golden sloth said:
oski003 said:
golden sloth said:
Cal88 said:
golden sloth said:
Cal88 said:
In that time period, Ukraine has lost over half its population, one fifth of its territory,
and almost all of the 600,000 strong army it started the war with.
All of this could have been avoided with a Minsk III type agreement over a year ago, if it weren't for Boris Johnson, cookie monster Nuland and Co.
More blatant lies.
Putin doesnt have any interest in a Minsk agreement. They claim they do, but they dont. You keep saying they do, but they dont. Putin would not have said Ukrainians are not a people if he wanted a Minsk agreement.
All 3 non-Russian signatories of the original Minsk agreements, Merkel, Hollande and the Ukrainians came out and flat out stated that they had no intent of abiding by that peace treaty, that it was only signed in order to gain more time to rearm Ukraine. I've provided plenty of conclusive evidence to that effect.
Unfortunately the members of the Ukraine death cult somehow are not able to absorb this basic fact, or other evidence of Russia wanting a negotiated settlement in Istanbul, with facilitators like Israeli PM Bennett stating that NATO has scuttled these peace talks.
Former Israeli PM: West Blocked Russo-Ukraine Peace Deal
Your counter argument does not address the point I am making.
Vladimir Putin would not have honored a Minsk agreement. His invasion has been on going since 2014, first in Crimea, then in the donbass, now in the whole of ukraine.
When Putin says he wants a Minsk agreement he is lying. Just like when he lied about performing military exercises on the Ukrainian border and had no intention of invading Ukraine.
How could your statement possibly be true if Russia annexed Crimea prior to the Minsk agreement?
The russian invasion of Ukraine started in 2014 with the illegal annexation of crimea. Russia then signed the Minsk accords. But Russia had no intention of honoring the Minsk accords, as they were continuing to finance and support separatists in the donbass with the intention of annexing the donbass. Putin lied when he signed the Minsk accords, just like when he lied about not having his special military operation.
Illegal according to who?
Crimea is a Russian province, inhabited by Russians, a province that was latched onto Ukraine by Khrushchev for arbitrary Soviet internal reasons in 1954,
its population is over 3/4 ethnic Russian. Crimeans like other Russian parts of Ukraine voted overwhelmingly for Yanukovich, part of the majority of Ukrainians who had elected him as president of Ukraine. That democratically-elected president was then overthrown by the Maidan Coup, a coup planned and supported by NATO featuring armed neo-nazi thugs who shot up the crowd and muscled their way into government, setting up a nationalist west Ukrainian government that considered their large Russian minority as second class citizens.
Crimeans wanted nothing to do with the Maidan Coup regime,
they have voted overwhelmingly to separate from Ukraine and join Russia. 19,000 of the 21,000 Ukrainian army troops stationed there at the time switched sides, they being almost all locals who refused to take orders from Kiev to suppress their own kin. That's why the Crimean transfer to Russia was bloodless.
Since then, Crimea has thrived economically, with multi-billion infrastructure investment from the Russian government - roads, ports, airport, tourism and agriculture infrastructure. Crimea's airport is the busiest in Russia after the main airports of Moscow and St Petersburg. Meanwhile, Ukraine has been a crumbling oligarch-infested economy since the 90s, the poorest, most corrupt country per capita in Europe, while Russia had cleaned up its economy, becoming 3 times richer per capita than Ukraine (before the start of the war).
Ukraine is a dumpster fire with which Crimeans want nothing to do. Not just because of its corruption and poverty, but also because
Kiev wants to de-Russify Crimeans, suppressing their native language and cultural heritage. Kiev regime leaders (and even some NATO pundits) are on record stating that they will ethnically cleanse Crimea of its Russians.
Head of Ukrainian military intelligence Budanov has stated that he would "physically eradicate" 3 million Crimeans of Russian descent:
This is the true nature of the hardcore Ukrainian nationalism that western MSM hides from its public.That is but one of the major disconnects that the western public has about Crimea. The other disconnect about Crimea is the thought that Ukraine could actually reconquer that province by force, Russia is never going to let that happen. In the highly unlikely event that NATO manages to break the land bridge and start moving on Crimea, the Russians will throw their full military might into its defense.
