dimitrig said:

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I watched a segment on NHK World about how the Russian propaganda machine is working overdrive and how it is slowly starting to change the narrative of the war. Of course, we see examples of that here on a daily basis.

In the piece they examined several YouTube videos and pointed out how they were faked/staged.

They also went through the comments section and pointed out how many of the comments were tied to known Russian troll farms.

Of course this isn't new and Ukraine does this, too, but I would think that people that went to Cal would be skeptical enough of this sort misinformation that they wouldn't flood this channel with it.

I know we all just can't wait to sign in every day to see what else Colonel McGregor has to say.

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What you're dealing with here is known in psychology as a case of cognitive dissonance, or the difficulty in processing contradictory information. You`re presented with a large amount of facts in the form of actual videos, but are unable to process them as they not only diametrically oppose your perception of the situation, but go beyond that, challenging your basic personal belief system.

So all these videos above of Ukrainian men being forced into vans by aggressive roaming gangs of soldiers must be fake, or staged, as confirmed to you by the NHK. Ukraine good, Russia bad, double plus bad, Vlad Putin is a meaner version of Emmanuel Goldstein.

I must have posted several dozen actual footage of Ukrainians being forcefully conscripted, there is a fresh batch getting published online every week, and all these have been filmed and originally posted by Ukrainians who are helplessly watching their neighbors and family members being forcibly shipped off to the meat grinder.

Yeah I went to Cal, for my masters too. I have had the privilege of growing up and travelling to many countries at a young age, staying open to different perspectives, reading sources in several languages, keeping contact with people from around the world on a daily basis.

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dimitrig said:

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I watched a segment on NHK World about how the Russian propaganda machine is working overdrive and how it is slowly starting to change the narrative of the war. Of course, we see examples of that here on a daily basis.

In the piece they examined several YouTube videos and pointed out how they were faked/staged.

They also went through the comments section and pointed out how many of the comments were tied to known Russian troll farms.

Of course this isn't new and Ukraine does this, too, but I would think that people that went to Cal would be skeptical enough of this sort misinformation that they wouldn't flood this channel with it.

I know we all just can't wait to sign in every day to see what else Colonel McGregor has to say.

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What you're dealing with here is known in psychology as a case of cognitive dissonance, or the difficulty in processing contradictory information. You`re presented with a large amount of facts in the form of actual videos, but are unable to process them as they not only diametrically oppose your perception of the situation, but go beyond that, challenging your basic personal belief system.

So all these videos above of Ukrainian men being forced into vans by aggressive roaming gangs of soldiers must be fake, or staged, as confirmed to you by the NHK. Ukraine good, Russia bad, double plus bad, Vlad Putin is a meaner version of Emmanuel Goldstein.

I must have posted several dozen actual footage of Ukrainians being forcefully conscripted, there is a fresh batch getting published online every week, and all these have been filmed and originally posted by Ukrainians who are helplessly watching their neighbors and family members being forcibly shipped off to the meat grinder.

Yeah I went to Cal, for my masters too. I have had the privilege of growing up and travelling to many countries at a young age, staying open to different perspectives, reading sources in several languages, keeping contact with people from around the world on a daily basis.

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I stopped paying attention to walls of videos and/or Tweets being posted, especially without any summary provided. That isn't just limited to this thread or posts by certain individuals but I only have so much time to wade through what could potentially be bull*****

If you think these videos are the truth then maybe you should alter your presentation style by focusing on the best sources and providing summaries. Throwing a bunch of crap to the wall and seeing what sticks isn't a good way to make a point. More isn't always better.

dimitrig said:

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Cal88 said:

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dimitrig said:

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I watched a segment on NHK World about how the Russian propaganda machine is working overdrive and how it is slowly starting to change the narrative of the war. Of course, we see examples of that here on a daily basis.

In the piece they examined several YouTube videos and pointed out how they were faked/staged.

They also went through the comments section and pointed out how many of the comments were tied to known Russian troll farms.

Of course this isn't new and Ukraine does this, too, but I would think that people that went to Cal would be skeptical enough of this sort misinformation that they wouldn't flood this channel with it.

I know we all just can't wait to sign in every day to see what else Colonel McGregor has to say.

