movielover said:

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The Hill: RFK Jr. says Russia 'acting in good faith' in Ukraine invasion, US in part to blame for war

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BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!

Another idiot.

RFK RIP.

All those ridiculous takes, and as of now:

1) Prighozin and Wagner left Rostov with people cheering for both them and Putin.

2) Russians still LOVE Putin, HATE America.

3) Putin is still in power and more popular than any U.S. leader, including the president, among their…

— Rich Baris "The People's Pundit" (@Peoples_Pundit) June 25, 2023

What's it like to get DUPED by one of the dumbest posts on Twitter ever?

And you thought this GUY was transgender?

BWAHAHAHAHHAAAAAA!

UKRO Nazi's.

Watch Ukrainian commander in Kyiv getting into Hummer with Balkenkreuz vehicle insignias.

The Balkenkreuz "beam cross" or "bar cross" was used by Nazi Germany.

Starting price of Hummer is around $80K, your tax dollars paid for it and also paying for his huge gas bill. pic.twitter.com/NFoWsd3te1

— I Meme Therefore I Am 🇺🇸 (@ImMeme0) June 25, 2023

^ It's much easier to stay on schedule if you have one of those, AntiochWags.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/bipolar-disorder/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20355961#:~:text=You'll%20typically%20need%20mood,)%20and%20lamotrigine%20(Lamictal).

You'll typically need mood-stabilizing medication to control manic or hypomanic episodes. If symptoms of depression or mania persist in spite of treatment with other medications, adding an antipsychotic drug may help. Your doctor may prescribe some of these medications alone or along with a mood stabilizer. Your doctor may add an antidepressant to help manage depression. Because an antidepressant can sometimes trigger a manic episode, it's usually prescribed along with a mood stabilizer or antipsychotic.

10% For The Big Guy said:

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sycasey said:

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Unit2Sucks said:

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Big C said:

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Putin no longer qualifies as a "peacetime leader" and it's his own fault. He's not looking so competent lately.

Why in the world do people defend this guy?

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Variety of reasons - some are paid, some are radicalized and some are just incredibly gullible.

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Weirdos on the right wing are under the impression that a fascistic strongman like Putin is the person who will reveal the rot and decadence of the West, in particular all the things conservatives don't like: gays, trans people, women in the workplace (especially the military), racial integration, etc. That notion should have been put to rest by the absolute s***show we are seeing when the supposedly "strong" Russia tries to attack a nation half its size. But I'm sure these weirdos will soldier on with their dumb arguments anyway.

Weirdos on the left wing just see everything through a prism of "America bad." Since the United States is the most powerful nation and therefore the power that must be opposed, they bend and twist every bad thing into being the fault of American foreign policy, even if it doesn't actually make sense to blame the US (like for the Ukraine invasion). These people also don't think very hard about anything.

That these two sides come together to take the side of Vladimir f***ing Putin is the dumbest possible result of Horseshoe Theory.

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Horseshoe Theory is a theory created by centrists to justify why nobody should ever vote against the status quo. Generally employed by liberals embarrassed to admit they support right-wing policies.

The US is a great place to find "centrists" who espouse invasions, again depending on who does it, as well as "centrists" who want a police state

I could spend a whole thread on why horseshoe theory is nonsense but I will stick to just 2 pointshttps://t.co/5k6kIrglQ3

— Joshua Collins (@InvisiblesMuros) September 6, 2022

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I'll tell you what, Yogi. At one time I also thought Horseshoe Theory was nonsense. Then this Ukraine war had to come along and prove that it exists. Self-proclaimed "leftists" constantly simping for a war-mongering dictator, just because he opposes America. It's ludicrous.

Obama: "there's a reason why there wasn't an armed invasion of Crimea".

I've made this observation over and over. And always get arguments. Nice to hear Obama make the point. https://t.co/AzxLfgydjm

— Stephen McIntyre (@ClimateAudit) June 26, 2023

Are you able to exercise any restraint? My God, can you just post your own opinion instead of these unreadable posts of multiple twitter posts? How about just one link?


