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I agree that the US paying to defend Ukraine indeed is a good ROI for countries bordering Russia. They spend way less money begging for aid and funding US politicians than it would cost to defend themselves.

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I kind of view it this way.

Let's assume that you live in a small neighborhood. You have a massive arsenal and gates that will ensure that it would be difficult for any one to penetrate your defenses to commit a crime in your house. However, your neighbors do not have the means or ability to defend themselves while they are spending the amount that you, as a community agreed they would spend. There is a gang that wants to burglarize houses, rape the women living in the neighborhood, and run their drug operations in your neighbors' houses. You can just turn a blind eye and live with the consequences of your quality of life, safety, and home prices plummet while taking comfort that the gang members are staying away from your house since there are easier targets. Or you can band together, even contributing more of your resources, to protect your neighborhood. I would rather not live in a gang and crime infested neighborhood even if I have armed my house to the teeth and my house is relatively safe.

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Can we make this more realistic and add the following facts?

1) the "neighbors" are actually in a different state altogether. In fact, you are separated by a handful of states and have to fly to get there.
2) the "neighbors" absolutely did not spend the amount of money the community agreed upon.
3) the "neighbors" have just convinced one of their actual neighbors, who was aligned with the gang, to break away from the gang.
4) now, you are giving $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and weapons to help your neighbors defend their neighbor from the gang.

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I think the different state is not accurate. Crime rate in Florida has no real impact on me. Deterioration of the EU in favor of reviving the USSR has a significant impact on our quality of life.

The Eastern European NATO countries are spending the 2% and, in fact, are pushing to raise the target to 2.5%.

Not sure what you mean by the third point. Are you saying that the puppet government in Ukraine that used to be like Belarus and just another extension of Russia despite our promise that they would have complete freedom once they got rid of their nuclear weapons decided on their own to rather align with the West? If Hungary starts aligning more and more with Russia, does that mean they can also be invaded by EU?

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European Countries, with the exception of Greece, did not spend the agreed upon 2% of GDP on their military until they convinced their neighbor to stop being allies with what they perceive as a gang. They are finally starting to spend and build a military because of the threat on their border created by Ukraine leaving Russia's influence. This also coincided with Trump asking them to pay for their defense. Obviously, you clearly think Russia won't stop at an "independent" Donbass and Russia being given Crimea, where Russia house their fleet that connects to the Mediterranean. I disagree. However, like I said previously, if they break this treaty (which they would clearly be a party to), NATO should make them pay dearly.

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Kind of agree. I think Putin really wants Ukraine. Now, would he sorta like to annex some other countries? Possibly, if he could, but I think he knows he probably can't and doesn't really want them all that badly anyway. This is where the Hitler-Neville Chamberlain analogy doesn't work, for me. I recognize that others may disagree, but I think what Putin wants is a country that looks like the old USSR, from the nostalgic days of his youth.

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He wants Eastern Ukraine and Crimea. We know that for sure.

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3. Ukraine de-Nazified - or Russia will have to re-fight this battle every 5 or so years.

4. A neutral Ukraine with no NATO bases / military.

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Did Russia have to fight a "Nazified" Ukraine every 5 years before 2014 or were there no Nazis there before 2014?

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Russia did not have to fight a Nazified Ukraine every 5 years before 2014. The Nazis gained power in 2014 during the Maidan Revolution (where they helped oust the Russian friendly government and helped install the NATO friendly government). Thanks!

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And then they elected their preferred Jewish president.

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Yeah, but he's a JINO.

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I agree that the US paying to defend Ukraine indeed is a good ROI for countries bordering Russia. They spend way less money begging for aid and funding US politicians than it would cost to defend themselves.

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I kind of view it this way.

Let's assume that you live in a small neighborhood. You have a massive arsenal and gates that will ensure that it would be difficult for any one to penetrate your defenses to commit a crime in your house. However, your neighbors do not have the means or ability to defend themselves while they are spending the amount that you, as a community agreed they would spend. There is a gang that wants to burglarize houses, rape the women living in the neighborhood, and run their drug operations in your neighbors' houses. You can just turn a blind eye and live with the consequences of your quality of life, safety, and home prices plummet while taking comfort that the gang members are staying away from your house since there are easier targets. Or you can band together, even contributing more of your resources, to protect your neighborhood. I would rather not live in a gang and crime infested neighborhood even if I have armed my house to the teeth and my house is relatively safe.

