The Official Russian Invasion of Ukraine Thread

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One of Trump's greatest achievements could be driving the neocons out of the Republican Party.
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bear2034 said:


One of Trump's greatest achievements could be driving the neocons out of the Republican Party.

Trump takes hundreds of millions from neocons, you're going to see Pompeo, Haley, Bolton, Kushner et al back in action next year.
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Nope.
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Yeah, tRump ain't going to defeat defense contractors. They need to make stuff that then gets used and then they make more stuff.
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The warrior for peace.
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tRump will get his beak wet in every defense contract.
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He's already a Billionaire, so he has FU money Cruz, Rubio, Biden, Clinton, Obama and others never had, or will have.
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movielover said:

He's already a Billionaire, so he has FU money Cruz, Rubio, Biden, Clinton, Obama and others never had, or will have.

Yeah, so if he gets reelected, he will spend his second term making America great again, right?

Flash back 25 years, this is why my Ukranian friends said that people in their country always vote for the incumbent, the second time around.

Bottom line: billionaires, in most cases, can never get enough. That is an understatement for "populist" Trump.
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Cal88 said:

bear2034 said:


One of Trump's greatest achievements could be driving the neocons out of the Republican Party.

Trump takes hundreds of millions from neocons, you're going to see Pompeo, Haley, Bolton, Kushner et al back in action next year.

Bolton spooked Kim and Putin?
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OK. but
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Cal88 said:

OK. but
I hope not. Ben might know people but he's not in Trump's larger circle.
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Big C said:

movielover said:

He's already a Billionaire, so he has FU money Cruz, Rubio, Biden, Clinton, Obama and others never had, or will have.

Yeah, so if he gets reelected, he will spend his second term making America great again, right?

Flash back 25 years, this is why my Ukranian friends said that people in their country always vote for the incumbent, the second time around.

Bottom line: billionaires, in most cases, can never get enough. That is an understatement for "populist" Trump.
I saw a video last night from CNN that showed that Trump, between legal judgements and real estate, has 1.8 billion dollars in personal debt. In one or two cases, he needs to refinance the debt coming due on office towers in the next year and the value of the buildings are less than the mortgage he needs, so that's going to be a problem finding a bank to refinance them. So, he may be a billionaire but he also owes billions. They speculated that he may liquidate his Truth Social stock to cover it.
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Big C said:

movielover said:

He's already a Billionaire, so he has FU money Cruz, Rubio, Biden, Clinton, Obama and others never had, or will have.

Yeah, so if he gets reelected, he will spend his second term making America great again, right?

Flash back 25 years, this is why my Ukranian friends said that people in their country always vote for the incumbent, the second time around.

Bottom line: billionaires, in most cases, can never get enough. That is an understatement for "populist" Trump.

Democrats mock Trump and his lawsuits, and the time, money, and energy wasted on them. But you're saying his motivation is financial greed. People's motivations are usually mixed but even the corporate media haven't taken this approach to criticize Trump this election cycle.

Meanwhile, the Biden crime family have financial connections to Ukraine and big tech suppressed this information in the last election!
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

Big C said:

movielover said:

He's already a Billionaire, so he has FU money Cruz, Rubio, Biden, Clinton, Obama and others never had, or will have.

Yeah, so if he gets reelected, he will spend his second term making America great again, right?

Flash back 25 years, this is why my Ukranian friends said that people in their country always vote for the incumbent, the second time around.

Bottom line: billionaires, in most cases, can never get enough. That is an understatement for "populist" Trump.
I saw a video last night from CNN that showed that Trump, between legal judgements and real estate, has 1.8 billion dollars in personal debt. In one or two cases, he needs to refinance the debt coming due on office towers in the next year and the value of the buildings are less than the mortgage he needs, so that's going to be a problem finding a bank to refinance them. So, he may be a billionaire but he also owes billions. They speculated that he may liquidate his Truth Social stock to cover it.


One of Trump's judgments will likely be reduced significantly. Also, Trump owns about 6 billion dollars worth of truth social. Even if that cuts in half by the time he sell all of it, that is substantial.
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oski003 said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

Big C said:

movielover said:

He's already a Billionaire, so he has FU money Cruz, Rubio, Biden, Clinton, Obama and others never had, or will have.