...and worse is those who respond and re-post these original posts with all the tweets repeating in the thread. You don't need to reply with the attached mile long original post.

Cal88 said:

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Another time where Obama showed some lucidity and leadership was when he appeared to renege on his stated red line of chemical weapons use in Syria in 2013. He didn't react to the false flag sarin gas attack in Ghouta, Syria, made by jihadis backed by Turkish intelligence and pinned on the Syrian army in order to escalate US military involvement:

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Accumulating evidence offers persuasive proof that Syrian rebels supported by Turkish intelligence - not Syrian Army troops - bear responsibility for the infamous sarin nerve-gas attack killing hundreds of people on Aug. 21, 2013 in Ghouta, a suburb of Damascus. The incident bears all the earmarks of a false-flag attack.

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https://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/12/12/syrian-sarin-false-flag-lesson

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No, Assad gassed his own people. But I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you are once again taking Putin's position on something.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghouta_chemical_attack

sycasey said:

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10% For The Big Guy said:

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sycasey said:

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Unit2Sucks said:

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Big C said:

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Putin no longer qualifies as a "peacetime leader" and it's his own fault. He's not looking so competent lately.

Why in the world do people defend this guy?

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Variety of reasons - some are paid, some are radicalized and some are just incredibly gullible.

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Weirdos on the right wing are under the impression that a fascistic strongman like Putin is the person who will reveal the rot and decadence of the West, in particular all the things conservatives don't like: gays, trans people, women in the workplace (especially the military), racial integration, etc. That notion should have been put to rest by the absolute s***show we are seeing when the supposedly "strong" Russia tries to attack a nation half its size. But I'm sure these weirdos will soldier on with their dumb arguments anyway.

Weirdos on the left wing just see everything through a prism of "America bad." Since the United States is the most powerful nation and therefore the power that must be opposed, they bend and twist every bad thing into being the fault of American foreign policy, even if it doesn't actually make sense to blame the US (like for the Ukraine invasion). These people also don't think very hard about anything.

That these two sides come together to take the side of Vladimir f***ing Putin is the dumbest possible result of Horseshoe Theory.

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Horseshoe Theory is a theory created by centrists to justify why nobody should ever vote against the status quo. Generally employed by liberals embarrassed to admit they support right-wing policies.

The US is a great place to find "centrists" who espouse invasions, again depending on who does it, as well as "centrists" who want a police state

I could spend a whole thread on why horseshoe theory is nonsense but I will stick to just 2 pointshttps://t.co/5k6kIrglQ3

— Joshua Collins (@InvisiblesMuros) September 6, 2022

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I'll tell you what, Yogi. At one time I also thought Horseshoe Theory was nonsense. Then this Ukraine war had to come along and prove that it exists. Self-proclaimed "leftists" constantly simping for a war-mongering dictator, just because he opposes America. It's ludicrous.

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It's worth asking why so many Americans hate Russia.

It's *not* because they invaded a country, since most beloved establishment leaders (starting with Biden) have done that repeatedly.

For GOP hawks, it's reflexive jingoism. For Dems, they blame Putin for Hillary's loss.

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) June 26, 2023

20 years ago, you pretended to be against war, but the truth is that you were just mad about Gore. Now you are for war, but it has nothing to do with Ukrainian sovereignty. You're just mad about Hillary.

It's not everyone else that changed. It's you and your fellow moderate Democrats who welcomed the neocons into their party and support their pro-war policies because Democrats tell you to and you can't think for yourself so you support what they tell you to support.

The US is not at war!

We are arming a nation that wants to fight for its freedom. How can anyone be against this? If you believe Putin when he says he wants to reunify the USSR this is obviously in our national interest - we support Ukraine now or face a legal obligation to put troops on the ground when Putin invades a NATO member.

Nobody is in favor of war; we wish Putin withdrew his troops from Ukraine yesterday.

10% For The Big Guy said:

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sycasey said:

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10% For The Big Guy said:

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sycasey said:

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Unit2Sucks said:

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Big C said:

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Putin no longer qualifies as a "peacetime leader" and it's his own fault. He's not looking so competent lately.