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Can we make this more realistic and add the following facts?

1) the "neighbors" are actually in a different state altogether. In fact, you are separated by a handful of states and have to fly to get there.
2) the "neighbors" absolutely did not spend the amount of money the community agreed upon.
3) the "neighbors" have just convinced one of their actual neighbors, who was aligned with the gang, to break away from the gang.
4) now, you are giving $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and weapons to help your neighbors defend their neighbor from the gang.

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I think the different state is not accurate. Crime rate in Florida has no real impact on me. Deterioration of the EU in favor of reviving the USSR has a significant impact on our quality of life.

The Eastern European NATO countries are spending the 2% and, in fact, are pushing to raise the target to 2.5%.

Not sure what you mean by the third point. Are you saying that the puppet government in Ukraine that used to be like Belarus and just another extension of Russia despite our promise that they would have complete freedom once they got rid of their nuclear weapons decided on their own to rather align with the West? If Hungary starts aligning more and more with Russia, does that mean they can also be invaded by EU?

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European Countries, with the exception of Greece, did not spend the agreed upon 2% of GDP on their military until they convinced their neighbor to stop being allies with what they perceive as a gang. They are finally starting to spend and build a military because of the threat on their border created by Ukraine leaving Russia's influence. This also coincided with Trump asking them to pay for their defense. Obviously, you clearly think Russia won't stop at an "independent" Donbass and Russia being given Crimea, where Russia house their fleet that connects to the Mediterranean. I disagree. However, like I said previously, if they break this treaty (which they would clearly be a party to), NATO should make them pay dearly.

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Kind of agree. I think Putin really wants Ukraine. Now, would he sorta like to annex some other countries? Possibly, if he could, but I think he knows he probably can't and doesn't really want them all that badly anyway. This is where the Hitler-Neville Chamberlain analogy doesn't work, for me. I recognize that others may disagree, but I think what Putin wants is a country that looks like the old USSR, from the nostalgic days of his youth.

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He wants Eastern Ukraine and Crimea. We know that for sure.

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3. Ukraine de-Nazified - or Russia will have to re-fight this battle every 5 or so years.

4. A neutral Ukraine with no NATO bases / military.

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Did Russia have to fight a "Nazified" Ukraine every 5 years before 2014 or were there no Nazis there before 2014?

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Russia did not have to fight a Nazified Ukraine every 5 years before 2014. The Nazis gained power in 2014 during the Maidan Revolution (where they helped oust the Russian friendly government and helped install the NATO friendly government). Thanks!

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And then they elected their preferred Jewish president.

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Yes, the majority of Ukrainians elected Zelensky, Russia took Crimea, and the Donbass rebelled. I don't know what candidates the Nazi militias specifically voted for.

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No no no, this was part of the Nazi NATO coup. Haven't you been paying attention?

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The Nazi militias were much of the muscle that physically overtook the capital in 2014, causing the president to flee. In turn, the far right groups got reverence and a seat at the table. That doesn't mean they run Ukraine.

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How naive of you!

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The next escalation looming ahead in this war, F-16s piloted by US and NATO volunteers. The can of worms here is if/when they will use facilities in Poland or Romania for staging and maintenance operations, which would become Russian targets, potentially triggering NATO article 5...

Here’s the Biden Administration’s plan to pilot those ‘game changing’ F-16s… https://t.co/SHO7XFHGAa

— Patrick Henningsen (@21WIRE) May 30, 2023

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Russia can put Nukes in Bulgaria but NATO staging F-16s in Poland and Romania is a worrisome escalation?
This thread is simultaneously predictable and fascinating.

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I agree that the US paying to defend Ukraine indeed is a good ROI for countries bordering Russia. They spend way less money begging for aid and funding US politicians than it would cost to defend themselves.

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I kind of view it this way.

Let's assume that you live in a small neighborhood. You have a massive arsenal and gates that will ensure that it would be difficult for any one to penetrate your defenses to commit a crime in your house. However, your neighbors do not have the means or ability to defend themselves while they are spending the amount that you, as a community agreed they would spend. There is a gang that wants to burglarize houses, rape the women living in the neighborhood, and run their drug operations in your neighbors' houses. You can just turn a blind eye and live with the consequences of your quality of life, safety, and home prices plummet while taking comfort that the gang members are staying away from your house since there are easier targets. Or you can band together, even contributing more of your resources, to protect your neighborhood. I would rather not live in a gang and crime infested neighborhood even if I have armed my house to the teeth and my house is relatively safe.

