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In reply to Cal88 • 10:41a, 4/1/23
Cal88 said:
sycasey said:
dimitrig said:
movielover said:
Why did JFK send our military to Cuba? In search of cigars or young concubines?

*** does Cuba have to do with Ukraine?

Our invasion there was a bad idea and so is Russia's in Ukraine. Excellent comparison.

That nuclear geopolitical crisis was settled by the Soviets pulling out their missiles from Cuba, and the US simultaneously pulling out missiles from Turkey. Back then you had serious people like JFK at the helm.

Fast forward to Ukraine early last year and the NATO-sponsored Maidan government, openly hostile to Russia, stating their will to acquire nuclear weapons:

https://www.indianarrative.com/world-news/ukraines-president-zelensky-hints-at-developing-nuclear-weapons-after-nato-declares-it-will-not-confront-russia-32759.html

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/4/16/ukraine-may-seek-nuclear-weapons-if-left-out-of-nato-diplomat

The right course of action would have been for Ukraine to ratify and abide by the Minsk Agreements, stay out of NATO, respect the rights of its large minorities, stay neutral and cooperate with both sides building up its natural position as the hub of Russian gas distribution to Europe, while simultaneously expanding their economic ties with Germany and the EU, the same way Turkey plays both sides to its own economic and political advantage.

Instead of this, Ukraine has been egged on by NATO to take a suicidedly aggressive line against both Russia and its large Russian minority. Paraphrasing Mearsheimer, we've lead Ukraine down the primrose path, and now that country is getting wrecked.

The US, UK, France etc don't share a long border with Russia, and ultimately can use Ukraine to bleed Russia, paraphrasing Lindsay Graham, "to the last Ukrainian", whereas Ukraine has to live with Russia as a neighbor, much like Cuba has to live with the US. The current war in Ukraine is a direct result of the ignorance of this basic geopolitical reality.


The US didn't put nuclear missiles in Ukraine and had no plans to do so.

There was no imminent action to admit Ukraine to NATO, only a stated desire by Ukraine.

These are straw man arguments.

The reality is that Ukraine already has nuclear weapons and chose to give them up in exchange for assurances that they wouldn't need them. Russia has taken advantage of that to turn a proxy war that wasn't going well for them into a full fledged war.

There are zero parallels with anything that happened in Cuba and Russian national security never was - and still isn't despite their bad behavior - at stake.

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In reply to dimitrig • 10:47a, 4/1/23
dimitrig said:
Cal88 said:
sycasey said:
dimitrig said:
movielover said:
Why did JFK send our military to Cuba? In search of cigars or young concubines?

*** does Cuba have to do with Ukraine?

Our invasion there was a bad idea and so is Russia's in Ukraine. Excellent comparison.

That nuclear geopolitical crisis was settled by the Soviets pulling out their missiles from Cuba, and the US simultaneously pulling out missiles from Turkey. Back then you had serious people like JFK at the helm.

Fast forward to Ukraine early last year and the NATO-sponsored Maidan government, openly hostile to Russia, stating their will to acquire nuclear weapons:

https://www.indianarrative.com/world-news/ukraines-president-zelensky-hints-at-developing-nuclear-weapons-after-nato-declares-it-will-not-confront-russia-32759.html

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/4/16/ukraine-may-seek-nuclear-weapons-if-left-out-of-nato-diplomat

The right course of action would have been for Ukraine to ratify and abide by the Minsk Agreements, stay out of NATO, respect the rights of its large minorities, stay neutral and cooperate with both sides building up its natural position as the hub of Russian gas distribution to Europe, while simultaneously expanding their economic ties with Germany and the EU, the same way Turkey plays both sides to its own economic and political advantage.

Instead of this, Ukraine has been egged on by NATO to take a suicidedly aggressive line against both Russia and its large Russian minority. Paraphrasing Mearsheimer, we've lead Ukraine down the primrose path, and now that country is getting wrecked.

