Reagan probably had an 8 figure fortune but money was worth more back then. It's not like his B movie roles were all that lucrative. Frankly, I wouldn't be shocked if Reagan was worth 9 figures though.Quote:
-did not leverage his political position to accumulate a 9 figure fortune
There are far more ways to capitalize on your political power than just skimming money from diesel fuel deals.Cal88 said:
If Reagan had skimmed $100 million from state diesel fuel deals, you would have known about it.
Charlie Kirk decried the sexualization of children at his Pastors Summit this week.
— Rolling Stone (@RollingStone) May 27, 2023
One of the event’s corporate sponsors is run by a man convicted of "coercion and enticement" of a minor.https://t.co/abUPkTCiWl
Cal88 said:
If Reagan had skimmed $100 million from state diesel fuel deals, you would have known about it.
Quote:
There are far more ways to capitalize on your political power than just skimming money from diesel fuel deals.
Eastern Oregon Bear said:There are far more ways to capitalize on your political power than just skimming money from diesel fuel deals.Cal88 said:
If Reagan had skimmed $100 million from state diesel fuel deals, you would have known about it.
I 100% support that.dajo9 said:Pretty sure Ozzy would target that song at both sides and not just the U.S. / Ukraine side. Try again.Goldener Bar said:BearHunter said:dimitrig said:
It's really bizarre to see all these right wing nut jobs cheer on Russia. Ronald Reagan is rolling over in his grave.Everytime the US Government announces billions of dollars in new "aid" for Ukraine, just remember this is the man we're giving it to. pic.twitter.com/nyfrknNJOP
— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) February 27, 2023
Would the Gipper roll over if he saw this?
Goldener Bar said:I 100% support that.dajo9 said:Pretty sure Ozzy would target that song at both sides and not just the U.S. / Ukraine side. Try again.Goldener Bar said:BearHunter said:dimitrig said:
It's really bizarre to see all these right wing nut jobs cheer on Russia. Ronald Reagan is rolling over in his grave.Everytime the US Government announces billions of dollars in new "aid" for Ukraine, just remember this is the man we're giving it to. pic.twitter.com/nyfrknNJOP
— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) February 27, 2023
Would the Gipper roll over if he saw this?
I never claimed that only Republicans enriched themselves. I was just pointing out that Reagan was also wealthier than governor and presidential salaries would lead to.Cal88 said:
^ Not particularly fond of Charlie there,Quote:
There are far more ways to capitalize on your political power than just skimming money from diesel fuel deals.
Yes indeed, the Clintons perfected that, you don't get to cover your daughter's $3 million wedding on a POTUS salary.
Eastern Oregon Bear said:I never claimed that only Republicans enriched themselves. I was just pointing out that Reagan was also wealthier than governor and presidential salaries would lead to.Cal88 said:
^ Not particularly fond of Charlie there,Quote:
There are far more ways to capitalize on your political power than just skimming money from diesel fuel deals.
Yes indeed, the Clintons perfected that, you don't get to cover your daughter's $3 million wedding on a POTUS salary.
Eastern Oregon Bear said:I never claimed that only Republicans enriched themselves. I was just pointing out that Reagan was also wealthier than governor and presidential salaries would lead to.Cal88 said:
^ Not particularly fond of Charlie there,Quote:
There are far more ways to capitalize on your political power than just skimming money from diesel fuel deals.
Yes indeed, the Clintons perfected that, you don't get to cover your daughter's $3 million wedding on a POTUS salary.
💥Amazing poll 🤡🇨🇦
— Patrick Henningsen (@21WIRE) May 28, 2023
“How Should Canada Respond to the Ukraine Invasion: Vaccinated via Unvaccinated”… pic.twitter.com/ECmSJ3yfCZ
What the Western media admitted 9 years ago about Ukraine, it denies today. pic.twitter.com/NpG9tutiMZ
— sarah (@sahouraxo) May 23, 2023
this is a pretty amazing graphic. I doubt that many people would get top 5 nations (in order) for training engineers in 2022 without peeking. I wouldn't have. https://t.co/MZnH0dpBig
— Stephen McIntyre (@ClimateAudit) May 26, 2023