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Can we make this more realistic and add the following facts?

1) the "neighbors" are actually in a different state altogether. In fact, you are separated by a handful of states and have to fly to get there.
2) the "neighbors" absolutely did not spend the amount of money the community agreed upon.
3) the "neighbors" have just convinced one of their actual neighbors, who was aligned with the gang, to break away from the gang.
4) now, you are giving $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and weapons to help your neighbors defend their neighbor from the gang.

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The calculus is extraordinarily simple. Spend money now for Ukraine to fight or have American's die later in former Soviet satellite states that are now NATO members when Putin invades them.

If we are really worried about the money then make this a Lend Lease Program with extraordinarily generous terms for Ukraine to pay us back.

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Your calculus only works if you think Russia will invade NATO, which is nuts.

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Does Putin strike you as an especially rational person? He kills political opponents, invades foreign countries and threatens nuclear war at the drop of a hat. He is an authoritarian bully operating in a system where nobody can say "no", lest they are imprisoned or jump out of a hotel window. He will do as much as he thinks he can get away with.

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I agree that the US paying to defend Ukraine indeed is a good ROI for countries bordering Russia. They spend way less money begging for aid and funding US politicians than it would cost to defend themselves.

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I kind of view it this way.

Let's assume that you live in a small neighborhood. You have a massive arsenal and gates that will ensure that it would be difficult for any one to penetrate your defenses to commit a crime in your house. However, your neighbors do not have the means or ability to defend themselves while they are spending the amount that you, as a community agreed they would spend. There is a gang that wants to burglarize houses, rape the women living in the neighborhood, and run their drug operations in your neighbors' houses. You can just turn a blind eye and live with the consequences of your quality of life, safety, and home prices plummet while taking comfort that the gang members are staying away from your house since there are easier targets. Or you can band together, even contributing more of your resources, to protect your neighborhood. I would rather not live in a gang and crime infested neighborhood even if I have armed my house to the teeth and my house is relatively safe.

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Can we make this more realistic and add the following facts?

1) the "neighbors" are actually in a different state altogether. In fact, you are separated by a handful of states and have to fly to get there.
2) the "neighbors" absolutely did not spend the amount of money the community agreed upon.
3) the "neighbors" have just convinced one of their actual neighbors, who was aligned with the gang, to break away from the gang.
4) now, you are giving $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and weapons to help your neighbors defend their neighbor from the gang.

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The calculus is extraordinarily simple. Spend money now for Ukraine to fight or have American's die later in former Soviet satellite states that are now NATO members when Putin invades them.

If we are really worried about the money then make this a Lend Lease Program with extraordinarily generous terms for Ukraine to pay us back.

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Your calculus only works if you think Russia will invade NATO, which is nuts.

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Does Putin strike you as an especially rational person? He kills political opponents, invades foreign countries and threatens nuclear war at the drop of a hat. He is an authoritarian bully operating in a system where nobody can say "no", lest they are imprisoned or jump out of a hotel window. He will do as much as he thinks he can get away with.

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He is a rational, calculating player, that's how he's managed to run his country pretty successfully for a quarter century now.

Your perception of the whole conflict is entirely shaped by a cultural anti-Russian bias, very similar to the anti-muslim bias which has driven the whole Iraq invasion narrative, or the anti-Asian depictions of the Vietnamese before that. Same elements there as well, Saddam is a madman, we have to fight them there otherwise they are going to come here, we have to destroy them before they nuke us. It's a pathology that has been fed by the media, popular culture and think tanks, full spectrum cultural brainwashing.

How many people need to say this out loud before it's clear that #Ukraine has been used by the US as a battering ram against #Russia in a proxy war, straight out of the cold war playbook? A small 🧵
1) Adam Schiff: We fight Russia over there so we don't fight Russia Here pic.twitter.com/aFfZcaFAUv

— Dr. Strangelove (@_michalis12) May 28, 2023

We've invaded 50+ countries the last few decades, we're occupying 1/3 of Syria and stealing their oil, actively preventing the country from rebuilding and their 10 million refugees from returning home.