The US, UK, France etc don't share a long border with Russia, and ultimately can use Ukraine to bleed Russia, paraphrasing Lindsay Graham, "to the last Ukrainian", whereas Ukraine has to live with Russia as a neighbor, much like Cuba has to live with the US. The current war in Ukraine is a direct result of the ignorance of this basic geopolitical reality.


The US didn't put nuclear missiles in Ukraine and had no plans to do so.

There was no imminent action to admit Ukraine to NATO, only a stated desire by Ukraine.

These are straw man arguments.

The reality is that Ukraine already has nuclear weapons and chose to give them up in exchange for assurances that they wouldn't need them. Russia has taken advantage of that to turn a proxy war that wasn't going well for them into a full fledged war.

There are zero parallels with anything that happened in Cuba and Russian national security never was - and still isn't despite their bad behavior - at stake.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29198497.amp

2014: Nato countries have started delivering arms to Ukraine to help its soldiers fight pro-Russian separatists in the east, the defence minister says

https://www.cato.org/commentary/nato-arms-sales-ukraine-spark-starts-war-russia

2021; The United States and its NATO allies are busily arming Ukraine and engaging in other actions that encourage the leaders in Kiev to believe that they have strong Western backing in their confrontation with Russia and Russianbacked separatists. The conflict between the Ukrainian government and separatist forces in the Donbass region, which has remained at a low simmer in recent years, thanks to the fragile Minsk agreements, shows unmistakable signs of heating up. That development is exacerbating already dangerous tensions between Kiev and Moscow. There is growing speculation that Russia might even launch an invasion of Ukraine.
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In reply to dimitrig • 10:50a, 4/1/23
Barack Obama knew Ukraine entering NATO was a red line for Russia.

Putin considers NATO in Ukraine an existential threat.

The US / NATO trained over 400,000 Ukranian soldiers, and not for the Trans Games.

Western leaders openly admitted their entering the Minsk Accords was a ploy, a game, to buy time for Ukraine to build its military.

Don't forget Victoria Nuland, who never goes away, acting like an international svengali, most recently suggesting Ukraine should attack Crimea.

Meanwhile, we recently rejected a Chinese proposal for a cease fire and peace before the plan was even released. America rejected it, not Ukraine. We don't even have open communication with Russia.
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In reply to oski003 • 10:54a, 4/1/23
oski003 said:
dimitrig said:
Cal88 said:
sycasey said:
dimitrig said:
movielover said:
Why did JFK send our military to Cuba? In search of cigars or young concubines?

*** does Cuba have to do with Ukraine?

Our invasion there was a bad idea and so is Russia's in Ukraine. Excellent comparison.

That nuclear geopolitical crisis was settled by the Soviets pulling out their missiles from Cuba, and the US simultaneously pulling out missiles from Turkey. Back then you had serious people like JFK at the helm.

Fast forward to Ukraine early last year and the NATO-sponsored Maidan government, openly hostile to Russia, stating their will to acquire nuclear weapons:

https://www.indianarrative.com/world-news/ukraines-president-zelensky-hints-at-developing-nuclear-weapons-after-nato-declares-it-will-not-confront-russia-32759.html

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/4/16/ukraine-may-seek-nuclear-weapons-if-left-out-of-nato-diplomat

The right course of action would have been for Ukraine to ratify and abide by the Minsk Agreements, stay out of NATO, respect the rights of its large minorities, stay neutral and cooperate with both sides building up its natural position as the hub of Russian gas distribution to Europe, while simultaneously expanding their economic ties with Germany and the EU, the same way Turkey plays both sides to its own economic and political advantage.

Instead of this, Ukraine has been egged on by NATO to take a suicidedly aggressive line against both Russia and its large Russian minority. Paraphrasing Mearsheimer, we've lead Ukraine down the primrose path, and now that country is getting wrecked.

