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Update - the ranch in question is being sold to an American buyer, according to the seller:



This being said, Zelensky is known to have a real estate portfolio with expensive properties in Italy, UK, US, France, Cyprus and UAE among other places, so a report of a purchase like that ranch above would not be extraordinary.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/oct/03/revealed-anti-oligarch-ukrainian-president-offshore-connections-volodymyr-zelenskiy

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Cal88 said:

Update - the ranch in question is being sold to an American buyer, according to the seller:



This being said, Zelensky is known to have a real estate portfolio with expensive properties in Italy, UK, US, France, Cyprus and UAE among other places, so a report of a purchase like that ranch above would not be extraordinary.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/oct/03/revealed-anti-oligarch-ukrainian-president-offshore-connections-volodymyr-zelenskiy



Pretty sure he has property in Florida.
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MinotStateBeav said:

Cal88 said:

Update - the ranch in question is being sold to an American buyer, according to the seller:



This being said, Zelensky is known to have a real estate portfolio with expensive properties in Italy, UK, US, France, Cyprus and UAE among other places, so a report of a purchase like that ranch above would not be extraordinary.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/oct/03/revealed-anti-oligarch-ukrainian-president-offshore-connections-volodymyr-zelenskiy



Pretty sure he has property in Florida.
thanks for adding to the discussion and confirming the original bogus post and subsequent reposting. Fact checking and truth telling are important to the integrity of this board!
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Candid moment from Zelensjy from 2022:



Meanwhile, thousands of Ukrainian troops are surrounded in Pokrovsk, the biggest flashpoint on the front this year.

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Ukrainian army drone operator executes kneeling old Donbas woman who was fleeing to the Russian side (warning, a bit graphic).



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New York Times: Russia Close to Its Biggest Capture of a Ukrainian City Since 2023

"The Kremlin is focusing its fire on Pokrovsk, a gateway to the Donetsk region, which Russia's president, Vladimir V. Putin, has long coveted."
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cal83dls79 said:

cal83dls79 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

cal83dls79 said:

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cal83dls79 said:

The triumvirate here reposting fake posts about ranches in Wyoming.

Thank you for adding to this forum.

thank you for keeping land in Wyoming safe from Zelenskyy and posting spoofs you goof. Y'all clowns fell for it. How much other nonsense can you guys repost? Someone has to fact check your nonsense, the mods aren't obviously. Y'all got super excited here about Zelenskyy and the land thing only to find out you got played! Bwaaaaaaaaaaa!

Funny, all I did was comment on the story posted that it should not happen. How did I fall for a spoof? I'm guessing you won't give an answer to that.



the answer is simple, because you didn't think it right that Z should own land in Wyoming. If not my sincerest apologies. Not sure how I jumped to that conclusion! So down to two numbnuts that got played. Movie actually showed some sack and retracted his propaganda. Be more like him.

We should all try and be more like "movie"... more awesome!
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movielover said:



yeah this war is coming to an end soon. their soldiers will start turning on leadership.
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Notice the goons enforcing military rule in Ukraine invariably look like elite military troops - big young dudes, often seen dragging midle-aged men for forced conscription. The Kyiv regime keeps over 100,000 of these nationalist militias in the main cities to clamp down on the populace. The dam is going to burst once they run short on conscripts and a lot of these troops have to be sent to the front.
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MinotStateBeav said:

movielover said:



yeah this war is coming to an end soon. their soldiers will start turning on leadership.


How long can this go on?? Unbelievable.

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"Estimates for the number of Russian soldiers killed and wounded in Ukraine vary widely, but multiple recent intelligence assessments and independent analyses place the total number of Russian casualties (killed and wounded) at over one million since the full-scale invasion began in February 2022."
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I wonder how Russian parents feel about their sons killed or maimed physically or psychologically in the interests of elective foreign adventurism?


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bearister said:

"Estimates for the number of Russian soldiers killed and wounded in Ukraine vary widely, but multiple recent intelligence assessments and independent analyses place the total number of Russian casualties (killed and wounded) at over one million since the full-scale invasion began in February 2022."
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I wonder how Russian parents feel about their sons killed or maimed physically or psychologically in the interests of elective foreign adventurism?





No Russian relatives ever died trying to stop their son, brother from joining their army.

This war for Russia is not "elective". NATO's ultimate goal is to dismantle Russia.






As to the Russian casualties numbers, AI poorly seeded returns poor results - garbage in, garbage out.

Well over 95% of the articles on Russian casualties are straight up lies, you should know by now that the only reliable source is the BBC's Mediazona,
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British WWII veteran says the sacrifice of his fellow soldiers wasn't worth it in view of all the freedoms lost since. Female host rushes to do damage control.

Food for thought for the "defending democracy abroad" crowd from someone who did more than just post online about it.

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Aunburdened said:

British WWII veteran says the sacrifice of his fellow soldiers wasn't worth it in view of all the freedoms lost since. Female host rushes to do damage control.

Food for thought for the "defending democracy abroad" crowd from someone who did more than just post online about it.



I don't understand the point here. It wasn't worth it to fight the Nazis?
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sycasey said:

Aunburdened said:

British WWII veteran says the sacrifice of his fellow soldiers wasn't worth it in view of all the freedoms lost since. Female host rushes to do damage control.