Isn't it amazing how the United States can drop bombs on Syria, illegally occupy Syria, steal Syria's oil and scream about Ukraine's sovereignty at the same time? pic.twitter.com/rDtEP2FDAN

— sarah (@sahouraxo) May 28, 2023

What are you drinking? Russia has always said nukes were off the table, same for the USA.

Then Biden / Blinken (Obama / Hillary / Sullivan) take over, and they start prevaricating about nukes. Really sick and dangerous. I guess these diplomatic rookies think it gives them leverage or something.

Most rational people I've read estimate Putin will take the eastern third of Ukraine, giving him more security, ethnic Russians, a new manufacturing stronghold, rich deposits, and historically Russian Odessa.

Same folks estimate if the West keeps pushing, he'll go all the way to the Polish border.

Cal88: if Russia's integrated air defense systems are so great, won't the F16s be sitting ducks?

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Cal88: if Russia's integrated air defense systems are so great, won't the F16s be sitting ducks?

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The F-16s with the latest versions of fox-1 AMRAAM are a huge upgrade over the Ukrainian Mig-29s and Su-27s equipped with older radars, though they're still a bit below Russian Mig-31s and Su-57s with R37 missiles in terms of beyond visual range combat. But yes the F-16s are highly vulnerable to longer-range S-300 and S-400 missiles, which can track and intercept them from 300km-400km out. As are the AWACS operating outside Ukraine managing F-16 sorties, those would become easy targets for S-400s in case of a air battle.

NATO would be able to try to conduct A2/AD suppression missions (SEAD), but they would need a large fleet of fighters, and would have to sustain large losses in order to make a dent into Russia's very dense installations, they have up to 9,000 anti-air missiles and hundreds of launchers and radar installations.

As well the other vulnerability of F-16s in this conflict is their ground and hangar installations, and the long 2km asphalt/concrete runways that would have to be built for them to take off loaded. Most of them would be lost on the ground.

This is a really funny exchange in response to one of the twitter threads I posted yesterday. What you will find is that the shills focus on blasting out ridiculous (often conflicting claims) and just hope that no one will ever call them on it.

Delighted to. In this document on Russia going to war, you had Russian armored units overrunning not Ukraine, but multiple NATO defended nations. https://t.co/Ht0ohoP4E0

— Phillips P. OBrien (@PhillipsPOBrien) May 30, 2023

And you argued Russia would quickly occupy all of Ukraine east of the Dnipro in early 2022. Russian ‘military capabilities and manpower would allow it to occupy a sizeable chunk of Ukraine, even as far as the Dnieper river which runs through the middle of the country.’

— Phillips P. OBrien (@PhillipsPOBrien) May 30, 2023

That comes from here. https://t.co/eY8XTzcQ9b

— Phillips P. OBrien (@PhillipsPOBrien) May 30, 2023

Yeh but apart from that

— Captain Haddock (@JXB101) May 30, 2023

Here's a message from Putin. I think it should be mentioned how impressive this public message is because he obviously has to go pee (or has some sort of neurological problem that causes him to shake constantly) and yet manages to stay on task with his anti-Ukraine messaging. Remember - anyone who has anything negative to say about Russia is a terrible bigot but it's perfectly reasonable to think that Ukrainians all all inhuman nazis that would be lucky to have Russia steal their country.

Putin* got out of his bunker to say the Moscow air defence operated satisfyingly stopping the drone attack this morning, though areas of improvement remain. When it comes to Russia's richest people's houses, it was important for Putin to make a statement and reassure them.

He… pic.twitter.com/rl1ilKdH0M

— Dmitri (@wartranslated) May 30, 2023

In fairness, some propagandists are starting to question the false narratives.

Russian propagandists discuss not having enough air defense in Russia.

As the saying goes: from "Kyiv in three days" to "Russia needs more air defense" pic.twitter.com/z2tbIHz3Ec

— Anton Gerashchenko (@Gerashchenko_en) May 30, 2023

An angry statement from Prigozhin regarding the unexplained incident with unidentified UAVs that crashed in Moscow this morning. pic.twitter.com/NJ4ZPaoPM9

— Dmitri (@wartranslated) May 30, 2023

And for fun, here's some more evidence of pre-offensive efforts from Ukraine.