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What you're dealing with here is known in psychology as a case of cognitive dissonance, or the difficulty in processing contradictory information. You`re presented with a large amount of facts in the form of actual videos, but are unable to process them as they not only diametrically oppose your perception of the situation, but go beyond that, challenging your basic personal belief system.

So all these videos above of Ukrainian men being forced into vans by aggressive roaming gangs of soldiers must be fake, or staged, as confirmed to you by the NHK. Ukraine good, Russia bad, double plus bad, Vlad Putin is a meaner version of Emmanuel Goldstein.

I must have posted several dozen actual footage of Ukrainians being forcefully conscripted, there is a fresh batch getting published online every week, and all these have been filmed and originally posted by Ukrainians who are helplessly watching their neighbors and family members being forcibly shipped off to the meat grinder.

Yeah I went to Cal, for my masters too. I have had the privilege of growing up and travelling to many countries at a young age, staying open to different perspectives, reading sources in several languages, keeping contact with people from around the world on a daily basis.

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I stopped paying attention to walls of videos and/or Tweets being posted, especially without any summary provided. That isn't just limited to this thread or posts by certain individuals but I only have so much time to wade through what could potentially be bull*****

If you think these videos are the truth then maybe you should alter your presentation style by focusing on the best sources and providing summaries. Throwing a bunch of crap to the wall and seeing what sticks isn't a good way to make a point. More isn't always better.

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If he gave just one or two first person sources, then you'd claim that anecdotal evidence doesn't prove anything. It is tough to argue something that the media has boycotted.

BILL GATES: The Ukrainian government is one of the most corrupt in the world pic.twitter.com/TwsrjnCJNe

— Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) February 27, 2023

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dimitrig said:

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I watched a segment on NHK World about how the Russian propaganda machine is working overdrive and how it is slowly starting to change the narrative of the war. Of course, we see examples of that here on a daily basis.

In the piece they examined several YouTube videos and pointed out how they were faked/staged.

They also went through the comments section and pointed out how many of the comments were tied to known Russian troll farms.

Of course this isn't new and Ukraine does this, too, but I would think that people that went to Cal would be skeptical enough of this sort misinformation that they wouldn't flood this channel with it.

I know we all just can't wait to sign in every day to see what else Colonel McGregor has to say.

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What you're dealing with here is known in psychology as a case of cognitive dissonance, or the difficulty in processing contradictory information. You`re presented with a large amount of facts in the form of actual videos, but are unable to process them as they not only diametrically oppose your perception of the situation, but go beyond that, challenging your basic personal belief system.

So all these videos above of Ukrainian men being forced into vans by aggressive roaming gangs of soldiers must be fake, or staged, as confirmed to you by the NHK. Ukraine good, Russia bad, double plus bad, Vlad Putin is a meaner version of Emmanuel Goldstein.

I must have posted several dozen actual footage of Ukrainians being forcefully conscripted, there is a fresh batch getting published online every week, and all these have been filmed and originally posted by Ukrainians who are helplessly watching their neighbors and family members being forcibly shipped off to the meat grinder.

Yeah I went to Cal, for my masters too. I have had the privilege of growing up and travelling to many countries at a young age, staying open to different perspectives, reading sources in several languages, keeping contact with people from around the world on a daily basis.

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I stopped paying attention to walls of videos and/or Tweets being posted, especially without any summary provided. That isn't just limited to this thread or posts by certain individuals but I only have so much time to wade through what could potentially be bull*****

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You mean you're not interested in spending time on the output of such Twitter luminaries as "@ArthurM40330824" or "@72powpow"?

I wasn't planning on posting any of the usual items, but Colonel Douglass McGregor made an interesting historical point about the DC war machine.

In June of 2019, Iran shot down a US $110 million surveillance drone we sent along the Strait of Hormuz. We claimed it was in international air space. President Trump's advisors wanted to strike Iran back.

I checked, and The Olde York Tines claims Trump approved retaliatory strikes. In retrospect, it sure looks like many were cheering for military involvement.

Colonel McGregor credits President Trump for keeping us out of that conflict. Credit he doesn't get.

Washington Post:
https://www.washingtonpost.com ...
"After a tense week, Trump strikes an unusually friendly tone toward Iran

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I wasn't planning on posting any of the usual items, but Colonel Douglass McGregor made an interesting historical point about the DC war machine.

