AunBear89 said:

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So we're going with sources that post photoshopped images of Trump in a general's uniform?



Very on brand for KoolAid Conservatives.

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Here is the source from that tweet, the Kyiv Post, Ukrainian pro-NATO newspaper:

All Pentagon officials responsible for Ukraine and aid have been dismissed or removed from their positions.

The US Department of Defense is undergoing a complete reset, signaling a new format of relations with Ukraine, Ukrainian journalists reported.

— KyivPost (@KyivPost) January 21, 2025

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Isn't this war over? I stopped paying attention after Trump was elected because he said he could have it over in 24 hours.

I just assumed he followed through with his promise. Surely I wasn't duped by a con man?!? I must be the biggest moron of all to believe such a proven liar and hypocrite.

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The con here was the fake news about Ukraine winning the war, taking back the Donbas, or even managing to hold the Russians back, which has been the pretext to sustaining this war, which has already cost Ukraine nearly 700,000 lives.

Trump is not going to end the war in 24hrs, but he did change the whole outlook for peace in his first days as president. He deserves credit for acknowledging that the war is unwinnable for Ukraine and the carnage needs to be stopped. He is the first western head of state to decry the loss of lives on both sides of this conflict, and that is already a monumental shift.

AunBear89 said:

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TL;DR: Trump lied. Again. And moron conservatives believed it and touted the claim, but now scramble to move the goal posts and make excuses.


Gee! Who could have seen that coming?
At least he's lowered consumer prices to pre pandemic levels, right?

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Mumbles never broke a campaign promise.

Trump's criticism of Putin "ruining Russia" was obviously discontent with Putin rejecting his overture. But, agreed, Trump doesn't want these wars screwing with his Presidency. Unlike Biden, he'll look for ways out without worrying about our "allies."

AunBear89 said:

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Nice deflection. Not talking about Biden. Why do you bring him up? Do you have BDS?

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Sure, Trump, like every president who has been in office ever, has not completed 100% of his campaign promises. I am confident, however, that the Ukraine War will end faster under Trump than Biden. If the US goal was to hurt Russia at the expense of Ukraine, it did a hell of a job and Biden was successful in sabotaging peace deals. Otherwise, the war has been a disaster.

AunBear89 said:

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Funny how easily you dismiss this. I suspect you're cool with all the other lies he told. Cuz politicians lie, and if it's your side doing the lying, it's all good.


IOIYAR.


Liars, hypocrites, and morons.

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I get it. You want to come on BI and whine about a politician breaking a promise by not meeting a deadline without anyone pointing out your absurdity. Sweet.

Liberals: liars, hypocrites, and morons.

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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Talk is cheap.

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There were no talks when Biden was president.

Fascinating. I read about MHD before but not in this context. Apparently, it was being looked at as a replacement for the Rankine cycle in the production of electricity with the potential to be far more efficient. I wonder if the Russians have made any progress on that.

smh said:

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Big C said:

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I saw Trump say that..

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yeahbut everyone knows whatever T says is unreliable (at best), and most of the time total bull-fork.

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Trump Axiom: Take him seriously, not literally.

AunBear89 said:

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Funny how easily you dismiss this. I suspect you're cool with all the other lies he told. Cuz politicians lie, and if it's your side doing the lying, it's all good.

IOIYAR.

Liars, hypocrites, and morons.

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Lies vs embellishing.

Zippergate said:

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Fascinating. I read about MHD before but not in this context. Apparently, it was being looked at as a replacement for the Rankine cycle in the production of electricity with the potential to be far more efficient. I wonder if the Russians have made any progress on that.

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I'm not aware of those applications of MHD, it sounds interesting.

movielover said:

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smh said:

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Big C said:

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I saw Trump say that..

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yeahbut everyone knows whatever T says is unreliable (at best), and most of the time total bull-fork.

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Trump Axiom: Take him seriously, not literally.

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Biden Axiom: Take him literally, not seriously.

Mike Pompeo pulled the security clearances of people loyal to Trump during Trump's first term, setting the stage for the coup within the NSC, leading to the Ukraine hoax impeachment pic.twitter.com/0HPr2uRv3h

— Cernovich (@Cernovich) January 24, 2025

BREAKING: Donald Trump has signed an Executive Order that officially suspends US military aid to Ukraine, per Politico.

The order is effective immediately. pic.twitter.com/SB7TjyvgkU

— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) January 24, 2025

Zippergate said:

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BREAKING: Donald Trump has signed an Executive Order that officially suspends US military aid to Ukraine, per Politico.