Food for thought for the "defending democracy abroad" crowd from someone who did more than just post online about it.



I don't understand the point here. It wasn't worth it to fight the Nazis?


Saying "all the wars since 1941" is a bit of a stretch too. After WWII the only time soldiers fought to protect my freedom was about 3 months in Afghanistan (after which Bush started diverting resources to Iraq leaving me less safe). When people talk about soldiers serving to defend me, inside I'm always asking who? When?
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Cal88 said:



Odessa will be Russian territory soon enough.
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Cal88 said:



Much of that cash destined for the strip clubs in Kyiv...
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sycasey said:

Aunburdened said:

British WWII veteran says the sacrifice of his fellow soldiers wasn't worth it in view of all the freedoms lost since. Female host rushes to do damage control.

Food for thought for the "defending democracy abroad" crowd from someone who did more than just post online about it.



I don't understand the point here. It wasn't worth it to fight the Nazis?

It certainly was worth it to fight the Nazis.

The problem is that after WW2, we aligned ourselves with the Nazis & fascists to exert our dominion ("Full-Spectrum Dominance") over the world, and crush any challengers, with military force if necessary.

So now we're blowing up fishing boats off the coast of Venezuela...

These regime-change wars have NOTHING to do with anyone's freedom, or democracy. They have everything to do with resources, hegemony, and maintaining the American Empire.
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Klitschko and cocaine?
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cbbass1 said:

sycasey said:

Aunburdened said:

British WWII veteran says the sacrifice of his fellow soldiers wasn't worth it in view of all the freedoms lost since. Female host rushes to do damage control.

Food for thought for the "defending democracy abroad" crowd from someone who did more than just post online about it.



I don't understand the point here. It wasn't worth it to fight the Nazis?

It certainly was worth it to fight the Nazis.

The problem is that after WW2, we aligned ourselves with the Nazis & fascists to exert our dominion ("Full-Spectrum Dominance") over the world, and crush any challengers, with military force if necessary.

So now we're blowing up fishing boats off the coast of Venezuela...

These regime-change wars have NOTHING to do with anyone's freedom, or democracy. They have everything to do with resources, hegemony, and maintaining the American Empire.

In many cases, true, though in Ukraine not so much as it is Russia trying to exert dominion there.
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class- we aligned w Bazis after WWII - where exactly?

sycasey - dominion exerted by who?

NATO expanded eastward into 10-12 countries.

NATO built up Ukraine.

Western EU leaders have openly admitted Minsk I and II were insincere ploys, delays, while we fortified Ukraine.

Resource-starved EU leaders openly talk about breaking up Russia. American Ag wants Ukraine's rich, cheap soil.

The CIA had a dozen bases on Russia's border.

We (Victoria Nuland specifically) helped overthrow a Ukranian leader.

We helped back a civil war in Ukraine.
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movielover said:


sycasey - dominion exerted by who?

By Russia, who invaded Ukraine and is still currently waging a war to forcibly take territory from them.
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See above factual rebuke.
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movielover said:

See above factual rebuke.

None of that rebukes what I said. Russia invaded and is trying to take Ukraine's land, which is orders of magnitude larger than whatever the US/NATO did.
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FAFO. NATO is decimated, the EU a paper tiger, and combined w the Palestine war, America's stockpiles are threadbare and we have no Military ammunition/ missile production 'surge capacity'.
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NBC News: Ukraine rocked by $100m corruption scandal embroiling top Zelenskyy ally
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movielover said:

FAFO. NATO is decimated, the EU a paper tiger, and combined w the Palestine war, America's stockpiles are threadbare and we have no Military ammunition/ missile production 'surge capacity'.

Your support for Putin's war is noted.
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Quote:

Quote:

FAFO. NATO is decimated, the EU a paper tiger, and combined w the Palestine war, America's stockpiles are threadbare and we have no Military ammunition/ missile production 'surge capacity'.

Your support for Putin's war is noted.



In case you were curious how long I'll be killing you on this board for being duped into thinking we were defending democracy in Ukraine, here's the timeline.

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Aunburdened said:

Quote:

Quote:

FAFO. NATO is decimated, the EU a paper tiger, and combined w the Palestine war, America's stockpiles are threadbare and we have no Military ammunition/ missile production 'surge capacity'.

Your support for Putin's war is noted.



In case you were curious how long I'll be killing you on this board for being duped into thinking we were defending democracy in Ukraine, here's the timeline.

Saying that Russia is responsible for starting the war is not the same as saying Ukraine is perfect, okay? Thanks.
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How Putin's troops are turning on one another: DAVID PATRIKARAKOS

https://mol.im/a/15285407
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bearister said:

How Putin's troops are turning on one another: DAVID PATRIKARAKOS

https://mol.im/a/15285407



https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-mail/
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You have to counter the Russian propaganda here with a little NATO/Ukrainian propaganda just to keep the BI Putinistas alert and on their toes.

*MAGA loves the Daily Mail. It is more of a propaganda arm of the Trump Administration than Fox News is.
*If the anti vaxxers stuck to your source reliability standards, they literally would have nothing to post in their anti vax thread. I research every "study" they post. All bullsh@it. ….just like their "bundle of beliefs" when they branch out to discuss other issues. I quit posting in that thread because no one reads it but their peanut gallery so no harm of any consequence flows from their misinformation toxic dung heap.
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