In June of 2019, Iran shot down a US $110 million surveillance drone we sent along the Strait of Hormuz. We claimed it was in international air space. President Trump's advisors wanted to strike Iran back.

I checked, and The Olde York Tines claims Trump approved retaliatory strikes. In retrospect, it sure looks like many were cheering for military involvement.

Colonel McGregor credits President Trump for keeping us out of that conflict. Credit he doesn't get.

Washington Post:
https://www.washingtonpost.com ...
"After a tense week, Trump strikes an unusually friendly tone toward Iran

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I think a lot of people give "credit" to Trump for being friendly to Iran, China, North Korea, and Russia.

Ha! No new wars, China's economy was hammered, and Russia didn't invade Ukraine!

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dimitrig said:

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Cal88 said:

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dimitrig said:

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I watched a segment on NHK World about how the Russian propaganda machine is working overdrive and how it is slowly starting to change the narrative of the war. Of course, we see examples of that here on a daily basis.

In the piece they examined several YouTube videos and pointed out how they were faked/staged.

They also went through the comments section and pointed out how many of the comments were tied to known Russian troll farms.

Of course this isn't new and Ukraine does this, too, but I would think that people that went to Cal would be skeptical enough of this sort misinformation that they wouldn't flood this channel with it.

I know we all just can't wait to sign in every day to see what else Colonel McGregor has to say.

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What you're dealing with here is known in psychology as a case of cognitive dissonance, or the difficulty in processing contradictory information. You`re presented with a large amount of facts in the form of actual videos, but are unable to process them as they not only diametrically oppose your perception of the situation, but go beyond that, challenging your basic personal belief system.

So all these videos above of Ukrainian men being forced into vans by aggressive roaming gangs of soldiers must be fake, or staged, as confirmed to you by the NHK. Ukraine good, Russia bad, double plus bad, Vlad Putin is a meaner version of Emmanuel Goldstein.

I must have posted several dozen actual footage of Ukrainians being forcefully conscripted, there is a fresh batch getting published online every week, and all these have been filmed and originally posted by Ukrainians who are helplessly watching their neighbors and family members being forcibly shipped off to the meat grinder.

Yeah I went to Cal, for my masters too. I have had the privilege of growing up and travelling to many countries at a young age, staying open to different perspectives, reading sources in several languages, keeping contact with people from around the world on a daily basis.

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I stopped paying attention to walls of videos and/or Tweets being posted, especially without any summary provided. That isn't just limited to this thread or posts by certain individuals but I only have so much time to wade through what could potentially be bull*****

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You mean you're not interested in spending time on the output of such Twitter luminaries as "@ArthurM40330824" or "@72powpow"?

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The footage is all that matters here.

And the fact is, you will find out more about what's really happening in Ukraine from this kind of footage than from MSM editorials and reports, the great majority of which amount to gaslighting.

None of the media sources you trust blindly are telling you that:

-Ukraine has been losing ~8 men for every Russian lost in this war

-its army is getting routed in the biggest battle of the war right now, with somewhere between 5,000 and 7,000 soldiers being slowly encircled in Bakhmut.

-Ukraine has been using chemical weapons delivered/dropped by quad drones

-Ukraine has had to resort to chasing and capturing men 16-60 to fill their staggering personnel losses

All of these facts have been relayed on social media by these "Twitter luminaries".

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Ha! No new wars, China's economy was hammered, and Russia didn't invade Ukraine!

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Also Trump did not engage in a major act of state terror like destroying the pipeline of a presumed ally.

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sycasey said:

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dimitrig said:

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Cal88 said:

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dimitrig said:

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I watched a segment on NHK World about how the Russian propaganda machine is working overdrive and how it is slowly starting to change the narrative of the war. Of course, we see examples of that here on a daily basis.

In the piece they examined several YouTube videos and pointed out how they were faked/staged.

They also went through the comments section and pointed out how many of the comments were tied to known Russian troll farms.

Of course this isn't new and Ukraine does this, too, but I would think that people that went to Cal would be skeptical enough of this sort misinformation that they wouldn't flood this channel with it.

