The Official Russian Invasion of Ukraine Thread

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movielover
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Cut off the $$$. Europe finds an additional way to antagonize Russia. And what men are left to man manufacturing?

sycasey
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tequila4kapp said:

movielover said:

More two-tiered ststem.


This is a real life manifestation of not integrating people's language and culture. Until immigrants are connected to a country they cannot be counted on to help defend its interests.
Unironically, the US does a way better job of this than anywhere in Europe.
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sycasey said:

tequila4kapp said:

movielover said:

More two-tiered ststem.


This is a real life manifestation of not integrating people's language and culture. Until immigrants are connected to a country they cannot be counted on to help defend its interests.
Unironically, the US does a way better job of this than anywhere in Europe.
A portion of my son's recent military basic training graduation was especially set up to recognize @40 people who earned their citizenship by passing Basic Training.
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tequila4kapp said:

sycasey said:

tequila4kapp said:

movielover said:

More two-tiered ststem.


This is a real life manifestation of not integrating people's language and culture. Until immigrants are connected to a country they cannot be counted on to help defend its interests.
Unironically, the US does a way better job of this than anywhere in Europe.
A portion of my son's recent military basic training graduation was especially set up to recognize @40 people who earned their citizenship by passing Basic Training.
I seem to recall reading a news story in the last week about soldiers who had earned citizenship this way being deported or arrested by ICE.
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Hey neocons, was this part of the plan?

movielover
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Trump's emissary spoke w Putin today for four hours.

Meanwhile...

bearister
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Putin has lost 100K+ troops. No one is stopping him from getting everything he wants in any alleged "deal," but Trump will spin it like the results of his physical exam.

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Bumbling Biden said a little incursion might be OK... his handlers tried to walk it back the next day.

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Russian Ural Crude at nearly a 2 year low.
That's gotta hurt.

"Over the last 20 years, such low levels of oil prices have typically been associated with recessions and/or significant supply-side shocks, neither of which are our base case," Sara Grut, executive director of global credit strategy at Goldman Sachs, said in a note on Tuesday.




Russian oil prices are sliding. That's not enough to stop Putin's war machine yet.
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DiabloWags said:

Russian Ural Crude at nearly a 2 year low.
That's gotta hurt.

"Over the last 20 years, such low levels of oil prices have typically been associated with recessions and/or significant supply-side shocks, neither of which are our base case," Sara Grut, executive director of global credit strategy at Goldman Sachs, said in a note on Tuesday.




Russian oil prices are sliding. That's not enough to stop Putin's war machine yet.



Sorry bro, but Russian Ural Crude is $61.50 per barrel. You need better propaganda.
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Wags needs to brush up on Russian oil production, for one thing, Ural is one of several oil types/grades produced by Russia, and it is the cheapest grade as it is the highest by far in sulfur. 87% of Russian production is Siberian light, low sulfur grade whose price is significantly higher than the Ural grade.

When the Ruble was down earlier at the beginning of the war, Wags would go out of his way to inform me of that development via PM. I haven't heard from him in a while, perhaps the fact that the Ruble is up 38% over the USD in 2025 (which kind of puts things in perspective when it comes to Russia's trade balance and budget situation) had something to do with the drop in Wags' penpal activities...

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"We're not going to continue with this endeavour for weeks and months on end. So we need to determine very quickly now, and I'm talking about a matter of days, whether or not this is doable in the next few weeks. If it's not possible, if we're so far apart that this is not going to happen, then I think the president is probably at a point where he's going to say, 'well, we're done'."
Marco Rubio, Paris, 4/18/25, after meeting with European and Ukrainian leaders.
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bearister said:




"We're not going to continue with this endeavour for weeks and months on end. So we need to determine very quickly now, and I'm talking about a matter of days, whether or not this is doable in the next few weeks. If it's not possible, if we're so far apart that this is not going to happen, then I think the president is probably at a point where he's going to say, 'well, we're done'."
Marco Rubio, Paris, 4/18/25, after meeting with European and Ukrainian leaders.



Europe wants the war and leadership, let them have it.

- cut off all funding
- cut off all funding to proxy 3rd parties
- cut off all shipment of military weapons and ammunitions
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Do you really think Putin lost 100K+ Russian soldiers to have a dimwitted schmuck like Trump keep him from getting 100% of what he wants?

This whole thing going on in Paris is Let's Play Dress Up Diplomats Apprentice.

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bearister said:

Do you really think Putin lost 100K+ Russian soldiers to have a dim witted schmuck like Trump keep him from getting 100% of what he wants?

