The Official Russian Invasion of Ukraine Thread

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In reply to Cal88 • 8:54a, 2/26/26
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sycasey said:
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Boris Johnson sucks, but I'm pretty sure the guy who sent an invading army into Ukraine is the "real villain" of the war.


This will the most braindead post you will have made in the 4 years and 375 pages of this thread.

Without Boris and his wh0remonging for the British MIC, 1.5 million Ukrainian soldiers would still be alive today, and Ukraine would have been the largest country in Europe and largely intact.

But no, Putin is a bad hombre.

With it Putin invading Ukraine there is no war. Boris Johnson didn't force him to do that.

I say it's braindead to call anyone other than Putin the biggest villain here.


Boris Johnson forced Putin to keep fighting by directly intervening to scrap the permanent peace agreement between the Zelensky and Russian governments in Istanbul that addressed all Russian concerns and would have settled the war only 2 months in. And now we find out he was paid by the British MIC to scuttle the Istanbul agreement, and all you have to say here is, Putin bad hombre??

Why did there even need to be a peace agreement? Did someone start a war?


Yes, the war was started in 2014.

When Russia took Crimea? Agreed.
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In reply to sycasey • 9:36a, 2/26/26
Not very Wilsonian of you, you know Crimeans are Russians.


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In reply to Cal88 • 9:51a, 2/26/26
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Not very Wilsonian of you, you know Crimeans are Russians.

I guess they are now, not that anyone got a chance to debate the idea.
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In reply to sycasey • 11:16a, 2/26/26
They did get a chance to vote.
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11:36a, 2/26/26


"George Kennan warned NATO expansion would provoke Russia and spark a new war, and he was completely right.

Expanding into former Soviet territories wasn't just unnecessary; it was reckless, guaranteed to anger Moscow and push Russian policy in dangerous directions. History has proven Kennan's prediction dead-on.

Ignoring his warning wasn't a mistake,it was a disaster we're still living with."
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In reply to Cal88 • 11:45a, 2/26/26
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They did get a chance to vote.

Oh yeah? Before the Russian occupation?
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In reply to sycasey • 12:19p, 2/26/26
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Cal88 said:
They did get a chance to vote.

Oh yeah? Before the Russian occupation?


Before they got occupied by the post-Maidan Kyiv regime, which banned their native language.

Who know who didn't get to vote? The hundreds of thousands of middle-aged men in Ukraine who were captured against their will, forcibly conscripted and sent to their death.



Thank you Boris Johnson.
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In reply to Cal88 • 1:06p, 2/26/26
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sycasey said:
Cal88 said:
They did get a chance to vote.

Oh yeah? Before the Russian occupation?


Before they got occupied by the post-Maidan Kyiv regime, which banned their native language.

So no, they didn't get to vote before Russia took over. Thanks!
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In reply to sycasey • 2:02p, 2/26/26
sycasey said:
Cal88 said:
sycasey said:
Cal88 said:
They did get a chance to vote.

Oh yeah? Before the Russian occupation?


Before they got occupied by the post-Maidan Kyiv regime, which banned their native language.

So no, they didn't get to vote before Russia took over. Thanks!


I am not sure if you genuinely believe that the Russian population in Crimea has been coerced into joining Russia, and that those interviews above from CNN nd NBC are staged, and the polls from western pollsters showing overwhelming approval for joining Russia were fake, and the referendum vote rigged, or if you're just arguing in bad faith.
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In reply to Cal88 • 2:22p, 2/26/26
Cal88 said:
sycasey said:
Cal88 said:
sycasey said:
Cal88 said:
They did get a chance to vote.

Oh yeah? Before the Russian occupation?


Before they got occupied by the post-Maidan Kyiv regime, which banned their native language.

So no, they didn't get to vote before Russia took over. Thanks!