Yeah, so if he gets reelected, he will spend his second term making America great again, right?

Flash back 25 years, this is why my Ukranian friends said that people in their country always vote for the incumbent, the second time around.

Bottom line: billionaires, in most cases, can never get enough. That is an understatement for "populist" Trump.
I saw a video last night from CNN that showed that Trump, between legal judgements and real estate, has 1.8 billion dollars in personal debt. In one or two cases, he needs to refinance the debt coming due on office towers in the next year and the value of the buildings are less than the mortgage he needs, so that's going to be a problem finding a bank to refinance them. So, he may be a billionaire but he also owes billions. They speculated that he may liquidate his Truth Social stock to cover it.


One of Trump's judgments will likely be reduced significantly. Also, Trump owns about 6 billion dollars worth of truth social. Even if that cuts in half by the time he sell all of it, that is substantial.
The Truth Social stock has tanked 41% in the last 3 days. Trump has lost 2.4 billion dollars in value. He'd better get rid of it quick.
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Musk buying Twitter and reducing censorship on that platform has ended up making Truth Social a lot less attractive.
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Cal88 said:

Musk buying Twitter and reducing censorship on that platform has ended up making Truth Social a lot less attractive.
Musk has owned Twitter for two years. It's just now making Truth Social unattractive?
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Any truth to the rumor that some of the elite NK troops have had a taste of Ukrainian hospitality?
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

Cal88 said:

Musk buying Twitter and reducing censorship on that platform has ended up making Truth Social a lot less attractive.
Musk has owned Twitter for two years. It's just now making Truth Social unattractive?

Perhaps the sudden change is due to recent data being released about Truth Social user metrics?

Interesting question: what would be the effect of Trump being elected on the value of TS? I would guess it would go up, so maybe the stock price drop is the market believing that his odds of winning have declined?
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bearister said:

Any truth to the rumor that some of the elite NK troops have had a taste of Ukrainian hospitality?

Last I've heard NK has 11,000 troops training in eastern Russia near Vladivostok, close to their border.

I would guess North Koreans want to learn new drone-based warfare on the Ukraine front, so you will probably see some of their battalions there soon.

I think as well the NK story is also a bit of a smokescreen as the main story now is the increase in the pace of Russian advances across the board.
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Cal88 said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

Cal88 said:

Musk buying Twitter and reducing censorship on that platform has ended up making Truth Social a lot less attractive.
Musk has owned Twitter for two years. It's just now making Truth Social unattractive?

Perhaps the sudden change is due to recent data being released about Truth Social user metrics?

Interesting question: what would be the effect of Trump being elected on the value of TS? I would guess it would go up, so maybe the stock price drop is the market believing that his odds of winning have declined?


The price squeezed when it was revealed that Trump is favored to win the election. The squeeze has stopped so it is people taking process and it getting shorted down.
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bear2034 said:

Big C said:

movielover said:

He's already a Billionaire, so he has FU money Cruz, Rubio, Biden, Clinton, Obama and others never had, or will have.

Yeah, so if he gets reelected, he will spend his second term making America great again, right?

Flash back 25 years, this is why my Ukranian friends said that people in their country always vote for the incumbent, the second time around.

Bottom line: billionaires, in most cases, can never get enough. That is an understatement for "populist" Trump.

Democrats mock Trump and his lawsuits, and the time, money, and energy wasted on them. But you're saying his motivation is financial greed. People's motivations are usually mixed but even the corporate media haven't taken this approach to criticize Trump this election cycle.

Meanwhile, the Biden crime family have financial connections to Ukraine and big tech suppressed this information in the last election!

Trump's motivations are financial greed, lust for personal power, obsession with his image and a strong desire to keep his azz out of jail. Not saying "wanting to help his country" might not be a distant 5th place there, but no higher than that).
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Big C said:




Trump's motivations are financial greed, lust for personal power, obsession with his image and a strong desire to keep his azz out of jail. Not saying "wanting to help his country" might not be a distant 5th place there, but no higher than that).

If Trump's primary motivations are money and power, wouldn't it have made sense for him to have Joe Biden as his running mate? Joe has all the connections with Ukraine, CCP, Obama, Pelosi, etc...
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Biden's grift for Millions.