The first confirmed photo of the destroyed Russian command post of the S-400 Triumph air defense system 55K6E. As stated, it was destroyed on the territory of the Kherson region with the help of the HIMARS, somewhere in the 20th of May 2023. pic.twitter.com/3N6i8KDTek

— Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love) May 30, 2023

The Saudis are getting pissed at Russia for not respecting the agreed upon crude oil production cuts by OPEC+ back in early April.

OPEC+ meets in Vienna on June 4th.

Former US Senator Richard Black is confident that Russia has already won the biggest battle in Europe since 1945.

"Russia has won the biggest battle in Europe since WWII. Western media are in no hurry to admit Ukrainian defeat.

— Trollstoy (@Trollstoy88) May 30, 2023

But it looks like Zelensky has lost control of the city, suffering massive losses in manpower and equipment,"

— Trollstoy (@Trollstoy88) May 30, 2023

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Former US Senator Richard Black is confident that Russia has already won the biggest battle in Europe since 1945.

"Russia has won the biggest battle in Europe since WWII. Western media are in no hurry to admit Ukrainian defeat.

— Trollstoy (@Trollstoy88) May 30, 2023

But it looks like Zelensky has lost control of the city, suffering massive losses in manpower and equipment,"

— Trollstoy (@Trollstoy88) May 30, 2023

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Nice of Trollstoy88 to promote Dick from state Senator to US Senator. Impressive adherence to facts.

From Wikipedia "(Dick) has made appearances on Russian, Israeli, and Chinese state run and Hezbollah-affilated media critiquing US foreign policy".

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Former US Senator Richard Black is confident that Russia has already won the biggest battle in Europe since 1945.

"Russia has won the biggest battle in Europe since WWII. Western media are in no hurry to admit Ukrainian defeat.

— Trollstoy (@Trollstoy88) May 30, 2023

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Every day here, you demonstrate how terribly ignorant you are.
Along with the "other" three people that star your posts.
Dick Black is a Virginia STATE senator.

Duh.

Dick Black (politician) - Wikipedia

That doesn't change the fact that his statement is correct, Bakhmut has been the biggest military battle in Europe since WW2.

Couple of related points.

First - reports on the corruption scandal in the Russian MOD. Turns out being a corrupt kleptocracy has a big impact on your military bang for buck. I previously noted how the hypersonic missile scientists were being prosecuted, presumably to scapegoat them for its failure to deliver. The thread below talks about prosecution for the sort of graft that results in wildly underperforming defense systems.

1/ Russia's missile defence system is supposed to be able to detect a football-sized object from 8,000 km away. However, corruption is said to have left it "full of holes" and the head of Russia's Space Forces may now face prosecution, as a scandal at the Russian MOD deepens. ⬇️ pic.twitter.com/3LlILKxi6S

— ChrisO_wiki (@ChrisO_wiki) May 31, 2023

2/ I've previously highlighted the scandal, which has reportedly spawned a separate investigation into corruption in Russia's National Defence Control Centre (NDCC) that has led to the arrest of Major General Vyacheslav Lobuzko.https://t.co/8vZAqkwABw

— ChrisO_wiki (@ChrisO_wiki) May 31, 2023

4/ The VChK-OGPU Telegram channel reports that an inspection revealed a wide divergence between the performance claimed by the radar's manufacturer, RTI Systems, and the actual performance. This, however, is said to have been known about in the MOD but was covered up. pic.twitter.com/4BfBJvYsYA

— ChrisO_wiki (@ChrisO_wiki) May 31, 2023

And of course, the upshot from having garbage underperforming defenses, is that it allowed a wealthy neighborhood in Moscow to come under air attack. But don't worry, Russian propaganda has been really explicit with the media on how best to cover this and since they don't have a free press they are forced to comply.

2/ The independent Russian news outlet Meduza reports that "the pro-government media have been told how to cover the drone attack on Moscow: to highlight the 'successful air defence work' and emphasise that the goals of the 'provocation' have not been achieved."

— ChrisO_wiki (@ChrisO_wiki) May 31, 2023

4/ ✹ point out that the reaction of the 'federal services' and the leadership of Moscow and the Moscow region was 'instantaneous' and the work was 'qualitative and focused';

✹ emphasise that the objectives of the 'provocation' were not achieved;

— ChrisO_wiki (@ChrisO_wiki) May 31, 2023

6/ Meduza also reports that if critical comments on the drone attack by State Duma deputy Alexander Khinstein, Alexey Rogozin (son of former Roscosmos head Dmitry Rogozin) and nationalist militant / online gadfly Igor Girkin are to be cited, "then only in a negative light." /end

— ChrisO_wiki (@ChrisO_wiki) May 31, 2023

It's also one of the reasons the Ukrainians have been so successful with storm shadow missiles. Russia is a paper tiger but it turns out that you can't just win a war with laughable propaganda.