The US, UK, France etc don't share a long border with Russia, and ultimately can use Ukraine to bleed Russia, paraphrasing Lindsay Graham, "to the last Ukrainian", whereas Ukraine has to live with Russia as a neighbor, much like Cuba has to live with the US. The current war in Ukraine is a direct result of the ignorance of this basic geopolitical reality.


The US didn't put nuclear missiles in Ukraine and had no plans to do so.

There was no imminent action to admit Ukraine to NATO, only a stated desire by Ukraine.

These are straw man arguments.

The reality is that Ukraine already has nuclear weapons and chose to give them up in exchange for assurances that they wouldn't need them. Russia has taken advantage of that to turn a proxy war that wasn't going well for them into a full fledged war.

There are zero parallels with anything that happened in Cuba and Russian national security never was - and still isn't despite their bad behavior - at stake.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29198497.amp

2014: Nato countries have started delivering arms to Ukraine to help its soldiers fight pro-Russian separatists in the east, the defence minister says


There was a civil war going on in Ukraine. Russia was delivering arms to the separatists and in some cases sending troops.

This is after they occupied and annexed Crimea which they had no business doing.

It is clear who the aggressors here are.
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In reply to dimitrig • 11:05a, 4/1/23
dimitrig said:
oski003 said:
dimitrig said:
Cal88 said:
sycasey said:
dimitrig said:
movielover said:
Why did JFK send our military to Cuba? In search of cigars or young concubines?

*** does Cuba have to do with Ukraine?

Our invasion there was a bad idea and so is Russia's in Ukraine. Excellent comparison.

That nuclear geopolitical crisis was settled by the Soviets pulling out their missiles from Cuba, and the US simultaneously pulling out missiles from Turkey. Back then you had serious people like JFK at the helm.

Fast forward to Ukraine early last year and the NATO-sponsored Maidan government, openly hostile to Russia, stating their will to acquire nuclear weapons:

https://www.indianarrative.com/world-news/ukraines-president-zelensky-hints-at-developing-nuclear-weapons-after-nato-declares-it-will-not-confront-russia-32759.html

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/4/16/ukraine-may-seek-nuclear-weapons-if-left-out-of-nato-diplomat

The right course of action would have been for Ukraine to ratify and abide by the Minsk Agreements, stay out of NATO, respect the rights of its large minorities, stay neutral and cooperate with both sides building up its natural position as the hub of Russian gas distribution to Europe, while simultaneously expanding their economic ties with Germany and the EU, the same way Turkey plays both sides to its own economic and political advantage.

Instead of this, Ukraine has been egged on by NATO to take a suicidedly aggressive line against both Russia and its large Russian minority. Paraphrasing Mearsheimer, we've lead Ukraine down the primrose path, and now that country is getting wrecked.

The US, UK, France etc don't share a long border with Russia, and ultimately can use Ukraine to bleed Russia, paraphrasing Lindsay Graham, "to the last Ukrainian", whereas Ukraine has to live with Russia as a neighbor, much like Cuba has to live with the US. The current war in Ukraine is a direct result of the ignorance of this basic geopolitical reality.


The US didn't put nuclear missiles in Ukraine and had no plans to do so.

There was no imminent action to admit Ukraine to NATO, only a stated desire by Ukraine.

These are straw man arguments.

The reality is that Ukraine already has nuclear weapons and chose to give them up in exchange for assurances that they wouldn't need them. Russia has taken advantage of that to turn a proxy war that wasn't going well for them into a full fledged war.

There are zero parallels with anything that happened in Cuba and Russian national security never was - and still isn't despite their bad behavior - at stake.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29198497.amp

2014: Nato countries have started delivering arms to Ukraine to help its soldiers fight pro-Russian separatists in the east, the defence minister says


There was a civil war going on in Ukraine. Russia was delivering arms to the separatists and in some cases sending troops.

This is after they occupied and annexed Crimea which they had no business doing.

It is clear who the aggressors here are.