Trump innovates for Billions.
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Big C said:

bear2034 said:

Big C said:

movielover said:

He's already a Billionaire, so he has FU money Cruz, Rubio, Biden, Clinton, Obama and others never had, or will have.

Yeah, so if he gets reelected, he will spend his second term making America great again, right?

Flash back 25 years, this is why my Ukranian friends said that people in their country always vote for the incumbent, the second time around.

Bottom line: billionaires, in most cases, can never get enough. That is an understatement for "populist" Trump.

Democrats mock Trump and his lawsuits, and the time, money, and energy wasted on them. But you're saying his motivation is financial greed. People's motivations are usually mixed but even the corporate media haven't taken this approach to criticize Trump this election cycle.

Meanwhile, the Biden crime family have financial connections to Ukraine and big tech suppressed this information in the last election!

Trump's motivations are financial greed, lust for personal power, obsession with his image and a strong desire to keep his azz out of jail. Not saying "wanting to help his country" might not be a distant 5th place there, but no higher than that).

I agree about Trump being an off-the-scale narcissist, but you have to be pretty naive to think that the Clintons, Obama, Biden, Pelosi etc aren't equally politicians that are equally motivated by greed.
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Quote:

> The Truth Social stock has tanked 41% in the last 3 days. Trump has lost 2.4 billion dollars in value. He'd better get rid of it quick.
well, i dunno squat, but maybe he's already liquidating, thus whatever ongoing drop
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Cal88 said:

Big C said:

bear2034 said:

Big C said:

movielover said:

He's already a Billionaire, so he has FU money Cruz, Rubio, Biden, Clinton, Obama and others never had, or will have.

Yeah, so if he gets reelected, he will spend his second term making America great again, right?

Flash back 25 years, this is why my Ukranian friends said that people in their country always vote for the incumbent, the second time around.

Bottom line: billionaires, in most cases, can never get enough. That is an understatement for "populist" Trump.

Democrats mock Trump and his lawsuits, and the time, money, and energy wasted on them. But you're saying his motivation is financial greed. People's motivations are usually mixed but even the corporate media haven't taken this approach to criticize Trump this election cycle.

Meanwhile, the Biden crime family have financial connections to Ukraine and big tech suppressed this information in the last election!

Trump's motivations are financial greed, lust for personal power, obsession with his image and a strong desire to keep his azz out of jail. Not saying "wanting to help his country" might not be a distant 5th place there, but no higher than that).

I agree about Trump being an off-the-scale narcissist, but you have to be pretty naive to think that the Clintons, Obama, Biden, Pelosi etc aren't equally politicians that are equally motivated by greed.

Greed is part of human nature, but no, I don't think the politicians you mention are "equally" motivated by greed. Nor are most Republican politicians over the past 50 years or so. Most politicians probably have a bit of narcissism to their personality, but also sincerely want to help their country.
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Big C said:

Cal88 said:

Big C said:

bear2034 said:

Big C said:

movielover said:

He's already a Billionaire, so he has FU money Cruz, Rubio, Biden, Clinton, Obama and others never had, or will have.

Yeah, so if he gets reelected, he will spend his second term making America great again, right?

Flash back 25 years, this is why my Ukranian friends said that people in their country always vote for the incumbent, the second time around.

Bottom line: billionaires, in most cases, can never get enough. That is an understatement for "populist" Trump.

Democrats mock Trump and his lawsuits, and the time, money, and energy wasted on them. But you're saying his motivation is financial greed. People's motivations are usually mixed but even the corporate media haven't taken this approach to criticize Trump this election cycle.

Meanwhile, the Biden crime family have financial connections to Ukraine and big tech suppressed this information in the last election!

Trump's motivations are financial greed, lust for personal power, obsession with his image and a strong desire to keep his azz out of jail. Not saying "wanting to help his country" might not be a distant 5th place there, but no higher than that).

I agree about Trump being an off-the-scale narcissist, but you have to be pretty naive to think that the Clintons, Obama, Biden, Pelosi etc aren't equally politicians that are equally motivated by greed.