I am not sure if you genuinely believe that the Russian population in Crimea has been coerced into joining Russia, and that those interviews above from CNN nd NBC are staged, and the polls from western pollsters showing overwhelming approval for joining Russia were fake, and the referendum vote rigged, or if you're just arguing in bad faith.

I'm saying that it's not fair to take the land and THEN hold the vote at gunpoint. That was the wrong order to do things. And no, I don't trust a vote or a poll that is held while under occupation.
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In reply to Aunburdened • 3:40p, 2/26/26
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Leftist Putin fans are the weirdest people.
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9:42p, 2/26/26
Leadership



Because Putin doesn't own a pee tape of him over hookers.
Correction: under
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In reply to concordtom • 9:58p, 2/26/26
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Leadership



Because Putin doesn't own a pee tape of him over hookers.
Correction: under

Imagine being so gullible to believe that any of this is true
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In reply to Aunburdened • 6:01a, 2/27/26
Aunburdened said:
concordtom said:
Leadership



Because Putin doesn't own a pee tape of him over hookers.
Correction: under

Imagine being so gullible to believe that any of this is true


Imagine not being able to read basic news to discover that a meeting did take place:

https://www.pm.gc.ca/en/news/readouts/2026/02/24/prime-minister-carney-participates-virtual-meeting-support-ukraine

Imagine that assertions of Russia failing in all these ways is posturing, something everyone does. Yes, such claims are up for discussion/debate.

Imagine the amount of fun Trump-haters have had with the image of Trump in a pee tape situation as described in the Steele report. Incredible mileage!





You think it's ridiculous.
But I don't, because I was in Moscow in Jan 1990. I stayed at the Hotel Cosmos. And I witnessed peculiar compromat setup situations.
I have told those stories here. It is incredibly easy to imagine that a pee pee tape exists. Doesn't have to involve Trump being peed on.

Compromat. Blackmail.
It explains so much!

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Evidence regarding video blackmail by Jeffrey Epstein exists primarily in the form of testimony, emails, and allegations rather than publicly released, verified tapes. While it is heavily documented that Epstein maintained surveillance in his homes and aimed to compromise powerful individuals, a 2019 FBI memo concluded there was no definitive evidence of a blackmail ring in his residences.
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Key Findings and Allegations (2025-2026):
Hidden Cameras: Emails have shown that Epstein instructed aides to install hidden cameras, with one aide replying, "I'm installing them into Kleenex boxes now".
"Greatest Blackmailer" Claims: Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick (a former neighbor) claimed in October 2025 that Epstein was the "greatest blackmailer ever" and likely used videos to secure his lenient 2008 plea deal, though Lutnick provided no direct evidence for this, stating he had "no knowledge" of the content.
Documented Surveillance: Reports indicate that Epstein possessed, or intended to possess, a vast digital archive, with some accounts suggesting he edited and cataloged videos for blackmail purposes.
Unverified Claims: A 2019 report noted that a hacker claimed to possess terabytes of video surveillance from Epstein's properties. However, the FBI reported in 2019 that they found no evidence of blackmail videos in his possession.
Witness/Victim Testimony: Accuser Sarah Ransome alleged in 2016 that Epstein recorded sexual acts involving high-profile individuals.
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The "Client List" and Missing Evidence
While the "Epstein files" have been released, they have not produced a definitive, public archive of blackmail videos. A July 2025 FBI/DOJ memo stated there was no credible information that Epstein trafficked young women to other individuals, despite his reputation for doing so. Some reports suggest that while the, "compromat" (compromising material) was real, it may have been destroyed or hidden.
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In reply to concordtom • 6:15a, 2/27/26
we all think it's ridiculous

imagine thinking the Steele report is a factual document

imagine thinking about Trump getting peed on every day of your life
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In reply to brobear • 6:30a, 2/27/26
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imagine thinking the Steele report is a factual document

Have you ever read the Steele Dossier?