NATO backed Western Ukraine took control of the country from Russian backed Eastern Ukraine in a coup. The latter wants independence or the Russian leaning government restored, and the former won't allow it, resulting in years of conflict. It appears Russia invaded before the NATO backed forces were near defeating the separatists and retaking Crimea.
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In reply to oski003 • 11:11a, 4/1/23
Crimea is ethnically Russian, they speak Russian like Zelensy, and they voted to join Russia. It is now thriving and has one of the busiest airports in Russia.
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In reply to movielover • 11:22a, 4/1/23
movielover said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
movielover said:
Why did JFK send our military to Cuba? In search of cigars or young concubines?
Ummm… The US military wasn't involved in the Bay of Pigs invasion. JFK wasn't alive in 1898 so he wasn't sending anybody to Cuba then.


Fail. Not a Bay of Pigs analogy.
OK, then enlighten us. When did JFK send the US military to Cuba?
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In reply to dimitrig • 11:43a, 4/1/23
dimitrig said:
Cal88 said:
sycasey said:
dimitrig said:
movielover said:
Why did JFK send our military to Cuba? In search of cigars or young concubines?

*** does Cuba have to do with Ukraine?

Our invasion there was a bad idea and so is Russia's in Ukraine. Excellent comparison.

That nuclear geopolitical crisis was settled by the Soviets pulling out their missiles from Cuba, and the US simultaneously pulling out missiles from Turkey. Back then you had serious people like JFK at the helm.

Fast forward to Ukraine early last year and the NATO-sponsored Maidan government, openly hostile to Russia, stating their will to acquire nuclear weapons:

https://www.indianarrative.com/world-news/ukraines-president-zelensky-hints-at-developing-nuclear-weapons-after-nato-declares-it-will-not-confront-russia-32759.html

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/4/16/ukraine-may-seek-nuclear-weapons-if-left-out-of-nato-diplomat

The right course of action would have been for Ukraine to ratify and abide by the Minsk Agreements, stay out of NATO, respect the rights of its large minorities, stay neutral and cooperate with both sides building up its natural position as the hub of Russian gas distribution to Europe, while simultaneously expanding their economic ties with Germany and the EU, the same way Turkey plays both sides to its own economic and political advantage.

Instead of this, Ukraine has been egged on by NATO to take a suicidedly aggressive line against both Russia and its large Russian minority. Paraphrasing Mearsheimer, we've lead Ukraine down the primrose path, and now that country is getting wrecked.

The US, UK, France etc don't share a long border with Russia, and ultimately can use Ukraine to bleed Russia, paraphrasing Lindsay Graham, "to the last Ukrainian", whereas Ukraine has to live with Russia as a neighbor, much like Cuba has to live with the US. The current war in Ukraine is a direct result of the ignorance of this basic geopolitical reality.


The US didn't put nuclear missiles in Ukraine and had no plans to do so.

There was no imminent action to admit Ukraine to NATO, only a stated desire by Ukraine.

These are straw man arguments.

The reality is that Ukraine already has nuclear weapons and chose to give them up in exchange for assurances that they wouldn't need them. Russia has taken advantage of that to turn a proxy war that wasn't going well for them into a full fledged war.

There are zero parallels with anything that happened in Cuba and Russian national security never was - and still isn't despite their bad behavior - at stake.


The truth is that Russia and/or the Russian-backed separatist groups in Donbas didn't hold to the terms of Minsk either, so pinning the failure all on Ukraine is stupid. Those groups are the equivalent of the nuclear missiles, the thing causing constant instability in Ukraine. If their violence never stopped, how could Minsk have worked?
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10:59a, 4/2/23
All the discussion of Ukraine and NATO and red lines are irrelevant. The simple truth is this:

Russia does not have the right to tell Ukraine what their policy is.
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In reply to golden sloth • 12:06p, 4/2/23
golden sloth said:
All the discussion of Ukraine and NATO and red lines are irrelevant. The simple truth is this:

Russia does not have the right to tell Ukraine what their policy is.