Greed is part of human nature, but no, I don't think the politicians you mention are "equally" motivated by greed. Nor are most Republican politicians over the past 50 years or so. Most politicians probably have a bit of narcissism to their personality, but also sincerely want to help their country.
As I have often said: before Trump there had never been a President with ZERO history of public service. Never won public office, no military service, no appointed government positions, nothing. He is an outlier.
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sycasey said:

Big C said:

Cal88 said:

Big C said:

bear2034 said:

Big C said:

movielover said:

He's already a Billionaire, so he has FU money Cruz, Rubio, Biden, Clinton, Obama and others never had, or will have.

Yeah, so if he gets reelected, he will spend his second term making America great again, right?

Flash back 25 years, this is why my Ukranian friends said that people in their country always vote for the incumbent, the second time around.

Bottom line: billionaires, in most cases, can never get enough. That is an understatement for "populist" Trump.

Democrats mock Trump and his lawsuits, and the time, money, and energy wasted on them. But you're saying his motivation is financial greed. People's motivations are usually mixed but even the corporate media haven't taken this approach to criticize Trump this election cycle.

Meanwhile, the Biden crime family have financial connections to Ukraine and big tech suppressed this information in the last election!

Trump's motivations are financial greed, lust for personal power, obsession with his image and a strong desire to keep his azz out of jail. Not saying "wanting to help his country" might not be a distant 5th place there, but no higher than that).

I agree about Trump being an off-the-scale narcissist, but you have to be pretty naive to think that the Clintons, Obama, Biden, Pelosi etc aren't equally politicians that are equally motivated by greed.

Greed is part of human nature, but no, I don't think the politicians you mention are "equally" motivated by greed. Nor are most Republican politicians over the past 50 years or so. Most politicians probably have a bit of narcissism to their personality, but also sincerely want to help their country.
As I have often said: before Trump there had never been a President with ZERO history of public service. Never won public office, no military service, no appointed government positions, nothing. He is an outlier.

Biden, Obama, and the Clintons spent the overwhelming majority of their lives in "public service" and have become extremely wealthy in the process. The net worth of the Obamas and the Clintons before and after the White House is significant in comparison with Trump, who donated his annual government salary while he was President.
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tRump's donation of his salary was a cross between a loss leader and a pick pocket that hands you $50 with one hand while taking a $1000 out of your wallet with the other.

How Trump fused his business empire to the presidency - POLITICO


https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/20/trump-businesses-empire-tied-presidency-100496

Trump made up to $160 million from foreign countries as president - CREW | Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington


https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-investigations/trump-made-up-to-160-million-from-foreign-countries-as-president/

Trump's company billed the government at least $2.5 million. Here are the key charges. - The Washington Post


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/key-charges-trump-properties/2020/10/27/bfa39b08-16cd-11eb-82db-60b15c874105_story.html

*Do you really think that pencil neck geek of a son in law got his hands on $2,000,000,000 Saudi because of his business acumen? He was little more that tRump's front man in a pay for play scheme. I'm sure Ivanka's daddy let them get their beaks wet for role playing.
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bear2034 said:

sycasey said:

Big C said:

Cal88 said:

Big C said:

bear2034 said:

Big C said:

movielover said:

He's already a Billionaire, so he has FU money Cruz, Rubio, Biden, Clinton, Obama and others never had, or will have.

Yeah, so if he gets reelected, he will spend his second term making America great again, right?

Flash back 25 years, this is why my Ukranian friends said that people in their country always vote for the incumbent, the second time around.

Bottom line: billionaires, in most cases, can never get enough. That is an understatement for "populist" Trump.

Democrats mock Trump and his lawsuits, and the time, money, and energy wasted on them. But you're saying his motivation is financial greed. People's motivations are usually mixed but even the corporate media haven't taken this approach to criticize Trump this election cycle.

Meanwhile, the Biden crime family have financial connections to Ukraine and big tech suppressed this information in the last election!

Trump's motivations are financial greed, lust for personal power, obsession with his image and a strong desire to keep his azz out of jail. Not saying "wanting to help his country" might not be a distant 5th place there, but no higher than that).

I agree about Trump being an off-the-scale narcissist, but you have to be pretty naive to think that the Clintons, Obama, Biden, Pelosi etc aren't equally politicians that are equally motivated by greed.