I know we all just can't wait to sign in every day to see what else Colonel McGregor has to say.

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What you're dealing with here is known in psychology as a case of cognitive dissonance, or the difficulty in processing contradictory information. You`re presented with a large amount of facts in the form of actual videos, but are unable to process them as they not only diametrically oppose your perception of the situation, but go beyond that, challenging your basic personal belief system.

So all these videos above of Ukrainian men being forced into vans by aggressive roaming gangs of soldiers must be fake, or staged, as confirmed to you by the NHK. Ukraine good, Russia bad, double plus bad, Vlad Putin is a meaner version of Emmanuel Goldstein.

I must have posted several dozen actual footage of Ukrainians being forcefully conscripted, there is a fresh batch getting published online every week, and all these have been filmed and originally posted by Ukrainians who are helplessly watching their neighbors and family members being forcibly shipped off to the meat grinder.

Yeah I went to Cal, for my masters too. I have had the privilege of growing up and travelling to many countries at a young age, staying open to different perspectives, reading sources in several languages, keeping contact with people from around the world on a daily basis.

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I stopped paying attention to walls of videos and/or Tweets being posted, especially without any summary provided. That isn't just limited to this thread or posts by certain individuals but I only have so much time to wade through what could potentially be bull*****

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You mean you're not interested in spending time on the output of such Twitter luminaries as "@ArthurM40330824" or "@72powpow"?

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The footage is all that matters here.

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And given that these are random unidentified Twitter accounts, how can anyone verify that these videos are not either faked or heavily, misleadingly edited? The Russian government has been known to do that, and they definitely would do it to make Ukraine look as bad as possible.

No one can verify. That's the problem.

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Ha! No new wars, China's economy was hammered, and Russia didn't invade Ukraine!

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Once again Trumpers show how bad they are with numbers and data. During Trump's Presidency. China's GDP growth continued the same downward trend that began in GWB's 2nd term. The only difference is that Trump was receiving money from China.

In 2017, the company reported an unusually large spike in revenue — some $17.5 million, more than the previous five years’ combined. It was accompanied by a $15.1 million withdrawal by Mr. Trump from the company’s capital account.https://t.co/nJNNpmOgU8

— Debbie (@DebbieSVA) February 26, 2023

sycasey said:

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Cal88 said:

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sycasey said:

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dimitrig said:

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Cal88 said:

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dimitrig said:

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I watched a segment on NHK World about how the Russian propaganda machine is working overdrive and how it is slowly starting to change the narrative of the war. Of course, we see examples of that here on a daily basis.

In the piece they examined several YouTube videos and pointed out how they were faked/staged.

They also went through the comments section and pointed out how many of the comments were tied to known Russian troll farms.

Of course this isn't new and Ukraine does this, too, but I would think that people that went to Cal would be skeptical enough of this sort misinformation that they wouldn't flood this channel with it.

I know we all just can't wait to sign in every day to see what else Colonel McGregor has to say.

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What you're dealing with here is known in psychology as a case of cognitive dissonance, or the difficulty in processing contradictory information. You`re presented with a large amount of facts in the form of actual videos, but are unable to process them as they not only diametrically oppose your perception of the situation, but go beyond that, challenging your basic personal belief system.

So all these videos above of Ukrainian men being forced into vans by aggressive roaming gangs of soldiers must be fake, or staged, as confirmed to you by the NHK. Ukraine good, Russia bad, double plus bad, Vlad Putin is a meaner version of Emmanuel Goldstein.

I must have posted several dozen actual footage of Ukrainians being forcefully conscripted, there is a fresh batch getting published online every week, and all these have been filmed and originally posted by Ukrainians who are helplessly watching their neighbors and family members being forcibly shipped off to the meat grinder.

Yeah I went to Cal, for my masters too. I have had the privilege of growing up and travelling to many countries at a young age, staying open to different perspectives, reading sources in several languages, keeping contact with people from around the world on a daily basis.

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I stopped paying attention to walls of videos and/or Tweets being posted, especially without any summary provided. That isn't just limited to this thread or posts by certain individuals but I only have so much time to wade through what could potentially be bull*****

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You mean you're not interested in spending time on the output of such Twitter luminaries as "@ArthurM40330824" or "@72powpow"?