George Bush Sr and NATO promised Russia as the USSR dissolved that NATO wouldn't expand eastward. The Warsaw Pact dissolved, and NATO expanded eastward.

Now NATO put 400,000 trained and armed troops in Cuba eastern Ukraine and Russia saw that as an existential threat. Western leaders are on the record wanting to 'weaken Russia". FAFO.
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In reply to golden sloth • 2:20p, 4/2/23
golden sloth said:
All the discussion of Ukraine and NATO and red lines are irrelevant. The simple truth is this:

Russia does not have the right to tell Ukraine what their policy is.

Ukraine, or more specifically, the post-Maidan Poreshenko (video below) and Zelensky governments, have no right to persecute and wage war on their minorities.



Their government lost its legitimacy when it went to war on the Donbass, open calling for and condoning the shelling of their families and children, as Poreshenko did above, and violently repressed peaceful anti-Maidan protests, including burning alive several dozen peaceful anti-Maidan protesters in Odessa on May 2014:



These events in Odessa ignited protests in the Donbass, which were heavily repressed by the Kiev government. This started the open rebellion in that region, led by the Donetsk and Luhansk local militias (DPR and LPR):


Before there was a Special Military Operation, there was the Anti-Terrorist Operation, or war on the Donbass, where over 10,000 Russophone civilians were killed by the Ukrainian army.

None of these troubling aspects have been reported in the MSM.

Russia intervened directly in February 22 when it became clear that the Ukrainian army had massed 60,000 well-equipped troops that were about to crush the local Donbass rebels, with the stated intention of reconquering Crimea.

This is the actual course of events that led to this war.
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2:41p, 4/2/23
This May sadden the pro Kremlin trolls, but the world is now a slightly better place.




Conditions are still brutal in Bakhmut for both sides, but Russian shills are still wrong about having taken it and Ukraine is continuing to inflict losses on Russian troops, in large part because Russian command and control is so poor and they regularly find themselves walking into traps.

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In reply to Unit2Sucks • 2:56p, 4/2/23
Was he killed by NATO terrorism or factions within Russia?
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In reply to oski003 • 3:26p, 4/2/23
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Was he killed by NATO terrorism or factions within Russia?

story is interesting. he was at a cafe that use to be owned by prigozhin, he invited his fans for meet and greet. A woman gave him a statue , the statue was filled with 200g of explosives. So no clue who this woman is. There is a small video going around of him with the statue before the explosion.

edit: found it




explosion from outside the cafe

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In reply to oski003 • 3:29p, 4/2/23
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Was he killed by NATO terrorism or factions within Russia?

He was killed in a St Petersburg restaurant, along with other dining patrons and staff, from a bomb planted inside a gift given to him by a twoman who has been apprehended.

Not surprised to see U2Sucks and that Julia blogger here actually relishing in this act of terrorism, just as they did after the bombing of the Crimean Bridge, where an innocent driver whose truck was used to do the job was blown up.



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Japan not on board with the Russian sanctions. I would guess Japan gets its oil at near Brent prices, well above $60, as a lot of the oil they purchase is Siberian, which is a lighter oil with less sulphur content, thus more expensive, as opposed to Ural, which is more difficult to refine.
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5:15p, 4/2/23
Russian military blogger' is killed in St Petersburg caf bombing



https://mol.im/a/11930499
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In reply to movielover • 5:47p, 4/2/23
movielover said:
golden sloth said:
All the discussion of Ukraine and NATO and red lines are irrelevant. The simple truth is this:

Russia does not have the right to tell Ukraine what their policy is.


George Bush Sr and NATO promised Russia as the USSR dissolved that NATO wouldn't expand eastward. The Warsaw Pact dissolved, and NATO expanded eastward.