Why in the world do people defend this guy?

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Variety of reasons - some are paid, some are radicalized and some are just incredibly gullible.

---

Weirdos on the right wing are under the impression that a fascistic strongman like Putin is the person who will reveal the rot and decadence of the West, in particular all the things conservatives don't like: gays, trans people, women in the workplace (especially the military), racial integration, etc. That notion should have been put to rest by the absolute s***show we are seeing when the supposedly "strong" Russia tries to attack a nation half its size. But I'm sure these weirdos will soldier on with their dumb arguments anyway.

Weirdos on the left wing just see everything through a prism of "America bad." Since the United States is the most powerful nation and therefore the power that must be opposed, they bend and twist every bad thing into being the fault of American foreign policy, even if it doesn't actually make sense to blame the US (like for the Ukraine invasion). These people also don't think very hard about anything.

That these two sides come together to take the side of Vladimir f***ing Putin is the dumbest possible result of Horseshoe Theory.

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Horseshoe Theory is a theory created by centrists to justify why nobody should ever vote against the status quo. Generally employed by liberals embarrassed to admit they support right-wing policies.

The US is a great place to find "centrists" who espouse invasions, again depending on who does it, as well as "centrists" who want a police state

I could spend a whole thread on why horseshoe theory is nonsense but I will stick to just 2 pointshttps://t.co/5k6kIrglQ3

— Joshua Collins (@InvisiblesMuros) September 6, 2022

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I'll tell you what, Yogi. At one time I also thought Horseshoe Theory was nonsense. Then this Ukraine war had to come along and prove that it exists. Self-proclaimed "leftists" constantly simping for a war-mongering dictator, just because he opposes America. It's ludicrous.

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It's worth asking why so many Americans hate Russia.

It's *not* because they invaded a country, since most beloved establishment leaders (starting with Biden) have done that repeatedly.

For GOP hawks, it's reflexive jingoism. For Dems, they blame Putin for Hillary's loss.

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) June 26, 2023

20 years ago, you pretended to be against war, but the truth is that you were just mad about Gore. Now you are for war, but it has nothing to do with Ukrainian sovereignty. You're just mad about Hillary.

It's not everyone else that changed. It's you and your fellow moderate Democrats who welcomed the neocons into their party and support their pro-war policies because Democrats tell you to and you can't think for yourself so you support what they tell you to support.

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No, I am against the person who started the war and the only person who can end the war: Putin.

Same was true when it was the Bush Administration's fault.

tequila4kapp said:

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The US is not at war!

We are arming a nation that wants to fight for its freedom. How can anyone be against this? If you believe Putin when he says he wants to reunify the USSR this is obviously in our national interest - we support Ukraine now or face a legal obligation to put troops on the ground when Putin invades a NATO member.

Nobody is in favor of war; we wish Putin withdrew his troops from Ukraine yesterday.

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Proxy war

1. Ukraine is not a strategic military interest to the U.S. unlike Taiwan and South Korea in Asia for example
2. We are not the world's police force and are in serious debt

Lots of people who complain about exiting the Afghanistan War claim they are anti-war and the rest of us are pro war. Those people are noodle brained.

You have to go back to Clinton to find America at such relative peace.

Biden withdrew troops from Afghanistan but most of the heavy fighting stopped way before that. And for some reason, the withdrawal process was backwards. He closed a strategic airbase, freed the prisoners, withdrew most of the troops, and then withdrew civilians while leaving our gear for the enemy.

sycasey said:

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Cal88 said:

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Another time where Obama showed some lucidity and leadership was when he appeared to renege on his stated red line of chemical weapons use in Syria in 2013. He didn't react to the false flag sarin gas attack in Ghouta, Syria, made by jihadis backed by Turkish intelligence and pinned on the Syrian army in order to escalate US military involvement:

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Accumulating evidence offers persuasive proof that Syrian rebels supported by Turkish intelligence - not Syrian Army troops - bear responsibility for the infamous sarin nerve-gas attack killing hundreds of people on Aug. 21, 2013 in Ghouta, a suburb of Damascus. The incident bears all the earmarks of a false-flag attack.