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The footage is all that matters here.

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And given that these are random unidentified Twitter accounts, how can anyone verify that these videos are not either faked or heavily, misleadingly edited? The Russian government has been known to do that, and they definitely would do it to make Ukraine look as bad as possible.

No one can verify. That's the problem.

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The time it would take to gather different people, in different places, to stage such shots, to keep others at bay, shut down streets, put on the production... all for twitter accounts that don't get much traffic? Doesn't make sense.

Some of the other one-off videos? Possibly.

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sycasey said:

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Cal88 said:

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sycasey said:

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dimitrig said:

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Cal88 said:

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dimitrig said:

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I watched a segment on NHK World about how the Russian propaganda machine is working overdrive and how it is slowly starting to change the narrative of the war. Of course, we see examples of that here on a daily basis.

In the piece they examined several YouTube videos and pointed out how they were faked/staged.

They also went through the comments section and pointed out how many of the comments were tied to known Russian troll farms.

Of course this isn't new and Ukraine does this, too, but I would think that people that went to Cal would be skeptical enough of this sort misinformation that they wouldn't flood this channel with it.

I know we all just can't wait to sign in every day to see what else Colonel McGregor has to say.

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What you're dealing with here is known in psychology as a case of cognitive dissonance, or the difficulty in processing contradictory information. You`re presented with a large amount of facts in the form of actual videos, but are unable to process them as they not only diametrically oppose your perception of the situation, but go beyond that, challenging your basic personal belief system.

So all these videos above of Ukrainian men being forced into vans by aggressive roaming gangs of soldiers must be fake, or staged, as confirmed to you by the NHK. Ukraine good, Russia bad, double plus bad, Vlad Putin is a meaner version of Emmanuel Goldstein.

I must have posted several dozen actual footage of Ukrainians being forcefully conscripted, there is a fresh batch getting published online every week, and all these have been filmed and originally posted by Ukrainians who are helplessly watching their neighbors and family members being forcibly shipped off to the meat grinder.

Yeah I went to Cal, for my masters too. I have had the privilege of growing up and travelling to many countries at a young age, staying open to different perspectives, reading sources in several languages, keeping contact with people from around the world on a daily basis.

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I stopped paying attention to walls of videos and/or Tweets being posted, especially without any summary provided. That isn't just limited to this thread or posts by certain individuals but I only have so much time to wade through what could potentially be bull*****

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You mean you're not interested in spending time on the output of such Twitter luminaries as "@ArthurM40330824" or "@72powpow"?

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The footage is all that matters here.

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And given that these are random unidentified Twitter accounts, how can anyone verify that these videos are not either faked or heavily, misleadingly edited? The Russian government has been known to do that, and they definitely would do it to make Ukraine look as bad as possible.

No one can verify. That's the problem.

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The time it would take to gather different people, in different places, to stage such shots, to keep others at bay, shut down streets, put on the production... all for twitter accounts that don't get much traffic? Doesn't make sense.

Some of the other one-off videos? Possibly.

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It really does not take much effort to stage videos that are less than two minutes long.

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movielover said:

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sycasey said:

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Cal88 said:

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sycasey said:

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dimitrig said:

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Cal88 said:

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dimitrig said:

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I watched a segment on NHK World about how the Russian propaganda machine is working overdrive and how it is slowly starting to change the narrative of the war. Of course, we see examples of that here on a daily basis.

In the piece they examined several YouTube videos and pointed out how they were faked/staged.

They also went through the comments section and pointed out how many of the comments were tied to known Russian troll farms.

Of course this isn't new and Ukraine does this, too, but I would think that people that went to Cal would be skeptical enough of this sort misinformation that they wouldn't flood this channel with it.

I know we all just can't wait to sign in every day to see what else Colonel McGregor has to say.

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What you're dealing with here is known in psychology as a case of cognitive dissonance, or the difficulty in processing contradictory information. You`re presented with a large amount of facts in the form of actual videos, but are unable to process them as they not only diametrically oppose your perception of the situation, but go beyond that, challenging your basic personal belief system.

So all these videos above of Ukrainian men being forced into vans by aggressive roaming gangs of soldiers must be fake, or staged, as confirmed to you by the NHK. Ukraine good, Russia bad, double plus bad, Vlad Putin is a meaner version of Emmanuel Goldstein.