Now NATO put 400,000 trained and armed troops in Cuba eastern Ukraine and Russia saw that as an existential threat. Western leaders are on the record wanting to 'weaken Russia". FAFO.
I wonder, did anything happen in the 90s that made all those Central and Eastern European countries want additional military protection?
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In reply to MinotStateBeav • 8:47p, 4/2/23
MinotStateBeav said:
oski003 said:
Was he killed by NATO terrorism or factions within Russia?

story is interesting. he was at a cafe that use to be owned by prigozhin, he invited his fans for meet and greet. A woman gave him a statue , the statue was filled with 200g of explosives. So no clue who this woman is. There is a small video going around of him with the statue before the explosion.

edit: found it




explosion from outside the cafe

Yeah he effed around and found out. I guess he was friends with that woman whose dad was a Putin crony, but that doesn't really narrows it down much since all of these lowlifes knew each other. It's possible we're going to see more active resistance within Russia to this unprovoked debacle of a war for Russia but given that Russia has hundreds of thousands of military stationed throughout its territory to repress the people (a task to which Russian military is far better suited than fighting a war against a military), it's going to be a pretty big uphill battle.

For what it's worth, there is also talk that this was a hit by the Kremlin because Tatarsky was critical of Shoigu and that Prigozhin was on the invite list but didn't attend. Perhaps the Kremlin was trying to kill two axxholes with one stone. This is similar to the talk of why that woman was car bombed last year. Of course will be very unlikely to source any public information about this.

We obviously can't trust anything Russian "law enforcement" says but it's definitely still plausible that a Russian anti-war activist or anti-axxhole activist would have done the deed. Tatarsky was a shameless cheerleader for war crimes and unlike the pro-Putin crowd here, didn't bother to drape his cheerleading in any sort of fake justification. He made no excuses.

I think it's hilarious to see the pro-Kremlin crowd complaining that this is terrorism considering they continue to support the commission of atrocities throughout Ukraine by Russia. BTW, I an not accusing Minot of taking this position - one nice thing about Minot is he generally doesn't pretend to give a sh*t when axxholes get smoked, whatever side they are on.


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In reply to Unit2Sucks • 7:08p, 4/3/23
Unit2Sucks said:
MinotStateBeav said:
oski003 said:
Was he killed by NATO terrorism or factions within Russia?

story is interesting. he was at a cafe that use to be owned by prigozhin, he invited his fans for meet and greet. A woman gave him a statue , the statue was filled with 200g of explosives. So no clue who this woman is. There is a small video going around of him with the statue before the explosion.

edit: found it




explosion from outside the cafe

Yeah he effed around and found out. I guess he was friends with that woman whose dad was a Putin crony, but that doesn't really narrows it down much since all of these lowlifes knew each other. It's possible we're going to see more active resistance within Russia to this unprovoked debacle of a war for Russia but given that Russia has hundreds of thousands of military stationed throughout its territory to repress the people (a task to which Russian military is far better suited than fighting a war against a military), it's going to be a pretty big uphill battle.

For what it's worth, there is also talk that this was a hit by the Kremlin because Tatarsky was critical of Shoigu and that Prigozhin was on the invite list but didn't attend. Perhaps the Kremlin was trying to kill two axxholes with one stone. This is similar to the talk of why that woman was car bombed last year. Of course will be very unlikely to source any public information about this.

We obviously can't trust anything Russian "law enforcement" says but it's definitely still plausible that a Russian anti-war activist or anti-axxhole activist would have done the deed. Tatarsky was a shameless cheerleader for war crimes and unlike the pro-Putin crowd here, didn't bother to drape his cheerleading in any sort of fake justification. He made no excuses.

I think it's hilarious to see the pro-Kremlin crowd complaining that this is terrorism considering they continue to support the commission of atrocities throughout Ukraine by Russia. BTW, I an not accusing Minot of taking this position - one nice thing about Minot is he generally doesn't pretend to give a sh*t when axxholes get smoked, whatever side they are on.

Really scraping the bottom of the barrel here, U2Sucks, gloating over textbook terrorist bombings. Daria Dugin was not an extremist, she was a well-spoken young journalist. You condoning her death through the bomb planted in her car is both crass and demented.

