BearGoggles said:
DiabloWags said:
BearGoggles said:
DiabloWags said:
BearGoggles said:
Your assumption that they are dumb (stated as a fact, not opinion) says much more about your intellect than theirs.
Nonsense.
These people voted for a guy that campaigned on starting a TRADE WAR, not having the slightest clue how tariffs would punish them.
That's being DUMB.
As usual, you didn't answer the central points and responded to only one sentence. Like that people voting for Trump may have had other reasons than the fact that he promised a trade war. So silly.
Biden campaigned on converting to a green economy. At least some of the people who voted for him on that basis didn't have the "slightest clue" how said policy would "punish" them with higher energy prices, including the intentional increase in carbon fuel costs, and resulting inflation. Are those Biden voters dumb too?
This is a yes or no question - are those Biden voters dumb?
You dont even know where inflation comes from.
It's pretty clear from your posts here where you've never even mentioned the Federal Reserve. This is basic Econ. 101a stuff. But you're terribly ignorant.
Did I blame Trump for the unprecedented 40% surge in M2 since March 2020?
Of course not.
Did I blame Biden for it?
Of course not.
I would suggest that you educate yourself on how the Federal Reserve impacts the economy. The Chairman of the FED is the most POWERFUL person in this Country.
But its pretty clear that you dont have any awareness of what the FED does or how their policy impacts the financial markets and the economy.
It was a yes or no question - are Biden voters dumb for voting for a guy who campaigned advocating policies that would quite obviously make energy more expensive?
Yes or no - stop dodging.
So I guess I'll ask - do you have an econ degree from Cal?
I think impact of doing nothing and going green are both long term.
If we do nothing, there is significant cost to our economy, from severe weather events, more migration, etc. No matter the rhetoric from the progressive, we are not cutting off fossil fuel any time soon and, if regulation outpaces infrastructure , it will create energy disruptions and inflation at a great cost to society and to the poor. The change in infrastructure needed to significantly reduce fossil fuel will take years if not a decade. Doesn't mean we shouldn't invest, but we should not lose sight of the main purpose, which is to reduce the pain to those who are least able to protect themselves.
In the meantime, we get most of our oil import from Canada, and OPEC still has significant influence on overall global oil price no matter how much our demand is reduced.
As far as immediate impact, local regulation that limits supply and cost of gas from refineries definitely increase cost at the pump. See California as a prime example, but when I was growing up in Southern California, smog was horrible and dangerous. I think drastic action was required at least in Southern California.
Long run, I believe in climate-related risks and costs. Not doing anything is getting expensive and will be even more expensive in the future. Like most things, I will be fine no matter what. I care more about the future generation. Whether it's stupid liberal borrow and spend policies on the backs of our children or climate-denier continuing to promote doing nothing because others are not doing the same just leverages selfish desires on the backs of the future generation. We should be grown ups for our kids and future grandkids.