I must have posted several dozen actual footage of Ukrainians being forcefully conscripted, there is a fresh batch getting published online every week, and all these have been filmed and originally posted by Ukrainians who are helplessly watching their neighbors and family members being forcibly shipped off to the meat grinder.

Yeah I went to Cal, for my masters too. I have had the privilege of growing up and travelling to many countries at a young age, staying open to different perspectives, reading sources in several languages, keeping contact with people from around the world on a daily basis.

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I stopped paying attention to walls of videos and/or Tweets being posted, especially without any summary provided. That isn't just limited to this thread or posts by certain individuals but I only have so much time to wade through what could potentially be bull*****

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You mean you're not interested in spending time on the output of such Twitter luminaries as "@ArthurM40330824" or "@72powpow"?

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The footage is all that matters here.

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And given that these are random unidentified Twitter accounts, how can anyone verify that these videos are not either faked or heavily, misleadingly edited? The Russian government has been known to do that, and they definitely would do it to make Ukraine look as bad as possible.

No one can verify. That's the problem.

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The time it would take to gather different people, in different places, to stage such shots, to keep others at bay, shut down streets, put on the production... all for twitter accounts that don't get much traffic? Doesn't make sense.

Some of the other one-off videos? Possibly.

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It really does not take much effort to stage videos that are less than two minutes long.

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Especially when they take existing footage from other events and edit it and then use some CGI on top of it. It is all pretty easy to fake and that was what NHK was showing.

I am not going to claim to know what is fake or not, but the idea is that each side can flood social media with so much disinformation that it becomes hard to determine what reality is. A healthy dose of skepticism is required.

What always amazes me is that people who believe that MSM media is lying to them or is part of some giant global conspiracy have no problem believing what some wacko with Photoshop and too much time on his hands slaps together as journalism. Hence, people believing that Satan worshipping pedophiles gather at a pizza parlor. However, if NYT prints something it is obviously all lies. LOL!

Followers of this thread, look on the bright side: one day soon the useful idiots may begin proclaiming that there is no actual war in Ukraine. It's the perfect addition to the firehose of falsehoods and no different from how climate change deniers claim that there is no climate change but if there is it's not caused by humans and if it's caused by humans we can't do anything about it. Now they'll say there isn't a war but if there is it's not Putin's fault and if it's Putin's fault we should let him win because NATO/woke nazis/WEF/WKRP in Cincinnati.

I can only presume that if there is a heaven and a hell catturd1 is looking up with pride.

It’s a weird right-wing talking point making the rounds. I don’t understand it. pic.twitter.com/uJnewaP6qr

— Irish Frog 🇺🇦 (@madirishfrog) February 25, 2023

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Followers of this thread, look on the bright side: one day soon the useful idiots may begin proclaiming that there is no actual war in Ukraine. It's the perfect addition to the firehose of falsehoods and no different from how climate change deniers claim that there is no climate change but if there is it's not caused by humans and if it's caused by humans we can't do anything about it. Now they'll say there isn't a war but if there is it's not Putin's fault and if it's Putin's fault we should let him win because NATO/woke nazis/WEF/WKRP in Cincinnati.

I can only presume that if there is a heaven and a hell catturd1 is looking up with pride.

It’s a weird right-wing talking point making the rounds. I don’t understand it. pic.twitter.com/uJnewaP6qr

— Irish Frog 🇺🇦 (@madirishfrog) February 25, 2023

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Can you link the catturd2 tweet? I can't find it. It is a pretty active page though. I am curious what he or she says about there not being a war since your image doesn't reflect that and the repeated tweet is cut off.

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Very first hit on Google when searching for that quote and catturd2:

With every war going all the way back to Vietnam, the press has been heavily integrated with the troops and there's thousands of hours of live video footage.

In Ukraine, nothing.