Here, you should do so. Then we can discuss which aspects of it may be true and untrue.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steele_dossier

https://regmedia.co.uk/2018/02/02/steele-dossier-trump.pdf

Page 2, bullet point 3: "in front of him"
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In reply to concordtom • 6:47a, 2/27/26
concordtom said:
brobear said:

imagine thinking the Steele report is a factual document

Have you ever read the Steele Dossier?

Here, you should do so. Then we can discuss which aspects of it may be true and untrue.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steele_dossier

https://regmedia.co.uk/2018/02/02/steele-dossier-trump.pdf

Page 2, bullet point 3: "in front of him"


Even Steele would never have said it was 100% true. It was an investigative document and some of it has proven true.
Censorship has always been a tool of the fascist
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In reply to concordtom • 6:50a, 2/27/26
It was published without permission in 2017 as an unfinished 35-page compilation of "unverified, and potentially unverifiable"[a] memos that were considered by Steele to be "raw intelligence (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raw_intelligence) not established facts, but a starting point for further investigation".
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In reply to dajo9 • 6:50a, 2/27/26
the pee tape not being one of those true things
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In reply to brobear • 6:53a, 2/27/26
brobear said:
the pee tape not being one of those true things

Under what authority of information can you make this claim?
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In reply to brobear • 6:54a, 2/27/26
brobear said:
It was published without permission in 2017 as an unfinished 35-page compilation of "unverified, and potentially unverifiable"[a] memos that were considered by Steele to be "raw intelligence (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raw_intelligence) not established facts, but a starting point for further investigation".

Yes. A starting point for conversation!
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In reply to brobear • 6:56a, 2/27/26
Hey BroBear

Might you be a (allegedly) mixed race female middle school teacher who recently was suspended?
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In reply to concordtom • 7:00a, 2/27/26
under the authority that it's never been proven. that's how facts work

sure a starting point for conversation about how idiotic the Steele dossier is

and no i'm a grumpy 47 year old white bro
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In reply to brobear • 7:11a, 2/27/26
What's ridiculous about it?
I think it is quite plausible.
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In reply to concordtom • 7:36a, 2/27/26
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Hey BroBear

Might you be a (allegedly) mixed race female middle school teacher who recently was suspended?

If you believe that narrative
Censorship has always been a tool of the fascist
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6:13p, 2/27/26
This pretty much establishes the number of Ukrainian KIAs well above 1 million.



The level of gaslighting across the MSM and official sources WRT the most basic fact about this war, the sheer scale of the carnage in Ukraine, truly is astounding:


AI summary

Based on official statements and independent tracking as of February 2026:
  • Official Ukrainian Statement (Feb 2026): President Volodymyr Zelenskyy recently stated that 55,000 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed in combat since the full-scale invasion began.
  • Previous Official Figures: In December 2024, Zelenskyy stated that 43,000 troops had been killed.
  • Independent/Open-Source Tracking: The UALosses project, which tracks deaths by name, had documented over 86,000 deaths (including non-combat losses) as of January 7, 2026.
  • Western Intelligence/Analyst Estimates: Some estimates, such as those from the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) in June 2025, suggest the total number of Ukrainian troops killed or wounded could be significantly higher, with some reports suggesting up to 100,000+ killed.
You're being fed lies about this war. Zelensky is a lying grifter who is stealing billions from US and Euro taxpayers while sending Ukrainian men to their slaughter by the million, knowing that this war is futile. He could have stopped the war years ago, he can stop it today, but he won't stop the grift.
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In reply to Cal88 • 6:32p, 2/27/26
you're funny. nothing by that source is worth the ink it isn't written on..


https://x.com/Karmabash?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E2027494370707198001%7Ctwgr%5E3bdaec489ea03e370ce14f906cb43b2c6412c708%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbearinsider.com%2Fforums%2F6%2Ftopics%2F107414%2F379
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In reply to smh • 7:42p, 2/27/26
smh said:
you're funny. nothing by that source is worth the ink it isn't written on..