Destruction of a Russian military base in Yur'ivka, near Mariupol, two days ago. Amusing commentary from a local complaining about the lack of air defence. pic.twitter.com/sShHJdobCo

— Dmitri (@wartranslated) May 30, 2023

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western region of Ukraine.

Earlier, the American colonel noticed signs that Poland, Finland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania will become the second echelon of countries that will go to war with Russia. pic.twitter.com/YYSJ1erBDR

— Djole 🇷🇸 (@onlydjole) May 30, 2023

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MacGregor is an absolute idiot.

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western region of Ukraine.

Earlier, the American colonel noticed signs that Poland, Finland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania will become the second echelon of countries that will go to war with Russia. pic.twitter.com/YYSJ1erBDR

— Djole 🇷🇸 (@onlydjole) May 30, 2023

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MacGregor is an absolute idiot.

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He's a useful idiot to Putin.

How Russia Uses Retired US Colonel's Ukraine Misinformation for Domestic Propaganda

After your head stops shaking, tell me why the Battle of Bakhmut was so important.

Because we know that if the Russian army goes against the Ukranian army, straight on, they are probably going to win because superior forces. But why was winning in Bakhmut so important? What Russia needs to do is to take strategic areas and then hold them, long term, whereas Ukraine just needs to keep them from doing that.

Honestly, I am getting a little sick of one side here saying how Russia is totally winning... and the other side saying how Ukraine is totally winning. Partisan assessments?

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After your head stops shaking, tell me why the Battle of Bakhmut was so important.

Because we know that if the Russian army goes against the Ukranian army, straight on, they are probably going to win because superior forces. But why was winning in Bakhmut so important? What Russia needs to do is to take strategic areas and then hold them, long term, whereas Ukraine just needs to keep them from doing that.

Honestly, I am getting a little sick of one side here saying how Russia is totally winning... and the other side saying how Ukraine is totally winning. Partisan assessments?

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Being the biggest battle since WWII is one thing, importance another.

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Can you name some other battles in Europe since WW2?

This is sort of like claiming we had the heaviest snowfall in San Francisco since 1900. There aren't many such events to compare it to.

Most of the stuff posted by U2S is absurdly false, he is so emotionally invested in the Ukrainian narrative that he has no truth filter or judgment on all things Ukraine, like the story of the 3 Russian rocket scientists being prosecuted because the Kinzhal hypersonic missile allegedly misfunctoned, that prosecution actually started a year or two ago. The Kinzhal has performed very well to date, and its production has been stepped up.

Meanwhile south of the border, our righteous allies from Kyiv have apparently set up some nice side deals with the Mexican cartels, who are now sporting the latest in US anti armored weaponry, the Javelin -Slava Ukraini!...

Mexican TV reports that dozens of U.S. AT-4 weapons systems, which were originally shipped to Ukraine, have been purchased by Cartel Golfo in Mexico.pic.twitter.com/3QcHZann1o

— Citizen Free Press (@CitizenFreePres) June 1, 2023

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Watch yourself, child.

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Yogi, you used your first post on your new burner account to vaguely threaten someone? Seriously?

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western region of Ukraine.

Earlier, the American colonel noticed signs that Poland, Finland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania will become the second echelon of countries that will go to war with Russia. pic.twitter.com/YYSJ1erBDR

— Djole 🇷🇸 (@onlydjole) May 30, 2023

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MacGregor is an absolute idiot.

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You mean a military historian and author of five books whose novel and new military strategies pique the interest of Israel and others. An actual field commander, not a social 'scientist'.

Idiot arguably and justly falls to the likes of Hunter Biden and Anthony Blinken.

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He has a proven track record as a military tactician. That skill is totally and completely unrelated to politics and the like. Many of the things he says are asinine, removed from logic and reality. He is the classic example of a highly educated person or person that is highly skilled in one area, who is functionally stupid in key other areas.

Promoting the idea that Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Finland and Estonia are going to attack Russia should result in MacGregor being put in a corner with a dunce cap on, never to be heard from again.