We get no footage, no detailed updates, no graphs explaining how the war is going, who has… https://t.co/YggVV5c5ad

— Catturd ™ (@catturd2) February 24, 2023

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Unit2Sucks said:

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Followers of this thread, look on the bright side: one day soon the useful idiots may begin proclaiming that there is no actual war in Ukraine. It's the perfect addition to the firehose of falsehoods and no different from how climate change deniers claim that there is no climate change but if there is it's not caused by humans and if it's caused by humans we can't do anything about it. Now they'll say there isn't a war but if there is it's not Putin's fault and if it's Putin's fault we should let him win because NATO/woke nazis/WEF/WKRP in Cincinnati.

I can only presume that if there is a heaven and a hell catturd1 is looking up with pride.

It’s a weird right-wing talking point making the rounds. I don’t understand it. pic.twitter.com/uJnewaP6qr

— Irish Frog 🇺🇦 (@madirishfrog) February 25, 2023

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Can you link the catturd2 tweet? I can't find it. It is a pretty active page though. I am curious what he or she says about there not being a war since your image doesn't reflect that and the repeated tweet is cut off.

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Very first hit on Google when searching for that quote and catturd2:

With every war going all the way back to Vietnam, the press has been heavily integrated with the troops and there's thousands of hours of live video footage.

In Ukraine, nothing.

We get no footage, no detailed updates, no graphs explaining how the war is going, who has… https://t.co/YggVV5c5ad

— Catturd ™ (@catturd2) February 24, 2023

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Thank you. I thought there was more to the quote given U2's spin job. I am guessing the USA involves more media in wars involving US troops as opposed to proxy wars, so we are generally going with a Western/ Ukrainian viewpoint of the war without a ton of media coverage.

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Yes, that is the obvious answer. The US is not actually in this war, so US media is not heavily embedded with the troops like they would be with actual American troops.

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The climate changes. Duh. Has there been an out-of-the-ordinary change in temperatures? No.

But for arguments sake, let's believe the Warmists. OK. There is something we can do - the gold-standard IPCC report lays it out.

1. The world needs to build 1,000 nuclear power plants - no CO2 generated - which would still only have a minor effect on temperatures. IPCC report.

2. Dramatically embrace clean Natural Gas. NG is the primary reason the USA dropped CO2 emissions by 15%, topping Europe's efforts. Real-world results.

Many Liberals are against both items. In CA, they actually want to ban gas stoves!

(Some argue the recent economic slowdown and inflation was purposefully engineered to assist this 'green transition' - as solar panels and bird-killing wind turbines can't power robust growing economies efficiently.)

There is a long history of Alarmist thinking - Global Cooling, ozone hole, etc.

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What does this post have to do with "The Official Russian Invasion of Ukraine"?

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movielover said:

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The climate changes. Duh. Has there been an out-of-the-ordinary change in temperatures? No.

But for arguments sake, let's believe the Warmists. OK. There is something we can do - the gold-standard IPCC report lays it out.

1. The world needs to build 1,000 nuclear power plants - no CO2 generated - which would still only have a minor effect on temperatures. IPCC report.

2. Dramatically embrace clean Natural Gas. NG is the primary reason the USA dropped CO2 emissions by 15%, topping Europe's efforts. Real-world results.

Many Liberals are against both items. In CA, they actually want to ban gas stoves!

(Some argue the recent economic slowdown and inflation was purposefully engineered to assist this 'green transition' - as solar panels and bird-killing wind turbines can't power robust growing economies efficiently.)

There is a long history of Alarmist thinking - Global Cooling, ozone hole, etc.

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What does this post have to do with "The Official Russian Invasion of Ukraine"?

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He is responding to U2 who went there in his usual grand wordy,slippery slope, conflating arguments. See below.

"Followers of this thread, look on the bright side: one day soon the useful idiots may begin proclaiming that there is no actual war in Ukraine. It's the perfect addition to the firehose of falsehoods and no different from how climate change deniers claim that there is no climate change but if there is it's not caused by humans and if it's caused by humans we can't do anything about it. Now they'll say there isn't a war but if there is it's not Putin's fault and if it's Putin's fault we should let him win because NATO/woke nazis/WEF/WKRP in Cincinnati."

He really, really, really likes "firehose of falsehoods".

I like her sass for Americans.

Zelenskyy can kiss my Black ass if he thinks that we’re sending American sons and daughters to fight for his money-laundering scheme! https://t.co/hYPSmcb4px

— Lavern Spicer 🇺🇸 (@lavern_spicer) February 28, 2023