This whole thing going on in Paris is Let's Play Dress Up Diplomats Apprentice.




He probably has lost 200K. But Ukraine has lost 1.2 Million, or more, 200K amputees, Millions left and most won't return, and their country is wrecked. Meanwhile, NATO, the EU, and USA militaries were spanked, and all are critically depleted with no solution forthcoming. Yes, the NATO, EU, Blinken, Sullivan, Austin and Autopen were proven beyond dimwitted and schmuck. This is another historic loss.
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Bearister is right, Russian KIAs are just over 100k. US, UK and French KIAs are all in the hundreds at this point, with the Canadians and Germans not far behind.




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To the last Ukrainian, when men are starting to get tapped out...


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Putin 'immediately breaks Easter truce' launching hundreds of savage attacks in Ukraine | World | News | Express.co.uk


https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2044057/putin-immediately-breaks-easter-truce
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bearister said:

Putin 'immediately breaks Easter truce' launching hundreds of savage attacks in Ukraine | World | News | Express.co.uk


https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2044057/putin-immediately-breaks-easter-truce


Russia said that Ukraine violated the ceasefire and Ukrainian units had shot at Russian positions 444 times during the night, carried out over 900 drone attacks and used 48 plane-type UAVs.

So, are both leaders liars or don't have control over their armies? Or is only Putin the problem? Or is only Zelensky the problem?
sycasey
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oski003 said:

bearister said:

Putin 'immediately breaks Easter truce' launching hundreds of savage attacks in Ukraine | World | News | Express.co.uk


https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2044057/putin-immediately-breaks-easter-truce


Russia said that Ukraine violated the ceasefire and Ukrainian units had shot at Russian positions 444 times during the night, carried out over 900 drone attacks and used 48 plane-type UAVs.

So, are both leaders liars or don't have control over their armies? Or is only Putin the problem? Or is only Zelensky the problem?

Mostly Putin is the problem, because he invaded another country.
oski003
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sycasey said:

oski003 said:

bearister said:

Putin 'immediately breaks Easter truce' launching hundreds of savage attacks in Ukraine | World | News | Express.co.uk


https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2044057/putin-immediately-breaks-easter-truce


Russia said that Ukraine violated the ceasefire and Ukrainian units had shot at Russian positions 444 times during the night, carried out over 900 drone attacks and used 48 plane-type UAVs.

So, are both leaders liars or don't have control over their armies? Or is only Putin the problem? Or is only Zelensky the problem?

Mostly Putin is the problem, because he invaded another country.


That's irrelevant to who is responsible for violating the cease fire. Reducing everything to blaming Russia for starting the war shouldn't absolve Ukraine from making efforts for peace. If both countries simply point the finger at each other, the war will continue for a long time.
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The war is going to continue a long time because there is no means for reconciliation. " Blame" doesn't matter
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"Mostly Putin is the problem, because he invaded another country."

Yeah, apparently the Polish were real @$$h@les in September, 1939, when Germany invaded, but than they got nicer and less problematical shortly thereafter.
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bearister said:

"Mostly Putin is the problem, because he invaded another country."

Yeah, apparently the Polish were real @$$h@les in September, 1939, when Germany invaded, but than they got nicer and less problematical shortly thereafter.


Too bad we violated Minski I, Minsk II, and spiked the Istanbul Peace Ccords.

Silly me, I didn't know our dozen secret C-A bases on the Russian border were for growing medicinal pot.
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Interestingly, Stanford's forum has their own Ukraine-Russia war thread. It seems more civil, less TDS, with less trolling.

Outside Topic Way OT: Ukraine
Cal88
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Last I checked that board, which was about a year or two ago, that board had zero dissent from the official NATO line.
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bear2034 said:

Interestingly, Stanford's forum has their own Ukraine-Russia war thread. It seems more civil, less TDS, with less trolling.

Outside Topic Way OT: Ukraine

It appears to be civil because it is actually moderated to avoid off-topic digressions.
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Cal88 said:

Last I checked that board, which was about a year or two ago, that board had zero dissent from the official NATO line.
These Furds can't all be that dumb can they?
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Is this what he really thinks, or is he worried about the Azov Nazis?

Cut funding?

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movielover
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Bc of Azov, or not really committed to a peace plan?

Have we cut off all funding?
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Azov, but also the UK, Zelensky's security is overseen by SAS and British PMCs.

The British have wanted to control Crimea since the 1800s.

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