Greed is part of human nature, but no, I don't think the politicians you mention are "equally" motivated by greed. Nor are most Republican politicians over the past 50 years or so. Most politicians probably have a bit of narcissism to their personality, but also sincerely want to help their country.
As I have often said: before Trump there had never been a President with ZERO history of public service. Never won public office, no military service, no appointed government positions, nothing. He is an outlier.

Biden, Obama, and the Clintons spent the overwhelming majority of their lives in "public service" and have become extremely wealthy in the process. The net worth of the Obamas and the Clintons before and after the White House is significant in comparison with Trump, who donated his annual government salary while he was President.

Yeah, they were all better presidents, what's your point?
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sycasey said:

bear2034 said:

sycasey said:

Big C said:

Cal88 said:

Big C said:

bear2034 said:

Big C said:

movielover said:

He's already a Billionaire, so he has FU money Cruz, Rubio, Biden, Clinton, Obama and others never had, or will have.

Yeah, so if he gets reelected, he will spend his second term making America great again, right?

Flash back 25 years, this is why my Ukranian friends said that people in their country always vote for the incumbent, the second time around.

Bottom line: billionaires, in most cases, can never get enough. That is an understatement for "populist" Trump.

Democrats mock Trump and his lawsuits, and the time, money, and energy wasted on them. But you're saying his motivation is financial greed. People's motivations are usually mixed but even the corporate media haven't taken this approach to criticize Trump this election cycle.

Meanwhile, the Biden crime family have financial connections to Ukraine and big tech suppressed this information in the last election!

Trump's motivations are financial greed, lust for personal power, obsession with his image and a strong desire to keep his azz out of jail. Not saying "wanting to help his country" might not be a distant 5th place there, but no higher than that).

I agree about Trump being an off-the-scale narcissist, but you have to be pretty naive to think that the Clintons, Obama, Biden, Pelosi etc aren't equally politicians that are equally motivated by greed.

Greed is part of human nature, but no, I don't think the politicians you mention are "equally" motivated by greed. Nor are most Republican politicians over the past 50 years or so. Most politicians probably have a bit of narcissism to their personality, but also sincerely want to help their country.
As I have often said: before Trump there had never been a President with ZERO history of public service. Never won public office, no military service, no appointed government positions, nothing. He is an outlier.

Biden, Obama, and the Clintons spent the overwhelming majority of their lives in "public service" and have become extremely wealthy in the process. The net worth of the Obamas and the Clintons before and after the White House is significant in comparison with Trump, who donated his annual government salary while he was President.

Yeah, they were all better presidents, what's your point?

If Trump was involved with "public service' sooner, he would be even wealthier?
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bear2034 said:

sycasey said:

bear2034 said:

sycasey said:

Big C said:

Cal88 said:

Big C said:

bear2034 said:

Big C said:

movielover said:

He's already a Billionaire, so he has FU money Cruz, Rubio, Biden, Clinton, Obama and others never had, or will have.

Yeah, so if he gets reelected, he will spend his second term making America great again, right?

Flash back 25 years, this is why my Ukranian friends said that people in their country always vote for the incumbent, the second time around.

Bottom line: billionaires, in most cases, can never get enough. That is an understatement for "populist" Trump.

Democrats mock Trump and his lawsuits, and the time, money, and energy wasted on them. But you're saying his motivation is financial greed. People's motivations are usually mixed but even the corporate media haven't taken this approach to criticize Trump this election cycle.

Meanwhile, the Biden crime family have financial connections to Ukraine and big tech suppressed this information in the last election!

Trump's motivations are financial greed, lust for personal power, obsession with his image and a strong desire to keep his azz out of jail. Not saying "wanting to help his country" might not be a distant 5th place there, but no higher than that).

I agree about Trump being an off-the-scale narcissist, but you have to be pretty naive to think that the Clintons, Obama, Biden, Pelosi etc aren't equally politicians that are equally motivated by greed.

Greed is part of human nature, but no, I don't think the politicians you mention are "equally" motivated by greed. Nor are most Republican politicians over the past 50 years or so. Most politicians probably have a bit of narcissism to their personality, but also sincerely want to help their country.
As I have often said: before Trump there had never been a President with ZERO history of public service. Never won public office, no military service, no appointed government positions, nothing. He is an outlier.