https://x.com/Karmabash?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E2027494370707198001%7Ctwgr%5E3bdaec489ea03e370ce14f906cb43b2c6412c708%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbearinsider.com%2Fforums%2F6%2Ftopics%2F107414%2F379

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In reply to concordtom • 12:14p, 2/28/26
concordtom said:
Aunburdened said:
concordtom said:
Leadership



Because Putin doesn't own a pee tape of him over hookers.
Correction: under

Imagine being so gullible to believe that any of this is true


Imagine not being able to read basic news to discover that a meeting did take place:

https://www.pm.gc.ca/en/news/readouts/2026/02/24/prime-minister-carney-participates-virtual-meeting-support-ukraine

Here's a special post for the dumbest person in this forum:
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In reply to Cal88 • 5:17p, 2/28/26
It's a tough thing to know when to stand up to aggression and when to just wait until he dies from old age. Or a bot worm infection.

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In reply to concordtom • 7:01p, 2/28/26
concordtom said:
It's a tough thing to know when to stand up to aggression and when to just wait until he dies from old age. Or a bot worm infection.



Put yourself in the shoes of the middle aged Ukrainian father who is kidnapped by a bunch of militia goons and sent to his death after one week of training.

That is the reality of the Ukraine war, not some reheated WW2 slop.




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In reply to Cal88 • 12:37a, 3/1/26
Distressing claims/videos.
I don't know the complicated issues and details here.

I heard that the same was happening on the Russian side.

And anyways, on the US side, you think that because you show some War is Hell videos that we should just lay down and let Putin take of that country?
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In reply to concordtom • 5:08a, 3/1/26
concordtom said:
Distressing claims/videos.
I don't know the complicated issues and details here.


I've been posting videos of forced conscriptions in Ukraine for 3 years now, one even with a distressed mother literally dying in the process of trying to save her son.

It's not a complicated issue, and the big picture is confirmed above by the leading military man in Ukraine today. The great majority of Ukrainian soldiers don't want to be sent to a war where they are being slaughtered at a rate of 10 to 1.


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I heard that the same was happening on the Russian side.

Wrong, the Russian side is made up of well-paid, well-trained and well-equipped volunteers


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And anyways, on the US side, you think that because you show some War is Hell videos that we should just lay down and let Putin take of that country?

Russia is going to impose its will on Ukraine regardless. The question is how many more hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian soldiers are going to be killed in the process.

This could have been solved 1 million Ukrainian lives ago, with Ukraine remaining largely intact and losing only Crimea, if it wasn't for Boris Johnson and co pushing Ukraine into a war it cannot win in order to deplete Russia and benefit his MIC backers.
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In reply to Cal88 • 6:39a, 3/1/26
I recall your stance but i have not participated much in this thread.

Putin has Crimea, free and clear. The problem was when he amassed his troops all around Ukraine and invaded. He lobbed missiles into Kiev. Why are you suggesting it could have ended with just Crimea?
I think you've believed this line - maybe it's your line - that it's Ukraine's fault for not promising to never join NATO.

I disagree with such logic. A country ought be free and independent. And another country ought not invade.

Putin ought not invade Crimea or the Dunbass and Trump ought not capture Maduro or kill Iran's leader.

At my university, AU, under the school of international affairs, you could be focus on
international economics (me)
international development (my wife)
international law
international peace and conflict resolution

It's this last one which I would have taken classes in had I more time.
I don't believe in militarism. There has to be a better way. Trump is unsophisticated, just like Putin. Let's not fail to remember that we live in a nuclear era. Many actors, some rogue. Escalation can suddenly be catastrophic.

It'll be interesting to see which path China takes as they continue to grow. So far, they've been incredibly impressive.

I don't have anything sophisticated to say about Ukraine other than I am violently opposed to Putin's invasion.
But I claim very little understanding. I would need a team of advisors. I would want to meet with the Russian delegation to hear their supposed justification.
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