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https://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/12/12/syrian-sarin-false-flag-lesson

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No, Assad gassed his own people. But I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you are once again taking Putin's position on something.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghouta_chemical_attack

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Wikipedia...sure. If Assad had really done it, gassing Ghouta, which was about to fall, at the very end of a long battle that he had already all but won, Obama would have had to intervene. The reason Obama didn't is that he knew the sarin gas attack was done by the moderate headchoppers, backed by Turkish intel. Assad had zero incentive to do such a thing, and everything to lose from such an attack while his troops (the Syrian army) had won that battle and pushed back the jihadis outside of Damascus.

We have had the same pattern in Ukraine, with the Nordstream bombing, the dam bombing and attacks on the Zaporizhia nuclear powerplant (all Russian held assets) that have been blamed on Russia.

tequila4kapp said:

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The US is not at war!

We are arming a nation that wants to fight for its freedom. How can anyone be against this? If you believe Putin when he says he wants to reunify the USSR this is obviously in our national interest - we support Ukraine now or face a legal obligation to put troops on the ground when Putin invades a NATO member.

Nobody is in favor of war; we wish Putin withdrew his troops from Ukraine yesterday.

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Putin doesn't want to "reunify the USSR", he just doesn't want NATO at his borders, and a hostile, nuclear-armed Banderist regime in Ukraine killing ethnic Russians by the thousands, as happened in 2014-2021.

Ukraine wants to fight for its freedom the same way South Vietnam or Afghanistan wanted to fight for theirs, do we have to wait for the body count to reach a million plus in Ukraine too in order to consider pulling the plug on this bloody war?

Most of the Ukrainians who wanted to fight Russia for ideological reasons are already dead. The great majority of Ukrainians want a settlement with Russia and their large Russian majority, that's the platform Zelensky run on before he did a 180.

Those are the Ukrainians being sent to the front today:

This is what desperation looks like:

It is now so obvious that the huge losses in the Ukrainian counter offensive need to be compensated somehow.

(Mobilisation in Ukraine) pic.twitter.com/I6X5cZn0fo

— Richard (@ricwe123) June 18, 2023

This looks real as hell, not good

Ukrainians from the 59th Brigade blew up their own comrades after they fled their positions and refused to go back.

The fate of the demolition brothers is unknown. pic.twitter.com/tCIs9RBWQQ

— 🇺🇦 What's the media hiding? (@narrative_hole) June 26, 2023

“I do not know the plans of our government, but it looks like the extermination of its own population” — Ukrainian soldier on Bakhmut pic.twitter.com/kjkpmOxwPI

— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) June 25, 2023

Polish office explained that unwillingly conscripted Ukrainian soldiers sometimes injure themselves or do stupid things to avoid the front.

—> This is why previously only the volunteers were sent for NATO training. But they all are … pic.twitter.com/3SRXfUUeNW

— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) June 25, 2023

Cal88 said:

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sycasey said:

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Cal88 said:

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Another time where Obama showed some lucidity and leadership was when he appeared to renege on his stated red line of chemical weapons use in Syria in 2013. He didn't react to the false flag sarin gas attack in Ghouta, Syria, made by jihadis backed by Turkish intelligence and pinned on the Syrian army in order to escalate US military involvement:

Quote:

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Accumulating evidence offers persuasive proof that Syrian rebels supported by Turkish intelligence - not Syrian Army troops - bear responsibility for the infamous sarin nerve-gas attack killing hundreds of people on Aug. 21, 2013 in Ghouta, a suburb of Damascus. The incident bears all the earmarks of a false-flag attack.

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https://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/12/12/syrian-sarin-false-flag-lesson

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No, Assad gassed his own people. But I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you are once again taking Putin's position on something.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghouta_chemical_attack

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Wikipedia...sure.

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Full UN investigation, sure.

dajo9 said:

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Lots of people who complain about exiting the Afghanistan War claim they are anti-war and the rest of us are pro war. Those people are noodle brained.