Biden, Obama, and the Clintons spent the overwhelming majority of their lives in "public service" and have become extremely wealthy in the process. The net worth of the Obamas and the Clintons before and after the White House is significant in comparison with Trump, who donated his annual government salary while he was President.

Yeah, they were all better presidents, what's your point?

If Trump was involved with "public service' sooner, he would be even wealthier?

I already know that Trump is a subpar businessman.
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bear2034 said:

sycasey said:

bear2034 said:

sycasey said:

Big C said:

Cal88 said:

Big C said:

bear2034 said:

Big C said:

movielover said:

He's already a Billionaire, so he has FU money Cruz, Rubio, Biden, Clinton, Obama and others never had, or will have.

Yeah, so if he gets reelected, he will spend his second term making America great again, right?

Flash back 25 years, this is why my Ukranian friends said that people in their country always vote for the incumbent, the second time around.

Bottom line: billionaires, in most cases, can never get enough. That is an understatement for "populist" Trump.

Democrats mock Trump and his lawsuits, and the time, money, and energy wasted on them. But you're saying his motivation is financial greed. People's motivations are usually mixed but even the corporate media haven't taken this approach to criticize Trump this election cycle.

Meanwhile, the Biden crime family have financial connections to Ukraine and big tech suppressed this information in the last election!

Trump's motivations are financial greed, lust for personal power, obsession with his image and a strong desire to keep his azz out of jail. Not saying "wanting to help his country" might not be a distant 5th place there, but no higher than that).

I agree about Trump being an off-the-scale narcissist, but you have to be pretty naive to think that the Clintons, Obama, Biden, Pelosi etc aren't equally politicians that are equally motivated by greed.

Greed is part of human nature, but no, I don't think the politicians you mention are "equally" motivated by greed. Nor are most Republican politicians over the past 50 years or so. Most politicians probably have a bit of narcissism to their personality, but also sincerely want to help their country.
As I have often said: before Trump there had never been a President with ZERO history of public service. Never won public office, no military service, no appointed government positions, nothing. He is an outlier.

Biden, Obama, and the Clintons spent the overwhelming majority of their lives in "public service" and have become extremely wealthy in the process. The net worth of the Obamas and the Clintons before and after the White House is significant in comparison with Trump, who donated his annual government salary while he was President.

Yeah, they were all better presidents, what's your point?

If Trump was involved with "public service' sooner, he would be even wealthier?


Probably true given how corrupt he is.

It worked for Elon Musk.

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sycasey said:

Big C said:

Cal88 said:

Big C said:

bear2034 said:

Big C said:

movielover said:

He's already a Billionaire, so he has FU money Cruz, Rubio, Biden, Clinton, Obama and others never had, or will have.

Yeah, so if he gets reelected, he will spend his second term making America great again, right?

Flash back 25 years, this is why my Ukranian friends said that people in their country always vote for the incumbent, the second time around.

Bottom line: billionaires, in most cases, can never get enough. That is an understatement for "populist" Trump.

Democrats mock Trump and his lawsuits, and the time, money, and energy wasted on them. But you're saying his motivation is financial greed. People's motivations are usually mixed but even the corporate media haven't taken this approach to criticize Trump this election cycle.

Meanwhile, the Biden crime family have financial connections to Ukraine and big tech suppressed this information in the last election!

Trump's motivations are financial greed, lust for personal power, obsession with his image and a strong desire to keep his azz out of jail. Not saying "wanting to help his country" might not be a distant 5th place there, but no higher than that).

I agree about Trump being an off-the-scale narcissist, but you have to be pretty naive to think that the Clintons, Obama, Biden, Pelosi etc aren't equally politicians that are equally motivated by greed.

Greed is part of human nature, but no, I don't think the politicians you mention are "equally" motivated by greed. Nor are most Republican politicians over the past 50 years or so. Most politicians probably have a bit of narcissism to their personality, but also sincerely want to help their country.
As I have often said: before Trump there had never been a President with ZERO history of public service. Never won public office, no military service, no appointed government positions, nothing. He is an outlier.
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