The order is effective immediately. pic.twitter.com/SB7TjyvgkU

— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) January 24, 2025

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Am I seeing here that we're pausing ALL foreign aid? Or nearly so? That seems . . . unwise. Adversarial countries (like China) will fill that void quickly.

sounds like Putin reminded Trump about the existence of the pee tape

DiabloWags said:

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Zippergate said:

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Looks like Philly needs to have a chat with Orban and set him straight.

The sanctions enacted by the EU on Russia have completely backfired on the European economy. It’s time to rethink them, declares Hungarian PM Viktor Orbán.

“The sanctions engineered by the Brussels bureaucrats achieved one thing: they destroyed the competitivenes of the… pic.twitter.com/fxJ8OCWRhT

— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) January 22, 2025

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You're actually quoting another Dictator as credible?
The same guy that hijacked democratic institutions?

Bwahahahahahahaaaaaa!

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Arguably the most legitimate leader in Europe, based on the results of the last 4 elections in Hungary, but of course that's not what you will read in WSJ Peggy Noonan editorials.

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Why would I be surprised that you dont give a damn about Free Speech.

Shocker.

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Because pointing out that the guy has been elected by wide margins the last 4 elections means I don't give a damn about free speech.

AunBear89 said:

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Missing from your statement are the qualifiers "free and fair" before elections.


They are missing because the elections resulting in Orban victories are anything but free and fair. Much like the Ukrainian election you cite as justification for Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

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Elections in Hungary are a billion times freer and fairer than US elections with Citizens United, billion dollar lobbying with foreign country "handlers" assigned to each congressman, complete duopoly control, and vote counting that takes months after the elections, complete clown show.

You and Diablo are pretty clueless when it comes to European or international politics.

Florida elections were a sh-tshow before they, including South Florida and crooked officials, were cleaned up / removed.

Funny thing now. DeSantis a decent governor (wilted on national stage), and now Florida leans Red every election.

Russia vanquishing Ukraine and NATO, and now thus genius pontificate-s. Is this Ursula? Filter, or facelift?

EU policy is to break up Russia?

China looks at this and thinks “we’re next”

pic.twitter.com/IMhY5avQQF

— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) January 26, 2025

Deflection and whataboutism noted. As is your Euro smug attitude that Americans are ignorant about Europe.

For your reading:
https://www.electoralintegrityproject.com/eip-blog/2023/2/23/elections-in-hungary-free-and-fair-is-much-more-than-election-day?format=amp

https://www.osce.org/odihr/elections/hungary/515135

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/31/world/europe/hungary-viktor-orban-election.html

AunBear89 said:

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Deflection and whataboutism noted. As is your Euro smug attitude that Americans are ignorant about Europe.

For your reading:
https://www.electoralintegrityproject.com/eip-blog/2023/2/23/elections-in-hungary-free-and-fair-is-much-more-than-election-day?format=amp

https://www.osce.org/odihr/elections/hungary/515135

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/31/world/europe/hungary-viktor-orban-election.html

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Orban run against neoliberal pro-EU candidates that are favored by the NYT and Euro MSM and clobbered them in the last 4 elections. The links argue that his party gerrymandered voting districts, while ignoring the fact that he destroyed his oppositions in absolute numbers, garnishing an absolute majority of the popular vote.

AunBear89 said:

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If you chose to be ignorant on this topic, as you do on others when confronted with contrary evidence, then I guess there really is no point.

Your slavish devotion to and frothing defense of authoritarians who win rigged elections is consistent and noted.

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I have addressed one of the main arguments against Orban, that his party gerrymandered voting districts, by stating the obvious, that his party received the absolute majority of the popular votes.

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The faade of the electoral system: gaining legitimacy with biased rules

Using elections to gain legitimacy is an old tactic: autocratic leaders from the Soviet Union to Cuba have used elections to create a democratic faade. In 2010, for the first time since the democratization of Hungary, power was concentrated in the hands of a single political power. Following the parliamentary elections in 2010, with a supermajority, the Fidesz-KDNP Party Alliance introduced a new electoral law written behind closed doors and without plural political debate. Without any transparency, the government created a new map of constituencies with districts that varied drastically in size and heavily benefitted Orbn's party coalition Fidesz-KDNP. In addition, the law replaced two-round elections in single-member constituencies with a majority support with a Winner-Take-All system; legalized "voter-tourism"; "winner compensation"; and strategically granted citizenship and voting rights to 450,000 near-abroad citizens who were known to support Fidesz. These innovations helped him secure a two-thirds majority in both 2014 and 2018.

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They also complain about the "first to the gate/winner takes all" political system, but that is exactly the system that many democracies like the UK or Canada run.

Invectives is all you've got here, because you cannot respond to these basic facts.