I am not familiar with Tatarsky, he sounds like a blowhard, but here again condoning the bombing of a restaurant he held an event at, with dozens of patrons and staff getting injured or worse, is astonishingly evil. You're really too far gone.

This event was timed in order to take the wind out of the sails of an important PR milestone, taking place right at the same time, the takeover of the Bakhmut main square and city hall by Wagner:


It's a very cynical move, planned by Ukrainian intelligence (SBU). The Russians' response will be to track and kill the high level SBU officiers who were responsible, perhaps through a hypersonic missile strike.

One sad fallout from the terror bombing in St Petersburg is that the millions of Russians of Ukrainian descent and Ukrainian refugees in Russia might now be stigmatized, though they are not likely to be nearly as stigmatized as Russian Ukrainians are in Ukraine.
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In reply to dajo9 • 12:32a, 4/4/23
dajo9 said:

I am considering inviting the Prime Minister of Finland to join my NATO! (heh heh... ) Different acronym, of course, but actually better in many ways!
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1:59a, 4/5/23
HistoryLegends: Possible Offensive Strikes by Ukraine

PMC Wagner officer shares potential Ukranian moves.

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Russian energy giant boss found dead in Siberian cell in 40th mystery death of oligarchs and Putin officials | The US Sun


https://www.the-sun.com/news/7800626/russian-energy-boss-dead-cell-putin/
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Forbes: The United States Has Given Ukraine All The Heavy Trucks, Tankers And Recovery Vehicles the Ukrainians Need To Breach Russian Defenses

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/04/04/the-united-states-has-given-ukraine-all-the-heavy-trucks-tankers-and-recovery-vehicles-the-ukrainians-need-to-breach-russian-defenses/
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Russian defector sheds light on Putin paranoia and his secret train network


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/apr/05/russian-defector-sheds-light-on-putin-paranoia-including-secret-train?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
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In reply to bearister • 1:46p, 4/5/23
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Russian energy giant boss found dead in Siberian cell in 40th mystery death of oligarchs and Putin officials | The US Sun


https://www.the-sun.com/news/7800626/russian-energy-boss-dead-cell-putin/
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3:18p, 4/5/23
So NATO / the West are sending approximately 200 tanks, plus tankers, big rigs, armored vehicles, etc. for the Spring offensive.

I can't imagine they'll just waltz into eastern Ukraine. With all of the satellites, drones, and multi-layered air defense, might it not be a shooting gallery for Russia?

Will they finally unleash their air superiority? I would guess the best defense would be interrupting that movement to the war front. What's missing? Will Ukraine move vehicles at night? It's a lesson in warfare I'd prefer not to have.
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MacGregor on Bakhmut with deeper analysis on the battle of Bakhmut (3min segment bookmarked below) :

https://www.youtube.com/live/MxjSfIjicjg?feature=share&t=566

Essentially MacGregor states that Bakhmut has been set up by the Russians as a trap, encircled on 3 sides and used as a black hole for Ukrainian troops.

Zelensky and his militia heads who effectively run the country kept doubling down on the defense of Bakhmut, as the losses mounted in the tens of thousands.


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I tend to trust these guys a bit on whats going on. They say Ukraine is "Holding" Bakhmut with 20-30% of the city left. So they aren't really holding it..just losing slowly. THe guy on the left is the speak the truth guy(who is pretty much on the Ukraine side), the guy on the right is Perun (who is pretty even handed in analysis but hopes Ukraine wins)..who makes absolutely fantastic videos on the Ukraine/Russia war, highly recommend his detailed analysis..also as a side note..very sad one ...Perun has an inoperable brain tumor, so who knows how much time we have left with him. They've pretty much described Bakhmut as a destroyed city surrounded by mud roads. Both served, Speak the Truth was Army Sniper I think, Perun in the Aussie forces.

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7:50p, 4/5/23
How many days has it been since we first started hearing 'Bakhmut is a few days away from being captured'? I'm thinking around 120+.
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