You have to go back to Clinton to find America at such relative peace.

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Under President Trump we had peace and prosperity.

Under Joe Biden we have an open proxy war with Russia; 300,000-plus dead Ukrainians; talk of nuclear war; Russia's military monumentally strengthened; a denuded NATO and EU; and the US ammo stores are tapped. No bueno.

movielover said:

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dajo9 said:

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Lots of people who complain about exiting the Afghanistan War claim they are anti-war and the rest of us are pro war. Those people are noodle brained.

You have to go back to Clinton to find America at such relative peace.

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Under President Trump we had peace and prosperity.

Under Joe Biden we have an open proxy war with Russia; 300,000-plus dead Ukrainians; talk of nuclear war; Russia's military monumentally strengthened; a denuded NATO and EU; and the US ammo stores are tapped. No bueno.

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Sometimes I think Republicans live in some sort of Bizarro world.

Yes, the Bizarro world of facts.

President Biden confessed yesterday that he sells state secrets.

movielover said:

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dajo9 said:

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Lots of people who complain about exiting the Afghanistan War claim they are anti-war and the rest of us are pro war. Those people are noodle brained.

You have to go back to Clinton to find America at such relative peace.

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Under President Trump we had peace and prosperity.

Under Joe Biden we have an open proxy war with Russia; 300,000-plus dead Ukrainians; talk of nuclear war; Russia's military monumentally strengthened; a denuded NATO and EU; and the US ammo stores are tapped. No bueno.

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Under Trump we were at war in Afghanistan and Russia was far stronger than they are today

Trump wanted to get out from both Afghanistan and Syria, was sandbagged and lied to by the MIC blob.

Russia is stronger today, handled the war without its economy skipping a beat, made diplomatic gains around the world, and is also militarily stronger with tools and weapons it didn't have before the war. It will come out even stronger as it is winning the war in Ukraine.

Mearsheimer: the balance of power has shifted towards Russia

Cal88 said:

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Trump wanted to get out from both Afghanistan and Syria, was sandbagged and lied to by the MIC blob.

Russia is stronger today, handled the war without its economy skipping a beat, made diplomatic gains around the world, and is also militarily stronger with tools and weapons it didn't have before the war. It will come out even stronger as it is winning the war in Ukraine.

Mearsheimer: the balance of power has shifted towards Russia

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We are familiar with the argument you all keep making that Trump was too weak of a President to do what he wanted. I'm glad we have a strong Commander in Chief now.

Zelensky has banned opposition political parties

He arrested political opponents

He banned all unfriendly media

He shut down Orthodox churches

And now there will be no Presidential election next year

At what point we call him what he is?

A dictator
pic.twitter.com/jFSathORbT

— DC_Draino (@DC_Draino) June 25, 2023

Speaking of strong Commander in Chiefs.....

Did you spike dajos punch at the Big Game?

Russia may have the strongest military in the world now, including experienced soldiers and commanders.

dajo9 said:

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Cal88 said:

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Trump wanted to get out from both Afghanistan and Syria, was sandbagged and lied to by the MIC blob.

Russia is stronger today, handled the war without its economy skipping a beat, made diplomatic gains around the world, and is also militarily stronger with tools and weapons it didn't have before the war. It will come out even stronger as it is winning the war in Ukraine.

Mearsheimer: the balance of power has shifted towards Russia

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We are familiar with the argument you all keep making that Trump was too weak of a President to do what he wanted. I'm glad we have a strong Commander in Chief now.

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Trump did block plans to attack Iran during his tenure, which would have been the biggest US war since Vietnam. As to Biden, you have to be really naive to think that he is really "there", his cabinet is a black box, no one knows exactly who is running that show.

Which is why Colonel Douglass McGregor refers to hom as a cutout. Lots of BHO and HRC people in place.

Obama had lunch today with the cutout, and had one of the few people he trusts, CYO memo drafter Susan "by the book" Rice - in Biden's inner circle.

Note: President Trump blocked the MIC and neocon plans to go to war with Iran at least three times.